Traveller's Cafe 4: Brainstorming, Discussion, Tea, Advice

[Nazi-Roma]

I don't usually comment here, but I lurk often enough.

Since the Andromeda group RPs were recently mentioned and Discord seems to be a common theme here as of late, I'll add a dissenting opinion, since I co-op for a few of the RPs and I'm the most active mod in the discord. I personally don't think we would be as successful without it. It's really helped us build a community through the fact that the discord isn't limited on topic, which, as mentioned before, is key to longevity

To back this up, our least successful RP, The Endless Knot, had the least proportion of players who joined also join the discord. I'm not going to say that it has helped with the immediate short-term attrition because I simply don't have the data to back it, but I do think I can say that it has helped keep a core player base involved. And perhaps Knot's failure was a result of certain players actions rather than the proportion active on Discord (though for reference, they did not join the discord).

Oh that's nonesense. If you aren't going to have an NS RP with just NSers, then what's the point of having the RP on NS, huh? Does the Mafia still call itself the Mafia if it's not purely Italian?

[Europa Undivided]

I don't usually comment here, but I lurk often enough.

Since the Andromeda group RPs were recently mentioned and Discord seems to be a common theme here as of late, I'll add a dissenting opinion, since I co-op for a few of the RPs and I'm the most active mod in the discord. I personally don't think we would be as successful without it. It's really helped us build a community through the fact that the discord isn't limited on topic, which, as mentioned before, is key to longevity

To back this up, our least successful RP, The Endless Knot, had the least proportion of players who joined also join the discord. I'm not going to say that it has helped with the immediate short-term attrition because I simply don't have the data to back it, but I do think I can say that it has helped keep a core player base involved. And perhaps Knot's failure was a result of certain players actions rather than the proportion active on Discord (though for reference, they did not join the discord).

Oh that's bullshit. If you aren't going to have an NS RP with just NSers, then what's the point of having the RP on NS, huh? Does the Mafia still call itself the Mafia if it's not purely good-Roman stock Italian? If it's filled with other guys like the Irish or Jews, then what's the point of calling it Cosa Nostra?

Oh that's bullshit

Hear, hear, an argument backed by facts has been finished by a a single curse. We should get you a parade, with the jesters and clowns and fireworks and everything else.

If you aren't going to have an NS RP with just NSers

We're literally all NSers. How else are we posting in threads here?

good-Roman stock Italian

Of course, Nazi-Roma. The name tells us everything we need to know.

I don't see the point of being a site purist, especially since having an active Discord is exactly why the Andromeda verse RPs have stayed on for so long and will remain so for some time.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Hm, okay.

I'm not a fan of the whole treating Nationstates like it's some sort of nation that needs to be kept racially pure or something, it's an internet forum, not an ethnicity.

But, at the same time, I'm a big fan of ISOT RPs, so I'm willing to join in on any planning. Especially since this will be one based around having Nationstates nations being ISOTed, something I haven't seen before (note I'm not saying I support the RP based on the fact that it's "NSers for NS" or whatever other Ultranationalist Rhetoric you come up with, I'm saying I haven't seen an RP where the sole focus is having nations created in the NS setting interact).

Whether the OOC is discussed on NS or the OOC is discussed on Discord, eh whatever. What matters to me is that the IC RPing takes place in NS. Besides that, whatever, y'know, who cares how people talk to each outside of the IC? I don't.

Oh for pete's sakes, look at this bloody gaijin. I saw your goddamn app on that OTHER rp. What, you think you can suddenly just infiltrate our ranks like the slime you are?

Why don't you go back to your nice lil' discord server where you can post your dumbass emojis to each other like a bunch of lazy egotistical teenagers in that stupid thing you call rping? and let the real rpiers actually rp. Don't need your kind stinking up the conversation. Damn hypocrite.

...wat?

You realise we're talking about Nationstates right? An internet forum where RPs take place?

Right?


No need to suddenly turn into an Ultranationalist over it or, ironically, a Nazi in your case I suppose.

[Europa Undivided]

Oh for pete's sakes, look at this bloody gaijin. I saw your goddamn app on that OTHER rp. What, you think you can suddenly just infiltrate our ranks like the slime you are?

Why don't you go back to your nice lil' discord server where you can post your dumbass emojis to each other like a bunch of lazy egotistical teenagers in that stupid thing you call rping? and let the real rpiers actually rp. Don't need your kind stinking up the conversation. Damn hypocrite.

...wat?

You realise we're talking about Nationstates right? An internet forum where RPs take place?

Right?


No need to suddenly turn into an Ultranationalist over it or, ironically, a Nazi in your case I suppose.

Kids these days, no?

[Bingellia]

...wat?

