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Skarten
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Postby Skarten » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:30 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Skarten wrote:I meant as in general.People seem to be having a easier time consolidating power,so i don't think it would be "Unfair" for me to do it in a timeskip.I Did say he started consolidating power? Well,i don't think that in 15 years,nothing would've happened.


"In general" "people" "seem" "I don't think" are all fiercely subjective statements, which is the precise reason why I asked you to clarify what you meant by "People". As far as I am aware, those Authors who have striven for power in their respective states have not only taken (ICly and OOCly) time to do so, but also written informative and creative posts detailing how they are going about gaining that power. That is why I am loathe to hand Yaroshima control of the Confederacy, primarily.

It is not axiomatic in this RP that your Author will gain political power. Nor that any rise to power will be unopposed- of course, really. Remember, we are RPing people from the future, ourselves. People who, in the absence of being sent to the past, probably will never be anywhere near the seat of a government. Simply waiting does not entail strength. You have to tell us how you are struggling for that position, instead of adopting it merely by fiat.

IF I was a cruel OP, I would let you have your way. Yaroshima would try to seize power, without any particular direction or strategy, and his tribe would likely be crushed by her rivals within the confederation as his naked ambition became obvious for the other tribal entities to see. Without a plan, that is the likely outcome.

I am giving you an opportunity to RP a different outcome. It would be best if you take it.

@ Yatz: The entire population of Yamatzon that live in Yekrenia's capitol are unfailingly loyal, to the extent that they support their religion over their government?

*shrug* At this point I can calculate the difference in odds, but there's not much point in divulging them- if you keep modifying the plan, OOCly, until you seem like you will OOCly succeed, that's not really reflective of a strategy your Author would adopt, no?

A massive crowd of soldiers that likely cuts down the local law enforcement officers in the streets outside his house, of course. And any soldiers on patrol. Or his son in military garb who tries to halt their assault while home on leave from the frontlines with the Politburo. Probably the entire population won't take to the streets, but it is very doubtful that the people who live in the capitol of a nation will simply acquiesce to that nation being forcibly dissolved- assassination or outright assault.

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Magc is iffy because you then have to define what sort of magic you're using.


This is no small part of my concern.

As I see it, magic is likely to be a relatively uninventive crutch that adds little to our stories save an "easy out". Instead of having to RP recruiting tribe members, an Author simply compels a tribal chieftain to join with their cause. Instead of developing defensive structures to hold back an encroaching horde, the Author simply summons a wall of mystical force to repel the attackers. Instead of convincing locals to fight alongside them despite casualties and the maiming of family and friends through logic and a cause worth dying for, the Author simply heals any injuries their allies suffer.

Magic doesn't necessarily add anything to the plot, and more likely detracts from it, in my mind.

That said, I will put up a poll, just for you Rev.

Now,i understand that.But,woudn't have something changed in the 15 Years?
At least,Yaroshima would've won an considerable amount of power within the Confederacy.

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Postby Yatzatz » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:09 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:@ Yatz: The entire population of Yamatzon that live in Yekrenia's capitol are unfailingly loyal, to the extent that they support their religion over their government?

*shrug* At this point I can calculate the difference in odds, but there's not much point in divulging them- if you keep modifying the plan, OOCly, until you seem like you will OOCly succeed, that's not really reflective of a strategy your Author would adopt, no?

A massive crowd of soldiers that likely cuts down the local law enforcement officers in the streets outside his house, of course. And any soldiers on patrol. Or his son in military garb who tries to halt their assault while home on leave from the frontlines with the Politburo. Probably the entire population won't take to the streets, but it is very doubtful that the people who live in the capitol of a nation will simply acquiesce to that nation being forcibly dissolved- assassination or outright assault.

