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Vienna Eliot
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Founded: Feb 16, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Vienna Eliot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:39 pm

"Hm," the President mumbled, possibly having forgotten about his endorsement.

"I will see if I can fit it in my schedule. Jessman will be in touch with your folks. Jessman!"

Jessman bolted into the room and stood at attention. "Yes, Mr. President!"

"Show our friends the way out. Get the Premier's campaign manager, his or her info. We'll need to be in touch with them."

Fischer turned to Guess as Jessman was leading them out the door. "And one more thing, before you go, Theo. Don't take anyone for granted, my young man. Especially not the President of the United States."


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New Cobastheia
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Postby New Cobastheia » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:09 pm

Guess/Randolph 2052 Campaign Schedules

Theo Guess
Sunday:
    Rally/Fundraiser at the University of Illinois (8am-10am)
    Various Rallys/Fundraisers with Randolph and Santiago in Chicago Metro (12pm-7pm)
    Dinner/Fundraiser with Ticket and Partners in Chicago (8pm-10pm)
Monday:
    Rally in Marquette, MI on EPEGP with Sen. El-Bacchus (8am-9am)
    Flight to Lansing, MI (9:30am-12pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser at Michigan State University with Sen. El-Bacchus (12:30pm-2pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser at the University of Michigan with Sen. El-Bacchus (3pm-5pm)
    Rally in Dearborn with Sen. El-Bacchus* (6pm-7pm)
    Dinner/Fundraiser in Detroit (8pm-10pm)
Tuesday:
    Rally in Cleveland on Voting Reform with Gov. Randolph (7am-9am)
    Flight to Denver, CO (10am-1pm EST)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Denver on Nationwide Weed Legalization and Environmentalism (12pm-2pm)
    Flight to Phoenix, AZ (2:30pm-4pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Phoneix, AZ with Santiago* (4:30pm-6:30pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Tuscon, AZ with Santiago* (8:30pm-9:30pm)
Wednesday:
    Rally/Fundraiser in Eugene, OR with Form. Gov. Navarro on EPEGP (7am-8:30am)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Portland, OR and Vancouver, WA with Form. Gov. Navarro on EPEGP (10:30am-12pm)
    Flight to Seattle, WA (12pm-1pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Seattle, WA on EPEGP (1:30pm-3pm)
    Flight to Spokane, WA (3pm-4pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Spokane, WA on Voting Reform (5pm-7pm)
    Dinner/Fundraiser in Spokane, WA (8pm-10pm)
Thursday:
    Rally/Fundraiser in Kansas City, MO with Gov. Randolph on Voting Reform (7am-9am)
    Flight to St Louis, MO (9:30am-10:30am)
    Rally/Fundraiser in St Louis, MO with Gov. Randolph on Voting Reform and EPEGP (11am-12pm)
    Flight to Little Rock, AR (12pm-1pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Little Rock, AR on Voting Reform (1:30pm-3pm)
    Flight to Layafette, LA (3pm-4pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Layafette, LA with Gov. Osbourne (4pm-5pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Baton Rouge, LA with Gov. Osbourne (6pm-7pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in New Orleans, LA with Gov. Osbourne (8:15pm-10pm)
Friday:
    Rally/Fundraiser in Charlotte, NC (8am-10am)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Greensboro, NC (11:30am-1:30pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Ralegh, NC (3pm-5pm)
    Flight to Norfolk, VA (5pm-6pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Norfolk, VA (6pm-8pm)
    Dinner/Fundraiser in Richmond, VA (9:30pm-11pm)
Saturday:
    Rest, Prep, and Debate

Eric Santiago
Sunday:
    Various Rallys/Fundraisers with Guess and Randolph in Chicago Metro (12pm-7pm)
    Dinner/Fundraiser with Ticket and Partners in Chicago (8pm-10pm)
Monday:
    Campaigning in Hispanic Majority Areas in Washington and Oregon
Tuesday:
    Rally/Fundraiser in El Paso, TX* (7am-9am)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Albuquerque, NM* (1pm-3pm)
    Flight to Phoenix (3:15pm-4:15pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Phoneix, AZ with Guess* (4:30pm-6:30pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Tuscon, AZ with Guess* (8:30pm-9:30pm)
Wednesday:
    Campaigning in Hispanic Areas in the Chicago Metro
Thursday:
    Campaigning in Hispanic Areas in the Northeast
Friday:
    Campaigning in Hispanic Areas in Texas with Gov. Santos
Saturday:
    Rest, Prep, and Debate

Victoria Randolph
Sunday:
    Church in Chicago (9am-10am)
    Various Rallys/Fundraisers with Guess and Santiago in Chicago Metro (12pm-7pm)
    Dinner/Fundraiser with Ticket and Partners in Chicago (8pm-10pm)
Monday:
    Rally/Fundraiser in Philadelphia, PA (8am-10am)
    Rally/Fundraiser in New York City, NY (12pm-2pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Providence, RI (5pm-7pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Boston, MA (8pm-10pm)
Tuesday:
    Rally in Cleveland, OH on Voting Reform with Prem. Guess (7am-9am)
    Rally in Columbus, OH on Voting Reform (11:30am-1:30pm)
    Rally in Cincinnati, OH on Voting Reform (3:30pm-5:30pm)
Wednesday:
    Rally/Fundraier in Boston, MA (8am-10am)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Providence, RI (11am-1pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in New York City, NY (4pm-6pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Philadelphia, PA (8pm-10pm)
Thursday:
    Rally/Fundraiser in Kansas City, MO with Prem. Guess on Voting Reform (7am-9am)
    Flight to St Louis, MO (9:30am-10:30am)
    Rally/Fundraiser in St Louis, MO with Prem. Guess on Voting Reform and EPEGP (11am-12pm)
    Flight to Jackson, MS (12pm-2pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Jackson, MS (2pm-3pm)
    Flight to Mobile, AL (3pm-4pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Mobile, AL (4pm-5pm)
    Flight to Montgomery, AL (5pm-6pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Montgomery, AL (6pm-7pm)
    Dinner/Fundraiser in Birmingham, AL (8:30pm-10pm)
Friday:
    Rally/Fundraiser in Columbus, GA (7am-9am)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Atlantia, GA (11am-1pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser at Georgia Tech (2pm-3pm)
    Rally/Fundraiser in Augusta, GA (5pm-7pm)
    Dinner/Fundraiser in Savanah, GA (9:30pm-11pm)
Saturday:
    Rest, Prep, and Debate

*Bilingual Event - English and Spanish with Guess and Santiago, English and Arabic with Guess and El-Bacchus, English and Spanish if Santiago

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Postby Zjaum » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:53 pm

Excerpt from speech at Atlanta, Georgia
"I've always thought that we need a revival of the Christian faith. We have record numbers of people turning away from God as they reach their teens, and we have a nation of people that refuse to take responsibility for their own actions. Charity is down, and we're at a loss when it comes to a life purpose. Worst of all, we have a church that is separated from these crises, either to scared to speak out or too interested in bringing new sources of revenue (oh, I'm sorry, members) to care about the important things. The Christian faith used to be a powerhouse, a bastion of virtue that practically wrote American morality into our ways of life. The Christian church has given billions to charity, and I want to see it revived again! Be proud of what you've accomplished! Be not afraid, for the Lord your God is with you! Stand firm, and speak out on the issues that you care about! I want you to be a beacon of light. People without purpose flock to strength and leadership, and it is your job to do so. I have many criticisms about the modern church, but its hesitation is at the forefront. You are all good people, and you need to move as one body to bring the Word of God to the rest of the nation!"


Excerpt from speech at Tampa Bay, Florida
"From what I've seen in history, I've thought about ways to help the poor. The South have had two centuries' worth of incomes far below the rest of the States, and nothing our government has done could ever change that. It's not even that they should; a massive government can only lead to poverty for anyone not directly paying them or contributing for their campaign. Yet this is the region that desperately needs the help of the United States. Rising waters in a practically below-sea-level state, annual hurricanes and tropical storms- something must be done.

