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Andsed
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Postby Andsed » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:23 pm

so if this goes on is anyone going to provide evidence to back up their claims or not?
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Dentali
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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:23 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Dentali wrote:

She is an incredibly contriversial figure and right after her term right wing islamicsts took over the country. A woman hasn’t led a major political party since Bhutto and by every measure and metric women’s rights have degraded since her presidency

Rightwing islamists aren't the majority of Pakistan's population, Bhutto was popular with most of the electorate during her term in office. In recent years women have had increased involvement in politics, with many being elected into the National Assembly.



No they aren’t the majority, but the number of laws restrictions and cultural practices prevalent in Pakistan today, many of which were instituted after her presidency are a huge detriment to women. Look I’ll accept a women in power in Pakistan in the RP but then we need to have a talk about what “realism@ means
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Union Princes
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Union Princes » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:24 pm

Can the Russia player reform the USSR or is that to unrealistic for this RP?
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Romanussia
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Postby Romanussia » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:27 pm

Chewion wrote:
Romanussia wrote:Yeah, don't even bother. If I can't get another party to rule Russia, there's like no way this argument is going to work for Pakistan.

I said no because there has only been Putin and his party since basically the start of democratic Russia. Yelstin doesn’t count. He was a drunk fool.

Putin's controversial presidency and the actually fair popularity of the party (and it could be even more popular should I start to lax back on its current standpoints) as well as the fact that the party is now one of the major ones of the current election (See Here) gives it a real chance to be abel to go succesfully against Putin, as well as the fact the United Russia party had fared with little support during the Russian economic crisis, I thought I'd really be able to change my party. Looks like not.

But, that arguments over. I don't care anymore.
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Postby Romanussia » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:29 pm

Union Princes wrote:Can the Russia player reform the USSR or is that to unrealistic for this RP?

I'm Russia. And yes, I think that's very unrealistic. As Chewie said before, even another party is ruled out. The communists have too little support for that to happen. Plus, I don't even want to reform the USSR, so...
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A nation based in the present inhabited by a more latinized Romanian culture ruled by a constitutional monarchy shrouded in a vivid and detailed history and armed with a disciplined and modernized military.
Capital: Traiana | Currency: Koson | Demonym: Romanus/Romanian



RNN: General elections proclaim Dacian Ciolos as new premier of Romanussia's legislature | Romanussia national under-21 soccer team wins its first UEFA Championship over Spain in the final | Romanus navy recieves first shipment of new equipment since its overhaul was approved by the General Staff | The Acordul calls for its next cooperative research operation

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Postby New Doltania » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:34 pm

One question: IRL, the nation I want to be (The Rep. Of Ireland) doesn't have nukes. Can I add nukes to the armed forces' armoury?
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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:39 pm

Romanussia wrote:
Chewion wrote:I said no because there has only been Putin and his party since basically the start of democratic Russia. Yelstin doesn’t count. He was a drunk fool.

Putin's controversial presidency and the actually fair popularity of the party (and it could be even more popular should I start to lax back on its current standpoints) as well as the fact that the party is now one of the major ones of the current election (See Here) gives it a real chance to be abel to go succesfully against Putin, as well as the fact the United Russia party had fared with little support during the Russian economic crisis, I thought I'd really be able to change my party. Looks like not.

But, that arguments over. I don't care anymore.


Say Putin died and your guy took over with a policy of... whatever you want
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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:40 pm

Romanussia wrote:
Union Princes wrote:Can the Russia player reform the USSR or is that to unrealistic for this RP?

I'm Russia. And yes, I think that's very unrealistic. As Chewie said before, even another party is ruled out. The communists have too little support for that to happen. Plus, I don't even want to reform the USSR, so...



Something like that would have to be a long term plan
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Postby Aillyria » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:54 pm

Dentali wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Rightwing islamists aren't the majority of Pakistan's population, Bhutto was popular with most of the electorate during her term in office. In recent years women have had increased involvement in politics, with many being elected into the National Assembly.