No, I'd say out of the roughly 500 Yamatzon in the capital I can trust about 200 of them.
Well, my original plan was bringing in gear slowly, then men slowly, then charge. That's still my plan right now. My plan is bringing in 350 men over a one-year period to then charge the Council hall with gear stored in the city. Still basically the original plan.
Given that plan, can I have an odds estimate?
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Revlona
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:39 am

Ralnis, I'm pretty sure our two realms would know of eachother, why not have a meeting between heads of states?
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:19 am

So my claims would be Djibouti, the northern part of the african horn, some parts of ethiopia, and the starights of mandeb on the arabian side
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:25 am

Revlona wrote:Ralnis, I'm pretty sure our two realms would know of eachother, why not have a meeting between heads of states?

I don't think we do and I'm far away that such a trip isn't feasible.

Revlona wrote:So my claims would be Djibouti, the northern part of the african horn, some parts of ethiopia, and the starights of mandeb on the arabian side

In five years? I expect some stiff resistance.
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:26 am

Ralnis wrote:
Revlona wrote:Ralnis, I'm pretty sure our two realms would know of eachother, why not have a meeting between heads of states?

I don't think we do and I'm far away that such a trip isn't feasible.

Revlona wrote:So my claims would be Djibouti, the northern part of the african horn, some parts of ethiopia, and the starights of mandeb on the arabian side

In five years? I expect some stiff resistance.


Didn't you do more in three years?


Also, the horn wouldn't be very densly populated, so not really
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:28 am

Ralnis wrote:
Revlona wrote:Ralnis, I'm pretty sure our two realms would know of eachother, why not have a meeting between heads of states?

I don't think we do and I'm far away that such a trip isn't feasible.


You said yourself rumors would spread
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:31 am

Revlona wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I don't think we do and I'm far away that such a trip isn't feasible.


In five years? I expect some stiff resistance.


Didn't you do more in three years?


Also, the horn wouldn't be very densly populated, so not really

My people focus on building the city-state, its indusrty and trading with the regional tribes and Nubians. I'm currently taking control of the local region for manpower and resources.

Revlona wrote:
Ralnis wrote:

I don't think we do and I'm far away that such a trip isn't feasible.


You said yourself rumors would spread


Of a man in black armor pillaging and raiding his way through Nubia. Not some Voodoo-practitioners on camels with crossbows and low-grade cast iron.
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:35 am

Ralnis wrote:
Revlona wrote:
Didn't you do more in three years?


Also, the horn wouldn't be very densly populated, so not really

My people focus on building the city-state, its indusrty and trading with the regional tribes and Nubians. I'm currently taking control of the local region for manpower and resources.


Revlona wrote:

You said yourself rumors would spread


Of a man in black armor pillaging and raiding his way through Nubia. Not some Voodoo-practitioners on camels with crossbows and low-grade cast iron.


Mine did too for two years, the next two years was a bit of warring, but a good bit of the conquest was through bribery and threats, and the last year there has been 0 violence and law and order has been introduced.

I only raided a couple villages
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:41 am

I had stayed in the Imperium longer to understand more technology and leave to start my state, thing is that my people aren't predominantly warriors and I want to have the infrastructure up and running to make those long trips.

On top of Nubians coming down in the next couple of years so I will have my hands full before I start coming to the Horn.
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:41 am

And it wasn't really in Nubia, we would have gathered all the supplies we needed before we reached nubia
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:42 am

Ralnis wrote:I had stayed in the Imperium longer to understand more technology and leave to start my state, thing is that my people aren't predominantly warriors and I want to have the infrastructure up and running to make those long trips.

On top of Nubians coming down in the next couple of years so I will have my hands full before I start coming to the Horn.


Pretty sure i was in the Imperium longer, you started after me didn't you?
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:46 am

Revlona wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I had stayed in the Imperium longer to understand more technology and leave to start my state, thing is that my people aren't predominantly warriors and I want to have the infrastructure up and running to make those long trips.

On top of Nubians coming down in the next couple of years so I will have my hands full before I start coming to the Horn.


Pretty sure i was in the Imperium longer, you started after me didn't you?

Sorry, I meant during the timeskip. Your the one who stayed in the Imperium the longest with me second I do believe.

Still, Nubians are going to set me back from expansion for years.
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:51 am

Ralnis wrote:
Revlona wrote:
Pretty sure i was in the Imperium longer, you started after me didn't you?