"And so, to you all, I propose a plan. It's unorthodox, and perhaps a little insane, but it's relatively cheap, and I believe that it will bring a lasting impact, not just for the South but across our great nation. The running title is The Great Paint, which... I'm working on it. <pause for laughter> Here's what it is. We hire a group of painters, gardeners, and all other sorts of contractors. We go into the ghettos of large cities and the rural areas, and we turn their small corners of the nation into respectable neighborhoods. We then make a deal with the landlords to keep their prices pat, and we sit back and watch. See, I think that, not the cause, but a major cause of the upward mobility stagnation in this country is psychological. I think that, if people are given the right mindset, most Americans can do great things. If I'm wrong, then the project would have been chump change compared to what we spend on the military and national security, anyways."


Vlog
"Hello, everyone! The Atlantic seaboard campaign is reaching its close. I wanted to thank everyone for their support in this process, and I'd love to talk with you guys further if I didn't get a chance during the campaign. In the meantime, if you want me to swing by your hometown, send me an email, and I'll look into it! In the meantime, I'd love to share with you the plans that I have after the seaboard is complete. I know you all have been watching Wright's trip to Korea closely, as I certainly have. He's been such a good man during this campaign, and I greatly appreciate all his support. He's going to be the best damn vice president yet! In the meantime, though, I'm planning on going across the ocean to Germany, Poland, and the Baltic States. They've been good allies of NATO, and I believe it would be a measure of good faith to show our appreciation. When I come back, I'll be heading to Arizona. Keep those requests coming, and I'll see you soon!"
I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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Postby Helowi » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:11 pm

Gareth B. Wright Speech in front of English Parliament
“Good Evening, people of the great country of England. In the last couple of decades, the country of England and Britain in general have had an economic problem due to an exit from the European Union, and in turn the secession of Scotland and Northern Ireland from Great Brittain. However, in the last couple of years, England has been recovering steadily under the leadership of people like Prime Minister Gerald Anderson. England can say after years of economic uncertainty, that they are doing better than they were doing back in 2020. And like most of you, I want the economic situations of England and the United States to overall get better and eventually prosper like they have in the past.

I believe that with cooperation between our two great powers, that we shall continue to power through and become the greatest countries in the whole wide world. I look forward to working with England and Brittain in general whether I go back to being a senator from my great state of Minnesota, or I become the next Vice President of the United States. Thank you for listening to me, and long live England.”
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95
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Vienna Eliot
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Vienna Eliot » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:39 pm

Vice Presidential Debate, 2052
NBC Headquarters | New York, NY
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"Please welcome Governor Victoria Randolph from Georgia... and United States Senator Gareth Wright from Minnesota..."

A little robot pivoted the camera to film both candidates coming on stage, waving.

A visibly frail Lester Holt made his way on stage as well. "NBC's own Lester Holt will be asking the questions tonight. Please welcome him on stage."

Holt grinned, looking like he was about to fucking die right then and there, and slowly raised up an arm to wave. Then he turned to the candidates.

"Thanks Jimmy, Elaine. Since the rules have been explained, we can jump right into this debate." His left eye flicked toward his nose, obviously reading the teleprompter on his glasses. "With that, both candidates are now welcome to give their introductions."
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Postby Helowi » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:43 pm

Opening Statement
“Good evening, people of the great country of America. In the history of this great country, we are at a crucial time were this country will either continue to prosper and be the great superpower that it is, or the U.S. will fall behind other countries and not be recognized in the true glory that it was known for. We need someone in the White House who can look at both sides of the argument, take the best parts of both sides, and make sure that everyone’s concerns are satisfied. A Guess White House would continue with its partisan politics and refuse to communicate with republicans on a majority of issues. If I am elected as your Vice President, I will look at both sides of the argument. I will be prepared at anytime to take the Oval Office if the president cannot serve. And if the sad day comes when the president can’t take office, I will be up to bat and ready to swing the second that I take the position as President of the United States of America. Thank you.”
Wright then smiled and took a sip of his water
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Ex-Nation

Postby Zjaum » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:59 pm

Excerpt from speech at Krakow, Poland

"Hello, Polska! It is great to see you all here! I thought that I would try my hand at Polish. Foreign languages were always a little fun for me, zwłaszcza, że ​​jedynym językiem oferowanym w Kalifornii był hiszpański! <pause for laughter>

"Nie, ale najbardziej kocham Polaków za ich wiarę i ducha. Graniczyłeś z dwiema niewygodnymi mocami i zostały przejęte więcej razy, niż mógłbyś zliczyć. Większość ludzi i kultur w całej historii byłaby po prostu rozproszona. Twoja narodowa tożsamość i wiara w Boga prowadziły cię przez cały czas, a twoja kultura była zawsze wierna! Walczyłeś z zębami i gwoździami, często samotnie, aby utrzymać swój naród na powierzchni. Jest to rodzaj narodu, którego pragnę jako sojusznika i tego rodzaju ducha, który chcę znaleźć w Ameryce! Mieliśmy już to uczucie i chcę tego jeszcze raz! Niech żyje Polska Niech Bóg błogosławi Polsce! Boże błogosław Amerykę!"

No, but I love Poles the most for their faith and spirit. You bordered on two uncomfortable powers and were taken over more times than you could count. Most people and cultures throughout history would simply be dispersed. Your national identity and faith in God led you all the time, and your culture was always faithful! You fought with teeth and nails, often alone, to keep your nation afloat. This is the kind of nation that I want as an ally and the kind of spirit I want to find in America! We already had this feeling and I want it again! Long live Poland. God bless Poland! God bless America!
I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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New Cobastheia
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Ex-Nation

Postby New Cobastheia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:03 pm

Victoria listened closely as Wright spoke. She knew that if she appeared calm, cool, level-headed, it could calm the voters. The opposite side to the same coin, with such similar policies, if they wanted the calm the nation and convince them to vote Guess/Randolph, they needed to appear different. A different temperament, they decided together. Guess the quick-talking, firebrand. Randolph the quick-witted, rationalist. However, this time, she couldn't help but go on the attack to defend her longtime friend, and she was going to go into it with as much quick-witted rationalist she could muster.

With her slight French Quarter/Georgian twang and the grammar of someone writing for an English Grammer Guide, she started, "Senator Wright is right. We need someone in the White House that will note all the needs and concerns before making a decision. But of the people, not the politicians.

That person is not Egilson, it's Guess. It was Guess when he brought proportional representation to the Californian Government, it was Guess when he brought universal single payer to the people of California, it was Guess when he stopped the production of a wasteful coin that cost more to make than it was worth, saving our country billions. It was Guess who brought these things, the things the people wanted. And where was Representative Egilson? Calling one of the fairest and equal states in the union a hellhole, fighting against a system that allowed for a political climate for him to get his seat in Congress.

If am I elected Vice President, I will support the policies that Guess and I promised to bring to this nation. The people who vote Guess/Randolph come November don't have to worry, god forbid, anything happens to my friend and their President, I will be there to continue on with what we promised. Meanwhile, if someone votes Egilson/Wright I can't help but wonder, will they not think about the fact that Egilson, the most conservative in the Republican Primary and, if he is, again, god forbid, incapacitated, he will be replaced with someone so to the left on social issues that he is to the left of some of his Democratic colleagues in Congress, the same person who said that people shouldn't vote for Egilson because he hasn't paid his dues to the party? The American people do not want nor need another Andrew Johnson, and if it ever happens, they would need and want another Lyndon B. Johnson.

And even if Senator Wright does think he has what it takes to take his swing at running this fine nation, we have no proof of his claim. He's never had to work a hard day in his life nor has he ever had any leadership roles in government.