You realise we're talking about Nationstates right? An internet forum where RPs take place?

Right?
(Image)

No need to suddenly turn into an Ultranationalist over it or, ironically, a Nazi in your case I suppose.

I recommend we simply ignore him.

[Nazi-Roma]

Oh that's bullshit. If you aren't going to have an NS RP with just NSers, then what's the point of having the RP on NS, huh? Does the Mafia still call itself the Mafia if it's not purely good-Roman stock Italian? If it's filled with other guys like the Irish or Jews, then what's the point of calling it Cosa Nostra?

Oh that's bullshit

Hear, hear, an argument backed by facts has been finished by a a single curse. We should get you a parade, with the jesters and clowns and fireworks and everything else.

If you aren't going to have an NS RP with just NSers

We're literally all NSers. How else are we posting in threads here?

good-Roman stock Italian

Of course, Nazi-Roma. The name tells us everything we need to know.

I don't see the point of being a site purist, especially since having an active Discord is exactly why the Andromeda verse RPs have stayed on for so long and will remain so for some time.

What, just because it’s in my name I’m suddenly a Nazi? That’s the problem with outside websiters, they don’t understand the internet culture here and so you just rush to assumptions.

And on longevity, does the God Emperor of Mankind in Warhammer 40k want to be immortal, strapped to a chair? No, sometimes it’s better off that some things die instead of being forced to continue by a bunch of people who think they know best.

Sometimes RPs die, that’s a fact. Sometimes they need to. Sometimes they die too fast. What matters is the soul of the RP its the content. And frankly discord does too much to remove that soul and that content. I want to be able to look back on all the posts easily, without it being filled with mindless drivel.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

...wat?

You realise we're talking about Nationstates right? An internet forum where RPs take place?

Right?
(Image)

No need to suddenly turn into an Ultranationalist over it or, ironically, a Nazi in your case I suppose.

I recommend we simply ignore him.

Yeah, probably

[Europa Undivided]

Hear, hear, an argument backed by facts has been finished by a a single curse. We should get you a parade, with the jesters and clowns and fireworks and everything else.


We're literally all NSers. How else are we posting in threads here?


Of course, Nazi-Roma. The name tells us everything we need to know.

I don't see the point of being a site purist, especially since having an active Discord is exactly why the Andromeda verse RPs have stayed on for so long and will remain so for some time.

What, just because it’s in my name I’m suddenly a Nazi? That’s the problem with you goddamned outside website people, you don’t understand the internet culture here and so you just rush to assumptions.

And on longevity, does the God Emperor of Mankind in Warhammer 40k want to be immortal, strapped to a chair? No, sometimes it’s better off that some things die instead of being forced to continue by a bunch of people who think they know best.

Sometimes RPs die, that’s a fact. Sometimes they need to. Sometimes they die too fast. What matters is the soul of the RP its the content. And frankly discord does too much to remove that soul and that content. I want to be able to look back on all the posts easily, without it being filled with mindless drivel.

So basically you are unable to separate IC posts and OOC discussions. Ok.

[Grenartia]

EU, don't feed.

[New Antarcticania]

Mod is online

[Katganistan]

I don't usually comment here, but I lurk often enough.

Since the Andromeda group RPs were recently mentioned and Discord seems to be a common theme here as of late, I'll add a dissenting opinion, since I co-op for a few of the RPs and I'm the most active mod in the discord. I personally don't think we would be as successful without it. It's really helped us build a community through the fact that the discord isn't limited on topic, which, as mentioned before, is key to longevity

To back this up, our least successful RP, The Endless Knot, had the least proportion of players who joined also join the discord. I'm not going to say that it has helped with the immediate short-term attrition because I simply don't have the data to back it, but I do think I can say that it has helped keep a core player base involved. And perhaps Knot's failure was a result of certain players actions rather than the proportion active on Discord (though for reference, they did not join the discord).

Oh that's bullshit. If you aren't going to have an NS RP with just NSers, then what's the point of having the RP on NS, huh? Does the Mafia still call itself the Mafia if it's not purely good-Roman stock Italian? If it's polluted with other guys like the Irish or Jews, then what's the point of calling it Cosa Nostra?

From this and other posts you've put here, I am going to suggest that you walk away from the keyboard until you can chill out. Racist trolling about gaijin and "pollution" based on ethnicity is absolutely not okay, nor is your aggressive language toward others here.

[Dayganistan]

My biggest gripe with Discord is that I feel it leads to a fracturing of the community, creation of closed groups, and some genres of RP wholesale leaving NS.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

My biggest gripe with Discord is that I feel it leads to a fracturing of the community, creation of closed groups, and some genres of RP wholesale leaving NS.

I agree with the whole fracturing thing and closed groups, but at the same time is that such a terrible thing?