Sorry, I meant during the timeskip. Your the one who stayed in the Imperium the longest with me second I do believe.

Still, Nubians are going to set me back from expansion for years.


Aye, maybe if they become a bigger problem me and you can deal with them

I do believe i have the superiority in troops between the two of us, and in military tactics and strategy, though you edge me in civil technology
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:57 am

Pasong Tirad wrote:Full Name: Arsenio Lacson, or Arsenios Thalassos, as he's known
Age: He's supposed to be around 40, but he hasn't really aged a day over 25.
Appearance: Skin tone's on the darker side. Light brown eyes. His hair used to be straight, but now it's a lot more rugged, and his newer, messier hairstyle is now blending in with the curly-haired Mediterranean folk he's been around for the past fifteen years. He's pretty lean, but now a lot more athletic-looking for his body. He was born left-handed, but he got his pointer and middle fingers stuck in a door hinge when he was five (had to get a couple of stitches), so now he's kind of ambidextrous and writes with his right but still throws with his left. He's still unable to grow more facial hair than some tiny hairs on the sides of his mouth and on his chin.
Height and Weight: 5'7", he used to weigh around 145lbs, but now it's around 120-130lbs, given his more laborious daily routine.
Religion: Really lapsed Catholic
Field of Expertise: Theater, theater history, playwriting.
Skills and Strengths: He's quick on his feet, he thinks fast, has pretty good endurance (used to be able to run a 15k easy, now he can run 20k just as easily) and he's strong enough for a short and skinny dude. He's a good writer, able to do improv, is able to control a crowd (read: loud voice) and direct them (read: can sound bossy and authoritative) - was able to use this skill in battle once, too. Knowledgeable about history, especially Philippine history and theater history, as well as knowledge of Philippine politics. He's an experienced skirmisher, having led groups of javelinmen, slingers, and the like into battle a handful of times, is able to throw javelins a fair distance (not great, but definitely above average), and he's a pretty good crossbowman. He's also spent the last fifteen years mostly working as a kind of administrator/supervisor for Attika.
Weaknesses: He struggles with depression, has some mild anxiety, a bit on the anti-social side. He's kind of a coward, too, but if backed into a corner he does good enough - and he's working on the cowardice, seeing as he was able to lead men into battle once. The tradeoff being that his anxiety and his depression haven't much changed over the past 15 years, and he's now struggling to make sense of his faith in a world that now no longer made much sense. To top it all off, he still yearns so much to go home, and he's now very attached and protective of his curiously long-living dog (read: immortal), Manila.
Where in the world are you landing?: He landed south of Athinai.
RP Sample: From the old IC, my dude!

What's happened in the last fifteen years?
  • Formed a loose alliance (read: very interwoven trade network, and occasional defensive alliance) of Attican city-states between Athínai, Peraiós, the island of Salamís, Elefsís, and Dekéleia, with its "capital" (read: meeting place to discuss plans and disputes) at the Akrópolis (an Attikoi Alliance, if you will) and-
  • this aforementioned alliance decides on matters democratically through the delegates each city-state sends to the meeting, thanks to Arsenio sowing the seeds of democracy.
  • Formed a union between Athínai and Peraiós through Arsenio's marriage with the sister of Nikasios (who I'm yet to name lol)
  • More widespread use of bronze tools and weaponry through enlarged trade networks thanks to Salamis ships.
  • Flourishing of arts and culture in Athinai thanks to Arsenio's establishment of a "theater" (proto-theater, really) with Arsenio as the teacher of several students who wish to learn theater
  • Construction of wooden city walls around Athinai and Peraios, with plans in place to connect the two cities through another "long wall."
  • Expanded trade networks with the rest of Greece (read: soap and medicines from the Sympagis).
  • Establishment of a yearly celebration of all the city-states to celebrate the union, filled with games and exhibitions of art.

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D = Dekéleia
E = Elefsís
S = Salamís
P = Peraiós


If I qualify for it, I'd love my own tiny dot on that yuuuge map.

