The Dance of Chaos [OOC-Fantasy-OPEN]

[Elysian Kentarchy]

When given the choice between accepting a chess match or placing WMDs off the coast of the person who challenged you to a game of chess you of course pick the latter.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

So yeah...I'm kinda right now and the obvious culprit behind that sickness is surely my crass Computer consumption hence why my access is kinda restricted right now.

[Tracian Empire]

Well, it's really up to each relic. Each of them normally has more than enough mana to manifest themselves into human form, but most of them almost never use their own mana. Most of them have a near paranoid fear of losing their mana, și they use their master's force.

If their master has enough mana though, the relics can manifest themselves in human form. They can actually shapeshift in whatever form they desire, as long as they have enough mana for it. And they can still use magic and weapons in human form, yes xD

Yeah, but Demise has a habit of stealing the mana of fallen enemies and keeping it for himself, is what i'm getting at. He wouldn't have to use his Master's, or his own. He'd be kinda like Gilgamesh after Fate/Zero, seemingly endless lifespan on Earth despite no Master.

When you consider their relative power in their universes too, they're also pretty similar. Baseline Demise was a human who mastered Ancient Magic, which for humans is.... basically being a unicorn
I wonder how many humans have done that in the thousands of years since his death cx

Yes, all relics are able to store mana, and relics in general most likely a lot of mana stored, especially if they have stolen mana from their enemies for a few thousand years xD

I was just mentioning that in general, relics do not like to use their own mana. They can't completely run out of it, but if they lose enough of it, they won't be able to manifest physically into this world anymore. And that's pretty much as close to the mortal notion of death as a relic can get. So even if it might seem irrational, considering how much mana most of them have, relics will normally try to use their master's mana instead of their own. But that really depends on their individual personalities, and most of them are probably more than able to manifest themselves in a human form, to use magic and to do human stuff even without a master - there are probably quite a few relics hidden like that, among the mortals.

Well, there probably has been a moderate number of people who have tried to use it, but there haven't many humans able or willing to master it. Especially after the Calamity xD

[Kollin]

Yeah, but Demise has a habit of stealing the mana of fallen enemies and keeping it for himself, is what i'm getting at. He wouldn't have to use his Master's, or his own. He'd be kinda like Gilgamesh after Fate/Zero, seemingly endless lifespan on Earth despite no Master.

When you consider their relative power in their universes too, they're also pretty similar. Baseline Demise was a human who mastered Ancient Magic, which for humans is.... basically being a unicorn
I wonder how many humans have done that in the thousands of years since his death cx

Yes, all relics are able to store mana, and relics in general most likely a lot of mana stored, especially if they have stolen mana from their enemies for a few thousand years xD

I was just mentioning that in general, relics do not like to use their own mana. They can't completely run out of it, but if they lose enough of it, they won't be able to manifest physically into this world anymore. And that's pretty much as close to the mortal notion of death as a relic can get. So even if it might seem irrational, considering how much mana most of them have, relics will normally try to use their master's mana instead of their own. But that really depends on their individual personalities, and most of them are probably more than able to manifest themselves in a human form, to use magic and to do human stuff even without a master - there are probably quite a few relics hidden like that, among the mortals.

Well, there probably has been a moderate number of people who have tried to use it, but there haven't many humans able or willing to master it. Especially after the Calamity xD

Neat. I love this situations where my intention is to create a 'super weapon' and then someone goes "Actually, it's even more super than that." and im just like, my brilliance is so boundless even i can't see where it ends! and then somebody promptly ruins it, usually. Whose gonna do that part?

I guess that makes sense. Should i add in any more details to the app, like exactly how much amplification its capable of, or how much stronger it can make you, it is really super duper vague right now. It could be 2x amplification or it could be 20,000x at this point, since there's no mention

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

[Charlia]

Yes, all relics are able to store mana, and relics in general most likely a lot of mana stored, especially if they have stolen mana from their enemies for a few thousand years xD

I was just mentioning that in general, relics do not like to use their own mana. They can't completely run out of it, but if they lose enough of it, they won't be able to manifest physically into this world anymore. And that's pretty much as close to the mortal notion of death as a relic can get. So even if it might seem irrational, considering how much mana most of them have, relics will normally try to use their master's mana instead of their own. But that really depends on their individual personalities, and most of them are probably more than able to manifest themselves in a human form, to use magic and to do human stuff even without a master - there are probably quite a few relics hidden like that, among the mortals.

