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Dentali
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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:25 am

Chewion wrote:
Dentali wrote:

You said you were going to move military ships in that is not diplomacy that is a threat, Venezuela does not have unified opposition at all

The US does it IRL to apply pressure. The ships aren’t entering their waters.

And they do. A political party that was elected and controlled the parliament before their power was taken by the President.



They do it for very specific situations, they do it when diplomacy fails or allies are being directly threatened, as an opening move without UN consent or a clear mission its a terrible idea and will be condemned by the international community especially since no american interests are threatened
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Chewion
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:26 am

Dentali wrote:
Chewion wrote:The US does it IRL to apply pressure. The ships aren’t entering their waters.

And they do. A political party that was elected and controlled the parliament before their power was taken by the President.



They do it for very specific situations, they do it when diplomacy fails or allies are being directly threatened, as an opening move without UN consent or a clear mission its a terrible idea and will be condemned by the international community especially since no american interests are threatened

I’m not just going to invade I’m just being prepared. I’ll be calling a UNSC meeting over it.
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Chewion
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:27 am

Dentali wrote:
Chewion wrote:The US does it IRL to apply pressure. The ships aren’t entering their waters.

And they do. A political party that was elected and controlled the parliament before their power was taken by the President.



They do it for very specific situations, they do it when diplomacy fails or allies are being directly threatened, as an opening move without UN consent or a clear mission its a terrible idea and will be condemned by the international community especially since no american interests are threatened

And I don’t need the UN’s consent to act as I please. The US likes it’s sovereignty.
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Vietmihn
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Postby Vietmihn » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:29 am

Chewion wrote:
Dentali wrote:

They do it for very specific situations, they do it when diplomacy fails or allies are being directly threatened, as an opening move without UN consent or a clear mission its a terrible idea and will be condemned by the international community especially since no american interests are threatened

And I don’t need the UN’s consent to act as I please. The US likes it’s sovereignty.

But so does NK..
And whenever they do things as they please, their economy and their famine gets even worse..

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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:29 am

Vietmihn wrote:
Chewion wrote:And I don’t need the UN’s consent to act as I please. The US likes it’s sovereignty.

But so does NK..
And whenever they do things as they please, their economy and their famine gets even worse..

Because what they want to do is mass murder.
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Chewion
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:30 am

Also wanna have the meeting now?
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Vietmihn
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Postby Vietmihn » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:30 am

Chewion wrote:
Vietmihn wrote:But so does NK..
And whenever they do things as they please, their economy and their famine gets even worse..

Because what they want to do is mass murder.

And the US wants to bomb innocents..
But they can do as they please..

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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:36 am

Wait are you talking about how US bombs country's and how that accidentally kills innocent or some other incident? Because most of the time the US may kill innocent but that does not mean they want to kill innocents. Also why are you comparing NK to The US? While the US has it faults NK is so much worse.
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Chewion
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:36 am

Vietmihn wrote:
Chewion wrote:Because what they want to do is mass murder.

And the US wants to bomb innocents..
But they can do as they please..

Wanna do the meeting now?

The US doesn’t want to bomb innocents. That’s collateral damage that is actively avoided.

North Korea wants to murder millions of civilians with nuclear fire.
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:37 am

Now let’s end this before this gets locked.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:39 am

Well then again I don't think NK wants to murder millions they still suck but I don't know if they actually want that.
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:42 am

Andsed wrote:Well then again I don't think NK wants to murder millions they still suck but I don't know if they actually want that.

Are you going to react to my freedom of navigation activities in the South China Sea.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:42 am

Hold on I will try and post soon.
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A New Ecuador
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Postby A New Ecuador » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:53 am

I just found out that a huge operation against a venezuelan ex-police that was a important face in the oposition and was killed. Venezuelan people are starting a new wave of protest against the goverment.

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Chewion
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:15 pm

A New Ecuador wrote:I just found out that a huge operation against a venezuelan ex-police that was a important face in the oposition and was killed. Venezuelan people are starting a new wave of protest against the goverment.

