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Zjaum
Senator
 
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Founded: Oct 15, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Zjaum » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:34 pm

New Cobastheia wrote:"The simplest answer is to open our doors back to trade, namely with the European Union and the Commonwealth Countries. However, within our borders, small businesses are a great way to support and startup a local economy in all areas and as such will be supported by my administration in any way possible."
"My administration would also support government-funded college, allowing for students to both come out of college debt-free, as well as making it easier to find for them to find a well-paying job that they can simulate the economy with."
"And to get specific," Guess placed a large amount of emphasis on that word, "There's also the Environmental Protection and Energy Generation Plan, which would create safe jobs nationwide while automation handles the particularly deadly parts, as well as preparing us for the more extreme effects of Climate Change and make us a greener nation overall."

Guess through the specific part in on purpose, making sure the voters would note that Egilson hadn't named any specific plans or policies, while Guess was already campaigning for them.

"Okay, well, I'm going to need a bit to unpack this, because most of that was wrong. Trade, I agree with. We will get nowhere by shutting ourselves off. Small businesses are fine, but only of a certain type. Small businesses can't provide the efficiency and customer service to bring a product out to the masses cheaply, and small businesses with patents hold on to their miniature monopolies to the detriment of everyone around them. College is so irrelevant to the economy. Not only does it bring a lot of debt, but the skills college provides are nearly worthless for work in general. You almost need a Master's just to get a viable job. And then, oh gosh, what garbage government program were you- oh right, the EPEGP. No comment; I'll let that one speak for itself."
I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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New Cobastheia
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Founded: Apr 12, 2014
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Postby New Cobastheia » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:50 pm

Zjaum wrote:
New Cobastheia wrote:"The simplest answer is to open our doors back to trade, namely with the European Union and the Commonwealth Countries. However, within our borders, small businesses are a great way to support and startup a local economy in all areas and as such will be supported by my administration in any way possible."
"My administration would also support government-funded college, allowing for students to both come out of college debt-free, as well as making it easier to find for them to find a well-paying job that they can simulate the economy with."
"And to get specific," Guess placed a large amount of emphasis on that word, "There's also the Environmental Protection and Energy Generation Plan, which would create safe jobs nationwide while automation handles the particularly deadly parts, as well as preparing us for the more extreme effects of Climate Change and make us a greener nation overall."

Guess through the specific part in on purpose, making sure the voters would note that Egilson hadn't named any specific plans or policies, while Guess was already campaigning for them.

"Okay, well, I'm going to need a bit to unpack this, because most of that was wrong. Trade, I agree with. We will get nowhere by shutting ourselves off. Small businesses are fine, but only of a certain type. Small businesses can't provide the efficiency and customer service to bring a product out to the masses cheaply, and small businesses with patents hold on to their miniature monopolies to the detriment of everyone around them. College is so irrelevant to the economy. Not only does it bring a lot of debt, but the skills college provides are nearly worthless for work in general. You almost need a Master's just to get a viable job. And then, oh gosh, what garbage government program were you- oh right, the EPEGP. No comment; I'll let that one speak for itself."

"Ha, it's hilarious that you completely misunderstood the point of two of my proposed government programs.

Let's start with college, shall we? The whole point of that program is to make sure the students won't graduate drowning in debt, so your first point makes no sense at all. And about work, how do you propose people prepare for jobs in our increasingly automated world? With only a high school diploma, you only have so many options available, and considering both of us are for increased automation, by the end of either of our administrations there will be even less. It's a simple fact of life nowadays that you need to get a degree to find a good paying job, let alone a job in general. So all this leads me to believe that you would rather have people dying in debt to even begin to find good work than giving them the option to work at all.

Now for the EPEGP... So you think a program that will help revitalize the economy with jobs nationwide, let us tap an untold number of renewable resources to provide us our energy, allow us to help stop this endless cycle of violence on the environment, and protect our nation from the environmental extremes that are so common in our day.. is garbage?" Guess started to laugh, it wasn't a simple "ha" this time, it was more like how you'd laugh at something so idiotic you can't understand it, "I think I'll let that speak for itself."
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Vienna Eliot
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Founded: Feb 16, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Vienna Eliot » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:18 pm

Krauthammer had zoned out during the discussion, but a bright green light flashed in his glasses, and the words for the next question appeared in front of his eye.

"Our next topic covers foreign policy. Americans know all too well of the President's failed efforts to strengthen the United Nations, and the country is still reeling from the global prominence of Europe and Asia on the world stage. What is your position on America's ideal role abroad and in global politics, and what will you do in the White House to get us to there?" Krauthammer promptly zoned out again. A rogue camera operator zoomed in on his face before going back to the candidates.

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New Cobastheia
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Founded: Apr 12, 2014
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Postby New Cobastheia » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:10 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:Krauthammer had zoned out during the discussion, but a bright green light flashed in his glasses, and the words for the next question appeared in front of his eye.

