Advent of the New World (1500 CE RP OPEN TO ALL)

[Danceria]

Anyone willing to help a brother out on how 2 Elector-Prince? Since I'm basically gonna be Denmark but owning a bit more land, I'll cover much of Holland, lower Jutland, and parts of Prussia, I am de jure a member, correct (even if much of my core lands are in Holland)

[Cainesland]

Thank you. I thought that meant my apps acceptance was pending changes to my Nations history. Thank you for the clarification.

what we currently have on the doc is good.

Thank you. Do you think it would be possible for yourself or a mod to give my app another look? I had updated to make sure it fit with established events, but I also added statistics, technologies and battle appearances. I just want to make sure that it is still acceptable with the changes, if that is ok. If it helps, the app is on page 7, but I can repost it if need be.

[The V O I D]

The State of Wei could prove fairly formidable in terms of numbers on the land unless Japanese tactics prove superior.

Hmm... perhaps, if the Wei cannot be subdued, perhaps we can use them...

DEA, how would you feel about an alliance deal where the Japanese offer naval support and transportation of troops, in return for 'army lending' and such from the Wei as well as a promise against invasion from both sides? I feel we could both benefit from such a deal.

[Cainesland]

Anyone willing to help a brother out on how 2 Elector-Prince? Since I'm basically gonna be Denmark but owning a bit more land, I'll cover much of Holland, lower Jutland, and parts of Prussia, I am de jure a member, correct (even if much of my core lands are in Holland)

Are you wanting a description for how one would become a prince-elector? Or what their role is?

[Democratic East-Asia]

The State of Wei could prove fairly formidable in terms of numbers on the land unless Japanese tactics prove superior.

Hmm... perhaps, if the Wei cannot be subdued, perhaps we can use them...

DEA, how would you feel about an alliance deal where the Japanese offer naval support and transportation of troops, in return for 'army lending' and such from the Wei as well as a promise against invasion from both sides? I feel we could both benefit from such a deal.

Hmmm, the Emperor of Wei would definitely need to think this over, as things seem "alright" as of now. That being said, having a strong naval ally could prove fruitful for Wei when it comes to trade, and a bit foreign adventurism could never hurt.

We'll see about this. As of now Wei's ambitions lay to the south of the country (China honestly doesn't care what goes on elsewhere for the most part), though things could get a bit complex later on.

[Danceria]

Anyone willing to help a brother out on how 2 Elector-Prince? Since I'm basically gonna be Denmark but owning a bit more land, I'll cover much of Holland, lower Jutland, and parts of Prussia, I am de jure a member, correct (even if much of my core lands are in Holland)

Are you wanting a description for how one would become a prince-elector? Or what their role is?

Yes. From what I vaguely understand, an Elector is in charge of a swathe of territories known as an Elector Circle (example, Lower Saxon Circle covers present day Saxony and Bohemia, Upper Rhenish covers Holland, ECT.) the Prince being the leader/most powerful of that faction. Among these Electors the Kaiser is drawn from, and elected. My question being is if I am the Duke of Holland (a vassal to Hypothetical Denmark), could I become the Kaiser? Who is allowed to become Kaiser and how?

[Cainesland]

Are you wanting a description for how one would become a prince-elector? Or what their role is?

Yes. From what I vaguely understand, an Elector is in charge of a swathe of territories known as an Elector Circle (example, Lower Saxon Circle covers present day Saxony and Bohemia, Upper Rhenish covers Holland, ECT.) the Prince being the leader/most powerful of that faction. Among these Electors the Kaiser is drawn from, and elected. My question being is if I am the Duke of Holland (a vassal to Hypothetical Denmark), could I become the Kaiser? Who is allowed to become Kaiser and how?

Ok. So the Holy Roman Empire is a big conglomeration of Nations. Large countries such as Prussia, and small ones like imperial city states. If you held an imperial estate, you could vote in the imperial diet. If you were a Prince-Elect you could vote for the emperor. I presume anyone could run for the office of Holy Roman Emperor, but I’m not sure. However, I presume being a high noble such as a Duke, or an Elector would improve your chances of convincing the electors that you would be a good Emperor. I read on Wikipedia that there was s whole process for the how, called the golden bull based off the image on a seal, but I haven’t found much information on it as of yet.