Well, there probably has been a moderate number of people who have tried to use it, but there haven't many humans able or willing to master it. Especially after the Calamity xD

Neat. I love this situations where my intention is to create a 'super weapon' and then someone goes "Actually, it's even more super than that." and im just like, my brilliance is so boundless even i can't see where it ends! and then somebody promptly ruins it, usually. Whose gonna do that part?

I guess that makes sense. Should i add in any more details to the app, like exactly how much amplification its capable of, or how much stronger it can make you, it is really super duper vague right now. It could be 2x amplification or it could be 20,000x at this point, since there's no mention

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

That's sort of what happened to me, but instead it was my intention to create something that seems awesome and powerful, and then you look closer and realize that it actually kind of sucks.

And then later I realized 'hey wait a second, this actually could be awesome and powerful.' And now I am just waiting for the opportunity to put trees through people's faces. It will be glorious.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

I personally prefer Frost and Ice powers when it comes to that "elemental" Stuff.

[Nea Videssos]

Yes, all relics are able to store mana, and relics in general most likely a lot of mana stored, especially if they have stolen mana from their enemies for a few thousand years xD

I was just mentioning that in general, relics do not like to use their own mana. They can't completely run out of it, but if they lose enough of it, they won't be able to manifest physically into this world anymore. And that's pretty much as close to the mortal notion of death as a relic can get. So even if it might seem irrational, considering how much mana most of them have, relics will normally try to use their master's mana instead of their own. But that really depends on their individual personalities, and most of them are probably more than able to manifest themselves in a human form, to use magic and to do human stuff even without a master - there are probably quite a few relics hidden like that, among the mortals.

Well, there probably has been a moderate number of people who have tried to use it, but there haven't many humans able or willing to master it. Especially after the Calamity xD

Neat. I love this situations where my intention is to create a 'super weapon' and then someone goes "Actually, it's even more super than that." and im just like, my brilliance is so boundless even i can't see where it ends! and then somebody promptly ruins it, usually. Whose gonna do that part?

I guess that makes sense. Should i add in any more details to the app, like exactly how much amplification its capable of, or how much stronger it can make you, it is really super duper vague right now. It could be 2x amplification or it could be 20,000x at this point, since there's no mention

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

On a relevant note, did you like any of the pics I linked on the previous page?
Or not. That's fine too.

[Kollin]

Neat. I love this situations where my intention is to create a 'super weapon' and then someone goes "Actually, it's even more super than that." and im just like, my brilliance is so boundless even i can't see where it ends! and then somebody promptly ruins it, usually. Whose gonna do that part?

I guess that makes sense. Should i add in any more details to the app, like exactly how much amplification its capable of, or how much stronger it can make you, it is really super duper vague right now. It could be 2x amplification or it could be 20,000x at this point, since there's no mention

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

That's sort of what happened to me, but instead it was my intention to create something that seems awesome and powerful, and then you look closer and realize that it actually kind of sucks.

And then later I realized 'hey wait a second, this actually could be awesome and powerful.' And now I am just waiting for the opportunity to put trees through people's faces. It will be glorious.

I'm just waiting to see if i should get more detailed or not, and then kill people by being a flying spear at night that lands outside your city and some ominous force beckons brave souls to try and take it.

Jut to make sure i understand the huge amount of lore correctly too, i am trying to get an actually good sense of what i've created and how strong it (potentially) is. Mastering Ancient Magic, puts even a human on the same level as Loroi Sages? Or is that like, Mastery above Mastery kinda dealio there.
I'm assuming a Loroi Sage is probably on the same level as your average Kanonikos, that makes sense in my brain for some reason.