"Our next topic covers foreign policy. Americans know all too well of the President's failed efforts to strengthen the United Nations, and the country is still reeling from the global prominence of Europe and Asia on the world stage. What is your position on America's ideal role abroad and in global politics, and what will you do in the White House to get us to there?" Krauthammer promptly zoned out again. A rogue camera operator zoomed in on his face before going back to the candidates.

"The United States needs to stop being so isolationist. It has done nothing good for our nation, it has starved the economy and weakened our role on the world stage. However, at the same time, under a Guess Administration, we would not be interventionist either. US Intervention, for the most part, has not served the world at large well, not to mention the countless American lives that have been lost in pointless foreign wars we should've never been in in the first place. However, we would still support and help our allies worldwide if they request our help and we deem it necessary to protect our nation.

Ever since WWII, we have been strong allies of the most of the Commonwealth Nations, the UK, Australia, India, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa just to name a few, so I would most likely start there, possibly seeking membership in the Commonwealth if possible. I would seek to improve US-EU relations, with various organizations such as NATO and the G7.

On to Asia, if we can work with Japan to start up both of our economies, I would be happy to help and restart relations with them. As for China, before Fischer, our two nations economies were the most intertwined of any. And while we haven't had many reports of a struggling Chinese economy, I do think they could be hiding the cracks from us for whatever reason, and if they would be willing, I would be willing to restart trade, although the Guess Administration would be much more careful while trading with the Chinese than previous administrations.

As for the Middle East, I would be willing to increase relations with nations in this area, however, they must respect democracy and human rights. We will not support a nation that condemns people to death for being LGBT or a non-muslim, such as Suadi Arabia or Iran. I would support the Kurdish State and grant it US recognition. For Isreal, while the Government of Israel and the Palestinian Authority both continue to support a two-state solution, that is completely impractical at this point, mostly due to Zone C of the West Bank. As such, while the Guess Administration would support a secular and democratic State of Israel-Palestine, the one state solution.

As for the UN, I think pretty much everyone supports it's continued existence as a sort of advisory board, including myself. However, I would like to see it be more democratic with a proportional legislative wing rather than the General Assembly as it currently stands."

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Zjaum
Senator
 
Posts: 3919
Founded: Oct 15, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Zjaum » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:11 pm

Egilson smirked. "Yes. We fought a war to leave the British Commonwealth, and, after the greatest run a nation's had in modern history, we come crawling back. Great Britain is a fine ally, but that would be a bit too close for comfort.

"I am a realist, and I will follow a policy of absolutes. Whenever the United States acted with decision, we dominated our rivals. When we sent no one overseas, businesses thrived. Whenever we decided to be wishy-washy, we spent decades in a godforsaken corner of the world, eventually tucking our tail and leaving.

"Diplomats are great; we can use them to broker trade. Talking with the United Nations is a relatively costless avenue, regardless of how ineffective it has been. (Although I will say that if we and our rivals agree on something, we could just skip the middleman and negotiate a joint endeavor directly with China or Britain or anyone else.) Yes, diplomacy talks. Economic and military influence talks louder. I am perfectly fine with either isolationism or interventionism, but a firm hand is necessary. If we act with interventionism, we stay until their people and their economy are indelibly linked with ours. If we act with isolationism, we leave no mark there except our embassy.

"Specifically, there are more useful places for our troops and our envoys than the Middle East. Oil is rapidly growing irrelevant, with or without- yes, a fruitless, garbage government program, personal solar is already generating much more power than the households which employ them use- and even the Saudis know that their days of prominence are numbered. I want allies that will either be useful or loyal, and Israel is the single country in that region that even fits that bill. I'd rather turn my attention to the developing countries of Africa and Southeast Asia. It hurts, but without a population, Japan's economy cannot be salvaged. This is coming from a longstanding fan of anime; it breaks my heart (Sayonara, arigatogozaimashita). China can be a good friend to us, as can both Koreas, Vietnam, and Indonesia.

However enticing overseas influence is to us, I believe we should look towards our own side of the planet. Dozens of Latin American nations have gone abandoned by the rest of the world because they thought it was our job to help them. While I don't think it is, in fact, our job, there is tremendous opportunity to be had. Boosting their economies and doubling down on trade benefits all parties involved. Now that would bring in the jobs."
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I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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New Cobastheia
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Founded: Apr 12, 2014
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Postby New Cobastheia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:18 am

"While I agree with some of what Representative Egilson is saying, namely investing in our neighbors to the South and in developing nations the world over. However, it would take time for prosperous results to come to our nation, for the first few years of what Egilson is proposing, the developing nations would see most of the benefits.

We need results and improvement now! Which is why we should join the Commonwealth, after Brexit, the groundwork for a free trade network was set up by the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. Soon after it was adopted into the whole of the Commonwealth, boosting the economies of all the Commonwealth Nations. There is a reason the Commonwealth Republics in Africa outperform their neighbors in nearly all metrics.