No they aren’t the majority, but the number of laws restrictions and cultural practices prevalent in Pakistan today, many of which were instituted after her presidency are a huge detriment to women. Look I’ll accept a women in power in Pakistan in the RP but then we need to have a talk about what “realism@ means

You are aware that the "islamization laws" passed before Bhutto's term were unconstitutional, right? Pakistan's Constitution of 1973 (the current one), has articles protecting women's rights....however the subsequent military governments enforced misogynistic laws that aren't in line with the customs of the people.
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:58 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Dentali wrote:

No they aren’t the majority, but the number of laws restrictions and cultural practices prevalent in Pakistan today, many of which were instituted after her presidency are a huge detriment to women. Look I’ll accept a women in power in Pakistan in the RP but then we need to have a talk about what “realism@ means

You are aware that the "islamization laws" passed before Bhutto's term were unconstitutional, right? Pakistan's Constitution of 1973 (the current one), has articles protecting women's rights....however the subsequent military governments enforced misogynistic laws that aren't in line with the customs of the people.



Yea i am, im talking the reality of the situation. Not necessarily the laws on the books
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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:00 pm

Alright im done with this
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Postby Crecyat » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:11 pm

Reserve Germany, please and thank you.

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Postby Romanussia » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:21 pm

Dentali wrote:
Romanussia wrote:Putin's controversial presidency and the actually fair popularity of the party (and it could be even more popular should I start to lax back on its current standpoints) as well as the fact that the party is now one of the major ones of the current election (See Here) gives it a real chance to be abel to go succesfully against Putin, as well as the fact the United Russia party had fared with little support during the Russian economic crisis, I thought I'd really be able to change my party. Looks like not.

But, that arguments over. I don't care anymore.


Say Putin died and your guy took over with a policy of... whatever you want

He's a member of a different party, so Chewie said that wouldn't work. Maybe I'll be able to do it anyway if I can change his mind.
New Doltania wrote:One question: IRL, the nation I want to be (The Rep. Of Ireland) doesn't have nukes. Can I add nukes to the armed forces' armoury?

Umm, no offense, but, I personally think that's ludicrous. Ireland would in no way be able to have that technology let alone produce it or be able to conduct such a program.
Dentali wrote:
Romanussia wrote:I'm Russia. And yes, I think that's very unrealistic. As Chewie said before, even another party is ruled out. The communists have too little support for that to happen. Plus, I don't even want to reform the USSR, so...



Something like that would have to be a long term plan

VERY LONG term plan even if I got past the fact that literally no one would tolerate that. Plus, I don't want to reform the USSR anyway.
Crecyat wrote:Reserve Germany, please and thank you.

France has a buddy. Europe is looking good so far.
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A nation based in the present inhabited by a more latinized Romanian culture ruled by a constitutional monarchy shrouded in a vivid and detailed history and armed with a disciplined and modernized military.
Capital: Traiana | Currency: Koson | Demonym: Romanus/Romanian



RNN: General elections proclaim Dacian Ciolos as new premier of Romanussia's legislature | Romanussia national under-21 soccer team wins its first UEFA Championship over Spain in the final | Romanus navy recieves first shipment of new equipment since its overhaul was approved by the General Staff | The Acordul calls for its next cooperative research operation

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Postby Aillyria » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:54 pm

Dentali wrote:Alright im done with this

Are you serious?

If it'd help, I'll just switch to a different nation.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:55 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Dentali wrote:Alright im done with this

Are you serious?

If it'd help, I'll just switch to a different nation.


not the rp the arguement
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Postby Aillyria » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:02 pm

Dentali wrote:
Aillyria wrote:Are you serious?

If it'd help, I'll just switch to a different nation.


not the rp the arguement

I'm sorry, I got defensive.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist

West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".