Also gimme me a moment i gotta find your app now Char, throwing trees through peoples faces thats a new one XD

Neat. I love this situations where my intention is to create a 'super weapon' and then someone goes "Actually, it's even more super than that." and im just like, my brilliance is so boundless even i can't see where it ends! and then somebody promptly ruins it, usually. Whose gonna do that part?

I guess that makes sense. Should i add in any more details to the app, like exactly how much amplification its capable of, or how much stronger it can make you, it is really super duper vague right now. It could be 2x amplification or it could be 20,000x at this point, since there's no mention

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

On a relevant note, did you like any of the pics I linked on the previous page?
Or not. That's fine too.

They were nice, kind of on the fence about selecting one. They're better than the current. The demons one sadly feel weird with a human, though i suppose having considered himself a demon more than human at onepoint it wouldnt be unbelievable.

EDIT: looking again, definitely leaning towards the 1st one of the 3rd spoiler. The little arm piece is good too, i figured if you were some ancient legendary warrior who murder-death-killed everything you probably have fancy magic armor of fanciness anyway.

[Tracian Empire]

Yes, all relics are able to store mana, and relics in general most likely a lot of mana stored, especially if they have stolen mana from their enemies for a few thousand years xD

I was just mentioning that in general, relics do not like to use their own mana. They can't completely run out of it, but if they lose enough of it, they won't be able to manifest physically into this world anymore. And that's pretty much as close to the mortal notion of death as a relic can get. So even if it might seem irrational, considering how much mana most of them have, relics will normally try to use their master's mana instead of their own. But that really depends on their individual personalities, and most of them are probably more than able to manifest themselves in a human form, to use magic and to do human stuff even without a master - there are probably quite a few relics hidden like that, among the mortals.

Well, there probably has been a moderate number of people who have tried to use it, but there haven't many humans able or willing to master it. Especially after the Calamity xD

Neat. I love this situations where my intention is to create a 'super weapon' and then someone goes "Actually, it's even more super than that." and im just like, my brilliance is so boundless even i can't see where it ends! and then somebody promptly ruins it, usually. Whose gonna do that part?

I guess that makes sense. Should i add in any more details to the app, like exactly how much amplification its capable of, or how much stronger it can make you, it is really super duper vague right now. It could be 2x amplification or it could be 20,000x at this point, since there's no mention

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

Well, I did create the relics to be the most powerful weapons in the known world. Whether players will take advantage of that lore part or not is up to them xD

You can do that if you want to. I generally tend to be pretty flexible with things like this, as long as the players are careful when using those powers in the IC.

Probably

But then again, it's not like the Magic of the Oath is weak. Ancient Magic and Oath's Magic each have their own advantages and disadvantages.

[Tracian Empire]

I'm just waiting to see if i should get more detailed or not, and then kill people by being a flying spear at night that lands outside your city and some ominous force beckons brave souls to try and take it.

Jut to make sure i understand the huge amount of lore correctly too, i am trying to get an actually good sense of what i've created and how strong it (potentially) is. Mastering Ancient Magic, puts even a human on the same level as Loroi Sages? Or is that like, Mastery above Mastery kinda dealio there.
I'm assuming a Loroi Sage is probably on the same level as your average Kanonikos, that makes sense in my brain for some reason.

Also gimme me a moment i gotta find your app now Char, throwing trees through peoples faces thats a new one XD

Mastering Ancient Magic wouldn't put a human on the same level as a Loroi Sage, unfortunately. Loroi mages are generally more powerful than human mages, mostly because of just how more predisposed towards magic they are.

Now, I'm not sure what to say about your character. Now that I think about it, he would have more than enough mana and experience to perhaps surpass a Loroi Sage. And while the point of the relics is that they are among the most powerful weapons in the world, so far, their lore has been marked by the idea that there were no masters to use them at such power levels.

But while I've always had the idea that relics could, in human form, use magic, it's the first time when I realize that relics in human form could actually be unbelievably powerful mages.

So I'll have to place some restrictions there.

[Charlia]

I'm just waiting to see if i should get more detailed or not, and then kill people by being a flying spear at night that lands outside your city and some ominous force beckons brave souls to try and take it.