The groundwork has already been set and if we join we would see results immediately, saving us years of time to revitalize the economy.

And yes we did win a war against the British Empire. I'm not surprised you're trying to use patriotism to try and convince people the right thing to do is the wrong thing, and then you can't even do that right because apparently, you don't know the difference between an Empire and a Commonwealth. Great way to tell everyone your fit to be the next President! It's just like that time you made it clear over one of your webcast that you don't know how your own state's government works."

Guess was getting excited. In his head, he was winning the debate so far, and if what he was planning was to work, he was opening all kinds of ways to attack Egilson. And if Egilson didn't respond in the way planned, well, the debates not over yet and Guess has figured it out just fine so far.

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Zjaum
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Founded: Oct 15, 2016
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Postby Zjaum » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:54 am

"All right, I apologize, ladies and gentlemen. Apparently I must explain a joke.

"When you enter the stock market, you need to choose wisely, or at least pick a set that will probably contain a good amount of winners. Canada has amazing resources, and a population smaller than our state of Texas. Same goes for Australia. I agree with Brexit for social reasons, but Britain's fiscal policies have removed it from the status of 'world power.' New Zealand is a beautiful retirement home, but economically not that impressive. No offense to our Commonwealth allies across the globe, but I am not interested in joining a faction that has long since returned poorly on our investment.

"That said, I am totally down to play the waiting game. My legacy should not be, 'Yeah, he had a fine eight years, but then everything went to sh- the country went to garbage.' I want people to say, 'Egilson made America'..." Benjamin sighed. "Forgive the Republican phrasing, but 'great again.' If even just one Latin American nation uses our business effectively, they will pay us back tenfold, and we will have established a powerful ally in the Western Hemisphere. It's optimistic and realist, which is a very rare combination."
I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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Vienna Eliot
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Posts: 554
Founded: Feb 16, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Vienna Eliot » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:53 pm

"Our last question for the evening," Maddow began, when it was evident the candidates were done arguing, "regards mandatory spending. That means social security, medicare, and medicaid. These programs, which used to constitute the bulk of the American budget, were drastically decreased under President Comey, and despite his best efforts President Fischer has failed to increase them. Millions of Americans — and the market too — are waiting to see what the next administration will mean for social security and other mandatory spending. What will your goals be for spending as President, and how will you achieve them more successfully than the current, and previous, administrations?"

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New Cobastheia
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Founded: Apr 12, 2014
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Postby New Cobastheia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:21 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:"Our last question for the evening," Maddow began, when it was evident the candidates were done arguing, "regards mandatory spending. That means social security, medicare, and medicaid. These programs, which used to constitute the bulk of the American budget, were drastically decreased under President Comey, and despite his best efforts President Fischer has failed to increase them. Millions of Americans — and the market too — are waiting to see what the next administration will mean for social security and other mandatory spending. What will your goals be for spending as President, and how will you achieve them more successfully than the current, and previous, administrations?"


"Since the beginning of the campaign, I have made it clear that I want to renationalize Social Security. Trusting a program that is supposed to be a safety net for the elderly to the whims and flows of the market is impossible. The whole point of Social Security was to make sure that the elderly wouldn't spend the rest of their lives in abject poverty, now, that point is dead. Put yourself into an old person's shoes, you couldn't save that much when you were still working, so you support yourself mainly with your Social Security checks. Now imagine the market tanked tomorrow, you can say goodbye to spending the rest of your life in any kind of objective comfort. That is why we need to renationalize Social Security, in its current form it can't act in the role we need it to act in.

As for healthcare, just like I did in California, I want to bring a single-payer system to the country at large. Not only has single-payer in California brought down medical costs in the state, it allows for citizens of my state to go to the doctor's office when they think they might be something wrong, and when they get to go home because they've been treated, they don't have to worry about medical bills that will kill them with debt. Californians can get the care they need and not be killed by the cost!

And because I was a leading force in the creation of a single-payer system in California, I have the experience that one needs to set up a single-payer system nationwide, making sure that no one will even be killed by the cost of the very treatment they needed!"

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Zjaum
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Founded: Oct 15, 2016
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Postby Zjaum » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:34 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:"Our last question for the evening," Maddow began, when it was evident the candidates were done arguing, "regards mandatory spending. That means social security, medicare, and medicaid. These programs, which used to constitute the bulk of the American budget, were drastically decreased under President Comey, and despite his best efforts President Fischer has failed to increase them. Millions of Americans — and the market too — are waiting to see what the next administration will mean for social security and other mandatory spending. What will your goals be for spending as President, and how will you achieve them more successfully than the current, and previous, administrations?"

"You know, as a man who was a libertarian last year, I'm fairly certain my answer would be predictable, so I'll try to shake things up a bit." Pause for laughter.

