Game of Thrones: A Dream of Spring [OOC] -Concluded-

[Greater Germany]

Knighthood is so interwoven with the Seven that it would be unlikely to train them specifically as knights without any of the military-religious cuture as opposed to, say as the northerners do, lancers. Given Barristan's conservatism I wouldn't put it beyond him to want them to eventually sit in a sept as is traditional should they follow Dany to Westeros. Red Lamb may speak of the Great Shepherd as he was raised to, but they're all young and conversion isn't unlikely.

Barristan also doesnt seem like the type of religious zealot to start proselytizing to them while trying to train them to fight (knights aren't for praying, they're for killing)

That wouldn't make him a zealot. It's part and parcel of the culture he was born into, raised with and has embraced his entire life.

[Warg the Immortal]

Barristan also doesnt seem like the type of religious zealot to start proselytizing to them while trying to train them to fight (knights aren't for praying, they're for killing)

That wouldn't make him a zealot. It's part and parcel of the culture he was born into, raised with and has embraced his entire life.

he also saw men like Roberts kingsguard and ser gregor clegane tarnishing the very idea of what it means to be a knight (all fots), so i doubt he cares much about someone's faith when compared to the virtue of the individual

[Lunas Legion]

That wouldn't make him a zealot. It's part and parcel of the culture he was born into, raised with and has embraced his entire life.

he also saw men like Roberts kingsguard and ser gregor clegane tarnishing the very idea of what it means to be a knight, so i doubt he cares much about someone's faith when compared to the virtue of the individual

Plus he's got the military reality of the situation to consider, where some heavy cavalry, uninitiated in the cultural backing of knighthood, would be valuable.

[Greater Germany]

That wouldn't make him a zealot. It's part and parcel of the culture he was born into, raised with and has embraced his entire life.

he also saw men like Roberts kingsguard and ser gregor clegane tarnishing the very idea of what it means to be a knight, so i doubt he cares much about someone's faith when compared to the virtue of the individual

Their tarnishing knighthood but not following the teachings of the Seven isn't likely to drive him away from its virtues. What he sees in a potential squire as an individual would mesh with the virtues he was raised with for knighthood, and those stem from the Faith.
So, yeah. Not really a zealot at all.

[Greater Germany]

he also saw men like Roberts kingsguard and ser gregor clegane tarnishing the very idea of what it means to be a knight, so i doubt he cares much about someone's faith when compared to the virtue of the individual

Plus he's got the military reality of the situation to consider, where some heavy cavalry, uninitiated in the cultural backing of knighthood, would be valuable.

Given he's teaching a handful of boys in chivalry and knighthood, instead of a hundred men in lance and cavalry charges, it would appear he's holding to his cultural norms rather than purely the military situation. Even Red Lamb seems more interested in spitting on the Great Shepherd instead of worshiping him.

He had done his own praying earlier, as his squires helped him don his armor. His gods were far away across the sea in Westeros, but if the septons told it true, the Seven watched over their children wherever they might wander. Ser Barristan had said a prayer to the Crone, beseeching her to grant him a little of her wisdom, so that he might lead his men to victory. To his old friend the Warrior he prayed for strength. He asked the Mother for her mercy, should he fall. The Father he entreated to watch over his lads, these half-trained squires who were the closest things to sons that he would ever know.

Anyway, I'm not meaning to assert that his squires will all follow the Seven, or do already, just pointing out that non-FoS knights are very uncommon.

[Union Princes]

How are battle fought in this RP? Are there mechanics that decide tactics, strategy, and outcome?

[The Valyria Empire]

How are battle fought in this RP? Are there mechanics that decide tactics, strategy, and outcome?

Just like how 1v1s are decided, the players will TG each other and discuss their stuff. From the generals, to the weather conditions, terrain, numbers, skill, Calvary, etc.

If they can't reach a conclusion, I or a co-op will decide for them. If they still refuse after that, that player will be retconned and get a strike.

ANYWAY, POSTING COMING UP TONIGHT

[Union Princes]

Some questions I have in mind:

How does a house grow in strength, economically and militarily in this RP?
How expensive and how long is it to turn a castle into a fortress?
How many blacksmiths are needed to supply a standing army in the thousands? (I know the Lannisters could do since they have all the gold in the world, but I'm wonder how the other kingdoms could manage it)
What mechanics are there to find or capture a Valyrian Steel sword?
What decides skill and veterancy in soldiers and generals?
What about siege mechanics and urban combat in castles and cities?

And what's your ideal end goal of this RP?

[Revlona]

Some questions I have in mind:

How does a house grow in strength, economically and militarily in this RP?
How expensive and how long is it to turn a castle into a fortress?
How many blacksmiths are needed to supply a standing army in the thousands? (I know the Lannisters could do since they have all the gold in the world, but I'm wonder how the other kingdoms could manage it)
What mechanics are there to find or capture a Valyrian Steel sword?
What decides skill and veterancy in soldiers and generals?
What about siege mechanics and urban combat in castles and cities?

And what's your ideal end goal of this RP?