His family could afford him tutors, my family couldn't afford to go to the hospital to fix my brother's broken hand. Yet both of us still graduated valedictorian. I very well could have never gone to college if Yale didn't give me a full ride, regardless of however much financial aid Wright got from his college, I highly doubt his family couldn't afford college. I fought tooth and nail to become a Rhodes Scholar to get an even better education than I already had. Meanwhile, Wright was a board member on his father's tech company right out of college and inherited the CEO-ship after his death.

He's only been in Congress for 4 years, with his lack of seniority and his willingness to cross the floor in Congress, there is no way he has gotten much leadership experience in the last 4 years. Meanwhile, during my time as a Senator I was the second in command for the progressive wing of my party, then becoming the leader of the wing after Guess became the Governor of California. And for the last 6 years of my life, I have been serving the great people of Georgia as their Governor.

If Wright would be ready to swing I would already be making home runs. And that is my opening statement, thank you very much."

Victoria couldn't quite tell the reaction of the audience, all she really knew is that she has probably gone way over the time limit for an opening statement. But she knew that she has just become what could very well be a new political animal to the American people, one that they may have never seen before. Black, articulate, powerful, smart, a mother. However the audience felt, she felt powerful, she could feel her confidence, almost as if it was radiated off herself and into the audience.
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Postby Helowi » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:50 am

New Cobastheia wrote:Victoria listened closely as Wright spoke. She knew that if she appeared calm, cool, level-headed, it could calm the voters. The opposite side to the same coin, with such similar policies, if they wanted the calm the nation and convince them to vote Guess/Randolph, they needed to appear different. A different temperament, they decided together. Guess the quick-talking, firebrand. Randolph the quick-witted, rationalist. However, this time, she couldn't help but go on the attack to defend her longtime friend, and she was going to go into it with as much quick-witted rationalist she could muster.

With her slight French Quarter/Georgian twang and the grammar of someone writing for an English Grammer Guide, she started, "Senator Wright is right. We need someone in the White House that will note all the needs and concerns before making a decision. But of the people, not the politicians.

That person is not Egilson, it's Guess. It was Guess when he brought proportional representation to the Californian Government, it was Guess when he brought universal single payer to the people of California, it was Guess when he stopped the production of a wasteful coin that cost more to make than it was worth, saving our country billions. It was Guess who brought these things, the things the people wanted. And where was Representative Egilson? Calling one of the fairest and equal states in the union a hellhole, fighting against a system that allowed for a political climate for him to get his seat in Congress.

If am I elected Vice President, I will support the policies that Guess and I promised to bring to this nation. The people who vote Guess/Randolph come November don't have to worry, god forbid, anything happens to my friend and their President, I will be there to continue on with what we promised. Meanwhile, if someone votes Egilson/Wright I can't help but wonder, will they not think about the fact that Egilson, the most conservative in the Republican Primary and, if he is, again, god forbid, incapacitated, he will be replaced with someone so to the left on social issues that he is to the left of some of his Democratic colleagues in Congress, the same person who said that people shouldn't vote for Egilson because he hasn't paid his dues to the party? The American people do not want nor need another Andrew Johnson, and if it ever happens, they would need and want another Lyndon B. Johnson.

And even if Senator Wright does think he has what it takes to take his swing at running this fine nation, we have no proof of his claim. He's never had to work a hard day in his life nor has he ever had any leadership roles in government.

His family could afford him tutors, my family couldn't afford to go to the hospital to fix my brother's broken hand. Yet both of us still graduated valedictorian. I very well could have never gone to college if Yale didn't give me a full ride, regardless of however much financial aid Wright got from his college, I highly doubt his family couldn't afford college. I fought tooth and nail to become a Rhodes Scholar to get an even better education than I already had. Meanwhile, Wright was a board member on his father's tech company right out of college and inherited the CEO-ship after his death.

He's only been in Congress for 4 years, with his lack of seniority and his willingness to cross the floor in Congress, there is no way he has gotten much leadership experience in the last 4 years. Meanwhile, during my time as a Senator I was the second in command for the progressive wing of my party, then becoming the leader of the wing after Guess became the Governor of California. And for the last 6 years of my life, I have been serving the great people of Georgia as their Governor.

If Wright would be ready to swing I would already be making home runs. And that is my opening statement, thank you very much."

Victoria couldn't quite tell the reaction of the audience, all she really knew is that she has probably gone way over the time limit for an opening statement. But she knew that she has just become what could very well be a new political animal to the American people, one that they may have never seen before. Black, articulate, powerful, smart, a mother. However the audience felt, she felt powerful, she could feel her confidence, almost as if it was radiated off herself and into the audience.

Wright smiled when Victoria answered as he knew how he wanted to respond to her comments.

“There are so many things wrong with your statements, I don’t even know where to start, Governor Randolph.

I guess I should start with the obvious. You say I am as left than a lot of democratic members of Congress. Governor Randolph, I have been given an A rating by the National Rifle Association, I have been a vocal critic of marijuana legalization, I am Pro-Choice, and you can find many other conservative views of mine if you look at my voting record. If that is the Democratic Party that you think I am closer to, then why are you apart of it?

Second of all, leadership. I was the CEO of Wright Electronics and while I was CEO, I was faced with multiple hard, split second decisions. When there was a labor strike down in one of my factories in Nebraska, I went down to Nebraska, met with the factory workers that were on strike, and came up with a deal that satisfied both the factory workers and I. As CEO, I expanded Wright Industries and built factories from Montana, to Oklahoma, to even your home state of Georgia, Governor Randolph.

Third of all, I believe your statement that Egilson called the state of California a hellhole is extremely misleading. I believe what a whole bunch of Americans also believe, that he loves California with his whole heart and soul and would give everything including his kidney to his own state just to keep it running and to make sure it continues to be one of the greatest states in the Union.

Fourth of all, we don’t need someone who can work with the politicians and we don’t need someone who works for the people, we need a person who works with both. I will listen to the politicians down in Washington, but I will also keep in mind the concerns of the people of the world. From the people of Jeju City in South Korea, a place I have visited last week, to the people living all the way down in Medford, Oregon.

Governor Randolph, while I do have respect for your backstory and what you have risen to become, I even sometimes admire your story myself, I believe that you have mislead a lot of people with some of your statements. So I would like to ask the people of America who they trust more in the seat of Vice President. And I hope that by the end of tonight, that question may be answered. Thank you.”

Wright looked out at the audience. He was hoping to come out on top with the last statement he made and he hoped to keep up his steam throughout the debate and come on top. And so far, he thought he was doing it.
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Postby New Cobastheia » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:19 pm

Helowi wrote:Wright smiled when Victoria answered as he knew how he wanted to respond to her comments.

“There are so many things wrong with your statements, I don’t even know where to start, Governor Randolph.

I guess I should start with the obvious. You say I am as left than a lot of democratic members of Congress. Governor Randolph, I have been given an A rating by the National Rifle Association, I have been a vocal critic of marijuana legalization, I am Pro-Choice, and you can find many other conservative views of mine if you look at my voting record. If that is the Democratic Party that you think I am closer to, then why are you apart of it?

Second of all, leadership. I was the CEO of Wright Electronics and while I was CEO, I was faced with multiple hard, split second decisions. When there was a labor strike down in one of my factories in Nebraska, I went down to Nebraska, met with the factory workers that were on strike, and came up with a deal that satisfied both the factory workers and I. As CEO, I expanded Wright Industries and built factories from Montana, to Oklahoma, to even your home state of Georgia, Governor Randolph.

Third of all, I believe your statement that Egilson called the state of California a hellhole is extremely misleading. I believe what a whole bunch of Americans also believe, that he loves California with his whole heart and soul and would give everything including his kidney to his own state just to keep it running and to make sure it continues to be one of the greatest states in the Union.