"I hear the term 'right' getting thrown around far too much. Healthcare is not a 'right,' nor is education. However, its status of 'right-hood' does not mean that it would be good or bad for the economy. I, for one, think that wireless fidelity across the country would be cheap and very beneficial for the nation, unlike most of my libertarian counterparts. Social security is a program that I don't think is necessary but that I think is... mildly beneficial for some. It's designed to encourage Americans to save. Well, not encourage. Force, more accurately. You practically can't avoid the social security program. I personally would recommend making those programs and government projects like it optional to the public. People could engage in social security if they wanted to, or they could keep their money for better things. It alleviates a lot of burden from the system, and it gives power back to the people. If people don't invest in social security and don't save, they can't blame the government.

"It's a little bit of a tangent, but I think that citizen-earmarked taxes are not only a good curb on government spending but also a good way to get the people more directly involved in federal finances. One of the big problems with government spending is that there's no disincentive. My side and your [Guess's] side are more than eager to spend towards their personal projects without taking into account the amount of money that they spend. Both sides profit, and all others suffer the consequences. Citizen-earmarked taxes make sure that the money goes where the people want, rather than some wind farm in an incumbent's district."
I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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New Cobastheia
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Founded: Apr 12, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby New Cobastheia » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:13 pm

Closing Statement

"I came here tonight with one goal in mind. To help the American people choose who they want to vote for come November. While we still have two more Presidental Debates, a Vice Presidental Debate, and several months of campaigning to do before the election, I can say that I feel I have accomplished my goal. I think that this debate has demonstrated who would be a better President, so I thank you for listening, watching, or being in this very room and I hope I have gained your vote. Thank You."

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Zjaum
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Founded: Oct 15, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Zjaum » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:08 am

“I have found myself and the nation at the crossroads of two, equally noble but conflicting ideologies. One comes from a desire to make the world a better place, one where the government can help the poor and the downtrodden, one where everything is easily acquirable. It is an ideology that asks us to rejoin the world as equals, and to find our success in places where others have first trod. It is a sentiment with which I sympathize, but I ask our citizens to dream further. We each have presented ideas that, fifty years ago, would have sounded ludicrous. My policies don’t guarantee comfort but promise a shot at glory. I hope America will seek it with me. Thank you in advance for your time and consideration, and God bless America.
I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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Helowi
Diplomat
 
Posts: 661
Founded: May 20, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Helowi » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:17 pm

Wright Campaign Schedule for Egilson
Sunday: Campaign Rally in Yuma, Arizona.
Monday: Campaign Rally in St. Petersburg, Florida.
Tuesday: Campaign Rally in Aspen, Colorado. Reddit AMA
Wednesday: Canpaign Rally in Syracuse, New York.
Thursday: Campaign Rally in Utica, New York.
Friday: Campaign Rally in Peoria, Illinois.
Saturday: Campaign Rally in Miami, Florida

On Tuesday, a Reddit AMA on r/Egilson2052 was pinned to the top of the page, the post said this:

I am Gareth Bartholomew Wright. Former Businessman, Senator, and your next Vice President. AMA!

The post had around 2.5k comments. Some of the top questions that Wright answered are

What did you think about the 1st debate? Who do you think did best overall


Wright responded:

Overall, I think that Egilson won, no surprise. I sort of thought that Guess seemed like he had an overconfidence effect with his policies and closing statement and thought he could say anything in that debate and still win. While I’m not saying that Guess did a bad job because both candidates had their ups and downs, but I believe Egilson came out on top


What is one policy that you like of Guess’s and one policy that you overall dislike of Egilson


Wright responded:

Oh man. Well, this question was bound to come up at some point. I do agree with some aspects of Guess’s Environmental stances have a lot of good ideas toward them and while I do have my complaints, the environment is one of the very few issues we connect on.

If I would have to disagree with one policy of Egilsons, I would have to go with his anti-EU ideology. While the EU does have its downsides, I believe that we need to keep some good talks toward them. However, I overall agree with Egilson on an overall majority of his Positions, and probably three of Guess’s.


What would you do if you were the deciding vote in the senate for a bill while Vice President?


Wright responded:

Well, I would have a meeting with both Democratic and Republican leaders in Congress. I would have them both voice there opinions on the bill and what would be the ups and downs of it. I would consider both sides of the case and then I would speak to the president on his opinion, which I would also take into consideration. I would consider both sides of the argument when deciding my deciding vote


What world leader, excluding American Presidents, would you overall say is your inspiration, historical or not?