You wanna RP as Venezuela for me?
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Postby NewLakotah » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:17 pm

NS Name: NewLakotah
Nation: Canada
Flag: Maple Leaf of Power
Capital: Ottawa
Population: 36.29 million
Type of Government: Westminster Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy

Leadership

Leader: Justin Trudeau
Queen Elizabeth II of Canada - Head of State
Picture:
Age:
Height: About as tall as Justin Trudeau (for reference)
Weight: 1.01 Justin Trudeau's
Position/Title: Prime Minister
Political Party: Liberal
Most important goals for nation: WIP
Bio: WIP

Economy

GDP: $1.640 Trillion
GDP Per Capita: $48,144 PPP
PPP: $1.763 Trillion
Major Economic Sectors: services, agriculture, manufacturing, construction
Major Exports: motor vehicles and parts, industrial machinery, aircraft, telecommunications equipment; chemicals, plastics, fertilizers; wood pulp, timber, crude petroleum, natural gas, electricity, aluminum
Major Imports: machinery and equipment, motor vehicles and parts, crude oil, chemicals, electricity, durable consumer goods
Major Trade partners: United States, China, EU, Japan, and Mexico

Military
Total Active Duty: 79,250
Total Reserves: 27,000
5,000 Rangers

Army
Uniform: CADPAT
Tanks: 80
SPA:
Towed-Artillery:161
MLRS:

Air Force
Uniform: CADPAT
Fighter Jet: 60
Attack Aircraft: 64
Transport Aircraft:215
Trainer Aircraft: 141
Helicopters: 168
Attack Helicopters:

Navy
Uniform: NCD
Aircraft Carriers:
Frigates: 12
Destroyers:
Corvettes:
Submarines:4
Patrol Craft:20
Mine Warfare Vessel
Cruisers:

Marines
Uniform:

Nukes (y/n): N

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Vietmihn
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Postby Vietmihn » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:34 pm

Andsed wrote:Well then again I don't think NK wants to murder millions they still suck but I don't know if they actually want that.

If you are talking about nukes, wow.
North Korea hasn't SHOT the nukes for a reason. They just want a way to not be attacked, by pretending they have military power, while in reality, we could take them down easily.
NewLakotah wrote:NS Name: NewLakotah
Nation: Canada
Flag: Maple Leaf of Power
Capital: Ottawa
Population: 36.29 million
Type of Government: Westminster Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy

Leadership

Leader: Justin Trudeau
Queen Elizabeth II of Canada - Head of State
Picture:
Age:
Height: About as tall as Justin Trudeau (for reference)
Weight: 1.01 Justin Trudeau's
Position/Title: Prime Minister
Political Party: Liberal
Most important goals for nation: WIP
Bio: WIP

Economy

GDP:
GDP Per Capita:
PPP:
Major Economic Sectors:
Major Exports:
Major Imports:
Major Trade partners:

Military
Total Active Duty:
Total Reserves:

Army
Uniform: CADPAT
Tanks: Yes, we got'em
SPA:
Towed-Artillery:
MLRS:

Air Force
Uniform: CADPAT
Fighter Jet: Yeah, eh
Attack Aircraft:
Transport Aircraft:
Trainer Aircraft:
Helicopters: sure thang
Attack Helicopters:

Navy
Uniform: NCD
Aircraft Carriers:
Frigates:
Destroyers:
Corvettes:
Submarines:
Patrol Craft:
Mine Warfare Vessel
Cruisers:

Marines
Uniform:

Nukes (y/n): hell no

WIP
WIP WIP WIP
WIP WIP
WIP
2000 - DO NOT REMOVE

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put the weight and height as lbs and inches and feet or whatever, not as "trudeau's"

Also, yes. I do want to start the negotiations.

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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:40 pm

Vietmihn wrote:
Andsed wrote:Well then again I don't think NK wants to murder millions they still suck but I don't know if they actually want that.

If you are talking about nukes, wow.
North Korea hasn't SHOT the nukes for a reason. They just want a way to not be attacked, by pretending they have military power, while in reality, we could take them down easily.
NewLakotah wrote:NS Name: NewLakotah
Nation: Canada
Flag: Maple Leaf of Power
Capital: Ottawa
Population: 36.29 million
Type of Government: Westminster Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy

Leadership

Leader: Justin Trudeau
Queen Elizabeth II of Canada - Head of State
Picture:
Age:
Height: About as tall as Justin Trudeau (for reference)
Weight: 1.01 Justin Trudeau's
Position/Title: Prime Minister
Political Party: Liberal
Most important goals for nation: WIP
Bio: WIP

Economy

GDP:
GDP Per Capita:
PPP:
Major Economic Sectors:
Major Exports:
Major Imports:
Major Trade partners:

Military
Total Active Duty:
Total Reserves:

Army
Uniform: CADPAT
Tanks: Yes, we got'em
SPA:
Towed-Artillery:
MLRS:

Air Force
Uniform: CADPAT
Fighter Jet: Yeah, eh
Attack Aircraft:
Transport Aircraft:
Trainer Aircraft:
Helicopters: sure thang
Attack Helicopters:

Navy
Uniform: NCD
Aircraft Carriers:
Frigates:
Destroyers:
Corvettes:
Submarines:
Patrol Craft:
Mine Warfare Vessel
Cruisers:

Marines
Uniform:

Nukes (y/n): hell no

WIP
WIP WIP WIP
WIP WIP
WIP
2000 - DO NOT REMOVE

.....
put the weight and height as lbs and inches and feet or whatever, not as "trudeau's"

Also, yes. I do want to start the negotiations.