1. Be smart, get good marriages, fight in battles, support your liege lord

2. Pretty expensive, and a pretty long time

3. Alot, but all the kingdoms can afford it, plus lords provide for there own troops mostly

4. Well, Finding one is off the table, taking one from a defeated house is more probable but is up do Val

5. Skill is determined by what advantages they had when they where being taught, veterancy is just them having experience

6.Same thing as pitched battles, decide through TG who will win

7. Survive

[The Valyria Empire]

Some questions I have in mind:

How does a house grow in strength, economically and militarily in this RP?
How expensive and how long is it to turn a castle into a fortress?
How many blacksmiths are needed to supply a standing army in the thousands? (I know the Lannisters could do since they have all the gold in the world, but I'm wonder how the other kingdoms could manage it)
What mechanics are there to find or capture a Valyrian Steel sword?
What decides skill and veterancy in soldiers and generals?
What about siege mechanics and urban combat in castles and cities?

And what's your ideal end goal of this RP?

Rev cleared pretty much all that up, thank you.

1. You do so by your actions in the RP. Being rewarded by your liege, or King. Or doing so economically (however, you're into the Stormlands which has recently became fairly profitable.) So, you'll have to do through trade, and what not. Basically what Rev said.

2. A very long time. We're talking possibly a decade or more. Depends on your wealth and stuff (see above)

3. Through the power of money. Lannisters do have a lot of money, but the other LPs have money as well. They have possibly hundreds for each reason. Most soldiers are funded by their own lords and landed knights, not by the LPs.

4. You cannot find a sword. You can take a sword from a defeated opponent (you have to discuss this via TG). However, stealing the blade is pretty disrespectful, and the house you steal it from will hate your house until they get it back.

5. Basically what you wrote for your characters. It's been a hundred years since a major war, and sixty years since a guerrilla conflict. So, unless your character is fairly older, he'll have little experience in field combat. Doesn't mean you can't be very skilled, as there are always bandits and small revolts you could have put down over the years. There is also that your character could have studied combat, and thus become a good general while being proficient in swordplay is something that you just have to keep practicing. So in your skills if you have it say they're a great fighter, it's assumed they train a lot/did a lot in the past. Example; Cregan is a fantastic strategist and fighter. He's practicing with a blade since he was about 8. He started to be educated in warfare by his father, and got to use a little of that knowledge in the north with a small uprising.

6. Same as what I said earlier. Take it to the TGs, and hash it out.

7. (Hopefully) Win the Great Council. If not, take up arms.

[Vladivostokava]

gonna finish my app this morning

[Union Princes]

anyone else have goals for the end of this RP?

[Alaroma]

anyone else have goals for the end of this RP?

Get my House App done, which I want to do, but I'm trying to organize it's history.

[Warg the Immortal]

anyone else have goals for the end of this RP?

1. Put Jaehaerys III on the throne
2. Return Jaehaerys' wife and children to him
3. Hatch a dragon
4. Put the Whispers branch back under the heel of the Dragon's Tongue branch

[Union Princes]

You know there can only be one King on the Iron Throne. One of the brothers are going to be a kinslayer. Unless there could agree on splitting the Seven Kingdoms in half.

[Lunas Legion]

You know there can only be one King on the Iron Throne. One of the brothers are going to be a kinslayer. Unless there could agree on splitting the Seven Kingdoms in half.

Hardly. The other could be exiled, killed in battle or the CK2 method of being locked in a dark cell and throwing away the key. You're only a kinslayer if the killing is ordered.

[Revlona]

I'm gonna wait for Eraus to post before I respond to the letter Val

[Greater Germany]

anyone else have goals for the end of this RP?

Restore House Justman to the throne.

[Revlona]

anyone else have goals for the end of this RP?

Restore House Justman to the throne.

They're extinct

[Fahran]

I have a post in the works, but I’ve been feeling under the weather. Fever, chills, and all that.

[Nuxipal]

Daeron and Ixidor posts coming tonight.

[Warg the Immortal]

"Three children bickering over who's King..."

Victon Greyjoy saying that about Jae and Dae doesn't really make sense, considering they're both older than him by nearly a decade

[Revlona]

"Three children bickering over who's King..."

Victon Greyjoy saying that about Jae and Dae doesn't really make sense, considering they're both older than him by nearly a decade

*Shrugs*

The Ironborn never make sense

[The Valyria Empire]

"Three children bickering over who's King..."

Victon Greyjoy saying that about Jae and Dae doesn't really make sense, considering they're both older than him by nearly a decade

It's mostly from an experience stance, from the view of an Ironborn. While everyone has just been, "hanging out" Victon has been out paying the Iron Price. So, when he sees the three king they're basically children to him. They haven't done anything on the same martial scale as him.

[Revlona]

You know there can only be one King on the Iron Throne. One of the brothers are going to be a kinslayer. Unless there could agree on splitting the Seven Kingdoms in half.

Hardly. The other could be exiled, killed in battle or the CK2 method of being locked in a dark cell and throwing away the key. You're only a kinslayer if the killing is ordered.

TO THE OUBLIETTE