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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:30 pm

Duestchstien wrote:
Duestchstien wrote:APP:
Snip

Cut Army down to 750,000
Cut cannons down to 40,000
Cut Navy down to 150,000
Cut total ships down to 1250 total (as far as I could tell in my research Japan in 1597 had ~1000 if you have other research please present it)

I also caught something in your history
It wouldn't be until 1432 that the next conflict happened. They Wei challenged Song rule and a war broke out,
You will need to confirm this with The Dragon Empire that replaced Wei controlled by La Federacion Venezolana

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La Federacion Venezolana
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Postby La Federacion Venezolana » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:34 pm

Nieblham wrote:
Duestchstien wrote:

Cut Army down to 750,000
Cut cannons down to 40,000
Cut Navy down to 150,000
Cut total ships down to 1250 total (as far as I could tell in my research Japan in 1597 had ~1000 if you have other research please present it)

I also caught something in your history
It wouldn't be until 1432 that the next conflict happened. They Wei challenged Song rule and a war broke out,
You will need to confirm this with The Dragon Empire that replaced Wei controlled by La Federacion Venezolana


Motherfu—- JUST HAD TO RUIN MY CHINESE EMPIRE DIDN’T YA!
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Edit: Hey, since my southern neighbor apparently has artillery and guns while my nation, one that has been working for knowledge for the last while doesn’t have guns. Can I have similar tech considering how much I pump into the scholars?
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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:57 pm

La Federacion Venezolana wrote:
Nieblham wrote:Cut Army down to 750,000
Cut cannons down to 40,000
Cut Navy down to 150,000
Cut total ships down to 1250 total (as far as I could tell in my research Japan in 1597 had ~1000 if you have other research please present it)

I also caught something in your history
It wouldn't be until 1432 that the next conflict happened. They Wei challenged Song rule and a war broke out,
You will need to confirm this with The Dragon Empire that replaced Wei controlled by La Federacion Venezolana


Motherfu—- JUST HAD TO RUIN MY CHINESE EMPIRE DIDN’T YA!
Jk

Edit: Hey, since my southern neighbor apparently has artillery and guns while my nation, one that has been working for knowledge for the last while doesn’t have guns. Can I have similar tech considering how much I pump into the scholars?

ideally Asia would have access to very basic/weak firearms and cannons. I'm not 100% sure but they should have some sort of firearms but not very good. I'm not opposed to a nation making them their main weapons but they of course would come with downsides (i.e. costs, transportation, ammo, and more) if they are in a war. So it's a balancing act of heavy power with heavy costs. To answer your question you can IC build up that portion of your military.

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Duestchstien
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Postby Duestchstien » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:41 am

Nieblham wrote:
Duestchstien wrote:

Cut Army down to 750,000
Cut cannons down to 40,000
Cut Navy down to 150,000
Cut total ships down to 1250 total (as far as I could tell in my research Japan in 1597 had ~1000 if you have other research please present it)

I also caught something in your history
It wouldn't be until 1432 that the next conflict happened. They Wei challenged Song rule and a war broke out,
You will need to confirm this with The Dragon Empire that replaced Wei controlled by La Federacion Venezolana

My research said the Ming had a Military the size of the current us army by 1400
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Chancellor - Alexei Matrovitch
Vice Chancellor - Dmitri Zdunowo
Capital - Moscow
Population - 404.2 Million
Currency - Roys Ruble (₽)
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2024: Age of Superpowers - Nigeria



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Postby Maori Empire » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:54 am

Nieblham wrote:
Maori Empire wrote:APP:
Snip

https://i.imgur.com/D0FoQwI.png
Is this what you were hoping for in your claims?
Also do note that you will be very alone in that part of the world. Davarti did become an NPC for failing to meet the 1 post every 3 week requirement. I can of course create events for you so you won't be without things to do and you are free to interact with NPCs.

Yes, those islands I would like to claim, with the events happening so noone is bored.
Imagine an alternate timeline where the Polynesians that made itself at home in New Zealand created an empire that lasted for many centuries before, after their last (current) leader killed herself, faded into history.
-The new religion of Bokononism spawns in Micronesia and Kiribati. 
-Maori army orders 2,000 of the newfangled 'crossbows' from China.
-Upcoming Aborigines v. Papuans gladiator tournament event is live in Aotearoa.
-Fish flock into Pacific region at ever-growing rate; local Maori fishermen in awe

Current year: 563 B.C.

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Postby Nieblham » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:43 pm

Duestchstien wrote:
Nieblham wrote:Cut Army down to 750,000
Cut cannons down to 40,000
Cut Navy down to 150,000
Cut total ships down to 1250 total (as far as I could tell in my research Japan in 1597 had ~1000 if you have other research please present it)

I also caught something in your history
It wouldn't be until 1432 that the next conflict happened. They Wei challenged Song rule and a war broke out,
You will need to confirm this with The Dragon Empire that replaced Wei controlled by La Federacion Venezolana

My research said the Ming had a Military the size of the current us army by 1400

A.) link?
B.) you are not the Ming, if you controlled all of Ming China than I would allow it but you don’t so you should have a smaller military.