Well still north Korea is 10 times worse than the US. I mean the US has done some bad things of course. But first off have you seen North Korean citizens they are starving while their government does almost nothing to help. They also force citizens to work in labor camps and if they try to escape they will punish their family's. They also have labor camps in places like Russia which you know what the profits made by the camps are used for? Helping their starving citizens? Using it to help their failing economy? Nope for Kim-Jong-Uns life of luxury and nuclear weapons. They have violated human rights multiple times and it is not fair to compare them to modern day USA. Now in the past the US has done awful things like slavery but today they are no where near as bad as North Korea.
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Vietmihn
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Postby Vietmihn » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:44 pm

Andsed wrote:
Vietmihn wrote:If you are talking about nukes, wow.
North Korea hasn't SHOT the nukes for a reason. They just want a way to not be attacked, by pretending they have military power, while in reality, we could take them down easily.

.....
put the weight and height as lbs and inches and feet or whatever, not as "trudeau's"

Also, yes. I do want to start the negotiations.

Well still north Korea is 10 times worse than the US. I mean the US has done some bad things of course. But first off have you seen North Korean citizens they are starving while their government does almost nothing to help. They also force citizens to work in labor camps and if they try to escape they will punish their family's. They also have labor camps in places like Russia which you know what the profits made by the camps are used for? Helping their starving citizens? Using it to help their failing economy? Nope for Kim-Jong-Uns life of luxury and nuclear weapons. They have violated human rights multiple times and it is not fair to compare them to modern day USA. Now in the past the US has done awful things like slavery but today they are no where near as bad as North Korea.

No, I know.. But what I am trying to say is that North Korea IS worse by a lot, I know that, but the US has done terrible things with almost no punishment.

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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:45 pm

Fair point the US should some punishment for it,s war crimes.
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Vietmihn
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Postby Vietmihn » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:46 pm

Andsed wrote:Fair point the US should some punishment for it,s war crimes.

Okay, nice you agree, but we really need to stop this conversation before this gets locked.

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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:47 pm

Agreed.
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Postby Vietmihn » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:50 pm

Andsed wrote:Agreed.

IC wise, North Korea will be trying to open up and fix relations with the rest of the world, including China.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:56 pm

Well that should interesting.
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NewLakotah
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Postby NewLakotah » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:21 pm

Vietmihn wrote:
Andsed wrote:Well then again I don't think NK wants to murder millions they still suck but I don't know if they actually want that.

If you are talking about nukes, wow.
North Korea hasn't SHOT the nukes for a reason. They just want a way to not be attacked, by pretending they have military power, while in reality, we could take them down easily.
NewLakotah wrote:NS Name: NewLakotah
Nation: Canada
Flag: Maple Leaf of Power
Capital: Ottawa
Population: 36.29 million
Type of Government: Westminster Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy

Leadership

Leader: Justin Trudeau
Queen Elizabeth II of Canada - Head of State
Picture:
Age:
Height: About as tall as Justin Trudeau (for reference)
Weight: 1.01 Justin Trudeau's
Position/Title: Prime Minister
Political Party: Liberal
Most important goals for nation: WIP
Bio: WIP

Economy

GDP:
GDP Per Capita:
PPP:
Major Economic Sectors:
Major Exports:
Major Imports:
Major Trade partners:

Military
Total Active Duty:
Total Reserves:

Army
Uniform: CADPAT
Tanks: Yes, we got'em
SPA:
Towed-Artillery:
MLRS:

Air Force
Uniform: CADPAT
Fighter Jet: Yeah, eh
Attack Aircraft:
Transport Aircraft:
Trainer Aircraft:
Helicopters: sure thang
Attack Helicopters:

Navy
Uniform: NCD
Aircraft Carriers:
Frigates:
Destroyers:
Corvettes:
Submarines:
Patrol Craft:
Mine Warfare Vessel
Cruisers:

Marines
Uniform:

Nukes (y/n): hell no

WIP
WIP WIP WIP
WIP WIP
WIP
2000 - DO NOT REMOVE

.....
put the weight and height as lbs and inches and feet or whatever, not as "trudeau's"

Also, yes. I do want to start the negotiations.

I fail to see how you cannot see a joke when its right there. Secondly, I fail to see how this is important. thirdly, Chewie and I go way back so I'm sure he wont be offended by it. Fourthly I was supposed to have the up ages ago, but been crazy busy.
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"When it comes time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song, and die like a hero going home." ~~ Tecumseh

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