Edit: Here is the article on the golden bull.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Bull_of_1356

[Nieblham]

THE CHARACTER MAP IS OUT
NPCS ARE OUT
let's explain this map and what is on it
First the circles around Europe and India
The European circle is

[box]NationStates Name: The Valyria Empire (Val)
IC Nation Name: The Carolingian Empire,

This is the IC equivalent of the Holy Roman Empire (the history will be on the history doc soon)
This does not give Valyria (who is playing as the Kingdom of Francia) the ability to control all those nations but he does have influence in them as he's the current leader. While at the same time the other nations will be trying to get enough electors to take the role away from him. The mods (aka me) will look into how the HRE worked for more information.
The Member states are
Kingdom of Francia, Netherlands (light pink), Belgium (bluish-purple), Normandy (bright pink), Austria (light purple)

The Indian circle (Sri Lanka is included in this) are the Cetra Oraclenates.
Each land group is ruled by a different Oracle (think philosopher king) with Sri Lanka (IC Goland) holding the Emperor of the Cetra.
The Emperor is at this point a glorified title and the different Oracles have most of the power.
Though if one were to get their hands on the title and could rally the right supporters they would be a very powerful Emperor.
Member States are
Balamb Oraclenate (ME!)
Cadoan Oraclenate (red)
Amur Oraclenate (grey)
Insomnia Oraclenate (Blue)
Goland Oraclenate (green)

These nations are here to give players plenty of options on trying to influence India and have access to their trades. Oh and the Mughals are just to the West of India too.

All of these nations are going to have little to no history on the doc. This is to allow the players that app as them to make their own history.

Accepted players are allowed to add more to the History doc if they want to and it doesn't interfere with established history.

If players want to join either of the "factions" and it's reasonable they can do so.

Now if you have an app that is not finished or otherwise not approved, well RIP. You'll have to app as one of NPCs OR claim somewhere else.

This map was made with the goal of making sure there was an NPC by every player. Maybe more NPCs will emerge as more players join

Players can reapp as an NPC or another claim just inform the mods so we can either remove your nation or take over as an NPC.

a more detailed and pretty map will be out soon along with all other names.

The IC thread should be out by 12 pm tmr my time that's ~16 hours from now

[Cassinopa]

THE CHARACTER MAP IS OUT
NPCS ARE OUT
let's explain this map and what is on it
First the circles around Europe and India
The European circle is

[box]NationStates Name: The Valyria Empire (Val)
IC Nation Name: The Carolingian Empire,

This is the IC equivalent of the Holy Roman Empire (the history will be on the history doc soon)
This does not give Valyria (who is playing as the Kingdom of Francia) the ability to control all those nations but he does have influence in them as he's the current leader. While at the same time the other nations will be trying to get enough electors to take the role away from him. The mods (aka me) will look into how the HRE worked for more information.
The Member states are
Kingdom of Francia, Netherlands (light pink), Belgium (bluish-purple), Normandy (bright pink), Austria (light purple)

The Indian circle (Sri Lanka is included in this) are the Cetra Oraclenates.
Each land group is ruled by a different Oracle (think philosopher king) with Sri Lanka (IC Goland) holding the Emperor of the Cetra.
The Emperor is at this point a glorified title and the different Oracles have most of the power.
Though if one were to get their hands on the title and could rally the right supporters they would be a very powerful Emperor.
Member States are
Balamb Oraclenate (ME!)
Cadoan Oraclenate (red)
Amur Oraclenate (grey)
Insomnia Oraclenate (Blue)
Goland Oraclenate (green)

These nations are here to give players plenty of options on trying to influence India and have access to their trades. Oh and the Mughals are just to the West of India too.

All of these nations are going to have little to no history on the doc. This is to allow the players that app as them to make their own history.

Accepted players are allowed to add more to the History doc if they want to and it doesn't interfere with established history.

If players want to join either of the "factions" and it's reasonable they can do so.

Now if you have an app that is not finished or otherwise not approved, well RIP. You'll have to app as one of NPCs OR claim somewhere else.

This map was made with the goal of making sure there was an NPC by every player. Maybe more NPCs will emerge as more players join

Players can reapp as an NPC or another claim just inform the mods so we can either remove your nation or take over as an NPC.

a more detailed and pretty map will be out soon along with all other names.