Jut to make sure i understand the huge amount of lore correctly too, i am trying to get an actually good sense of what i've created and how strong it (potentially) is. Mastering Ancient Magic, puts even a human on the same level as Loroi Sages? Or is that like, Mastery above Mastery kinda dealio there.
I'm assuming a Loroi Sage is probably on the same level as your average Kanonikos, that makes sense in my brain for some reason.

Also gimme me a moment i gotta find your app now Char, throwing trees through peoples faces thats a new one XD

Mastering Ancient Magic wouldn't put a human on the same level as a Loroi Sage, unfortunately. Loroi mages are generally more powerful than human mages, mostly because of just how more predisposed towards magic they are.

But can they control all of nature?

[Tracian Empire]

Mastering Ancient Magic wouldn't put a human on the same level as a Loroi Sage, unfortunately. Loroi mages are generally more powerful than human mages, mostly because of just how more predisposed towards magic they are.

But can they control all of nature?

They can't

But then again, that power will have some physical limitations, and Alina lacks experience

A relic on the other hand, would have a huge amount of power and experience. So I'm going to put some sort of restraint on how magic they can use by themselves.

[Charlia]

But can they control all of nature?

They can't

But then again, that power will have some physical limitations, and Alina lacks experience

A relic on the other hand, would have a huge amount of power and experience. So I'm going to put some sort of restraint on how magic they can use by themselves.

And, I suppose, in fairness... mastering Ancient Magic wouldn't put a human on the same level as a Loroi Sage.


But then, Alina won't be human any more, so no restrictions there.


Mm, yes, lack of experience... for now.

[Axis Asteroid]

Mastering Ancient Magic wouldn't put a human on the same level as a Loroi Sage, unfortunately. Loroi mages are generally more powerful than human mages, mostly because of just how more predisposed towards magic they are.

I assume Thyrian mages are an exception?

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I'm just waiting to see if i should get more detailed or not, and then kill people by being a flying spear at night that lands outside your city and some ominous force beckons brave souls to try and take it.

Jut to make sure i understand the huge amount of lore correctly too, i am trying to get an actually good sense of what i've created and how strong it (potentially) is. Mastering Ancient Magic, puts even a human on the same level as Loroi Sages? Or is that like, Mastery above Mastery kinda dealio there.
I'm assuming a Loroi Sage is probably on the same level as your average Kanonikos, that makes sense in my brain for some reason.

Also gimme me a moment i gotta find your app now Char, throwing trees through peoples faces thats a new one XD

Mastering Ancient Magic wouldn't put a human on the same level as a Loroi Sage, unfortunately. Loroi mages are generally more powerful than human mages, mostly because of just how more predisposed towards magic they are.

Now, I'm not sure what to say about your character. Now that I think about it, he would have more than enough mana and experience to perhaps surpass a Loroi Sage. And while the point of the relics is that they are among the most powerful weapons in the world, so far, their lore has been marked by the idea that there were no masters to use them at such power levels.

But while I've always had the idea that relics could, in human form, use magic, it's the first time when I realize that relics in human form could actually be unbelievably powerful mages.

So I'll have to place some restrictions there.

Speaking of relics...

Mastering Ancient Magic wouldn't put a human on the same level as a Loroi Sage, unfortunately. Loroi mages are generally more powerful than human mages, mostly because of just how more predisposed towards magic they are.

I assume Thyrian mages are an exception?

You know, everytime I see your flag, I am reminded of the Iberia player from AltDiv. He was a major Index fan and uses the same picture as profile pic somewhere else.

[Kollin]

Neat. I love this situations where my intention is to create a 'super weapon' and then someone goes "Actually, it's even more super than that." and im just like, my brilliance is so boundless even i can't see where it ends! and then somebody promptly ruins it, usually. Whose gonna do that part?

I guess that makes sense. Should i add in any more details to the app, like exactly how much amplification its capable of, or how much stronger it can make you, it is really super duper vague right now. It could be 2x amplification or it could be 20,000x at this point, since there's no mention

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

Well, I did create the relics to be the most powerful weapons in the known world. Whether players will take advantage of that lore part or not is up to them xD

You can do that if you want to. I generally tend to be pretty flexible with things like this, as long as the players are careful when using those powers in the IC.

