Rostavykhan wrote:
New/redone Hecate. Sort of felt like doing it instead of just carrying over the old one. Maybe They could be separate characters down the line? Or something. That would take some nifty justification. Anyways, was going for "that one Wiccan kid" thing, I dunno.
Also, went with a reference image of Lotte because, well, have you tried looking for a decent image or piece of media related to a traditional witch in an anime or comic style, that isn't an older woman? Shit's like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Google is not my friend, nor are any other sites I know to look. I digress, anyways.
Oh! Oh shit! Also, I can edit, remove, add to, or do whatever you need with this. It's more of a rough app IMO anyways, but if it works, I works. I was wanting to just have something finished and put out by tonight, since I'm impatient and whatnot. I think I could maybe specify and rework her abilities if need be, remove or go into detail with bits and pieces if you think something might need it. I think something might be a bit off with her, so if I have to tone down or rework abilities, I'll take supportive powers over offensive.
I tend to overthink and then do too much sometimes, when it comes to apps. At least I have something to work with now. Anyways, I'll wait for your reply. Gotta clean up and do other RL stuff in the meantime.
Luminesa wrote:Arventum wrote:Oh, someone seems to have corrupted Hekate beyond recognition, and turned her into a weird Wiccan teenager...
How unfortunate, and quite offensive to, you know, actual Wiccans and other witches who aren't into being portrayed stereotypically.
1.) Are you an actual Wiccan?
2.) Being a “weird Wiccan teenager” is offense to actual Wiccan teenagers?
3.) How is Hecate being portrayed stereotypically?
4.) Instead of being passive-aggressive, why don’t you discuss with Tori what bugs you about the character? That way we can have a healthy resolution.
1.) I'm an actual witch, yes. Wiccans aren't the only witches, and just portraying Hecate in any manner that even implies she is only for Wiccans is offensive.
2.) Uhm, yeah. Hekate is the most respected Pagan Goddess on the planet, equal to Isis in how beloved she is.
3.) Firstly, she is the Mother of Angels. She isn't the Goddess of "Wicca"... th-that, no. Tori left out the Triple Goddess aspect, something more modern but very necessary. Hekate doesn't have any clear goals, like she did in the mythos. The weird, eccentric, manic, moon-focused character that is kind of basically all over the place is blatantly stereotypical. It's just... we're not unstable, and we don't like the foundation of modern paganism being displayed in a way other than what she is deserving of.
4.) Firstly, Tori turned Hecate into a maniac, bipolar character that, instead of actually having a personality, seems to be just what is wanted to be RPed at the moment.
Then there's the fact that Hekate doesn't even have most of her spheres of control or dominions. She has more than half a dozen spheres of control, and is a consort of the Underworld and Rustic Gods, especially Demeter and Persephone, and is a consort of Hermes - who is just outright her counterpart in several areas - as well.
She is the daughter of Perses and Asteria, making her born of starlight and destruction. She possesses the right to the mandate of heaven, and could very well sit on the throne if she wished to unseat Zeus. She's /stronger/ than Zeus, than Hades, than Poseidon, combined. She is exceedingly wondrous. The 'night owl' - Hekate shouldn't be portrated as a night owl. That's just taking the "moon stuff" too far. Greek deities like her, who are elusive and incapable of being properly defined as the usual deity, don't yield to simple things below them such as day and night.
Hekate isn't antisocial, and never is timid. She is confident, has control over herself, and is one of the most outgoing deities in the mythos. She is quite mighty in that manner, and has a distinct personality, is somewhat motherly, and this is displayed in everything from her seeking revenge, to siding with the Olympians, to bickering/having a hate on for Zeus after he... uh did stuff to one of her friends, to, without even a moment of doubt or hesitance, using her mystic torches to light the path for Demeter as they sought out Persephone. She is not a Goddess that can be portrayed as having no direction, as having no substance - having all of these random personality traits crammed into her is, frankly, disturbing, and very few of them are recognized as canonical by any branch of witches whom believes in Hekate.