The Precedent of the United States: 2052 Election RP [OOC]

[New Cobastheia]

Hey Vienna, based on the population projections your using, do you know if the US is Minority-Majority at this point? Just wondering cause I was looking it up and most of the sources I looked at said it would happen in the early 2040's, so just wondering if that's how it is with this timeline.

[Vienna Eliot]

Hey Vienna, based on the population projections your using, do you know if the US is Minority-Majority at this point? Just wondering cause I was looking it up and most of the sources I looked at said it would happen in the early 2040's, so just wondering if that's how it is with this timeline.

Yes — 56% minority. The 2052 U.S. population is 500,176,977. It breaks down as follows:

White: 219,139,917
Hispanic: 167,135,260
Black: 60,200,136
Asian: 44,884,659
Other: 8,817,005

[New Cobastheia]

Oh and I'm also just wondering what Economic Class is Egilson in, also any idea which one he grew up in? Plus, has he revealed this to the public, I was just gonna assume he has because of transparency.

[Zjaum]

Oh and I'm also just wondering what Economic Class is Egilson in, also any idea which one he grew up in? Plus, has he revealed this to the public, I was just gonna assume he has because of transparency.

Relatively, probably upper middle class if not straight-up one percent. Considering that Red Bluff is the boondocks of California, though, that probably just means anywhere from lower middle to upper middle, relative to the rest of the country.

[Helowi]

When are new polls gonna be up?

[Vienna Eliot]

I’m having a breakdown folks, I’m sorry. This is bad practice as an OP but I have to put the roleplay on hiatus for one week. I will shift the dates in the OP when I get the chance, and we will keep roleplaying on July 5th. Please enjoy your Independence Day! Sorry about this.

[Helowi]

I’m having a breakdown folks, I’m sorry. This is bad practice as an OP but I have to put the roleplay on hiatus for one week. I will shift the dates in the OP when I get the chance, and we will keep roleplaying on July 5th. Please enjoy your Independence Day! Sorry about this.

It’s alright, take as much time as you need to.

[Helowi]

Are we starting back up soon?

[Zjaum]

Happy belated Fourth of July, everyone! 242 years might not seem like a significant birthday, but... well... at least it's old!

[New Cobastheia]

Only 8 more years til it's 250 though, so we have that to look forward to.

I'm also wondering if we're gonna start back up soon, but of course, your mental health would take precedent

[Vienna Eliot]

Let's get this going again — and of course, happy Fourth! Let's keep it going for at least 34 more years.

I'm going to put up polls and two forecasts tonight, plus some news tomorrow. Vice presidential debate next week.

[New Cobastheia]

Now I really need to get a post up as Victoria, I've wanted to for a long time but I'm not really sure on how I should introduce her.

[New Cobastheia]

I feel like I ask at least one question per day on this thread for some context on what the world is like, but anyways...
So is the Cabinet still the same?
And by that I mean, are all the Departments still Departments, are there any new Departments, have any of the Departments been Dissolved‎? Stuff like that?

[Helowi]

Also, how many electoral votes are needed to win?

[New Cobastheia]

Also, how many electoral votes are needed to win?

As long as no new states have been added or DC was granted more with a constitutional amendment it should still just be 270

"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector." - Article II, Section 1, Clause 2

The house is permanently fixed at 435, and then every state has 2 senators, and then DC get the same number of electors as the state will the lowest number of electors, which will always be 3, so it should still be 538.

All states (except Maine (But not Maine de facto because they only have 1 district in 2052) and Nebraska) say their electors have to vote for who won the plurality of the vote statewide (For the 2 states above they allocate 2 votes statewide and 1 vote each for the rest for each district)

But then again, in most states, in our modern day, electors can vote for whoever they want when all the electors sit down and only pay a fee at most, if anything.

And then you get into the whole mess in case of a 269/269 spilt or when none of the top 3 get 270. The vote for the President goes to the new House (Where each state gets 1 vote (So 1 representative gets as much of a say as the majority of 70 reps do in choosing the next President) and the vote for Vice President goes to the Senate, where each Senator gets a vote.

If a President can't be decided by Inauguration Day, the new Vice President becomes Acting President and if no President or Vice President gets found, the Speaker of the House becomes Acting President until someone is elected by Congress.

Welcome to America. (If you don't live in the US)

PS - Why did you think Guess is against the Electoral College?

[Helowi]

Also, how many electoral votes are needed to win?

As long as no new states have been added or DC was granted more with a constitutional amendment it should still just be 270

"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector." - Article II, Section 1, Clause 2

The house is permanently fixed at 435, and then every state has 2 senators, and then DC get the same number of electors as the state will the lowest number of electors, which will always be 3, so it should still be 538.

