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Cassinopa
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Postby Cassinopa » Sat May 05, 2018 10:00 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Nieblham wrote:seems good to me just finish up the other parts and work with other players on history

Do you want me to make a map for the Carolingian Empire? It's basically going to be the same as the HRE size wise. Unless you wish to have it be other wise.
Cainesland wrote:

It's a real shame we won't have a Byzantium. I'd love for there to be three rulers who consider themselves to be "Emperor of the Romans"

Ottomans are the one true Rome

Islamic rome > other, worse romes

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The Valyria Empire
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Sat May 05, 2018 10:00 pm

Nieblham wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Do you want me to make a map for the Carolingian Empire? It's basically going to be the same as the HRE size wise. Unless you wish to have it be other wise.

It's a real shame we won't have a Byzantium. I'd love for there to be three rulers who consider themselves to be "Emperor of the Romans"

No, not yet. Players could app in other portions of your Car. Empire and might not want to be apart of it.

Understandable. That’s what I figured. Oh god the border gore of the Car Empire is going to be a mess.

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The Valyria Empire
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Sat May 05, 2018 10:00 pm

Nieblham wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Do you want me to make a map for the Carolingian Empire? It's basically going to be the same as the HRE size wise. Unless you wish to have it be other wise.

It's a real shame we won't have a Byzantium. I'd love for there to be three rulers who consider themselves to be "Emperor of the Romans"

No, not yet. Players could app in other portions of your Car. Empire and might not want to be apart of it.

Understandable. That’s what I figured. Oh god the border gore of the Car Empire is going to be a mess.

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Democratic East-Asia
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sat May 05, 2018 10:00 pm

Cassinopa wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Do you want me to make a map for the Carolingian Empire? It's basically going to be the same as the HRE size wise. Unless you wish to have it be other wise.

It's a real shame we won't have a Byzantium. I'd love for there to be three rulers who consider themselves to be "Emperor of the Romans"

Ottomans are the one true Rome

Islamic rome > other, worse romes

Middle Kingdom > western "empires"
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Cainesland
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Cainesland » Sat May 05, 2018 10:03 pm

Nieblham wrote:
Cainesland wrote:HERESY


EXTERMINATUS

i have no bloody clue what the hell you are talking about. You are completely ignoring what i've been telling you. If you are a mobile user i highly suggest, should you continue, to get a computer. If you don't you are being removed from the RP until you tone your claims down A HELL OF LOT MORE AND LEARN HOW THE MAP WORKS.


I have the map open. But I can’t post it. It seems you are using imgur but I don’t have that. I have it set to 50 like you asked. I am not trying to be disagreeable. If that is how it comes across, I apologize. That is not the intent.

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Danceria
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Postby Danceria » Sat May 05, 2018 10:04 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Cassinopa wrote:Ottomans are the one true Rome

Islamic rome > other, worse romes

Middle Kingdom > western "empires"

...you good person just gave me an excellent idea...
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Ismeil
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Postby Ismeil » Sat May 05, 2018 10:06 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Cassinopa wrote:Ottomans are the one true Rome

Islamic rome > other, worse romes

Middle Kingdom > western "empires"


Abbasids > China
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Nieblham
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Founded: Apr 08, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Nieblham » Sat May 05, 2018 10:07 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Nieblham wrote:i honestly have no idea what map you are looking at.
italy alone is 24 provinces
(Image)
based on what you said this is the best i can get you at 50 claims


If there was a discord, I could take a picture and post it.

However, for North Africa. The east coast is 2 tall. Both coastal in the north east. After that there are four to the left, restricted to the coast.

Spain. Remove the inland provinces. Add one to the coast on the bottom.

France: Remove the inland provinces. With the exception of the round one. Add 2 to the coast near the top, to the right of the existing one. I think the long one belongs to green.

Italy. Add one to the top right. Add 2 above the long green province. Add 2 to the right of those.

i'm not understanding what you are wanting and i've tried my best you are going to need to color it somehow if you want to continue. There is no discord unless you want to join my regional one which you have to be a member of CAS to join iirc.

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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Sat May 05, 2018 10:09 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Nieblham wrote:
EXTERMINATUS

i have no bloody clue what the hell you are talking about. You are completely ignoring what i've been telling you. If you are a mobile user i highly suggest, should you continue, to get a computer. If you don't you are being removed from the RP until you tone your claims down A HELL OF LOT MORE AND LEARN HOW THE MAP WORKS.


I have the map open. But I can’t post it. It seems you are using imgur but I don’t have that. I have it set to 50 like you asked. I am not trying to be disagreeable. If that is how it comes across, I apologize. That is not the intent.

if you can find some way to post that map either with imgur or some other img sharing site i'll give you the benefit of the doubt but i can no longer change things around for you.