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Postby Duestchstien » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:57 pm

Nieblham wrote:
Duestchstien wrote:My research said the Ming had a Military the size of the current us army by 1400

A.) link?
B.) you are not the Ming, if you controlled all of Ming China than I would allow it but you don’t so you should have a smaller military.

The military I selected is only 3% of my population, meanwhile at the time japan was field near 1.3% of its population up until the early 1600s. The ming fielded around 2% of their population (Around 2.7 Million), and lived in a relatively peaceful time.
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Chancellor - Alexei Matrovitch
Vice Chancellor - Dmitri Zdunowo
Capital - Moscow
Population - 404.2 Million
Currency - Roys Ruble (₽)
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Postby Nieblham » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:42 pm

Duestchstien wrote:
Nieblham wrote:A.) link?
B.) you are not the Ming, if you controlled all of Ming China than I would allow it but you don’t so you should have a smaller military.

The military I selected is only 3% of my population, meanwhile at the time japan was field near 1.3% of its population up until the early 1600s. The ming fielded around 2% of their population (Around 2.7 Million), and lived in a relatively peaceful time.

Bring Population down to 40M and field 3% (1.2M)
Cut total ships down to 1250 total
Work out history with LFV

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Postby Alsheb » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:06 pm

I'd be interested in joining in, either in the Middle East or in South-East Asia, but I can't really figure out the taken nation roster.
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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:35 pm

Alsheb wrote:I'd be interested in joining in, either in the Middle East or in South-East Asia, but I can't really figure out the taken nation roster.

NPC stands for Non Player Character
you are free to claim any nation that is an NPC
you are free to look at either the character map or the map with names on the OP and create your own nations following the rules on the OP.

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Duestchstien
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Postby Duestchstien » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:40 pm

Nieblham wrote:
Duestchstien wrote:The military I selected is only 3% of my population, meanwhile at the time japan was field near 1.3% of its population up until the early 1600s. The ming fielded around 2% of their population (Around 2.7 Million), and lived in a relatively peaceful time.

Bring Population down to 40M and field 3% (1.2M)
Cut total ships down to 1250 total
Work out history with LFV

I actually think my population is a bit short considering a control over half of former Ming territory and the more populous and fertile part.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_in_1500
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_dynasty
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Chancellor - Alexei Matrovitch
Vice Chancellor - Dmitri Zdunowo
Capital - Moscow
Population - 404.2 Million
Currency - Roys Ruble (₽)
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2024: Age of Superpowers - Nigeria



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Nieblham
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Postby Nieblham » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:03 pm

Duestchstien wrote:
Nieblham wrote:Bring Population down to 40M and field 3% (1.2M)
Cut total ships down to 1250 total
Work out history with LFV

I actually think my population is a bit short considering a control over half of former Ming territory and the more populous and fertile part.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_in_1500
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_dynasty

as best I can tell your nation compared to Ming in 1587:
Image
the black line being the border.
Furthermore LFV has a population of 56.8M and you having 40M would put "China" at 96.8M the missing 30M could be explained by the difference in history and smaller empires.
Furthermore I'm letting you have one of the biggest military any player has even with the reductions. You would have the biggest navy as well LFV has only 50 war junks. Of course this does come with it's own downsides as i mentioned in an above post but I digress. a 1.2M standing army is above anything any European nation could do and the only army near you that could rival you is Balamb in India.

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Postby Nieblham » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:50 pm

I do want to apologize for not getting out a follow up post on the wars. They are, of course, still on going. I have been busy with work lately so RIP me and yay $$$$$.
Hopefully by Tuesday if possible.
Oh Ismeil is now a Patriarch (aka a mod) of this RP
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Postby Czestomierz » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:54 pm

A couple of days ago I posted an IC post saying that my king ordered the training of a new army of 125.000 infantrymen and 25.000 cavaliers.

When will my men be ready?

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Postby Nieblham » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:51 am

Czestomierz wrote:A couple of days ago I posted an IC post saying that my king ordered the training of a new army of 125.000 infantrymen and 25.000 cavaliers.

When will my men be ready?

what's the difference between what you have and what you want?

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Postby Nieblham » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:57 am

The CAS canon has started as such many players will be busy on that RP. As such activity might slow down, don't forget that Time Skip is a thing in this RP if activity gets too low. I refer to the OP for more information.
IF YOU WANT
you can join the CAS Canon RP
it's a FT Space RP
viewtopic.php?p=34215570&sid=4637ea80970ee860f405de86da6a6cb7#p34215570
BUT
you must be a member of the CAS region so either move your nation or create a puppet.

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Postby Czestomierz » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:07 am

Nieblham wrote:
Czestomierz wrote:A couple of days ago I posted an IC post saying that my king ordered the training of a new army of 125.000 infantrymen and 25.000 cavaliers.

When will my men be ready?

what's the difference between what you have and what you want?