Fourth of all, we don’t need someone who can work with the politicians and we don’t need someone who works for the people, we need a person who works with both. I will listen to the politicians down in Washington, but I will also keep in mind the concerns of the people of the world. From the people of Jeju City in South Korea, a place I have visited last week, to the people living all the way down in Medford, Oregon.

Governor Randolph, while I do have respect for your backstory and what you have risen to become, I even sometimes admire your story myself, I believe that you have mislead a lot of people with some of your statements. So I would like to ask the people of America who they trust more in the seat of Vice President. And I hope that by the end of tonight, that question may be answered. Thank you.”

Wright looked out at the audience. He was hoping to come out on top with the last statement he made and he hoped to keep up his steam throughout the debate and come on top. And so far, he thought he was doing it.

As Victoria listened to Wright's counter-arguments, as he continued she became more and more shocked. One couldn't tell from her face, but she was deeply confused. Theodore, after all, had told her so many times in their debate prep to be careful, that Wright was the true debator of the Republican Ticket of 2052. Why was he making so many shitty counterarguments?

"Yes, I would call supporting Universal Basic Income a right-wing thing. I would call advocating for more protections for the LGBT a right-wing thing. Wanting to strictly enforce affirmative action nationwide is a very right-wing thing to do. Hell, I think I could even call wanting more genders in health textbooks nationwide a right-wing thing." She started with an extreme dose of sarcasm and transitioned to a serious tone in an instant, "And as you bring up my party, I'd like to bring up why I'm part of it, because everyone in our nation is forced into one of these two boxes if they want to have their views expressed.

To me, a party is a means to election. Both parties are massive networks that are almost always destroying themselves because they have so many types of voters under one name. And It's absolutely sickening that they have forced their will on the nation, basically disenfranchising millions of would-be voters who views don't line up with the Republicans or Democrats.

Take your own Presidental Canadite, Egilson is a Libertarian, without IVF in California, it's questionable if the people would have been willing or able to elect a Libertarian to Congress. And because of the Electoral College, he sought the Republican nomination, not the Libertarian one. He knew it was the only way he could have actually became President.

That is why Guess/Randolph would get rid of the only two things keeping us suck in this vile two-party system, the Electoral College and First Past the Post voting. For us, it doesn't matter the party, it matters if the votes get what the voters wanted and that every voter can be represented in a meaningful way.

Now on to your second point. At what point in our great nation's history has being a CEO shown that you can take on the Presidency? Succesful Businessmen make terrible Presidents. The responsibilities of a CEO has may seem similar to that of a President, they are very different things. A CEO has to bring a profit to the shareholders, it doesn't matter how, all it matters is that they do it. A President has to bring a better nation to the people and will face backlash at every single turn from someone, whether it be voters who oppose him, his own voters, or the international community. A CEO doesn't have these pressure. Just think of it like this, if a Mayor closed down a barely used and money-draining firehouse or something of the like, it creates a scandal that can bring him down. A CEO closes down a poor branch and no one cares other than the workers. Let alone the fact that a CEO definitely doesn't have a system of checks and balances to keep him or her in check.

And you really think the man loves California? When he was asked how hellish it is to live in Guess's California on a scale of 1-10, with 1 being the worst. He said 2 or 3, he advocated for the creation of the State of Jefferson. Yes, the man who would rather live in a state that has yet to be created would give everything to California. And then he misled his own supporters. Premier Guess made it clear when crafting their Constitution, the Head of State in California would be called Premier, not Prime Minister, following the same precedent set by the Provinces in Canada and Australia. But Representative Egilson said, in the same answer, that California is like Soviet Russia simply because Theodore Guess is a Premier.

And do you and Representative Egilson really think that you two can position your ticket as the ticket with more foreign policy experience? While I commend the both of you for taking the time to visit our allies worldwide during the campaign, I still must say there is a reason that Guess and I don't need to take these trips, the American People already know we are the ticket with the most foreign policy experience. While you and Representative Egilson are just now putting your feet in the ocean that is foreign policy, Guess and I have been neck-deep for decades.

As Senators, both of us took numerous trips worldwide to represent the United States and Progressivism, not to mention that when both of us served in Congress, our nation wasn't isolationist, allowing the both of us countless opportunities to gain experience in the Foreign Policy field. As Governors, we have represented our states to the other states, in an almost direct parallel to the foreign policy relations. We have to work with our neighbors on things we both need and want and we worked to promote our states around the world. And as a member of a Tribal Council, he had to represent not only his tribe but, all the tribes to our nation.

And so I feel that I must ask a slightly different question to the American People. Who do you think, between the two of us at this table, would be the better President? The woman who would continue the policies of her predecessor and give the American People what they voted for or the man who thinks his own Presidental Nominee hasn't paid the party it's dues, yet somehow won it's Presidental Nomination?"

Well, at least Theodore was right about one thing, Wright likes to have a fight, and he won't shut up till he wins. Of course, Victoria wasn't about to just concede the debate and promise anyone an Egilson/Wright victory, so her only remaining option was to break the man sitting across from her, something she has done to people before and will be perfectly fine with doing so tonight if need be. Now, time to hopefully get on with the actual debate, unless of course, Wright wants to continue with their squabble and continue to sound like a broken record with his thank yous, you're here to debate so why are you thanking people for something you have to do!? Or, of course, Lester Holt has died. Victoria's money is on the former, but she clearly has some on the latter as well.
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Lester Holt stood there, mouth open at how quickly the debate had gotten started. He was impressed, really, and glad that the last election he would live to see would be a good one.

"Well, well! It looks like our candidates are ready to debate, right guys?" he asked the audience, who cheered. They were enthusiastic — both sides clearly fired up for their candidate. Jimmy Fallon looked mortified at Holt's ability to control the crowd so well. It was uncanny.

"Let's, then, move into our first of three big questions for this debate. This first one, it's a tough one, and a spin on a classic: the most die-hard supporters around the country are fired up and ready to go for you guys. But many Americans feel that the fiery rhetoric espoused not just by your running mates, but it looks, tonight, like by you folks too—" the crowd chuckled "—many Americans see this as reflecting on politics of a time they thought was long gone. The question, then, is this: do you have the temperament to be the Vice President of the United States? If you take office, it will most certainly be in a crisis. Are you preparing to follow the time-tested mold of a reserved vice-leader, or are you willing to set a new precedent?"

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"As Vice President I would be President Guess's most senior advisor and advocate, his closest confidant in government. The temperament I'd need is one that works well with my President. Regardless of who, the President and Vice President need to have a certain kind of chemistry in our modern era, the need to trust each other. Or else the whole executive branch, and by extension, the rest of the government could fall apart in shambles. Guess and I have been friends for years, we know how we both work, we know each other's sense of humor and politics, we know each other as friends and colleagues. We support each other, we trust each other, we know each other.

Which is more than I can say for Egilson and Wright, these two fought each other in the most brutal primary season in American History, ushering in the first contested convention in a century and the first one when we have a system where the nominee has been democratically elected via the primaries. Which helps to explain why the two of them barely ever campaign together, and if they do it's so rare I can't remember ever hearing about it, whereas Guess and I campaign together at least one day a week, if not more.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Egilson only chose Wright to be his running mate to gain voters. These two men had nearly split the Republican Party in two, meanwhile Guess had been the presumed nominee for months. Egilson ultimately let strategy chose his running mate for him, he knew that without Wright he could be losing a massive amount of voters. As for if the Egilson/Wright ticket wins, I have to wonder what role Senator Wright will have in the White House, especially if my theory is correct. All I know is that people who are voting for the ticket because's Wright is on it are sure to be disappointed, they'd have to wait for Egilson to be removed, be it a resignation, impeachment, or death, for them to feel like their votes mattered in this new administration."