Wright responded

I would say my inspiration in a world leader is probably Angela Merkel. She was an amazing leader who I believe strengthened her country in the end and overall worked amazingly with other European leaders and honestly, in my opinion, helped Europe for the better.
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Vienna Eliot
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Founded: Feb 16, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Vienna Eliot » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:46 pm

CNN — Who Won the Debate?
Democrats
Egilson— 13%
Guess— 87%

Republicans
Egilson— 68%
Guess— 32%

Independents
Egilson— 46%
Guess— 54%

Los Angeles Times — Nationwide (Registered Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 47.56%
Guess/Randolph — 50.12%
+/- 5.45%
Landmark Communications — Nationwide (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 46.67%
Guess/Randolph — 45.23%
+/- 4.71%

Northern Arizona University — Arizona (Registered Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 41.17%
Guess/Randolph — 44.60%
+/- 3.65%
Harris Interactive — Georgia (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 40.92%
Guess/Randolph — 37.77%
+/- 5.58%
University of South Florida — Florida (Registered Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 41.74%
Guess/Randolph — 45.22%
+/- 4.69%
Strategic Vision LLC — Illinois (Registered Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 49.98%
Guess/Randolph — 47.50%
+/- 4.41%
EPIC-MRA — Maryland (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 43.59%
Guess/Randolph — 49.80%
+/- 5.13%
Marist College — Massachusetts (Registered Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 50.78%
Guess/Randolph — 41.22%
+/- 5.29%
Mason-Dixon — Texas (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 41.09%
Guess/Randolph — 46.58%
+/- 5.23%

RealClearPolitics — Nationwide Forecast
Egilson/Wright— 247 EV
Guess/Randolph — 137 EV
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FiveThirtyEight — Nationwide Forecast
Egilson/Wright— 258 EV | 41%
Guess/Randolph — 280 EV | 59%
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New Cobastheia
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Founded: Apr 12, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby New Cobastheia » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:42 pm

Victoria Randolph
Rally in Chicago, Illinois. Focusing on the Poor, Planned to be aired in the form of an ad in Poor and Black America


Victoria walked up to the stage, projecting a kind of motherly glow only she could province out of Guess, Egilson, Wright and herself. With her near-perfect diction, slight Georgian twang. and just a hint of French Creole, she started to speak.

"I grew up very poor. When I was a child, my parents could never find a good paying job, and if they could they weren't very qualified, being an orphan with little formal education and an immigrant from Nigeria and all. There were nights when it was hard, sometimes we didn't have the money to buy food, one time my youngest brother broke a bone in his hand so my mom made a split from some wood and duct tape because we couldn't afford the hospital.

I knew the only way out was to get an education, and somehow my boring, awkward, teenage self was able to impress the people at Yale so much they gave me a full ride.

Theo grew up in a similar situation, growing up in Rural Oklahoma and then moving to Rural California only for his parents to divorce and for him to get shot at school. His Tribe was the only reason he could have afforded Stanford.

Without our scholarships, both of us couldn't have afforded college, and we would both be stuck in the endless cycle of violence that is poverty. That's why we want the government to pay for college. There are so many smart, talented people who are growing up in poverty, and when the time comes, they can't afford college. They'll likely be stuck in poverty their whole lives, their children will be stuck, they won't be able to help lift up the community they grew up in with the education they never got.

We know what your life is, both of us lived it, no one should have to live like this, Guess and I want to help not only you, but all the people of our great nation! And who better to help you than the people who have been in the same situation as all of you and have risen up to live prosperous lives?"

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Helowi
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Postby Helowi » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:28 pm

Wright Campaign Schedule for Egilson
Sunday: Campaign Rally in Macon, Georgia. Speech on Nonpartisanship.
Monday: Campaign Rally in Rockford, Illinois. Speech on Foreign Policy.
Tuesday: Campaign Rally in Daytona Beach, Florida. Speech on Immigration.
Wednesday: Campaign Rally in Marietta, Georgia. Speech on Equal Opportunity.
Thursday: Campaign Rally in Scottsdale, Arizona. Speech on Social Security
Friday: Campaign Rally in Peoria, Illinois. Speech on Education Reform.
Saturday: Campaign Rally in Crystal Lake, Illinois. Speech on Automation.

Wright was waiting in his dressing room and sitting down, reading today’s New York Times. An article headlined “GUESS CAMPAIGN GOES FORWARD, MEANWHILE EGILSON SLOWS DOWN.” Wright laughed. “We’re just getting started baby.”

Suddenly, there is a knock on the door, his chief advisor, James Dykstra, comes in. “Good evening, Mr. Senator” Dykstra says, taking a sip of coffee while he’s at it. “The VP debate is coming up, and I wanna make sure you are prepared for what Governor Randolph. So, We will start official debate prep in a couple of weeks, so be prepared for the debate.”

“I will most assuringly be prepared for what Randolph throws at me. I will be prepared for the debate prep.” Wright said, setting down his newspaper while he was at it.

An aide walked in “Senator Wright, your on in 6.” “Thank you, Will.” Wright responded, he had been to Arizona so many times, he began to know his aides on a first name basis.

Wright walked up to the backstage area. U. S. Representative and Mexican Immigrant Diego Asturias was giving a speech.

“Today, there has definitely been a lot of regret of incompetent Democratic rule for the last 12 years, and a lot of people still see it necessary for another 4 years. These democrats have shown in more recent years that they have had completely confused leadership and as an Arizonan, I believe it is time for a change in leadership across this country. And Ben Egilson is the man to do just that!”

Applause echoed throughout the school auditorium. A voice came out of the speakers “and now, your next Vice President of the United States, Gareth Bartholomew Wright!”