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:00 am

Revlona wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Sorry, I meant during the timeskip. Your the one who stayed in the Imperium the longest with me second I do believe.

Still, Nubians are going to set me back from expansion for years.


Aye, maybe if they become a bigger problem me and you can deal with them

I do believe i have the superiority in troops between the two of us, and in military tactics and strategy, though you edge me in civil technology

Nubians can be dealt with, but a pain nevertheless.

Yes for warfare, but civil and espionage are what I beat you at since I've been a spy in eleven years and two wars. So I've my agents, the Untouchables, to work like Imperial Eyes for me and help me flex my influence.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:01 am

Also, I voted Meh because I am really open to anything happening at this point if it gives me something to play off of and react to. I literally hugged and cried my dog into immortality and I'm a 40-year-old-but-really-just-a-25-year-old Filipino dude from the 21st century who got transported back to 30th century BCE Greece. If that ain't magic idk what is.

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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:02 am

Ralnis wrote:
Revlona wrote:
Aye, maybe if they become a bigger problem me and you can deal with them

I do believe i have the superiority in troops between the two of us, and in military tactics and strategy, though you edge me in civil technology

Nubians can be dealt with, but a pain nevertheless.

Yes for warfare, but civil and espionage are what I beat you at since I've been a spy in eleven years and two wars. So I've my agents, the Untouchables, to work like Imperial Eyes for me and help me flex my influence.


Aye, I do have the Cultist as my sort of Intelligence, but they are really only internal.
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 am

Pasong Tirad wrote:Also, I voted Meh because I am really open to anything happening at this point if it gives me something to play off of and react to. I literally hugged and cried my dog into immortality and I'm a 40-year-old-but-really-just-a-25-year-old Filipino dude from the 21st century who got transported back to 30th century BCE Greece. If that ain't magic idk what is.


I'm really happy people are seeing my point of view
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:15 am

Revlona wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Nubians can be dealt with, but a pain nevertheless.

Yes for warfare, but civil and espionage are what I beat you at since I've been a spy in eleven years and two wars. So I've my agents, the Untouchables, to work like Imperial Eyes for me and help me flex my influence.


Aye, I do have the Cultist as my sort of Intelligence, but they are really only internal.

What does your Cult entail except you being a god of justice?
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Postby Revlona » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:18 am

Ralnis wrote:
Revlona wrote:
Aye, I do have the Cultist as my sort of Intelligence, but they are really only internal.

What does your Cult entail except you being a god of justice?


They don't actually see him as a god, they see him as the prophet of god, the one who speaks with his voice.

But thats pretty much it, they feel it's there duty to dispense "Justice" where ever they are

Robert started it, but it kinda spiraled out of control forcing him to reign it in, he brought about 10 cultist with him when he deserted, and they have grown to about 200 in total.

The rest of the cultist are spreading throughout france and the Imperium carefully, awaiting his return
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Postby Labstoska » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:29 am

Hey there would it be alright if I began experimenting with steam power, because I know the principles of how it works but I'm not sure how to build one however that's what experimenting is for.

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:00 am

Revlona wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Also, I voted Meh because I am really open to anything happening at this point if it gives me something to play off of and react to. I literally hugged and cried my dog into immortality and I'm a 40-year-old-but-really-just-a-25-year-old Filipino dude from the 21st century who got transported back to 30th century BCE Greece. If that ain't magic idk what is.


I'm really happy people are seeing my point of view

But again, I'll be happy with whichever decision. The way things are are great, changing them could be great, too. Everything's great!

Except airships goddamn what the hell are those
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:02 am

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Revlona wrote:
I'm really happy people are seeing my point of view

But again, I'll be happy with whichever decision. The way things are are great, changing them could be great, too. Everything's great!

Except airships goddamn what the hell are those


*suborbital bombardment of Athenai commences*
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:05 am

I'm considering a concept idea, but I haven't really developed it. If there are "magic powers" I'd want it to relate to Immortality. A good example is quantum break where the protagonist/player is given time travel powers rather than becoming a magi pope.
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