The way Victoria flowed from the first to the second and third paragraphs was paramount to understanding what angle she was taking this argument, as well as making herself seem different from Guess. If Guess was the one speaking, odds are he would yell it out in some form or another, pound it into their heads, making people believe it in part from sheer force. Victoria's method of speech made her sound a bit like a doctor at times. She was following a something to its logical conclusion, making sure, as hard as she could, that the voters and viewers could follow along, allowing for them to perhaps believe her argument.
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Vienna Eliot wrote:Lester Holt stood there, mouth open at how quickly the debate had gotten started. He was impressed, really, and glad that the last election he would live to see would be a good one.

"Well, well! It looks like our candidates are ready to debate, right guys?" he asked the audience, who cheered. They were enthusiastic — both sides clearly fired up for their candidate. Jimmy Fallon looked mortified at Holt's ability to control the crowd so well. It was uncanny.

"Let's, then, move into our first of three big questions for this debate. This first one, it's a tough one, and a spin on a classic: the most die-hard supporters around the country are fired up and ready to go for you guys. But many Americans feel that the fiery rhetoric espoused not just by your running mates, but it looks, tonight, like by you folks too—" the crowd chuckled "—many Americans see this as reflecting on politics of a time they thought was long gone. The question, then, is this: do you have the temperament to be the Vice President of the United States? If you take office, it will most certainly be in a crisis. Are you preparing to follow the time-tested mold of a reserved vice-leader, or are you willing to set a new precedent?"


“I can tell the people of America this. As your Vice President, I will be even more professional than I was as a businessman and a senator combined. I will be calm, cool, and collected when I go into any situation and I will be the ambassador to the world that everyone wants a Vice President to be.

It has been mentioned by Governor Randolph that her and Guess have been friends for a very long time. I do not doubt that for even a second, but one of the quirks of being a businessman is that you pick up on people’s likes, dislikes, sense of humor, personality, and all other sorts of things very quickly. I have grown to known Egilson like a great friend and he has been one of the nicest people I have ever met.

And let me tell you this, people of America, if the sad, sad, sad day comes when the president can no longer serve and I have to take over ship, I want my legacy to be as a President that listened to everyone from the politicians up in Washington down to the blue collar workers of America. I will be ready on day one and as soon as I take office, I will meet with Democratic leaders and Republican Leaders in Congress. I would also like to meet Premier Guess and even Governor Randolph to talk about what they want to see accomplished with the environment and LGBTQ rights across this country.

As your Vice President and maybe even one day president, I want to unite this country and not further divide it, help it and not destroy it, care for it with my whole heart and never give less than one hundred percent. Thank you.”
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Helowi wrote:“I can tell the people of America this. As your Vice President, I will be even more professional than I was as a businessman and a senator combined. I will be calm, cool, and collected when I go into any situation and I will be the ambassador to the world that everyone wants a Vice President to be.

"Why so short on the details Senator Wright?" Victoria thought as he ended his paragraph.

Helowi wrote:And let me tell you this, people of America, if the sad, sad, sad day comes when the president can no longer serve and I have to take over ship, I want my legacy to be as a President that listened to everyone from the politicians up in Washington down to the blue collar workers of America. I will be ready on day one and as soon as I take office, I will meet with Democratic leaders and Republican Leaders in Congress. I would also like to meet Premier Guess and even Governor Randolph to talk about what they want to see accomplished with the environment and LGBTQ rights across this country.

"Going into what type of President he'd be before going into, at least in-depth, what role he served as Vice President? And why worry about your legacy in an office you have no way of knowing you'll ever get? Oh, please tell me you two have actually talked about this and your not just running for this office to boost your own prospects in 4 or 8 or 12 years!"

Helowi wrote:As your Vice President and maybe even one day president, I want to unite this country and not further divide it, help it and not destroy it, care for it with my whole heart and never give less than one hundred percent. Thank you.”

"Said everyone who ever ran for this office, or any office for that matter, while it has meant something."

"Senator Wright," Victoria started with a hint of confusion in her voice, "I believe you are trying to dodge the question. The question was asked was about what kind of Vice President you would be, and instead of giving the American people a direct answer, you give them campaign sayings. I'm pretty sure no one who has ever ran for office at this high of a level has wanted to give anything less than 100%, and what do you mean by Ambassador to the World exactly? As far as most Vice Presidents have been concerned, on the world stage, the most you do is attend funerals and weddings the President doesn't want to do to, its the President and Secretary of State who do most of the important stuff internationally after all.

And then you tell us what you would make your own Administration like, we aren't running for President. Egilson and Guess are, they are the Administrations the people are concerned with, they want to know what our roles as Vice President would be in them, and while it is always a possibility that either one of them could, unfortunately, be removed by a bullet, it's a fact of the office. The focus of this debate, at the present, is on what we are trying to get elected for, not a possible crisis we could be in.

So please, if you would, tell the American people that you and Representative Egilson have, at the very least, talked about what role you would serve in an Egilson Administration.

As for if I ever became President if Guess leaves the office prematurely. Well, in the long run, it would be myself who brings us into the modern world and creates a more perfect union instead of Guess. As for the short term, I can personally promise the American people that if he is, god forbid, assassinated, that his assassin will be brought to justice and will pay for his crime against our nation for the rest of his or her natural life. That is what I would focus on if I was told I was President, bring the person to justice who made it that way, not my legacy in an office I wasn't elected to."
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"Our final question," Holt said, waiting to see if Wright would respond before continuing, "has to do with your role as a leader in your party. No doubt, simply by seeking this office you have become a leader in your respective parties and ideological circles. But as Vice President, will you side with the President — say, when you have to break a contentious tie vote in the Senate, or when you need to choose candidates to endorse for lower races — or will you be your own man, or, uh, woman, in Observatory Circle? And of course, this part of the question has to go without saying — do you have presidential aspirations yourself?"

"Feel free to provide a closing statement after you have both answered this question."

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Vienna Eliot wrote:"Our final question," Holt said, waiting to see if Wright would respond before continuing, "has to do with your role as a leader in your party. No doubt, simply by seeking this office you have become a leader in your respective parties and ideological circles. But as Vice President, will you side with the President — say, when you have to break a contentious tie vote in the Senate, or when you need to choose candidates to endorse for lower races — or will you be your own man, or, uh, woman, in Observatory Circle? And of course, this part of the question has to go without saying — do you have presidential aspirations yourself?"

"Feel free to provide a closing statement after you have both answered this question."

“Lester, I think I have made it obvious throughout my campaign that I will choose people over party. If I am the deciding vote in the senate, I will listen to both sides when I am making my vote. I will never make a vote purely because my party supports it, but rather what I think is the best choice for America.

As for candidates, I will endorse people based on whether they are willing to work with both parties. No matter if they are Democratic, Republican, Independent, or even libertarian. I want to go down in history as a person who worked for the better of the country, a person who got down to work with people not because of their ideology, but because they wanted to get stuff done as well.

I think I have made it clear that I did want to be president of the United States in this election cycle. If I will run in future election cycles though, I have no idea. However, I will make this promise to the people of the United States. Any decision I make as Vice President will never be purely because it makes me more electable to the people of the United States of America. Thank you.”
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"Regardless of how it may look, I would be my own woman in the Observatory Circle. In the Senate, I'd probably have my own opinions on the bill, as would Premier Guess, and the opinion that we're very likely to share is one of, will this be good for the people? If yes, I'd vote for it, if not, I would not vote for it.

As the President and Vice President are the two most important figures in our nation, we would work together to figure out who we want to endorse for Senate, House, and the various Governorships in 2018. However, if we do disagree on someone, I'd be perfectly fine endorsing him or her over the person Premier Guess wants to endorse.

As for Presidental Ambitions, I'm not going to lie, in the past, I have wanted to seek the nomination, but in both 2048 and this year, I felt that the needs of Georgia should come before my own. That's a philosophy I plan on bringing with me to the Vice Presidency, the needs of the United States should go before my own. As for the future, well it all depends, it's way to early to decide. But, I can say this, if I ever feel that the people of our nation are calling on me to become President and I feel up to the job, I will run.