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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Sat May 05, 2018 10:15 pm

FYI CASSINOPIA IS A MOD
forgot to mention that.
he'll be in charge of maintaining the Map once the IC starts.

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Cassinopa
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Postby Cassinopa » Sat May 05, 2018 10:17 pm

Cainesland wrote:
Nieblham wrote:i honestly have no idea what map you are looking at.
italy alone is 24 provinces
(Image)
based on what you said this is the best i can get you at 50 claims


If there was a discord, I could take a picture and post it.

However, for North Africa. The east coast is 2 tall. Both coastal in the north east. After that there are four to the left, restricted to the coast.

Spain. Remove the inland provinces. Add one to the coast on the bottom.

France: Remove the inland provinces. With the exception of the round one. Add 2 to the coast near the top, to the right of the existing one. I think the long one belongs to green.

Italy. Add one to the top right. Add 2 above the long green province. Add 2 to the right of those.

This is about as close to that as I could get, from what I think you're asking for? this is exactly at the 50 province limit, and surrounding Green isn't allowed(both of you should have a chance to expand in that area, but I did move those couple provinces to other spots you wanted.)
Image
Does that look alright?
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Cainesland
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Postby Cainesland » Sat May 05, 2018 10:26 pm

If it helps. I have just created an Imgur account, and posted a picture of the dimensions.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4jUd5qa

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Cassinopa
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Postby Cassinopa » Sat May 05, 2018 10:35 pm

Cainesland wrote:If it helps. I have just created an Imgur account, and posted a picture of the dimensions.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4jUd5qa

that's pretty close to good, but surrounding Green's capitol right at the start is a bit much, I moved a couple provinces, and if this is good with you, it'll be approved. :)

Image

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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Sat May 05, 2018 11:02 pm

Cassinopa wrote:
Cainesland wrote:If it helps. I have just created an Imgur account, and posted a picture of the dimensions.

https://imgur.com/gallery/4jUd5qa

that's pretty close to good, but surrounding Green's capitol right at the start is a bit much, I moved a couple provinces, and if this is good with you, it'll be approved. :)

Image

he can surround him if he wants to. Vahn took that risk by playing a nation like Genoa.
either way Caine those are both good. either one you want and you'll basically be approved just move over your history.
sorry this has been hard on you.

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Dragos Bee
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Dragos Bee » Sat May 05, 2018 11:19 pm

Judging from the discussion, there is no room for Byzies?
Sorry for my behavior, P2TM.

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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Sat May 05, 2018 11:24 pm

Dragos Bee wrote:Judging from the discussion, there is no room for Byzies?

Byzantines?
no Cass claimed Turkey as Ottomans but much of Eastern Europe is still open so you can play as a Byzantine that was forced into Hungary and Serbia.

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Dragos Bee
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Postby Dragos Bee » Sun May 06, 2018 12:54 am

Nieblham wrote:
Dragos Bee wrote:Judging from the discussion, there is no room for Byzies?

Byzantines?
no Cass claimed Turkey as Ottomans but much of Eastern Europe is still open so you can play as a Byzantine that was forced into Hungary and Serbia.


Ah; nevermind, then. I believe that idea would be unrealistic, if I am permitted to say that.
Sorry for my behavior, P2TM.

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The V O I D
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Postby The V O I D » Sun May 06, 2018 4:22 am

Is Japan accepted btw? I finished editing the app. I can repost it if needed.

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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sun May 06, 2018 4:28 am

tag
Call me Warg or Antic
Yeah, u do that and I’m gonna have to force u to pull a France, and then a Vichy-Wargloria, after one of his allies proposed pulling an Italy

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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Sun May 06, 2018 8:09 am

The V O I D wrote:Is Japan accepted btw? I finished editing the app. I can repost it if needed.

Japan is accepted

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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Sun May 06, 2018 9:08 am

The V O I D wrote:Is Japan accepted btw? I finished editing the app. I can repost it if needed.

Though if you could add dates, at least the year, to certain events it would make things much easier

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Ismeil
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ismeil » Sun May 06, 2018 10:30 am

RP Application

NationStates Name: The Enlightened Caliphate of Ismeil
IC Nation Name: The Kingdom of Norway
Ruler: Hjalmar III Magnusson
Flag:
Image

Government Type
Norway is a Feudal Monarchy, as in the King rules several fiefdoms own by nobles who inherit their thrones through their direct descendants. All nobles swear their fealty to the King of Norway and his Royal family.