Well, now I have like 100.000 soldiers (80.000 infantrymen, 20.000 cavaliers) but I'm training a whole new army of 125.000 infantrymen and 25.000 cavaliers, adding those to the old soldiers.

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Postby Nieblham » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:44 pm

Czestomierz wrote:
Nieblham wrote:what's the difference between what you have and what you want?


Well, now I have like 100.000 soldiers (80.000 infantrymen, 20.000 cavaliers) but I'm training a whole new army of 125.000 infantrymen and 25.000 cavaliers, adding those to the old soldiers.

1 and 1/2 years IC or 3 weeks (from your post) IRL

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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:25 pm

Tag, could I be a “modern” nation native to the New World? Or do we have to be red skinned savages
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Yeah, u do that and I’m gonna have to force u to pull a France, and then a Vichy-Wargloria, after one of his allies proposed pulling an Italy

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Postby Blood God Khorne » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:47 pm

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Tag, could I be a “modern” nation native to the New World? Or do we have to be red skinned savages

tech stays the same and you'd have to explain in your app your history and how your nation became western without ever meeting the west. Again 500 is the Point of Divergence so find out what life was like in 500 for the Americas and build out from there (or as early you could find).
I am assuming you mean Western by modern as in Western Democracy.
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:38 pm

Blood God Khorne wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Tag, could I be a “modern” nation native to the New World? Or do we have to be red skinned savages

tech stays the same and you'd have to explain in your app your history and how your nation became western without ever meeting the west. Again 500 is the Point of Divergence so find out what life was like in 500 for the Americas and build out from there (or as early you could find).
I am assuming you mean Western by modern as in Western Democracy.
FYI this is a puppet of Nieblham.

I was talking in terms of tech

My thought was perhaps around the 1200s or so, a trade ship or several trade ships from either China or Europe gets blown off course and shipwreck off the coast of America (whether in the East or West coast depends on where that ship comes from). There a native American tribe (mine) finds the wrecked cargo (made up of perhaps iron armour and weapons) and seeing the advantages of these, start learning the techniques as to create and utilise them, using them to become more militarised and conquer other tribes to say. As time progresses and this new Native American Empire develops, they find that they can use material like iron for things like farming and so develop a more urban civilisation like the West or East
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Postby Nieblham » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:21 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Blood God Khorne wrote:tech stays the same and you'd have to explain in your app your history and how your nation became western without ever meeting the west. Again 500 is the Point of Divergence so find out what life was like in 500 for the Americas and build out from there (or as early you could find).
I am assuming you mean Western by modern as in Western Democracy.
FYI this is a puppet of Nieblham.

I was talking in terms of tech

My thought was perhaps around the 1200s or so, a trade ship or several trade ships from either China or Europe gets blown off course and shipwreck off the coast of America (whether in the East or West coast depends on where that ship comes from). There a native American tribe (mine) finds the wrecked cargo (made up of perhaps iron armour and weapons) and seeing the advantages of these, start learning the techniques as to create and utilise them, using them to become more militarised and conquer other tribes to say. As time progresses and this new Native American Empire develops, they find that they can use material like iron for things like farming and so develop a more urban civilisation like the West or East


That would be just as unreasonable as a nation wanting alien contact to thus have space weapons.
Ships in the 1200s really couldn't even do that. Especially not from China, furthermore the vikings had the land that Lief Erickson found under there control. Which lost contact with Norway for some time and merged with local tribes and didn't become some huge power IC.

It also depends on where you want to app as that would be the starting line for how your nation's history. Furthermore where you app could make it easier or harder to justify the cultural and technological changes you want. But I digress, there should be a tech gap between the new world and old world but because of the Vikings European plagues should not be as deadly as they had already spread through the new world by now. This should create an interesting interaction as Europe won't come across empty land but land filled with people in the new world. I'm alright with having a stronger farming system that can support bigger cities and thus more specialization but nothing like longswords or guns or cannons would be created naturally at this time. So you'd be much stronger and more resilient which should be enough of an advantage to prevent complete destruction by a European power.

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Postby Casiania » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:55 am

NationStates Name:Casiania
IC Nation Name:Casirano
Ruler:raptornia
Flag:timor leste
Government Type:liberal
Capitol City (must label the IRL counterpart if you have a custom name or provide a map with their locations):atlanta
Other cities:Moba, caru, dabus, nomad, yabbastown, stonetown, and farlands
Population:20k people
Military:10 soldiers
History (Remember the POD is 500 CE so build history out from there):the colony was borned by a tribe war
Claim:florida and georgia
Extra info (optional) (culture, language, etc)
Language:san sento, mivaska, and english
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Advent of the New World (1500 CE RP OPEN TO ALL)

Postby Emmajohnsan » Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:48 am

-A new religion known as Bokononism arises in Micronesia and Kiribati.
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2,000 Chinese 'crossbows' are ordered by the Maori army.
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Aotearoa will stage a gladiator competition pitting Aborigines against Papuans in the near future.
Fish are migrating to the Pacific at an alarming rate, leaving local Maori fishermen breathless.
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