I'll get on to my closing statement now" Victoria said before taking a sip of the water to add some suspense, "Throughout this debate, I hope that I have helped as many Americans as I possibly can in deciding which ticket they will vote for come November by showing them the two people vying to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Now, would you rather have the woman whose sole goal in all the government offices she's held is to help and serve the people, the woman who has experience in doing just that, who has worked with her running mate so many times it's reached an uncountable number. A woman who can bring function into the office and partnership with her President.

Or, would you rather have the man who disagrees with his running mate so much he campaigned against him to the very, bitter, end. A man with little experience just in general, but at what he promises to bring with him to the office, bipartisanship; just look at his most recent piece of failed legislation, the AI-Human Partnership Bill, a bill that had the noblest of intentions, something that I agreed with for the most part. But, if Senator Wright really had the skills he suggests he possesses, shouldn't he had been able to make that bill law? A man who has dodged questions tonight?

And in the most disastrous situation, who would you rather have at the head of our nation?

That is what I would like to leave all of you with tonight as we close this debate. Thank you all very much for listening and watching. May God bless all of you and God Bless America!"

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Marist College — Nationwide (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 45.27%
Guess/Randolph — 49.73%
+/- 5.29%
Gallup — Nationwide (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 45.10%
Guess/Randolph — 45.72%
+/- 4.32%
YouGov — Arizona (Registered Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 43.13%
Guess/Randolph — 45.78%
+/- 5.01%
Suffolk University — Massachusetts (Potential Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 48.63%
Guess/Randolph — 42.91%
+/- 5.01%
Mitchell Research & Communications — Florida (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 43.13%
Guess/Randolph — 43.82%
+/- 8.20%
George Washington University — Maryland (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 42.66%
Guess/Randolph — 48.38%
+/- 3.53%
National Journal — Texas (Potential Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 36.35%
Guess/Randolph — 45.72%
+/- 2.68%
Hendrix College — Texas (Likely Voters)
Egilson/Wright— 38.30%
Guess/Randolph — 38.30%
+/- 6.34%

RealClearPolitics — Nationwide Forecast
Egilson/Wright— 219 EV
Guess/Randolph — 188 EV
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Egilson/Wright— 258 EV | 47%
Guess/Randolph — 280 EV | 53%
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Introduction of Articles of Impeachment
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"The Gentlewoman from California is recognized."

"Madam Speaker, I call up Joint Resolution 2052."

"The Clerk will report the title of the resolution."

"House Joint Resolution two-zero-five-two, impeaching Maria Junot Martinez, Chief Justice of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors."

There was an audible gasp from some members of the floor — even though they knew it was probably coming. The gallery was packed, and onlookers from there started whispering.

"Without objection, without objection the resolution is referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. The Gentlewoman from California."

"Madam Speaker, I call up Joint Resolution 2053."

"The Clerk will report the title of the resolution."

"House Joint Resolution two-zero-five-three, impeaching Neil McGill Gorsuch, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors."

"Without objection, the resolution is referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. The Gentlewoman from California."

"Madam Speaker, I call up Joint Resolution—"

A man came to the podium opposite Cortez-Luna. "Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker—"

"The— the Gentleman will let the Gentlewoman finish. No, I will not do that. The Gentleman will allow Ms. Cortez-Luna to make her motion. The Gentlewoman from California."

"Madam Speaker, I call up Joint Resolution 2054."

"The Clerk will report the title of the resolution."

"House Joint Resolution two-zero-five-four, impeaching Merrick Brian Garland, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors."

"Without objection— okay. Objection is heard. The Gentleman from Kentucky."

"Madam Speaker, I object to the referral of this motion to the Judiciary Committee — in fact, I would object to all of them, and I will shortly move to see them discharged from that committee — I object, though, because we know how these articles of impeachment will turn out, we know what they are and what they are for. We know what the final vote will be, the final disposition. I would not be surprised if some Democrats decide to vote against this blatantly partisan attempt to corrupt members, to coerce members of our High Court. Madam Speaker, I object, therefore, and I ask that the House proceed under the regular order."

An assistant parliamentarian whispered to the woman in the Speaker's chair, and the clerk handed her a document. She put on her glasses and began to read from it, occasionally peering over at the chamber.

"Pursuant to Clause two of Rule nine, one hour is reserved for the Majority Leader or his or her designee and one hour is reserved for the Minority Leader or his or her designee. The Majority Leader.... Oh, okay. The, uh, Gentleman from, uh, the Gentleman... Right, the Gentleman from Rhode Island. For what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"Madam Speaker, I move to strike the requisite number of letters."

There was an audible sigh from somewhere in the chamber. The woman in the Speaker's chair glared in the general direction of it. "The question is on striking the requisite number of letters. Pursuant to Clause two of Rule nine, on this question, one hour is reserved for the Majority Leader or his or her designee and one hour is reserved for the Minority Leader or his or her designee. The Gentleman from Rhode Island."

As this continued, the doors to the left of the rostrum swung open and Speaker Wu entered the chamber.

"Where the fuck is Isabella?" she said, then spotted the Congresswoman and marched over to her. "I swear to fucking God, Bella, we will drag this out as long as we need to. Withdraw your resolutions now."

From the gallery — and from C-SPAN too, or so a friend tells me — but from the gallery for sure, you could see Speaker and Wu and Cortez-Luna arguing. Meanwhile Feynman, from Rhode Island, kept amending the resolution pro forma — thus adding another two hours to its consideration, over and over again. Cortez-Luna started crying. Wu whispered something to her, then guided her to the podium.

"Madam, Madam Speaker," Cortez-Luna said, holding back tears.

"The Gentlewoman from California, Ms. Cortez-Luna. For what purpose do you seek recognition?"

"I ask unanimous consent that the resolutions be withdrawn."

"Without objection." The chamber was silent for a few seconds. "Okay. So ordered. The Gentleman from Kentucky is recognized."

McConnell grinned as he straddled the podium, getting ready for what would clearly be a lengthy speech. "Well, Madam Speaker, the lame duck Democrats have proven that they are willing to try and do just about anything to hold on to power. They know it's slipping away. They would even impeach Supreme Court Justices just for doing their jobs. Madam Speaker, I have a very hard time seeing how the elite liberal media is going to spin this tomorrow. I can picture the headlines now..."

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Guess campaign attempts to impeach Chief Justice
Ari Baquet | Oct 16, 2052 | The New York Times
House Republicans yesterday shot down articles of impeachment against multiple Supreme Court Justices after allies of the Guess campaign introduced them on the House floor.

Libertarian Rep. Isabella Cortez-Luna (CA-8) introduced articles of impeachment against Chief Justice Maria Martinez and Justices Neil Gorsuch and Merrick Garland, all of whom voted to strike down California's semi-parliamentary constitution, adopted seven years ago. Republicans used an arcane procedural tactic to filibuster the resolutions until Cortez-Luna agreed to withdraw the resolutions.

Sources suggest Cortez-Luna, with the backing of House Democratic Leader Gabe Koons (FL-31) and California Premier and Democratic presidential nominee Theo Guess, sought to impeach all five Justices who voted to strike down provisions of the California constitution, which Guess ushered in as Governor in 2045.

White House visitor logs obtained by the New York Times reveal a visit to the Oval Office by Cortez-Luna, Koons, and Guess two weeks ago. White House Press Secretary Moira Stamper said the President "disagrees with the notion of impeaching judges for partisan reasons... he did his job, advising the Members (of Congress) to not introduce the articles of impeachment."

The news has already sent ripples through Congress. Rep. Koons announced his intention to step down as Democratic Leader, though he insisted Democrats "will take back the House, regardless." Republican House Speaker Joyce Wu (CA-61), who confronted Cortez-Luna on the floor of the House in a dramatic showdown, condemned House Democrats: "this was a poorly-executed partisan move meant to impeach sitting Justices for just doing their job. The Democrat Party's attempts to corrupt our judiciary will not stop here, which is why it is so vital that the American people return a GOP Speaker to the House, and restore Republican leadership in the White House and the Senate."