Capitol City: Akershus (Modern Day, Oslo)
Other cities: Stavanger, Trondheim, Bergen, Narvik, Borg (Sarpsborg), Reykjavik, Narvik and Tromsø
Population: 475,000 People (305,000 in Norway, 70,000 in Iceland and the Isles and 50,000 in Vinland and Greenland)
Military:
The Army has 35,000 Soldiers of the King's Retinue, 10,500 from Vassal Levies and 2,000 Royal Guardsmen. (47,500 total)
The Navy has 500 ships at it's disposal, with 75 Carracks, 200 Cogs, 75 Hulks aswell as 150 Skeid Longships in Older territories/Far away settlements

History:

Ca. 1000 CE
-Leif Eriksson and his party land on the land they call Vinland. Founding a temporary settlement called Straumfjordr
-In spire of considerable amount of pressure, Thorfinn Karlsefni convinces Leif Eriksson in staying in the settlement creating a permanent settlement in a land that would be known as Markland.
-Helgi and Finnbogi leave the settlement to spread the news.
-The Great pastures and farmland make for productive agriculture and herding, increasing the size of the small fortresses on the Markland Coast, effectively becoming a breadbasket for Greenlandish and Icelandic settlers.
-A merchant chain is created between the Northern territories, profitably increased by the productivity and thus making the risk worth the profit
-Norwegian King, Harald Hadrada is defeated at the battle of Stamford Bridge, but not killed. The Norwegian Army ends the war.
-The Kingdom of the Isles is officially integrated into the Kingdom of Norway
-Norwegian ambitions on the British isles are satiated for now
-Icelandic settlers begin trade with Norway effectively once again
-Large amounts of Grain and other food products attract interests of Olaf III Haraldsson
-Vinland is officially recognized as a crown territory of Norway, permanent settlements are encouraged aswell as military expeditions
-Native Inuits are expunged from Markland formenting a peaceful breadbasket for Norway

Ca. 1100 CE
-Norway suffers a population boom
- The Norwegian Renaissance effectively stunts foreing influence in Norway
-Sigurd I Magnusson leads the Norwegian Crusade earning him the epithet Jorsalfar (Crusader)
-Magnus IV Sigurdsson, survives the civil war, leading to the defeat of Harald IV of Gille. Establishing the Hadrada Dynasty as dominant.
-Norway is left strong but isolated in the North for many centuries

Ca. 1300 CE
-The Icelandic trade routes and Marklandish Breadbasket are kept secret from outsiders.
-Rumours of Markland are heard throughout the North Sea but dismissed as local legends.
-The Icelandic Trade strenghtens the Norwegian throne, creating a domineering force loyal to the King over his Vassals..
-Norway is acquires land in the Sapmi lands
-Ports in Gulf of Bothnia allow for Norwegian trade in the Baltic supplementing the Empire's growth
-The conflicts with Sweden and Novgorod forces the Empire to turn away from it's american ambitions, leaving Vinland isolated and crumbling the Icelandic trade route.
-For the next 100 years Norway would go unaware of it's Viking colony

1492 CE
-Norwegian explorers sally forth from Iceland to uncover the vast territory it has for a century neglected, Vinland. A new rush for these Lands once again begins

Claim:
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Extra info (optional):

I'll be using Icelandic for many names of place. Almost as a way of representing the Close ties between Iceland and Norway better and thus continue the Viking Tradition into the Early Modern Era.
The Norwegian Ultramarine Empire is at it's infancy, and is the primogenitor to European ultramarine expansion.
The the farthest of them hold a Syncretic Norse-Christian religion tightly, it's common to find people speaking of Odin as the Christian God and Thor as Jesus of Nazareth. Aswell as Hel as Lucifer.
The Isles are an important section of the Icelandic trading route, if not for that, Markland would have been forgotten for centuries
For Most of High Medieval history, While Vinland was nominally a crown land of the King, it was very autonomous, owing to it's distance from Akershus, effective Capital of the Kingdom.

Summary of one Rule: Point of Divergence is 500 CE, and I will have to work out history with my fellow players
Last edited by Ismeil on Sun May 06, 2018 12:44 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Nieblham
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Nieblham » Sun May 06, 2018 10:57 am

Ismeil wrote:
RP Application

NationStates Name: The Enlightened Caliphate of Ismeil
IC Nation Name: The Kingdom of Norway
Ruler: Hjalmar III Magnusson
Flag:
Government Type
Norway is a Feudal Monarchy, as in the King rules several fiefdoms own by nobles who inherit their thrones through their direct descendants. All nobles swear their fealty to the King of Norway and his Royal family.