All states (except Maine (But not Maine de facto because they only have 1 district in 2052) and Nebraska) say their electors have to vote for who won the plurality of the vote statewide (For the 2 states above they allocate 2 votes statewide and 1 vote each for the rest for each district)

But then again, in most states, in our modern day, electors can vote for whoever they want when all the electors sit down and only pay a fee at most, if anything.

And then you get into the whole mess in case of a 269/269 spilt or when none of the top 3 get 270. The vote for the President goes to the new House (Where each state gets 1 vote (So 1 representative gets as much of a say as the majority of 70 reps do in choosing the next President) and the vote for Vice President goes to the Senate, where each Senator gets a vote.

If a President can't be decided by Inauguration Day, the new Vice President becomes Acting President and if no President or Vice President gets found, the Speaker of the House becomes Acting President until someone is elected by Congress.

Welcome to America. (If you don't live in the US)

PS - Why did you think Guess is against the Electoral College?

Ok, I was being a bit dumb for a second. I was looking at the FiveThirtyEight map and didn’t know the White States were already allocated to the candidates. My mistake.

I have no idea why I said that Guess was against it. I just thought that Guess sort of had a personality type that sort of was against the electoral college. Well, you can still use it against me if you feel like it.

[New Cobastheia]

Ok, I was being a bit dumb for a second. I was looking at the FiveThirtyEight map and didn’t know the White States were already allocated to the candidates. My mistake.

I have no idea why I said that Guess was against it. I just thought that Guess sort of had a personality type that sort of was against the electoral college. Well, you can still use it against me if you feel like it.

Wait, I'm confused now, as far as I knew, Guess was the bring up his first his against-ness for the electoral college, and if you were, well you thought right. Guess is for an IRV election for President, as well as STV/IRV for Congress.

[Sperio]

Mako Rutledge - Democrat

Account Name: Sperio
Occupation: Australian Ambassador
Political Ideology: A independent view on democratic leadership

Family: Martha Rutledge (wife)
Background: as a young street boy in the city of Melbourne, Mako had to learn quick about suffering and how to avoid it. During his freshman year of college. He met a young Jamieson Faulks, a high school jounior in danger of failing. He took him under his wing and helped him succeed. He eventually met Martha, the love of his life. But on day it all changed when Britain launched an attack on the outback. War was declared and mako formed the Melbourne Resistance. That won the Battle of Sydney. He eventually moved to America and became the Australian ambassador.
Faith: None

Strengths: Politacal knowledge and military experience
Weaknesses: Hot Head And a grudge against the UN

Miscellaneous Vice President is Jamieson

[Helowi]

Ok, I was being a bit dumb for a second. I was looking at the FiveThirtyEight map and didn’t know the White States were already allocated to the candidates. My mistake.

I have no idea why I said that Guess was against it. I just thought that Guess sort of had a personality type that sort of was against the electoral college. Well, you can still use it against me if you feel like it.

Wait, I'm confused now, as far as I knew, Guess was the bring up his first his against-ness for the electoral college, and if you were, well you thought right. Guess is for an IRV election for President, as well as STV/IRV for Congress.

Yeah I was being dumb. Thank you for pointing out my mistake though.

[Helowi]

Mako Rutledge - Democrat

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Account Name: Sperio
Occupation: Australian Ambassador
Political Ideology: A independent view on democratic leadership

Family: Martha Rutledge (wife)
Background: as a young street boy in the city of Melbourne, Mako had to learn quick about suffering and how to avoid it. During his freshman year of college. He met a young Jamieson Faulks, a high school jounior in danger of failing. He took him under his wing and helped him succeed. He eventually met Martha, the love of his life. But on day it all changed when Britain launched an attack on the outback. War was declared and mako formed the Melbourne Resistance. That won the Battle of Sydney. He eventually moved to America and became the Australian ambassador.
Faith: None

Strengths: Politacal knowledge and military experience
Weaknesses: Hot Head And a grudge against the UN

Miscellaneous Vice President is Jamieson

I think you’re a tad bit late to this.

[New Cobastheia]

Vienna, I was just wondering if Guess and Koons (and maybe Fischer too) could have a conversation on a possible impeachment of a Justice. Guess would probably like to push an argument that it's a High Crime for 5 people to destroy a system millions have democratically voted to live under or a Misdemeanor to show a partisan bias on an election year where the thing they are voting on directly affects the candidates and could affect their chances in the polls.