That just means there's a small group of RPiers who are devoted to keeping an RP running, which others can join in at any time.

And which genres are you referring to? I heard "Char RPs" or something some time ago leaving, but not much else.

[Galnius]

My biggest gripe with Discord is that I feel it leads to a fracturing of the community, creation of closed groups, and some genres of RP wholesale leaving NS.

Eh, I've found that those groups existed far before discord. There's even rping groups Council of the Multiverse and others.

[Dayganistan]

I agree with the whole fracturing thing and closed groups, but at the same time is that such a terrible thing?

That just means there's a small group of RPiers who are devoted to keeping an RP running, which others can join in at any time.

And which genres are you referring to? I heard "Char RPs" or something some time ago leaving, but not much else.

Well within character focused RPs, anything that's not superhero or medieval fantasy seems to have more or less left. And well, I haven't really been involved in an RP that hasn't lost steam within days for probably approaching 3 years at this point because I'm just not into that and it's tough to get involved with anything involving my NS nation when a lot of II RPs are spammy one liner fests of people who just want to slam abstract numbers of troops and equipment against each other rather than tell a story.

Eh, I've found that those groups existed far before discord. There's even rping groups Council of the Multiverse and others.

I feel it was easier to join such groups back a couple years because they still mostly existed on NS. I think a lot may have fully transitioned to discord and do their RPing on an offsite forum or something.

[Galnius]

I agree with the whole fracturing thing and closed groups, but at the same time is that such a terrible thing?

That just means there's a small group of RPiers who are devoted to keeping an RP running, which others can join in at any time.

And which genres are you referring to? I heard "Char RPs" or something some time ago leaving, but not much else.

Well within character focused RPs, anything that's not superhero or medieval fantasy seems to have more or less left. And well, I haven't really been involved in an RP that hasn't lost steam within days for probably approaching 3 years at this point because I'm just not into that and it's tough to get involved with anything involving my NS nation when a lot of II RPs are spammy one liner fests of people who just want to slam abstract numbers of troops and equipment against each other rather than tell a story.

Eh, I've found that those groups existed far before discord. There's even rping groups Council of the Multiverse and others.

I feel it was easier to join such groups back a couple years because they still mostly existed on NS. I think a lot may have fully transitioned to discord and do their RPing on an offsite forum or something.

I'm in 2 of them and they still purely rp here. Its just spam that is done offsite tmk. At least on the ones I've been in. Best not to clog the ooc with it.

EDIT: Also, there's a fair few sci fi and horror rps currently about.

[Dayganistan]

Either way it just seems like it's been hard to get into RP the last year or two. Closed groups, feeling intimidated to join because an RP is already well underway or is all a group that seem to be friends, and that's just P2TM. Don't get me started on anything involving NS nations. Besides, genres I'm interested in are basically gone.

Couple years back people were trying to do RPs based on Rainbow Six. I wanted those to work out but sadly they always lost steam fairly quick so I can see why that's been given up on. There was also a long running Ace Combat RP that I probably would have joined if it wasn't so far along and for two years they weren't saying "we're almost done and the sequel is coming soon" but the whole group involved in that RP disappeared from NS without finishing the RP. Beyond those two any sort of genres that would appeal to me basically don't exist. No crime RPs (whether from the criminal or police perspective), no sci-fi in a cyberpunk type setting, hell even character RPs in a historical setting are rare to come by.

Maybe it's best I move on to attempting to write a novel or something. It's getting kind of clear I can't use RP as a vessel to tell the type of stories I want to tell.

[Grenartia]

Well within character focused RPs, anything that's not superhero or medieval fantasy seems to have more or less left. And well, I haven't really been involved in an RP that hasn't lost steam within days for probably approaching 3 years at this point because I'm just not into that and it's tough to get involved with anything involving my NS nation when a lot of II RPs are spammy one liner fests of people who just want to slam abstract numbers of troops and equipment against each other rather than tell a story.


I feel it was easier to join such groups back a couple years because they still mostly existed on NS. I think a lot may have fully transitioned to discord and do their RPing on an offsite forum or something.

I'm in 2 of them and they still purely rp here. Its just spam that is done offsite tmk. At least on the ones I've been in. Best not to clog the ooc with it.

The one RP group I've been in with an offsite forum has basically fizzled out, and the offsite is dead. I really don't think the fear that offsites will kill RP on here is founded.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

Woah, the discussion heated up abruptly overnight.

ISOT is what again?

It's a genre of fiction defined by taking elements from one setting to a different setting.

In this particular case, we are talking about an RP where each of us represent a faction/nation from a different fictional setting (or real life, or our own original concepts) that have been thrown together into one world by some space magic.