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I am female, Sorelianist, Sufi Muslim, Biracial, Murican
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:04 pm

Dentali wrote:Alright im done with this

Done with what?
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:05 pm

Dentali wrote:
Romanussia wrote:Putin's controversial presidency and the actually fair popularity of the party (and it could be even more popular should I start to lax back on its current standpoints) as well as the fact that the party is now one of the major ones of the current election (See Here) gives it a real chance to be abel to go succesfully against Putin, as well as the fact the United Russia party had fared with little support during the Russian economic crisis, I thought I'd really be able to change my party. Looks like not.

But, that arguments over. I don't care anymore.


Say Putin died and your guy took over with a policy of... whatever you want

Like I said. Also just because he’s from Putin’s party doesn’t mean he has to have the exact same vision. So long as it isn’t radically different like full blown communist government.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:11 pm

Chewion wrote:
Dentali wrote:Alright im done with this

Done with what?


the argument not the game
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:20 pm

Dentali wrote:
Chewion wrote:Done with what?


the argument not the game

Ok
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Postby Romanussia » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 pm

Chewion wrote:
Dentali wrote:
Say Putin died and your guy took over with a policy of... whatever you want

Like I said. Also just because he’s from Putin’s party doesn’t mean he has to have the exact same vision. So long as it isn’t radically different like full blown communist government.

No thank you. I tried to make a new leader. I understood why you denied the leader. I'm done making any new leader or policy or whatever.
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Capital: Traiana | Currency: Koson | Demonym: Romanus/Romanian



RNN: General elections proclaim Dacian Ciolos as new premier of Romanussia's legislature | Romanussia national under-21 soccer team wins its first UEFA Championship over Spain in the final | Romanus navy recieves first shipment of new equipment since its overhaul was approved by the General Staff | The Acordul calls for its next cooperative research operation

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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:36 pm

NS Name: Chewion
Nation: USA
Flag: Image
Capital: Washington DC
Population: 324,120,300
Type of Government: Democratic Republic

Leadership

Leader: Brandon Kiser
Picture:
Age: 36
Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 180
Position/Title: President
Political Party: Republican
Most important goals for nation: Grow economy, rebuild America's stature, end ISIS.
Bio: WIP Was a former Marine and Congressman from Houston, Texas.

Economy

GDP: 19.1 Trillion
GDP Per Capita: 57,466
PPP: 18.56 trillion
Major Economic Sectors: Industrial, manufacturing, finance, technology, services, aircraft, military.
Major Exports: Computers, steel, technology, military gear, cars, aircraft, watercraft, other goods.
Major Imports: Steel, plastic goods, parts, cars.
Major Trade partners: EU, China, Japan, Australia, Canada, Mexico

Military
Total Active Duty: 1,373,650
Total Reserves: 990,025

Army
Uniform: Image
Tanks: 5,884
SPA: 1,934
Towed-Artillery: 1,299
MLRS: 1,331

Air Force
Uniform: Image
Fighter Jet: 2,296
Attack Aircraft: 2,785
Transport Aircraft: 5,739
Trainer Aircraft: 2,831
Helicopters: 6,065
Attack Helicopters: 947

Navy
Uniform: Image
Aircraft Carriers: 19
Frigates: 8
Destroyers: 63
Corvettes: 0
Submarines: 70
Patrol Craft: 13
Mine Warfare Vessel: 11
Cruisers: 25

Marines
Uniform:
Image

Nukes (y/n): Y

2000 - DO NOT REMOVE
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:37 pm

IC up soon.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:41 pm

Chewion wrote:IC up soon.



36 really? Can you at least put him in his 40s this time?
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Postby Chewion » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:43 pm

Dentali wrote:
Chewion wrote:IC up soon.



36 really? Can you at least put him in his 40s this time?

He was 41 but I felt adventurous. I’m debating it but I think it’ll be cool to have a young guy as President.
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