The IC thread should be out by 12 pm tmr my time that's ~16 hours from now

Here's the version of the map with the updated Europe/ME NPCs
https://i.imgur.com/Hat8xr2.png

[Nieblham]

THE CHARACTER MAP IS OUT
NPCS ARE OUT
let's explain this map and what is on it
First the circles around Europe and India
The European circle is

This is the IC equivalent of the Holy Roman Empire (the history will be on the history doc soon)
This does not give Valyria (who is playing as the Kingdom of Francia) the ability to control all those nations but he does have influence in them as he's the current leader. While at the same time the other nations will be trying to get enough electors to take the role away from him. The mods (aka me) will look into how the HRE worked for more information.
The Member states are
Kingdom of Francia, Netherlands (light pink), Belgium (bluish-purple), Normandy (bright pink), Austria (light purple)

The Indian circle (Sri Lanka is included in this) are the Cetra Oraclenates.
Each land group is ruled by a different Oracle (think philosopher king) with Sri Lanka (IC Goland) holding the Emperor of the Cetra.
The Emperor is at this point a glorified title and the different Oracles have most of the power.
Though if one were to get their hands on the title and could rally the right supporters they would be a very powerful Emperor.
Member States are
Balamb Oraclenate (ME!)
Cadoan Oraclenate (red)
Amur Oraclenate (grey)
Insomnia Oraclenate (Blue)
Goland Oraclenate (green)

These nations are here to give players plenty of options on trying to influence India and have access to their trades. Oh and the Mughals are just to the West of India too.

All of these nations are going to have little to no history on the doc. This is to allow the players that app as them to make their own history.

Accepted players are allowed to add more to the History doc if they want to and it doesn't interfere with established history.

If players want to join either of the "factions" and it's reasonable they can do so.

Now if you have an app that is not finished or otherwise not approved, well RIP. You'll have to app as one of NPCs OR claim somewhere else.

This map was made with the goal of making sure there was an NPC by every player. Maybe more NPCs will emerge as more players join

Players can reapp as an NPC or another claim just inform the mods so we can either remove your nation or take over as an NPC.

a more detailed and pretty map will be out soon along with all other names.

The IC thread should be out by 12 pm tmr my time that's ~16 hours from now

Here's the version of the map with the updated Europe/ME NPCs
https://i.imgur.com/Hat8xr2.png

the 5 claims in Iberia will go to Yotta as he only has 45 claims currently.

[The Valyria Empire]

THE CHARACTER MAP IS OUT
NPCS ARE OUT
let's explain this map and what is on it
First the circles around Europe and India
The European circle is

[box]NationStates Name: The Valyria Empire (Val)
IC Nation Name: The Carolingian Empire,

This is the IC equivalent of the Holy Roman Empire (the history will be on the history doc soon)
This does not give Valyria (who is playing as the Kingdom of Francia) the ability to control all those nations but he does have influence in them as he's the current leader. While at the same time the other nations will be trying to get enough electors to take the role away from him. The mods (aka me) will look into how the HRE worked for more information.
The Member states are
Kingdom of Francia, Netherlands (light pink), Belgium (bluish-purple), Normandy (bright pink), Austria (light purple)

Honestly, with how much history has already been written, and since you're going to be making the HRE history I don't see much point in me writing a history. I think I'll just drop out of this. Seemed like it was going to be a lot of fun, but I cannot keep track of everybody. (I would highly recommend making a roster)

So, all my land and shit is up for anybody to have.

[Nieblham]

THE CHARACTER MAP IS OUT
NPCS ARE OUT
let's explain this map and what is on it
First the circles around Europe and India
The European circle is

This is the IC equivalent of the Holy Roman Empire (the history will be on the history doc soon)
This does not give Valyria (who is playing as the Kingdom of Francia) the ability to control all those nations but he does have influence in them as he's the current leader. While at the same time the other nations will be trying to get enough electors to take the role away from him. The mods (aka me) will look into how the HRE worked for more information.
The Member states are
Kingdom of Francia, Netherlands (light pink), Belgium (bluish-purple), Normandy (bright pink), Austria (light purple)

Honestly, with how much history has already been written, and since you're going to be making the HRE history I don't see much point in me writing a history. I think I'll just drop out of this. Seemed like it was going to be a lot of fun, but I cannot keep track of everybody. (I would highly recommend making a roster)

So, all my land and shit is up for anybody to have.

i was kinda hoping you were going to help make the history for it. I was just giving what you wanted which was the Carolingian Empire. the NPCs have no history the doc only has accepted players and other certain events.

