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Ascysia
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Postby Ascysia » Fri May 18, 2018 3:54 pm

Helowi wrote:What time will the Iowa Primary Start?

Probably after OP does a post re: the debate.
IC was quiet today, I'll post tomorrow.
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Fri May 18, 2018 4:46 pm

Helowi wrote:What time will the Iowa Primary Start?

I’m going to post a news article about the debate later tonight, and then a little bit after that post the results.

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Postby Vienna Eliot » Fri May 18, 2018 8:45 pm

The Iowa Caucus results have been posted. Sorry about not posting much — I've been busy today. The debates were factored into the results.

You have my word that I will make future results releases more interesting than just posting them! Today was an exception.

edit: One more thing — delegate totals. I'm going to use the allocations for 2016. This isn't ideal, but it will make it possible for everyone to look them up and strategize based on them; calculating them myself would require a lot of worldbuilding on my part that is best left to the roleplay as a whole (for instance, how a state swung in 2048, or what the party of each governor is).

edit edit: I'm going to modify totals a little bit, based on how population has shifted.
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Postby Zjaum » Fri May 18, 2018 11:22 pm

Considering that none of our quotes were used for the most recent debate, could we reuse some of them for the next debate?
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Sat May 19, 2018 5:02 am

Zjaum wrote:Considering that none of our quotes were used for the most recent debate, could we reuse some of them for the next debate?

Yes.

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Postby Vienna Eliot » Sun May 20, 2018 1:42 pm

I'm going to push the New Hampshire primaries back by one day, to the 22nd, if there are no objections. I'll have a few news articles up tonight and the revised delegate allocation for each state.

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Postby Cainesland » Sun May 20, 2018 1:54 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:I'm going to push the New Hampshire primaries back by one day, to the 22nd, if there are no objections. I'll have a few news articles up tonight and the revised delegate allocation for each state.


Sounds fine. I will probably try and get a post out tomorrow.

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Postby New Cobastheia » Sun May 20, 2018 2:53 pm

Vienna Eliot wrote:I'm going to push the New Hampshire primaries back by one day, to the 22nd, if there are no objections. I'll have a few news articles up tonight and the revised delegate allocation for each state.

I that going to include Guess in it? You never got back to me on that telegram
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Sun May 20, 2018 3:14 pm

New Cobastheia wrote:
Vienna Eliot wrote:I'm going to push the New Hampshire primaries back by one day, to the 22nd, if there are no objections. I'll have a few news articles up tonight and the revised delegate allocation for each state.

I that going to include Guess in it? You never got back to me on that telegram

The NH primary will include Guess.

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Postby Helowi » Sun May 20, 2018 4:40 pm

Just posted a schedule.
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Sun May 20, 2018 8:01 pm

StateDelegates
Alabama41
Alaska16
Arizona95
Arkansas27
California322
Colorado73
Connecticut47
Delaware21
District of Columbia20
Florida229
Georgia108
Hawaii25
Idaho23
Illinois156
Indiana68
Iowa37
Kansas28
Kentucky48
Louisiana45
Maine19
Maryland95
Massachusetts91
Michigan106
Minnesota69
Mississippi30
Missouri57
Montana21
Nebraska20
Nevada58
New Hampshire24
New Jersey144
New Mexico34
New York230
North Carolina107
North Dakota18
Ohio111
Oklahoma33
Oregon61
Pennsylvania142
Rhode Island18
South Carolina47
South Dakota20
Tennessee55
Texas263
Utah33
Vermont16
Virginia95
Washington101
West Virginia23
Wisconsin77
Wyoming14
American Samoa6
Virgin Islands7
Puerto Rico60
Northern Marianas6
Democrats Abroad13
Guam7

StateDelegates
Alabama39
Alaska28
Arizona74
Arkansas33
California225
Colorado41
Connecticut24
Delaware16
District of Columbia19
Florida106
Georgia81
Hawaii19
Idaho32
Illinois69
Indiana47
Iowa25
Kansas33
Kentucky40
Louisiana40
Maine17
Maryland38
Massachusetts42
Michigan48
Minnesota34
Mississippi33
Missouri42
Montana27
Nebraska29
Nevada50
New Hampshire23
New Jersey58
New Mexico24
New York88
North Carolina72
North Dakota26
Ohio51
Oklahoma37
Oregon28
Pennsylvania53
Rhode Island14
South Carolina44
South Dakota29
Tennessee47
Texas184
Utah40
Vermont16
Virginia49
Washington44
West Virginia27
Wisconsin38
Wyoming29
American Samoa9
U.S. Virgin Islands9
Puerto Rico23
Northern Mariana Is.9
Guam9
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Postby Vodenheim » Mon May 21, 2018 10:55 am

Just wanna state for full disclosure I'm going to mudsling at everyone's candidate, my character's going to be an asshole about it, but if your character is an extension of you and I think everyone's is to some degree I'm not trying to attack you as a person just char. So again it's an rp I'm rping char I wanna to apologize in advance for the douchebagery to come. If you want me to tone it down I will just ask. Thanks! :)
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Postby New Cobastheia » Mon May 21, 2018 12:04 pm

Vodenheim wrote:Just wanna state for full disclosure I'm going to mudsling at everyone's candidate, my character's going to be an asshole about it, but if your character is an extension of you and I think everyone's is to some degree I'm not trying to attack you as a person just char. So again it's an rp I'm rping char I wanna to apologize in advance for the doubagery to come. If you want me to tone it down I will just ask. Thanks! :)

And then he doesn't even mention Guess by name, and is only like get rid of the Premier.