Even though I doubt it would ever get past the House Judiciary Committee because it's a Republican Controlled House, but you know, politics

Also, don't bother this that Cabinet Question I asked about if you don't feel like it, I was thinking of proposing a Department of Rural Affairs and then I found out the Department of Agriculture handles that stuff.

[Vienna Eliot]

Going to post some news tonight.

Vienna, I was just wondering if Guess and Koons (and maybe Fischer too) could have a conversation on a possible impeachment of a Justice. Guess would probably like to push an argument that it's a High Crime for 5 people to destroy a system millions have democratically voted to live under or a Misdemeanor to show a partisan bias on an election year where the thing they are voting on directly affects the candidates and could affect their chances in the polls.

Even though I doubt it would ever get past the House Judiciary Committee because it's a Republican Controlled House, but you know, politics

Also, don't bother this that Cabinet Question I asked about if you don't feel like it, I was thinking of proposing a Department of Rural Affairs and then I found out the Department of Agriculture handles that stuff.

That'd be a great thing to do — I'll make a post soon with the White House preparing for Guess and Koons to arrive. Perhaps Guess and Koons already discussed it and are looking for support from the administration?

On the Cabinet — it's true that Trump merged Labor and Education. This was, of course, much to the chagrin of Democrats, who campaigned on restoring the two Departments, which Graham did in her first hundred days in office. Despite some rumors that Comey might nix the Department of Homeland Security, and Fischer's near-constant disagreement with his second Secretary of State, the Cabinet departments in 2052 look the same as they did at the end of 2017. In terms of composition, despite being majority-Democrat, it's the most bipartisan Cabinet in history, with a record number of independents — 9 Democrats, 4 Republicans, and 2 independents.

[New Cobastheia]

Going to post some news tonight.

Vienna, I was just wondering if Guess and Koons (and maybe Fischer too) could have a conversation on a possible impeachment of a Justice. Guess would probably like to push an argument that it's a High Crime for 5 people to destroy a system millions have democratically voted to live under or a Misdemeanor to show a partisan bias on an election year where the thing they are voting on directly affects the candidates and could affect their chances in the polls.

Even though I doubt it would ever get past the House Judiciary Committee because it's a Republican Controlled House, but you know, politics

Also, don't bother this that Cabinet Question I asked about if you don't feel like it, I was thinking of proposing a Department of Rural Affairs and then I found out the Department of Agriculture handles that stuff.

That'd be a great thing to do — I'll make a post soon with the White House preparing for Guess and Koons to arrive. Perhaps Guess and Koons already discussed it and are looking for support from the administration?

On the Cabinet — it's true that Trump merged Labor and Education. This was, of course, much to the chagrin of Democrats, who campaigned on restoring the two Departments, which Graham did in her first hundred days in office. Despite some rumors that Comey might nix the Department of Homeland Security, and Fischer's near-constant disagreement with his second Secretary of State, the Cabinet departments in 2052 look the same as they did at the end of 2017. In terms of composition, despite being majority-Democrat, it's the most bipartisan Cabinet in history, with a record number of independents — 9 Democrats, 4 Republicans, and 2 independents.

Can Guess and Koons bring with them a Representative, let's call her Isabella Cortez-Luna (R or L preferably) from California's 8th District, who's agreed with the two and would be willing to introduce the articles of impeachment?

[Vienna Eliot]

Going to post some news tonight.


That'd be a great thing to do — I'll make a post soon with the White House preparing for Guess and Koons to arrive. Perhaps Guess and Koons already discussed it and are looking for support from the administration?

On the Cabinet — it's true that Trump merged Labor and Education. This was, of course, much to the chagrin of Democrats, who campaigned on restoring the two Departments, which Graham did in her first hundred days in office. Despite some rumors that Comey might nix the Department of Homeland Security, and Fischer's near-constant disagreement with his second Secretary of State, the Cabinet departments in 2052 look the same as they did at the end of 2017. In terms of composition, despite being majority-Democrat, it's the most bipartisan Cabinet in history, with a record number of independents — 9 Democrats, 4 Republicans, and 2 independents.

Can Guess and Koons bring with them a Representative, let's call her Isabella Cortez-Luna (R or L preferably) from California's 8th District, who's agreed with the two and would be willing to introduce the articles of impeachment?

Sure thing — that will certainly thicken the plot if there's right-wing support.

[New Cobastheia]

I was going to start reading the post

And then I saw September

And then I went a little bit crazy for a second because I was under the impression we would be in like mid-August when in reality we're almost in October...

So, I'm gonna go back and read the rest of that post now.