I'll add a dissenting opinion, since I co-op for a few of the RPs and I'm the most active mod in the discord.[...]

I don't disagree that some RPs are successful and have a Discord - I'm still pretty warm to the Alternative Divergence series of RPs - but I think such RPs are successful despite, not because of, having a Discord server.

But, at the same time, I'm a big fan of ISOT RPs, so I'm willing to join in on any planning. Especially since this will be one based around having Nationstates nations being ISOTed, something I haven't seen before.

It'll be a P2TM RP, not an International Incidents RP, so people are under no obligation to play their NationStates nations - they can play something else if they want.

I'm just saying that I'll be playing my NationStates concept. :p

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Woah, the discussion heated up abruptly overnight.

ISOT is what again?

It's a genre of fiction defined by taking elements from one setting to a different setting.

In this particular case, we are talking about an RP where each of us represent a faction/nation from a different fictional setting (or real life, or our own original concepts) that have been thrown together into one world by some space magic.

I'll add a dissenting opinion, since I co-op for a few of the RPs and I'm the most active mod in the discord.[...]

I don't disagree that some RPs are successful and have a Discord - I'm still pretty warm to the Alternative Divergence series of RPs - but I think such RPs are successful despite, not because of, having a Discord server.

But, at the same time, I'm a big fan of ISOT RPs, so I'm willing to join in on any planning. Especially since this will be one based around having Nationstates nations being ISOTed, something I haven't seen before.

It'll be a P2TM RP, not an International Incidents RP, so people are under no obligation to play their NationStates nations - they can play something else if they want.

I'm just saying that I'll be playing my NationStates concept.

Oof, well, nonetheless I'm up for it. This type of stuff always excites me.

[Ceystile]

Dunno how many biters I’m gonna get, but I have a little bit of hope to throw this idea out there anyway. It’s still in the development stages but I want to gauge interest before I put effort into making an RP that nobody will want to participate in.

It’ll be post-apocalyptic but a bit different...the apocalypse was caused by the polar ice caps melting due to global warming so the planet was essentially flooded. And over the years, most of the tiny remnants of humanity have evolved to adapt to this new environment and due to a little bit of toxic waste pollution (basically humanity is mostly merfolk and bird people now because to survive in this world you have to fly or swim).

This new ecosystem has been thriving pretty okay for the last 1,000 or so years, but a new threat is rising. I’m torn between the two threats:

1: Some of the few “normal” humans left on the planet wants to restore Earth to its former state and bring back the human population, but to do that they’d totally have to uproot the current food chain and basically killing everyone else So the new dominant species (fish and bird people) have to find a way to stop them.

2: Either due to a rise in toxic waste pollution or another Ice Age coming on due to the state of the world, the planet’s temperature is dropping and that is bad news. Must figure out a way to save the planet or survive before everyone dies.

[Galnius]

Dunno how many biters I’m gonna get, but I have a little bit of hope to throw this idea out there anyway. It’s still in the development stages but I want to gauge interest before I put effort into making an RP that nobody will want to participate in.

It’ll be post-apocalyptic but a bit different...the apocalypse was caused by the polar ice caps melting due to global warming so the planet was essentially flooded. And over the years, most of the tiny remnants of humanity have evolved to adapt to this new environment and due to a little bit of toxic waste pollution (basically humanity is mostly merfolk and bird people now because to survive in this world you have to fly or swim).

This new ecosystem has been thriving pretty okay for the last 1,000 or so years, but a new threat is rising. I’m torn between the two threats:

1: Some of the few “normal” humans left on the planet wants to restore Earth to its former state and bring back the human population, but to do that they’d totally have to uproot the current food chain and basically killing everyone else So the new dominant species (fish and bird people) have to find a way to stop them.

2: Either due to a rise in toxic waste pollution or another Ice Age coming on due to the state of the world, the planet’s temperature is dropping and that is bad news. Must figure out a way to save the planet or survive before everyone dies.

The first one is more interesting to me as it has a clear, doable goal. Not sure how you fight an ice age. What's the tech like?

[Ceystile]

You’ve got a point, the first one would allow people to get more active. And the tech has kinda regressed since the humans mostly died out to the point where it’s almost nonexistent...it’s largely been replaced by magic at this point since there weren’t really enough humans to keep advancing modern tech.

[New yugoslavaia]

You’ve got a point, the first one would allow people to get more active. And the tech has kinda regressed since the humans mostly died out to the point where it’s almost nonexistent...it’s largely been replaced by magic at this point since there weren’t really enough humans to keep advancing modern tech.

Hold on a sec...
Where did the magics come from?

[Ceystile]

I’m still developing it so I’m still working all that out, but I guess it’s more like mutations that are a result of the toxic waste but they’ve been written it off as magic.