Wright walks onstage, smiling at the audience and shaking hands with Representative Asturias, and then walking up to the podium, beginning his speech.

“Good Evening, people of the great state of Arizona. Thank you all for taking time out of your busy lives and showing your support for the Egilson campaign. Now, as you know, at the last debate, Guess made a statement related to social security that said that it should be renationalized. And my thoughts were so you remember the last time that Social Security was Nationalised. There was a reason we privatized it, and in case you don’t know, Premier Guess, it was because it became too chaotic for the government to handle. If it were put back into the hands government, the only words I could describe it as is complete doomsday, to put it nicely.” He then took a slight break, the audience cheating as he took a sip of water.

“As your Vice President, I will fight to keep Social Security privatized and will fight against people like Guess in renationalization efforts of Social Security. Premier Guess seems to have forgotten about the past and is to focused on his own one sided policies that he has forgot what is good and what is bad. And so I ask you to go out on November 5th and vote Egilson for President!”

The crowd went wild with applause, Wright went down and shook their hands. He gave a smile to every one there and began to become more playful, giving out fist bumps and high fives as well to others their. He was feeling like a championed boxer, and he was proud of it.
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Theo Guess
A Series of Rallies throughout Florida focusing on the EPEGP

Rally in Orlando, Florida


"Let me tell you something about Representative Egilson, he doesn't give a damn about any of you. He thinks every last one of you should have to see your home's destroyed by hurricanes and floods! He thinks every last one of you should be forced to leave the place you've built a life in! He thinks you should all be forced to become climate refugee's, he thinks your whole state should become part of the ocean floor!"

Rally in Miami, Florida

"He thinks that America would be better off if the oceans swallowed by it's cities! Boston, New York, Baltimore, New Orleans, Houston, San Diego, Los Angles, San Jose, San Franciso, Seattle, all of Florida! With a President Egilson, hundreds of millions of people will become displaced within decades! It will be like Trump with the aftermath of Maria, only a million times worst."

Theo added in the last sentence on purpose, knowing full well that plenty of people in the audience would be Puerto Ricans who left after Hurricane Maria or their descendants.

Rally in Tampa, Florida

"There is a reason that the massive loss of land and life predicted in the earlier days of this century hasn't come." Taking a brief pause to drive the point home, "All the Presidents since Trump have been for the environment. For 27 years, the holder of the highest office in the land has accepted that Climate Change is real. Meanwhile, Egilson wants to deregulate the environment, it's ridiculous! Just look at the world in 2000 and then look a the world in 2050, everyone besides Egilson can see a real difference!"

Rally in Jacksonville, Florida

"And let's not forget about the clean energy the EPEGP would create! Here is Jacksonville you have St. Johns River, if we put underwater turbines in the river we could not only generate the power for Jacksonville, but for every local area on the St. Johns as well as making sure that the river will flow and that the aquatic wildlife won't be harmed."

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Theo Guess
Fresno, California


Theo passed around the room, walking in circles, thinking in his head. His new Campaign Manager, Sylvia Park, stood nearby. She was formerly Mohamed's Second, however after the polls showed the people seemed to like a more aggressive Guess, they switched roles, with Mohamed now focusing on most of the behind's the scene stuff.

Theo could hear the Speaker of the Parliament, Sebastian Rodrigo, outside, "This is the city where we created our Third Constitution, this is the city where we decided that we were going to have a better democracy, a more representative one, one that better served the people of our state!" He paused for a second for the applause, "And even though the Supreme Court struck down anything other than a Presidental System for running any state, as Justice Gorsceh so explained, multi-member districts are still perfectly legal.

That is what I leave you with as I invite your next President of the United States and the current Premier, Theodore Guess, to the stage!"

Theo walked up to the cheering crowd that had gathered themselves to the rally, he already knew there was no way he wouldn't win California, but it felt exhilarating to see the people how have supported him for some many years, support his once more in his Presidental Run.

"Yes, sadly it's true, our constitution has been struck down against the will of this state's people. However, Justice Gorsch made one special little thing clear when he told the world that we can't have the constitution we want. He told the world that according to the US Constitution, multi-member-districts are allowed. Now we've all seen the more representative government that gets created when you let an STV and IRV elect the Parliament in this very state!

And that's why that as your next President I would support what we're calling the Fair Representation Acts, a series of laws that would replace our current system of one-member districts elected with First Past the Post, with multi-member districts elected with STV and one-member districts elected with IRV. As well as bring the Wyoming Rule into law, making sure that everyone is represented in the House the way they should be, as equally as humanly possible!"

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Saturday, September 28th
West Wing Lobby | The White House
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"Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck," Jessman muttered, storming down the hallway.
"Problem, James?" Rosalynn asked, looking up from her phone in the West Wing lobby.
"Motherfucker is thirty minutes early."
"Shouldn't he be? You do put 'at or around' on the invitations."
"They should be, but they never are. We schedule accordingly. Fuck." Jessman looked around, but the lobby was empty — even the receptionist was at lunch. "Can you entertain him?"
Rosalynn looked taken aback. "Entertain him?"
"Verbally, Rosalynn! Not orally!"