Probably

But then again, it's not like the Magic of the Oath is weak. Ancient Magic and Oath's Magic each have their own advantages and disadvantages.

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm going to switch out the image, add theme song, and then cry because Fate/Zero doesn't use double-bladed spears. Imagine that, but with blades on both sides, that's supposed to be the object appearance.

Honestly the balancing factor of Demise right now is that probably nobody alive save a few Loroi Sages is actually strong enough to withstand his highest levels of amplification. TFW your balancing factor is being a weapon so powerful the only things that could use it properly are so powerful they don't need weapons to begin with.
Kinda makes him redundant doesnt it XD

Demise would probably only be OK with Oath Magic, having learned most of it from previous wielders.

I'm just waiting to see if i should get more detailed or not, and then kill people by being a flying spear at night that lands outside your city and some ominous force beckons brave souls to try and take it.

Jut to make sure i understand the huge amount of lore correctly too, i am trying to get an actually good sense of what i've created and how strong it (potentially) is. Mastering Ancient Magic, puts even a human on the same level as Loroi Sages? Or is that like, Mastery above Mastery kinda dealio there.
I'm assuming a Loroi Sage is probably on the same level as your average Kanonikos, that makes sense in my brain for some reason.

Also gimme me a moment i gotta find your app now Char, throwing trees through peoples faces thats a new one XD

Mastering Ancient Magic wouldn't put a human on the same level as a Loroi Sage, unfortunately. Loroi mages are generally more powerful than human mages, mostly because of just how more predisposed towards magic they are.

Now, I'm not sure what to say about your character. Now that I think about it, he would have more than enough mana and experience to perhaps surpass a Loroi Sage. And while the point of the relics is that they are among the most powerful weapons in the world, so far, their lore has been marked by the idea that there were no masters to use them at such power levels.

But while I've always had the idea that relics could, in human form, use magic, it's the first time when I realize that relics in human form could actually be unbelievably powerful mages.

So I'll have to place some restrictions there.

This is why i ask questions, i told you i never get balancing right the 1st time.

Well that's why i asked, because it occurred to me if they could, Demise in human form would basically be the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse and then the Apocalypse itself rolled into one very sad trap.

Relics were forged by Gods, typically, right? That does give a lot of leeway for making restrictions, even if you are something that was probably the project of both Gods of War and the guy for Darkness and Death.

When made into a relic, their soul is meant to take the primary form of a weapon, or object, the shapeshifting is a consequence of being magical and very powerful, moreso than they ever could have imagined in life, most likely. I think it then makes a pretty easy segue into a rule where returning to original form, human, Loroi, whatever it is that isn't the weapon you are now meant to be, while comparably effortless for them, limits their throughput potential.

Essentially, think about all of Demise's power that it's wielder can't use because they're the weak link and it would destroy them. Same concept, except when in your normal humanoid form, you can't use your full power, because it's greater than it ever was in life. Instead of being destroyed, you'd just try and crank it to 10/10 but you'd only make it to, say, 3/10. No matter how hard you push to go further, it won't, your non weapon form is not meant to be a perfect conduit for that kind of power.

This of course still leaves Relics, and Demise as extremely powerful in human form, just not to the point of casually slaughtering nations or possibly even raining Apocalypse on basically everything.

[Axis Asteroid]

So rare but still a few in every generation probably up until the Calamity. Kinda like super billionaires i guess, except this time they shoot lightning, because lightning is best element.

I personally prefer Frost and Ice powers when it comes to that "elemental" Stuff.

Nah. Lighting/electricity is the best. Just watch Index/Railgun to get convinced.

[Nea Videssos]

On another note, how is my app so far?

[Axis Asteroid]

You know, everytime I see your flag, I am reminded of the Iberia player from AltDiv. He was a major Index fan and uses the same picture as profile pic somewhere else.

1850 right? I'm glad I made peace with him before my hiatus. If I had known he was an Index fan then, we could have talked about it some more in the OOC.