Which is like, I know it's politics and all, but does anyone actually know why the title is Premier, both in the IC and OOC?
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Postby Vodenheim » Mon May 21, 2018 12:26 pm

New Cobastheia wrote:
Vodenheim wrote:Just wanna state for full disclosure I'm going to mudsling at everyone's candidate, my character's going to be an asshole about it, but if your character is an extension of you and I think everyone's is to some degree I'm not trying to attack you as a person just char. So again it's an rp I'm rping char I wanna to apologize in advance for the doubagery to come. If you want me to tone it down I will just ask. Thanks! :)

And then he doesn't even mention Guess by name, and is only like get rid of the Premier.

Which is like, I know it's politics and all, but does anyone actually know why the title is Premier, both in the IC and OOC?

I did that for a reason, to make him sound amateurish and brutish. But, I kinda understood why the name change in Cali happened but then again I don't understand fully how or why it happened. If you can elaborate or point me to where you explained how Guess manage to change the title I'd appreciate it.

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Postby New Cobastheia » Mon May 21, 2018 12:59 pm

Vodenheim wrote:
New Cobastheia wrote:And then he doesn't even mention Guess by name, and is only like get rid of the Premier.

Which is like, I know it's politics and all, but does anyone actually know why the title is Premier, both in the IC and OOC?

I did that for a reason, to make him sound amateurish and brutish. But, I kinda understood why the name change in Cali happened but then again I don't understand fully how or why it happened. If you can elaborate or point me to where you explained how Guess manage to change the title I'd appreciate it.


Oh, I don't mind elaborated at all, you're not the first person to go Guess = Soviet.

Ok, so in our current times there is a few people who want to ditch the current constitution of California, it's not a major movement currently though. So then, while I'm world building I made it so a Republican wins the Governorship in 2038 because of the top-2 system and spoiler effect, and because this is California, the Governor wasn't all that well liked and the result of the election ended up being what was needed to push for a new Constitution in California.

In 2042, Guess ran after a lot of people signed a petition to get him to run, he won and started up the process of Constitutional Convention. It being a convention and him being a Governor who prefers Parliamentary Systems, he fought for it in the Convention and it was settled on that. But then the Senate of California was all like, "We don't want to be abolished!" Which lead to a Semi-Parliamentary System and a 200 member unicameral legislator in California called the California Parliament. Then the Third California Constitution got approved by, I think in the Congress needs to approve it so ya. But because people like to dissent, the Constitution is currently in Court because the OP said so and I was like, that makes sense and I don't know much about the US Court System.

Vienna Eliot wrote:Additionally, this constitutional change would of course come with its fair share of dissenters. Consequently, it will have been in court for the past couple of years — first in California state courts, which eventually refused to hear the case, then working its way up through the federal courts on U.S. Constitutional grounds (Article IV and 14th Amendment), and to the Supreme Court, which in 2050 remanded it back to Federal District Court for concerns of justiciability. Now, Circuit Court deliberations have concluded recently and an opinion will be issued soon, after which it may again go to the Supreme Court.


Ok and then on to why he's a Premier and not like a Governor or Prime Minister. Not Governor because I couldn't find a single Parliamentary System that titles in Sub-national heads of government, Governor. Not Prime Minister because that's like the person in charge of the Federal Government, not State Governments. Yes Premier because it turns out like every Sub-National Leader under Parliamentary Systems in the English Speaking world, besides in the UK, is titled Premier. Just looked up Premier of British Columbia, or Western Cape, or New South Wales.
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Postby New Cobastheia » Mon May 21, 2018 6:51 pm

Firaxin wrote:
New Cobastheia wrote:Ok, so the link is now this

Link updated with Hastings

So, does anyone else want keep up with the Political Compass chart?
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Postby Ascysia » Wed May 23, 2018 5:29 am

Sorry for my lack of activity, I've been busy the past few days dealing with visas and such.
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Postby Helowi » Wed May 23, 2018 2:31 pm

Will the results for New Hampshire be tonight?
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Wed May 23, 2018 6:15 pm

Sorry all, my computer broke down for two days. I will post news articles and NH primary results tomorrow, and shift Minnesota, South Dakota, Maine, Vermont, and Wyoming to Super Tuesday. Let all return to normal.

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Postby Cainesland » Wed May 23, 2018 8:12 pm

Will we be getting a telegram for New Hampshire as well?

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Postby Helowi » Thu May 24, 2018 5:12 pm

Slow week I’m guessing.
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Postby New Cobastheia » Thu May 24, 2018 5:33 pm

Helowi wrote:Slow week I’m guessing.

Ya, I have alot of stuff IRL going on this week. Mainly just waiting for New Hampshire to be released to write some more stuff I have planned out in my head in the IC
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Postby Helowi » Thu May 24, 2018 7:39 pm

Are you gonna post the results tonight?
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Vienna Eliot
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Postby Vienna Eliot » Thu May 24, 2018 7:42 pm

Helowi wrote:Are you gonna post the results tonight?

Yes, typing them now.

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Postby Zjaum » Thu May 24, 2018 11:43 pm

I will post early tomorrow. Happy Memorial Day weekend, everyone! Try and get some rest, and remember all those who have fallen to... gosh, we really haven't had a threat to the United States in 150 years, have we? Well, remember all those who have fallen to make American culture one of the most prominent in the world (I guess)!
I use my NationStates stats, because a population of billions/trillions and an economy of hundreds of trillions is totally viable, trust me.
But seriously, aside from the population and GDP, just assume that my NS stats are roughly accurate.

Support: Paleo-imperialism, conservatism, libertarianism, Christianity.
Against: Stupid people, resistance to industrial progress, alt-right, any form of government at or beyond socialism.

I hail from The League of Conservative Nations. Hearts unthawed, hearts unshaken!

Takaka Tar' Turayi,
The stars will be ours someday.

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