Democratic Senate Majority Leader Jason Kander (D-MO) distanced his caucus from the House Democrats, calling on the entire leadership to resign after the current session adjourns. Kander, who faces a tough reelection challenge in his home state of Missouri, leads a tied Senate majority with the help of the Vice President. Senate Democrats are struggling to exit 2052 with control of the Senate, defending 22 seats: eight in red states, and another six in swing states.

Chief Justice Martinez could not be reached for inquiries. The Guess campaign did not immediately respond to our request for comment.

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Theo Guess, Victoria Randolph, Sylvia Park, Mohamed Mohamed, and Eric Santiago all stood in the same room. Sylvia and Mohamed were looking through various news articles, thinking about what the campaigns next move should be. Theo was passing around the room, thinking very angrily, Victoria looked on to the television screen, watching a breaking new's segment on the five of them have dubbed Cali-gate. And Eric was sitting on a couch, with his computer in his laptop, going over the numbers, trying to use math to see how this could affect the polls.

Sylvia, shaking her head in a somewhat approving manner ran over to the other side of the room and grabbed the rolling whiteboard and began writing a web on it.

"Theo!" She yelled out to get his attention, "In your oath of office, you promised to protect the Constitution of California and the Constitution of the US, right?" She asked.

"I, Theodore Courtney Guess, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California, that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter." Half-mumbled Theo, reciting his oath.

"Ok," she said as she began writing on the board, "You where acting to protect both this state's constitution and the nation's."

"Strange how the House Republicans were so eager to end it after two conservative justices got their resolutions, yet they are not so eager to talk about Garland and Flint being among them." Added in Victoria, still watching the TV with precision.

"They were the only ones acting in any kind of partisan fever!" Said an excited Sylvia, writing faster on the board, "Wait! What was the President's response?"

"He's lying," Said Guess, "At the end of the meeting he showed support for it, although he said he wouldn't publically show it unless it looked like it was going to pass in the house."

"So, he's trying to distance himself from it. And because he's trying about it, as far as Fischer's own volition goes, he shouldn't be recording conversations in the White House. If the public were to find out he supported this, it could destroy the man's image. And without recordings or one of you guys to come out and tell the world what the conversation was, the public will never truly know." Said Mohamed still going over the articles.

Sylvia continued to make her web on the board when Eric spoke out, "Should we issue a statement?" He asked. For a second the room went quiet, all five of them seemed to form opinions on it and Sylvia was just the first one to get her's to come out of her mouth.

"No. At most, we could only get that to our supporters and the news agencies. First law of Crisis Management, always kept control over the narrative. If we're going to issue a statement of any kind, we should unveil it during the Town Hall. Pure works from Theo's mouth, something the media can't take apart and manage for their own good." Dropping her whiteboard marker to the floor, she unveiled her web.

"We still need to figure out how to distance Theo from this, or if we even can, but, this is what I have so far. We'll need to tell the people of Luther v Borden, and the vote for the Semi-Parliament. Theo was acting to protect his state, he was acting to protect the nation. The Republicans are the villains here, they were acting in a manner that only serves their politics. Why did they fight so vigorously against something they thought was going to die in the Judiciary? Why didn't they let our government take it's course and let the resolutions die naturally? Becuase they knew those Justices broke the law, but if those Justices, namely the conservative ones, get removed from the court, they won't control the Supreme Court anymore. We need to take this, and turn it to our favor!"

Theo looked at the plan, he liked it but he just wasn't all that sure on how well it would work, or how they still work with it and distance himself with the impeachment or just what could be the effect of radio silence on the issue for a week.

"Eric, what do you think?" Asked Theo.

Looking up from his laptop, "I think we should get an outside opinion on this, especially on how to get some distance for all of this. Sylvia, you have any contacts who could help us with this?"

Tapping her chin a few times and then moving to hide the whiteboard, "Ya, I can think of a few people I've worked with before, just get your Campaign Attorney in here with a basic agreement quick."

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Postby Vienna Eliot » Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:12 pm

By the moment the car came to a stop, Darren had already swung the door open and was leaping out of it. Crisp suit, expensive watch, nice buzz cut — picture perfect political consultant. His intern — Josh? or, James? or, something like that — followed closely behind, juggling a briefcase and several manilla folders.

"Can you get the door?" Darren said. He grabbed the briefcase from the intern and whipped out his phone. Outside now, coming up, he texted. He passed through the door and straight to the elevator. The intern shuffled to the front desk to sign them in.

"The problem is," he said to the five of them, all sitting at a small table, "that people are going to associate this with you." He pointed a pen at Theo. "Nobody cares, you know, about what happened at all. And once you're explaining, you lose. You need to know when to shut up. I think it would be a mistake to try and take control of that whole news story — when it comes down to it..." He paused, grimacing, then looked up. "Okay, let me explain."

"Your supporters are going to support you no matter what. And your opponents, they're always going to hate you. I'm not saying this story doesn't matter. But I am saying that elections are won at the margins. You can't be trying to convince anyone who's already made up their mind. You need to be concerned, pretty much, almost exclusively right now with the people who can go either way, who are undecided on the whole thing."

He looked up at the TV screen, and gestured toward it. "Look at this. Everybody look at this," he said. Chris Cooper was on camera, with the headline below a bold: CRISIS IN EUROPE? DAIRY PRICES SKYROCKET.

"I mean, who cares?" Darren said, almost laughing. "But do you see what I mean? The 24 hour news cycle, it goes so fast, people are going to forget about this in two days. Its shelf life is half-expired. You don't want to breathe new life into this thing. Just let it be."

"The problem," Maddie said to the group, "is that this is going to spiral out of control. I've been in political consulting for 35 years. Do you know what I've learned? First and foremost, it's that you never stop talking. You never stop producing content. Your opponent won't — you know what's going to happen if you decide to?"

She looked up at the TV screen. "Look, look at that," she said. DNC Chair Ensley was on a talk show with some other talking heads, making a case for why Guess wasn't necessarily involved. "This is going to be on the news, and you need to control it. If you don't say something — anything — the Republicans and the media are going to have a field day — no a field week, and the whole thing will blow up. Don't let this be. Get on it, now. Deny everything. Say you got pulled into it, didn't ever want to do it, had no idea what you were even meeting with POTUS about. Get Fischer to back up your story. Do whatever it takes. This is the win-or-lose moment. You've got to do something soon."
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Postby New Cobastheia » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:50 pm

Sacramento, CA
Guess/Randolph 2052 Headquarters
October 16, 2052


By the end of the day, the five of them had concluded with what they must do. This wasn't going to be something that just disappeared, not this close to the election.

Guess wasn't told about the impeachment proceedings before the meeting.

A member of his state's delegation to Congress and the House Democratic Leader simply told Guess that it was a matter of utmost importance to his state and that Guess thought it would be inappropriate for the Head of States to not meet when an issue of the utmost importance to California was on the line.

When Cortez-Luna and Koons brought up impeachment, he thought they were crazy. Did he disagree with the Supreme Court's ruling? Yes. Did he think that impeachment was the right way to go? No.

Just like Fischer, Guess advised them not to go through with it.

However, if Guess needs to, he will be attacking the Republicans for this. Why the hell did McConnell not let this go through the natural course of things, even if he knew it would never pass the House? Did he know Cortez-Luna was right? Did he pull a desperate move to keep his party in control of the Supreme Court? Why did he attack the Liberals, even thought Cortez-Luna, looking at the pattern, was trying to impeach two liberal justices as well? Of course, all this was just backup fuel for the fire. Only to be used if he absolutely needed.

This, the five of them concluded, was the best they could do. Koons as already given up on power, it might even help Cortez-Luna in her reelection, seeing as in the 8th district, the Constitution had one of the highest support rankings for a rural district, she could make the story about how she was protecting it. For once, Guess had made a plan that, hopefully, won't betray anyone. It won't try and take anyone for granted.