Capitol City: Akershus (Modern Day, Oslo)
Other cities: Stavanger, Trondheim, Bergen, Narvik, Borg (Sarpsborg), Reykjavik, Narvik and Tromsø
Population: 600,000 People (450,000 in Norway, 100,000 in Iceland and the Isles and 50,000 in VInland and Greenland)
Military:
The Army has 50,000 Soldiers of the King's Retinue, 8,000 from Vassal Levies and 2,000 Royal Guardsmen. (60,000 total)
The Navy has 700 ships at it's disposal, with 150 Carracks, 300 Cogs, 100 Hulks aswell as 150 Skeid Longships in Older territories/Far away settlements

History:

Ca. 1000 CE
-Leif Eriksson and his party land on the land they call Vinland. Founding a temporary settlement called Straumfjordr
-In spire of considerable amount of pressure, Thorfinn Karlsefni convinces Leif Eriksson in staying in the settlement creating a permanent settlement in a land that would be known as Markland.
-Helgi and Finnbogi leave the settlement to spread the news.
-The Great pastures and farmland make for productive agriculture and herding, increasing the size of the small fortresses on the Markland Coast, effectively becoming a breadbasket for Greenlandish and Icelandic settlers.
-A merchant chain is created between the Northern territories, profitably increased by the productivity and thus making the risk worth the profit
-Norwegian King, Harald Hadrada is defeated at the battle of Stamford Bridge, but not killed. The Norwegian Army ends the war.
-The Kingdom of the Isles is officially integrated into the Kingdom of Norway
-Norwegian ambitions on the British isles are satiated for now
-Icelandic settlers begin trade with Norway effectively once again
-Large amounts of Grain and other food products attract interests of Olaf III Haraldsson
-Vinland is officially recognized as a crown territory of Norway, permanent settlements are encouraged aswell as military expeditions
-Native Inuits are expunged from Markland formenting a peaceful breadbasket for Norway

Ca. 1100 CE
-Norway suffers a population boom
- The Norwegian Renaissance effectively stunts foreing influence in Norway
-Sigurd I Magnusson leads the Norwegian Crusade earning him the epithet Jorsalfar (Crusader)
-Magnus IV Sigurdsson, survives the civil war, leading to the defeat of Harald IV of Gille. Establishing the Hadrada Dynasty as dominant.
-Norway is left strong but isolated in the North for many centuries

Ca. 1400 CE
-The Icelandic trade routes and Marklandish Breadbasket are kept secret from outsiders.
-Norwegian lands on mainland Britain are abandoned, Norway desperately hold on to the Isles.
-Rumours of Markland are heard throughout the North Sea but dismissed as local legends.
-The Icelandic Trade strenghtens the Norwegian throne, creating a domineering force loyal to the King over his Vassals..
-Norway is acquires land in the Sapmi lands
-Ports in Gulf of Bothnia allow for Norwegian trade in the Baltic supplementing the Empire's growth
-New Renaissance technology modernizes the Icelandic trade routes, establishing permamnent contact between Markland and Norway.

1492 CE
-Norwegian explorers sally forth from Markland to uncover the vast territory it has for centuries neglected. A new rush for these Lands once again begin

Claim:

Extra info (optional):

I'll be using Icelandic for many names of place. Almost as a way of representing the Close ties between Iceland and Norway better and thus continue the Viking Tradition into the Early Modern Era.
The Norwegian Ultramarine Empire is at it's infancy, and is the primogenitor to European ultramarine expansion.
The Oldest territories and the farthets of them hold a Syncretic Norse-Christian religion tightly, it's common to find people speaking of Odin as the Christian God and Thor as Jesus of Nazareth. Aswell as Hel as Lucifer.
The Isles are an important section of the Icelandic trading route, if not for that, Markland would have been forgotten for centuries
For Most of High Medieval history, While Vinland was nominally a crown land of the King, it was very autonomous, owing to it's distance from Akershus, effective Capital of the Kingdom.

Summary of one Rule: Point of Divergence is 500 CE, and I will have to work out history with my fellow players

Can you edit the history so that the colony was somewhat forgotten?
the established story is that the New World was just recently discovered within the last 5 years.
Maybe they establish the outpost but it dies out and not until the 1490s does Norway consider attempting it again.

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The V O I D
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The V O I D » Sun May 06, 2018 11:40 am

Nieblham wrote:
The V O I D wrote:Is Japan accepted btw? I finished editing the app. I can repost it if needed.

Though if you could add dates, at least the year, to certain events it would make things much easier


I'll try to make a dated timeline and put it on the post under the history or something; maybe TG it to you.

Thanks for accepting me, though.

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Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
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Founded: May 07, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Corneliu Zelea Codreanu » Sun May 06, 2018 11:57 am

Anybody close to Rus want to have decent relations with me?
I'm a Fascist influenced by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, read For My Legionaries

The first and fiercest punishment ought to fall first on the traitor, second on the enemy. If I had but one bullet and I were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it. -Corneliu Zelea Codreanu

Fascism means first of all defending your nation against the dangers that threaten it. It means the destruction of these dangers and the opening of a free way to life and glory for your nation. -Corneliu Zelea Codreanu

Legionary life is beautiful, not because of riches, partying or the acquisition of luxury, but because of the noble comradeship which binds all Legionaries in a sacred brotherhood of struggle. -Corneliu Zelea Codreanu

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