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Postby Pantorrum » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:52 am

Vaquas wrote:Patton will be encouraging the Maine State Police to make the apprehension of the wife their top priority and to keep a look out for her given the proximity to New Hampshire.


The FBI issued an all points bulletin to all police forces around the country, and would have reached out to the state police requesting road blocks and vehicle checks around the state.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:53 am

Vaquas wrote:Patton will be encouraging the Maine State Police to make the apprehension of the wife their top priority and to keep a look out for her given the proximity to New Hampshire.



smart play, she handles this right it makes 2020 a much bigger possibility
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Postby Prolieum » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:00 am

I am still in the process of writing a speech for Kuznetsov to deliver at Manchester, though I have been pressed for time, and not writing well regardless. We have a brief window in preparing for the reports to be written for the breaking story, but if it begins to delay the roleplay, she will bow out due to health reasons.
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Postby Prolieum » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:02 am

The text of the bill should be provided in laying it out, Latvijas. It is not a serious problem, it should be a simple matter to edit the post, and copy and paste said text into it.
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Postby Uttland » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:41 am

Dentali wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:On the contrary, if the left continues to cannibalize itself with the Progressive-Democrat vote split, it is actually reasonable to presume a conservative Republican, such as Kramer, could win a Presidential election in 2020, 2024, and beyond.

All of which is dependent on how things transpire, of course, but that is true for anything.


the split is bad sure but we also need to look at demographics, states like Georgia, North Carolina and and Texas are losing safe red status. Looking at how the nation as a whole is beginning to lean further left on many social issues (minus abortion) a Kramer presidency is not impossible but increasingly unlikely, not to mention he will be 80 by the time of the election.

And it's all mostly due to demographics!
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Postby Greater Arab State » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:29 pm

Sorry about this but I have been wondering over the past few days what Anita Flores's liberty party is?
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:42 pm

Greater Arab State wrote:Sorry about this but I have been wondering over the past few days what Anita Flores's liberty party is?


Very long story short, the Libertarian party broke apart and the Liberty Party is one of the two that came out of it. Has more of a conservative/ancappy flair than the Libs, color is purple, Don't Tread on Me flag, most concentrated out West, still definitely a fourth party, not a big player yet
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Postby Greater Arab State » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:45 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Greater Arab State wrote:Sorry about this but I have been wondering over the past few days what Anita Flores's liberty party is?


Very long story short, the Libertarian party broke apart and the Liberty Party is one of the two that came out of it. Has more of a conservative/ancappy flair than the Libs, color is purple, Don't Tread on Me flag, most concentrated out West, still definitely a fourth party, not a big player yet

Ok thank you.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:16 pm

Carter/Denis and Lane/Eb meetings still going on?
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Postby Uttland » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:17 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:Carter/Denis and Lane/Eb meetings still going on?

I have no idea. I’m waiting on Pro to respond.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:28 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:Carter/Denis and Lane/Eb meetings still going on?

I have no idea. I’m waiting on Pro to respond.


I think it's your turn
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Postby Prolieum » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:16 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:Carter/Denis and Lane/Eb meetings still going on?

I have no idea. I’m waiting on Pro to respond.


I believe that I have. Unless I have erred, I do not see any further posts from Lane after my most recent post.
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Postby Velahor » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:21 pm

Uttland wrote:
Dentali wrote:
the split is bad sure but we also need to look at demographics, states like Georgia, North Carolina and and Texas are losing safe red status. Looking at how the nation as a whole is beginning to lean further left on many social issues (minus abortion) a Kramer presidency is not impossible but increasingly unlikely, not to mention he will be 80 by the time of the election.

And it's all mostly due to demographics!


It would be interesting to see what a Stephens run as a Republican would look like in 2024 (or 2020 if Reed doesn’t run). He’ll be 75 in 2020 and 79 in 2024, but as a long-time executive and a social near-liberal, he could be a decent choice.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:26 pm

Velahor wrote:
Uttland wrote:And it's all mostly due to demographics!


It would be interesting to see what a Stephens run as a Republican would look like in 2024 (or 2020 if Reed doesn’t run). He’ll be 75 in 2020 and 79 in 2024, but as a long-time executive and a social near-liberal, he could be a decent choice.