Sylvia had already gotten into contact with the President's people, they would pass on the message. Guess told her not to include it, but Guess knew the President could bring him down just as easily as Guess could bring him down. Guess assumed the President would figure that out on his own. The two now had MAD to stop them from killing each other.

She also contacted Rep. Koons's people. While he regrets that these events have lead to him losing his position, he did say that he'll go with this story if it means a Democrat ends up in the White House by the end of the year.

Finally, Sylvia had told the Press that Guess was going to issue a statement tonight, that they should gather in the auditorium of the headquarters, Guess would issue his statement and take questions at 8 PM sharp.
The reporters and cameras filled the room. Center stage was a podium with the Guess/Randolph 2052 campaign logo on it, the lights were focused on it and Guess walked up to it from stage left. The cameras started clicking as Guess walked.

"With the news of Rep. Cortez-Luna's failed impeachment of several of the Supreme Court Justices last night. Several people have connected me to the effort. I'm here to tell the truth.
I did meet President Fischer with Rep. Cortez-Luna and Leader Koons, however, they did not, truthfully, tell me the nature of the meeting beforehand. Rep. Cortez-Luna, being a member of my state's delegation to Congress told me that the issue was of the utmost importance to California and Rep. Koons urged me to come to the meeting. Ultimately, I thought it would be inappropriate for anyone to talk about an issue of utmost importance to my state with the President without me being present.
However, once the meeting started, Cortez-Luna and Koons talked of impeachment. President Fischer and I both told them not to do that. I may disagree with the Supreme Court's ruling in Daniels vs California, but impeachment is not how to fix a wrong decision.
Now, if they wanted to pass a Constitutional Amendment that said that Congress as the ultimate authority in deciding what a Republican Form of Government, I would've supported them through and through.
Any Questions?"

"Premier Guess, both Speaker Wu and House Majority Leader McConnell have said this is was a liberal act to take control of the Supreme Court. How do you respond?"

"Well, first, I would like to thank Speaker Wu and Representative McConnell for thinking I'll win in November," Theo paused as most of the reporters shared a laugh, "Even if all the judges were impeached and removed, either Egilson or I would be President by then. And if it was Egilson and if we follow the pattern Rep. Cortez-Luna was going in, the Republicans would've gotten two free spots on the Court, reinsuring they could've held the majority for another generation. Make's you wonder for a second why they fought so hard against something they thought would die in committee anyway, just saying." Theo said the last sentence very jokingly, making sure it couldn't possibly be perceived as serious after hearing it, while still putting the thought in people's head. Due to the way Theo said it, most of the reporters laughed again, seeing as he delivered on his joke. While, at the same time, very subtly, brought up the idea that for the Republicans to have opposed this they would have to laked the faith in Egilson to win.

"Next question?"

"Premier Guess, you say Rep. Cortez-Luna told you the issue was concerning California. What was the issue?"

"A Constitutional Amendment that said Congress has the final say on what a Republican Form of Government is, and by approving a state constitution Congress would be saying it has a Republican Form of Government. That's why I brought it up. If that was what the meeting was actually about I would've fully supported it, but sadly that wasn't what the meeting was about." Theo also did this in hopes that it could possibly launch an independent campaign of the people for an amendment like this.

This continued for about half an hour, until Theo closed the questioning time, saying that's all the time we had and that hopefully his statement and this press conference have cleared up any questions.

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Postby Zjaum » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:33 pm

Excerpt from Vlog

"Good morning! Tere hommikust, as they say in Eesti! I plan on returning home tomorrow and giving a speech in Phoenix. If you guys are interested, I believe tickets are sold out, but I'll see what I can do. I wanted to get this out quickly, since I'm sure that everyone is going wild as to what my reaction is to Guess's most recent scandal.

"As I mentioned before, I think that the Supreme Court ruling was not a great one, and perhaps an infringement on state's rights. I've disagreed with Guess on this issue forever and a day, but just because it's a bad idea does not mean it's an unconstitutional idea. I find Representative Cortez-Luna's attempt at impeachment hilarious, quite honestly." Pause for thought. "It's as if each side was trying to get the trump card over the other's decision. It will not work, and it's a dangerous route to undergo.

"My respect for the Premier has increased since he gave this statement. I disagree with everything he says and think he's reasonably dangerous to the state of the country, but he is at least noble in character. I can respect that. But again, I want to win on the issues, not on the ethos. That's the way we make this a long-lasting victory. Anyway, that's my two cents. Let me give you a little glimpse of what I have planned for the Estonians tonight!"


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Excerpt from Estonia speech

((OOC: Please forgive me on this one. Estonian is a Finno-Ugric language and is as such practically unrelated to English. Google Translate is going nuts as I process this speech and try to make it understandable to both sides. Regardless, enjoy.))

"Mulle tundub, et Eesti on väga oluline rahvas. Enne I maailmasõda ei olnud Eestil suveräänset ajalugu, see oli esimene, kes lahkus Nõukogude Liidust ja üks väheseid, kes säilitasid NATO lepingud. Teie arvutitehnoloogia on ületamatu."

["It seems to me that Estonia is a very important nation. Before the First World War, Estonia had no sovereign history, it was the first to leave the Soviet Union and one of the few who maintained NATO treaties. Your computer technology is unrivaled."]

"Te olete teinud oma rahva ja kultuuri nullist. Teie pühendumus vabadusele on toonud kaasa teie riigi võidu. Soovin teile rõõmu ja jõukust!"

["You have made your people and culture from scratch. Your dedication to freedom has led to the victory of your country. I wish you joy and prosperity!"]


Excerpt from speech at Phoenix, Arizona

"Hello, everyone! It is good to be back in the States! I brought back some presents! There's a Polish candy called Prince Polo. They're cream wafers, and I figured you'd all enjoy some!...

"I did not go there to vacation. I strongly believe, as Wright believes, that a strong connection with the world, especially with our allies, is necessary. The United States is the best country in the history of the world, not because of its immense power or technological might, but because, out of all the earth's empires, ours has used its mighty power for good! We've left nations alone that most empires would have gobbled up long ago. We've invited the poor and the disenfranchised, gave them food and shelter, and brought them along in this great, three-century experiment! I believe that we have an obligation to succeed, for all the great powers after us will never be as kind or as beautiful as our grand United States!"
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I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

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Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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Postby Vienna Eliot » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:20 pm

Final Presidential Debate, 2052
CNN Headquarters | Washington, DC

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"With that," Jones said as she opened up her arms and walked toward the camera, "let's welcome our candidates. The Democratic nominee, Premier Theo Guess from California, and the Republican nominee, United States Representative Benjamin Egilson from California."

The candidates entered the room, smiling, waving at the small crowd surrounding the circular stage. This was in many ways the culmination of everything the nation had been waiting for — a high stakes debate between two candidates in a dead heat, vying for an office their parties had both been locked out of for eight long years. Reform Party candidate Jim Diaz had a small crowd outside the studio protesting.

"The nation has waited years for this moment, and we're finally here. The final presidential debate for the 2052 election cycle. This debate will feature a town hall-style format, in which our participating audience members — all Americans from around the country — will ask questions of the candidates that are near, and dear, to the struggles Americans face every single day."

Jones took a sip of water as she took her seat at her table. She eyed both candidates standing at their podiums as she spoke. "With that, let's start off with opening statements, in the form of a question about current events. Today's polls from CNN show a daunting prospect for you, Premier Guess, and a race that can now foreseeably swing either way. The Democrats have gone from a four-point lead in the national vote to trailing by a little more than one percentage point. And the generic Congressional ballot is showing bad signs for Democrats looking to take control of Congress. With this sudden change in the playing field, what are your, the candidates', thoughts? After this, we'll move into questions from the audience."
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