An usher approached the North Portico entrance, beaming.
"Welcome, Mr. Koons, right this way," she said, and led him into the lobby. "The President will see you in about twenty minutes, and Ms. Cortez-Luna and Premier Guess should be arriving shortly. Please, have a glass of water. This is Rosalynn Fischer, the President's daughter."
The Minority Leader's heart jumped a little bit when Rosalynn grinned. "A pleasure to meet you, Ms. Fischer," he said, extending his hand.
Rosalynn took his hand and stood, keeping eye contact and smiling. She shook his hand gently, then slid hers away.
"Please, have a seat. Let me get you something." She pranced over to the water jug and took a paper cup, filling it with water. As she walked back, her foot caught in her skirt and she dropped it.
"Oh! Let me pick that up," she said, bending down...

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Premier Theodore Guess (D) of California
Representative Isabella Cortez-Luna (L) from California's 8th District
Washington, DC


Theodore and Isabella sat on opposing sides of the limousine, both looked out their respective windows, they both looked at the same city, but saw completely different things.

Theo saw the power, the magnitude, the raw magnetism of this city. All the reason Washington, DC was his favorite city he felt all at once, just the thought of returning to this city to serve as it's country's President drove him wide inside. Isabella saw the very thing she opposed, in her utopia, the country would be a complete and utter direct democracy where the markets could run free like the bison of the Great Plains. There would be no President, no Congress, no Capital, just people and their voices. But, sadly, she knew her utopia would never come, at least in her lifetime. So, for now, she would do what she could as a Representative.

But, that didn't matter today. Today they're gathered here, to the White House, to convince the President of one or more Justice's wrongdoing on the people of California, and by extension, the rest of the country.

With the vehicle coming to a stop the two knew it was time, an usher opened up the door on Theo's side and they both climbed out of the vehicle, "Right this way." Another said as he brought the pair to the lobby to see that Rosalynn Fischer was distracting Mr. Koons with just the right amount cleavage and shaking of the hips to give him the old man a small mount in his pants.
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Jessman swung open to the door to the lobby and marched into the room from the Oval Office. Rosalynn looked disappointed that her fun was over.

"Mr. Koons, Ms. Cortez-Luna. Premier Guess. The President will see you now."

Once everyone was settled in the room — a process that involved much hugging from the President and offers of water, soda, maybe liquor — Dick Fischer strolled around behind the Resolute Desk, looked out the window for a moment, then whipped around.

"What sort of Tom-jiggery will we be up to today, folks? Surely such a multipartisan crowd has not rolled down Capitol Hill to talk about my budget proposal, brilliant as it may be."

The President made his way around the desk, then plopped on one of the couches, gesturing for the others to sit.

"I really am curious. To what do I owe the pleasure?"

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"Well, Mr. President, we think that several members of the Supreme Court have committed impeachable offenses in the leadup to their decision on Daniels v. California." Started Koons

"For one, The Constitution of California was basically my life's work for several years, it governs the state with a sixth of this country population, it's made waves in the political scene of this country and most states for years. We believe a major reason for Gorsuch's vote saying it is unconstitutional is his partisan bias. I'm one of the most left-leaning major party nominee's in this country's history, Gorsuch is currently the Supreme Court's most conservative right-winger. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that he thought it could only help the Republican's win the Presidency with such a massive blow to the Democratic Nominee. We think that's a High Crime and Misdemeanor." Suggested Guess.

"We also think Gorsuch put his own legacy before his duty. The man is 85, there's a real chance he could die in the next 4 years, he'd be 89 at the next election and 93 at the one after this. This could be his last chance for a Conservative to be in the White House. So in helping Egilson become President, he is trying to make sure that a Conservative will be there to replace him. Clearly, putting his legacy before his work is another High Crime and Misdemeanor." Said Cortez-Luna

"This then brings us to Chief Justice Martinez. Why we don't disagree with her decision to hear the case this term, we do disagree with her decision to issue a decision this term. Again, the outcome of this discussion would affect Premier Guess, as well as Mr. Egilson to a lesser extent. There is no rule that states that all cases that are heard in a term must be issued a decision this term. She could have easily waited until after the election to issue a decision. And seeing as how she also has a conservative bent, although much more of a centrist, we think her partisan biases affected her decisions, another High Crime and Misdemeanor." Said Koons

"We also don't think the Supreme Court has the authority to issue a discussion on this. In 1849, more than 200 years ago mind you, Mr. President. Luther v. Borden set a precedent, the Constitution guaranteed that Congress has the ultimate authority to determine if a state has a legitimate republican form of government." Added Cortez-Luna.