[Kollin]

I personally prefer Frost and Ice powers when it comes to that "elemental" Stuff.

Nah. Lighting/electricity is the best. Just watch Index/Railgun to get convinced.

Yes, smite these heretics! Lightning best element!

[Tracian Empire]

This is why i ask questions, i told you i never get balancing right the 1st time.

Well that's why i asked, because it occurred to me if they could, Demise in human form would basically be the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse and then the Apocalypse itself rolled into one very sad trap.

Relics were forged by Gods, typically, right? That does give a lot of leeway for making restrictions, even if you are something that was probably the project of both Gods of War and the guy for Darkness and Death.

When made into a relic, their soul is meant to take the primary form of a weapon, or object, the shapeshifting is a consequence of being magical and very powerful, moreso than they ever could have imagined in life, most likely. I think it then makes a pretty easy segue into a rule where returning to original form, human, Loroi, whatever it is that isn't the weapon you are now meant to be, while comparably effortless for them, limits their throughput potential.

Essentially, think about all of Demise's power that it's wielder can't use because they're the weak link and it would destroy them. Same concept, except when in your normal humanoid form, you can't use your full power, because it's greater than it ever was in life. Instead of being destroyed, you'd just try and crank it to 10/10 but you'd only make it to, say, 3/10. No matter how hard you push to go further, it won't, your non weapon form is not meant to be a perfect conduit for that kind of power.

This of course still leaves Relics, and Demise as extremely powerful in human form, just not to the point of casually slaughtering nations or possibly even raining Apocalypse on basically everything.

I'm cutting your post into half and answering just to this part because I have to go to sleep soon xD

Yeah, Demise would be a pretty powerful relic. But it just occurred to me that I'll have to introduce these restrictions to all relics xD

Relics in this world were created by the humans of the Thyrian Throne. A primordial, extremely advanced human civilization that was destroyed 5000 years ago in the event known as the Calamity. No one knows exactly how they were created, not even the relics themselves (their only memories of that time are pain), but legends say that sacrifices were used, and since all relics have their own personalities and souls, that's generally accepted. It's clear however that they were experiments of sorts, and that also gives me some leeway in regards to what restrictions I could add. They are imperfect weapons, after all.

But yes, that's what I had in mind. All relics have a true weapon form that they are supposed to be in, and they are probably the strongest in that form - but they can not use magic on their own when they are a weapon, only their powers. They have the ability to shapeshift, but since they aren't exactly living beings, they can't easily turn into living beings. There are some restrictions behind the ability of shapeshifting itself that I'll add at some point, but their powers will be limited outside of their weapon form, that's for sure - their human/Loroi bodies would simply be unable to handle that power.

It would still make them pretty powerful in human form, but their powers would be manageable.

[Kollin]

This is why i ask questions, i told you i never get balancing right the 1st time.

Well that's why i asked, because it occurred to me if they could, Demise in human form would basically be the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse and then the Apocalypse itself rolled into one very sad trap.

Relics were forged by Gods, typically, right? That does give a lot of leeway for making restrictions, even if you are something that was probably the project of both Gods of War and the guy for Darkness and Death.

When made into a relic, their soul is meant to take the primary form of a weapon, or object, the shapeshifting is a consequence of being magical and very powerful, moreso than they ever could have imagined in life, most likely. I think it then makes a pretty easy segue into a rule where returning to original form, human, Loroi, whatever it is that isn't the weapon you are now meant to be, while comparably effortless for them, limits their throughput potential.

Essentially, think about all of Demise's power that it's wielder can't use because they're the weak link and it would destroy them. Same concept, except when in your normal humanoid form, you can't use your full power, because it's greater than it ever was in life. Instead of being destroyed, you'd just try and crank it to 10/10 but you'd only make it to, say, 3/10. No matter how hard you push to go further, it won't, your non weapon form is not meant to be a perfect conduit for that kind of power.

This of course still leaves Relics, and Demise as extremely powerful in human form, just not to the point of casually slaughtering nations or possibly even raining Apocalypse on basically everything.