[The Valyria Empire]

Honestly, with how much history has already been written, and since you're going to be making the HRE history I don't see much point in me writing a history. I think I'll just drop out of this. Seemed like it was going to be a lot of fun, but I cannot keep track of everybody. (I would highly recommend making a roster)

So, all my land and shit is up for anybody to have.

i was kinda hoping you were going to help make the history for it. I was just giving what you wanted which was the Carolingian Empire. the NPCs have no history the doc only has accepted players and other certain events.

Nah, it's alright. I could never find the energy or time to write the history, and trying to fit it with everything else. Sorry to drop out on you all the sudden. Please, don't think it's because I think I'm losing power, I just don't have time nor the inspiration to get involved with this RP.

I hope this RP goes well, and may Tzeentch watch over you Nieblham.

[Nieblham]

i was kinda hoping you were going to help make the history for it. I was just giving what you wanted which was the Carolingian Empire. the NPCs have no history the doc only has accepted players and other certain events.

Nah, it's alright. I could never find the energy or time to write the history, and trying to fit it with everything else. Sorry to drop out on you all the sudden. Please, don't think it's because I think I'm losing power, I just don't have time nor the inspiration to get involved with this RP.

I hope this RP goes well, and may Tzeentch watch over you Nieblham.

HERETIC

joking aside this makes me sad....
well Rome, Portugal want to join (and rename) it to the HRE?

[Duestchstien]

On Edmond the ought ill be staying as the Inca, disregard my other apps

[The V O I D]

Is the pink blob NPC that owns northern Joseon the Joseon Empire or something?

Cause Japan's supposed to be at war with Joseon, so if/when the Japanese win against them and make northern Joseon peninsula their client state, would that then include the big pink blob?

[Nieblham]

Is the pink blob NPC that owns northern Joseon the Joseon Empire or something?

Cause Japan's supposed to be at war with Joseon, so if/when the Japanese win against them and make northern Joseon peninsula their client state, would that then include the big pink blob?

That is Yuan a mongol China basically and if you want to be at war with him that’s fine. And if you think you can get that good of a treaty/handle annexation that’s up to you

[Cainesland]

Ottoman. I noticed on your app you were having trouble finding information for the population and military. If it helps, the Byzantine empire in around 1204 seems to have occupied territory similiar to what you occupy in your claim. It seems that their population was around 9,000,000 people around that time according to Wikipedia.

[Cainesland]

For the military. I had assumed, at least for Rome, that most of the soldiers would be free adult males between the ages of 20 and 40. Do you guys think that would be accurate for your civilizations as well?

[Nieblham]

Alright the IC is out
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=442959&p=34001370#p34001370
But make sure to read BOTH THIS THREAD'S OP AND THE IC THREAD'S OP

Anyways here's the world currently enjoy and have fun RPing!

[Democratic East-Asia]

Is the pink blob NPC that owns northern Joseon the Joseon Empire or something?

Cause Japan's supposed to be at war with Joseon, so if/when the Japanese win against them and make northern Joseon peninsula their client state, would that then include the big pink blob?

That is Yuan a mongol China basically and if you want to be at war with him that’s fine. And if you think you can get that good of a treaty/handle annexation that’s up to you

Mongols in my Chinese backyard?! Well then, time for Wei to do something... maybe.

[Cainesland]

If you don’t mind my asking, how did the Sultanate start in Egypt? I ask because the last established history has Rome and crusaders holding Egypt and the Holyland.

[Nieblham]

If you don’t mind my asking, how did the Sultanate start in Egypt? I ask because the last established history has Rome and crusaders holding Egypt and the Holyland.

anytime after the 2nd crusade as the third and 4th was focused on the Holy land
the Specifics will not be known unless a player apps as Egypt.

[Cainesland]

If you don’t mind my asking, how did the Sultanate start in Egypt? I ask because the last established history has Rome and crusaders holding Egypt and the Holyland.

anytime after the 2nd crusade as the third and 4th was focused on the Holy land
the Specifics will not be known unless a player apps as Egypt.

Ok. Thank you. Am I correct that it is still the puppet state?

[Nieblham]

anytime after the 2nd crusade as the third and 4th was focused on the Holy land
the Specifics will not be known unless a player apps as Egypt.

Ok. Thank you. Am I correct that it is still the puppet state?

No, no you are not.
You are very, very, very incorrect.