He’d get as far as rand Paul 2016
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Postby Velahor » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:27 pm

Dentali wrote:
Velahor wrote:
It would be interesting to see what a Stephens run as a Republican would look like in 2024 (or 2020 if Reed doesn’t run). He’ll be 75 in 2020 and 79 in 2024, but as a long-time executive and a social near-liberal, he could be a decent choice.


He’d get as far as rand Paul 2016


Maybe slightly better. The field will likely not have a Trump, and Stephens has pushed aside his more extreme economic positions to appear more electable a time or two before.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:31 pm

Damn, the Chicago machine is strong.

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:33 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Damn, the Chicago machine is strong.


And RL Gov. Jackson somehow almost managed to lose an unlosable race
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:35 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Damn, the Chicago machine is strong.


And RL Gov. Jackson somehow almost managed to lose an unlosable race


How does one almost lose to a conservative tea party type while an incumbent Governor in Illinois?

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:37 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
And RL Gov. Jackson somehow almost managed to lose an unlosable race


How does one almost lose to a conservative tea party type while an incumbent Governor in Illinois?


He outspent her like 30-1, and had the establishment so locked in for him that they were declaring endorsements of her illegal

But the guy screwed up on the abortion bill he signed. He got super lucky in how quiet the media attention was around it and Ives really did not run a good campaign but it got the conservatives riled up so much that he almost lost even with the whole "Only guy who can beat the Democrat" thing going for him
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:39 pm

Classic Illinois... Incompetent Republican vs Corrupt Democrat

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:44 pm

Republicans also nominated Jason Larson.

EDIT

I have a strong feeling Lipinski will take a hint and move to the left to survive a challenge by someone who is not a complete political novice.
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Postby Bruke » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:52 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
How does one almost lose to a conservative tea party type while an incumbent Governor in Illinois?


He outspent her like 30-1, and had the establishment so locked in for him that they were declaring endorsements of her illegal

But the guy screwed up on the abortion bill he signed. He got super lucky in how quiet the media attention was around it and Ives really did not run a good campaign but it got the conservatives riled up so much that he almost lost even with the whole "Only guy who can beat the Democrat" thing going for him


I mean it's Illinois, and he's a Republican, so I would assume he would have to try and throw the suburbanites, moderate Democrats, and liberal Republicans a bone on abortion.
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Postby Dentali » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:24 am

Bruke wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
He outspent her like 30-1, and had the establishment so locked in for him that they were declaring endorsements of her illegal

But the guy screwed up on the abortion bill he signed. He got super lucky in how quiet the media attention was around it and Ives really did not run a good campaign but it got the conservatives riled up so much that he almost lost even with the whole "Only guy who can beat the Democrat" thing going for him


I mean it's Illinois, and he's a Republican, so I would assume he would have to try and throw the suburbanites, moderate Democrats, and liberal Republicans a bone on abortion.



yea if he vetoed the abortion bill i doubt he'd win the general
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:42 am

Bruke wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
He outspent her like 30-1, and had the establishment so locked in for him that they were declaring endorsements of her illegal

But the guy screwed up on the abortion bill he signed. He got super lucky in how quiet the media attention was around it and Ives really did not run a good campaign but it got the conservatives riled up so much that he almost lost even with the whole "Only guy who can beat the Democrat" thing going for him


I mean it's Illinois, and he's a Republican, so I would assume he would have to try and throw the suburbanites, moderate Democrats, and liberal Republicans a bone on abortion.


It's farther left than they are by a decent clip, not a PP style thing, but integrating into Medicaid, which is more controversial. If it was something like VT or something where the conservatives are kinda liberal he'd end up better, but rural Illinois is sort of discount Indiana, so he PO'd them.

Dentali wrote:
Bruke wrote:
I mean it's Illinois, and he's a Republican, so I would assume he would have to try and throw the suburbanites, moderate Democrats, and liberal Republicans a bone on abortion.



yea if he vetoed the abortion bill i doubt he'd win the general


He was pretty screwed either way, but he hurt himself more by depressing the base than trying to expand his tent
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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:43 am

Wait, can they take up amendments in the Senate while we are discussing a current Bill? :blink:

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