"And Congress approved the Californian Constitution in 2049, after Guess's Administration at the time spent it to. So Congress answered that yes, the Californian Constitution gives the state a legitimate republican form of Government. This would be another High Crime and Misdemeanor for Gorsuch and Martinez, as well as the other three Justices that voted to say that the Constitution was Unconstitutional." Said Koons.

"I personally think we should add a Treason charge onto all of them seeing as they broke a clearly defined law, partly set by the Supreme Court." Interjected Guess.

"We also have a problem with the majority opinion of the Court. Nowhere in it does Gorsuch, at least majorly, address the defendants argument that the Michigan Supreme Court stated that IRV, and by assumption, STV, are in accordance with one man, one vote. This would be a High Crime and Misdemeanor for Gorsuch." Stated Cortez-Luna.

"So we came here to tell you that we plan to introduce articles of impeachment on these Justices, as well as impeach and try them if we get that far." Said Guess plainly.

"As well as hear your advice and opinion on our plan and perhaps receive your blessing and support." Added in Koons before the President could react.

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Postby Helowi » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:43 pm

Wright Foreign trip Schedule for Egilson
Sunday: Flight to England. Speech on British and American television. Meeting with Prime Minister Gerald Anderson(Labour) about British-America Relationships.
Monday: Meeting with MP’s at Parliament. Speech in front of English Parliament.
Tuesday: Train to Scotland with Prime Minister Anderson. Meeting between PM Anderson, PM Andrew Blair of Scotland, President Andrew Connor of Ireland, and Gareth B. Wright about future Relations with America.
Wednesday: Meeting with MPs from Scotland. Speech in front of Scottish Parliament.
Thursday: Flight to South Korea. Rest day due to jet lag.
Friday: Meeting with President Hye-Jin Han of South Korea about future South Korean-American relations. Speech given on South Korean and American television.
Saturday: Flight back to America. Rest day.
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:30 pm

Fischer listened intently, raising his eyebrows a few times, and leaned forward when they were done speaking. He sat, thinking, for a moment.

"You know..." he said, possibly about to launch into a charming anecdote.

"Actually," he said, standing up, "y'all folks are hard to turn away. If anyone else had come to my office and told me they were going to impeach justices of the Supreme Court of these United States, I would have told them to get the hell out of my office, get far away from here. But you bring a good case. And I trust you folks. Especially you, Koons.

He continued, pacing around the Oval Office. "So I'll give you this. I'm sure you know, like any good president, I look forward to starting the Fischer Foundation after my work here is done. So I will not join you on such a, what would you say, a — a risky measure. But if it passes the House — or, if it looks like it is on the edge in the House, and it might be pushed over the edge, then I will come out in support of it. After all, the will of the people is my favorite of any number of wills."

He resumed his seat behind the desk.

"I took an oath — actually, I think we all did — to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. I see that as the purpose of my involvement here." He gestured toward the ceiling, making it unclear whether he was talking about the impeachment or his job in general. "So if you can convince the House of Representatives that that is what this is — that it's about the Constitution, not politics — then you can convince me. That is my challenge to you. Convince me, folks, and I'll take it from there."
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"Challenge excepted Mr. President," Said Guess, looking at the man he continued, "I can't endorse the impeachment publically because it could destroy my campaign, and it would turn this into even more of a partisan issue than it could already be perceived as, so besides today and possibly talking with the Congressional Delegation from California, I can't do much else for the time being."

"Because I plan on introducing the articles of impeachment on Gorsuch and Flint and Martinez and the rest of them the next Tuesday after the one coming up we'll have act fast and convince the members of the Judiciary Committee." Said Cortez-Luna.

"I'll get the Whips on it then for the Democrats. I'm assuming you can convince the Libertarians in the Republican's Majority, if they'll even need convincing seeing as they're all from California?" Asked Koons.

"Then once in the House, you'll get the debate going, and show them all that these Justices have broken the law. I'm assuming it will be the most challenging to get a supermajority in the Senate, as well as finding a presiding officer, the only other time a Supreme Court Justice had an impeachment trial the Vice President presided, but Isabella's Alzheimers could be used by those against an impeachment to say she isn't fit to preside, even though it's in the only in the early, early, stages. The President pro tempore maybe? We'll just have to let Senate decide in the end." Said Guess.

"Well, I believe that's all we came here to do Mr. President, permission to be excused?" Asked Koons.

"Wait, just a second Koons." Commanded Guess, "Mr. President," He said, leaning into the President, "I'm just wondering, seeing as when you officially endorsed my campaign for President you didn't give an answer as to if you'd be willing to campaign on my behalf. Seeing as we're in each other's presence at the moment, I'm wondering if you'd be willing to campaign for Guess/Randolph 2052 in Florida and possibly in other states, the ones you're popular in. You remain popular in your home state to this day, and if you've seen the recent polls, it's a swing state at the moment. Now I'm not sure if you endorsed me out of necessity or because you actually want me to be your successor and care for any of my policies, and even though we disagree on our fair share of issues, your help would still be extremely appreciated."
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