I'm cutting your post into half and answering just to this part because I have to go to sleep soon xD

Yeah, Demise would be a pretty powerful relic. But it just occurred to me that I'll have to introduce these restrictions to all relics xD

Relics in this world were created by the humans of the Thyrian Throne. A primordial, extremely advanced human civilization that was destroyed 5000 years ago in the event known as the Calamity. No one knows exactly how they were created, not even the relics themselves (their only memories of that time are pain), but legends say that sacrifices were used, and since all relics have their own personalities and souls, that's generally accepted. It's clear however that they were experiments of sorts, and that also gives me some leeway in regards to what restrictions I could add. They are imperfect weapons, after all.

But yes, that's what I had in mind. All relics have a true weapon form that they are supposed to be in, and they are probably the strongest in that form - but they can not use magic on their own when they are a weapon, only their powers. They have the ability to shapeshift, but since they aren't exactly living beings, they can't easily turn into living beings. There are some restrictions behind the ability of shapeshifting itself that I'll add at some point, but their powers will be limited outside of their weapon form, that's for sure - their human/Loroi bodies would simply be unable to handle that power.

It would still make them pretty powerful in human form, but their powers would be manageable.

More like a mid-level boss instead of an End-Game final boss kinda thing.

I should re read the lore now that it isnt 3AM, to be honest with you. Demise's imperfection is lack of versatility, technically you can use it to amplify any magic, but it's really meant for destroying things. Also, human/loroi form could be useful sometimes, which he refuses to enter anyway, so that could also be an issue.

[Tracian Empire]

On another note, how is my app so far?

I haven't been able to read it so far, but knowing your apps, there shouldn't be any issues xD

[Tracian Empire]

I'm cutting your post into half and answering just to this part because I have to go to sleep soon xD

Yeah, Demise would be a pretty powerful relic. But it just occurred to me that I'll have to introduce these restrictions to all relics xD

Relics in this world were created by the humans of the Thyrian Throne. A primordial, extremely advanced human civilization that was destroyed 5000 years ago in the event known as the Calamity. No one knows exactly how they were created, not even the relics themselves (their only memories of that time are pain), but legends say that sacrifices were used, and since all relics have their own personalities and souls, that's generally accepted. It's clear however that they were experiments of sorts, and that also gives me some leeway in regards to what restrictions I could add. They are imperfect weapons, after all.

But yes, that's what I had in mind. All relics have a true weapon form that they are supposed to be in, and they are probably the strongest in that form - but they can not use magic on their own when they are a weapon, only their powers. They have the ability to shapeshift, but since they aren't exactly living beings, they can't easily turn into living beings. There are some restrictions behind the ability of shapeshifting itself that I'll add at some point, but their powers will be limited outside of their weapon form, that's for sure - their human/Loroi bodies would simply be unable to handle that power.

It would still make them pretty powerful in human form, but their powers would be manageable.

More like a mid-level boss instead of an End-Game final boss kinda thing.

I should re read the lore now that it isnt 3AM, to be honest with you. Demise's imperfection is lack of versatility, technically you can use it to amplify any magic, but it's really meant for destroying things. Also, human/loroi form could be useful sometimes, which he refuses to enter anyway, so that could also be an issue.

That does sound a lot better xD

Well, to be honest, you wouldn't have much to read - the lore on relics is still far away from being done. For some reason, I simply forgot about that part of the lore that I had to write, and I noticed it a few days ago. I'll probably add a more comprehensive part about the relics during the weekend.

But still, me forgetting about the relic lore is kinda ironic, considering that I seem to have the most relic characters so far. My Celio's scythe, Krypta, and Rafal's sword that still lacks a proper name, and is only known as the Jagged Blade.

But those two are kinda my characters, and since I also control characters that I'll never have the time to make apps for (and I'm using them as NPC's of sorts), I'll also have the relics of two of the Seven Heroes, the lance of light of Princess Alexis and the sword of lighting of the Prince of Xerena.

[Tracian Empire]

So yeah...I'm kinda right now and the obvious culprit behind that sickness is surely my crass Computer consumption hence why my access is kinda restricted right now.

Kinda.. ill, or something?

I'm sorry to hear about that. I hope you'll feel better