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Vladivostokava
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Postby Vladivostokava » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:52 pm

Can I play as turians? It says reserved but maybe it has been sometime since they reserved it?
My name is Ava/Ewa I am from Poland.
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I am Polish born, American citizen, I live in China.

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Postby Segmentia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:54 pm

Vladivostokava wrote:Can I play as turians? It says reserved but maybe it has been sometime since they reserved it?


They've already been applied for.
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Vladivostokava
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Postby Vladivostokava » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:02 am

I am so sorry, I did not see that. I though maybe it was reserved long ago.
My name is Ava/Ewa I am from Poland.
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North America Inc
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:02 am

Segmentia wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Some of these were soldiers involved at the battle of earth where the destruction of Thessia, meant many sought new horizons. Mostly however I realized that the loss of democracy in the Asari Republics would not go over so well. Even though all three factions are fascist, I doubt that every Asari would be okay with that change. They have legal rights to vote and freedom of speech, things that no longer exist in Asari space. Also I imagined it as a small minority and most first sought the CItadel, but cheaper land down on the ground meant than small enclaves formed.

Ilium is not a democracy.


I think the soldiers especially wouldn't settle in a nation that voted for the shattering of their beloved Republics. I mean they would have been there fighting to liberate earth, dying for it and the galaxy at large, and then a few years later the humans vote for a Salarian, whose government did nothing or barely anything for the GA and earth, proposal that leads to the shattering of their species primary government, over the actions of a shadow cabal that the general public knew nothing about.

And while the Asari like democracy, I don't see large numbers of the species more or less abandoning the species in it's utmost time of need, lack of democracy or no.

But that's just me.

The soldier part is probably true.

But what? You think people won't leave a repressive government because of nationalism. The loss of individual liberties will cause them to leave, especially when its been ingrained in their societies for thousands of years. And well your point about Asaris not going to governments that had instilled their government sanctions. Well...tell that to the Germans who fled to the UK even though Versailles.

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Postby Segmentia » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:09 am

North America Inc wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
I think the soldiers especially wouldn't settle in a nation that voted for the shattering of their beloved Republics. I mean they would have been there fighting to liberate earth, dying for it and the galaxy at large, and then a few years later the humans vote for a Salarian, whose government did nothing or barely anything for the GA and earth, proposal that leads to the shattering of their species primary government, over the actions of a shadow cabal that the general public knew nothing about.

And while the Asari like democracy, I don't see large numbers of the species more or less abandoning the species in it's utmost time of need, lack of democracy or no.

But that's just me.

The soldier part is probably true.

But what? You think people won't leave a repressive government because of nationalism. The loss of individual liberties will cause them to leave, especially when its been ingrained in their societies for thousands of years. And well your point about Asaris not going to governments that had instilled their government sanctions. Well...tell that to the Germans who fled to the UK even though Versailles.


So you use the Jewish exodus from Germany as an example? No groups of Asari are being targeted by their government like the Jews were by the Nazis. No major round ups of groups other then the inefficient politicians who failed miserably at their jobs, and they weren't even executed, just imprisoned or otherwise removed from public view. There has been no government backed targeting of any group of Asari.

Pretty bad comparison.
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North America Inc
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:19 am

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So you use the Jewish exodus from Germany as an example? No groups of Asari are being targeted by their government like the Jews were by the Nazis. No major round ups of groups other then the inefficient politicians who failed miserably at their jobs, and they weren't even executed, just imprisoned or otherwise removed from public view. There has been no government backed targeting of any group of Asari.

Pretty bad comparison.

Okay how about North Koreans who flee to the US, even though the horrible hatred between the countries, Eastern Europeans who fled to the West even though they were betraying their country, German Intellectuals who left Nazi Germany, and I can go and on. Do you really think the loss of civil rights would see no large swaths of people being angry by it. The whole point of my inclusion into my bio is showing the greater diversity and displacement that we should expect after the destruction of the old order and a large war.

Also most of those Jews would of considered themselves German until the government stripped them of their rights like you did. You may not have targeted specific minorities, but the similar effects still stand. And the reason why I mention these Jews is because they still moved to locations like the United States that had less than favorable views of them, a la anti-antisemitism. So now the Asari are moving to the certain Asari enclaves within the HSA, like what we see in first generation immigrants.So its a pretty apt comparison.

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Postby Segmentia » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:37 am

About to head to bed so I'll only touch on a few points.

Most North Koreans who defect settle in South Korea, where the hatred is still existent but less intense. Also North Koreans live in near constant state of famine and other horrible conditions.

East Europeans, depends on what time period you are talking about. If during the Soviet Union, I again state that the Autocracy is very young, was more or less voted into power by the majority of those living in the Thessian Republics, and so far has a number of accomplishments under it's belt, such as rebuilding Thessia and the Athena Cluster. Civil liberties haven't been fully taken away, really only the right of a total democracy, and considering that the total democratic ideals from before no doubt helped form the shadow cabal that screwed everything up, it's understandable that people might have wanted a change.

I can't speak for the other two splinter factions, as their leaders seems to grab power much more swiftly after the war then the Autocracy did, but so far the Autocracy has a large degree of support from its citizens thus far, but that can change swiftly in the opening month's.

Typed a bit more then I had meant to, but I should really get to sleep now. Thanks for the interesting debate, can resume it in a few hours if you'd like, but might be wisest to move it to tgs so we stop cluttering the ooc.
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:51 am

Segmentia wrote:About to head to bed so I'll only touch on a few points.

Most North Koreans who defect settle in South Korea, where the hatred is still existent but less intense. Also North Koreans live in near constant state of famine and other horrible conditions.

East Europeans, depends on what time period you are talking about. If during the Soviet Union, I again state that the Autocracy is very young, was more or less voted into power by the majority of those living in the Thessian Republics, and so far has a number of accomplishments under it's belt, such as rebuilding Thessia and the Athena Cluster. Civil liberties haven't been fully taken away, really only the right of a total democracy, and considering that the total democratic ideals from before no doubt helped form the shadow cabal that screwed everything up, it's understandable that people might have wanted a change.

I can't speak for the other two splinter factions, as their leaders seems to grab power much more swiftly after the war then the Autocracy did, but so far the Autocracy has a large degree of support from its citizens thus far, but that can change swiftly in the opening month's.

Typed a bit more then I had meant to, but I should really get to sleep now. Thanks for the interesting debate, can resume it in a few hours if you'd like, but might be wisest to move it to tgs so we stop cluttering the ooc.

It really shouldn't be a debate, all I'm saying is the loss of individual liberties would see a dislocation of new ethnicities and groups. Its a small footnote of unimportant of a few thousand Asari, with greater implications for the world at large. That the makeup of the citizenry are changing and the old order of three governments and specific species being in charge no longer holds true.
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:55 am

Vladivostokava wrote:Can I play as turians? It says reserved but maybe it has been sometime since they reserved it?

You can play a Turian colony, I think you did that last time if I remember correctly.

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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:04 am

Ralnis wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Since I accept myself, what do you guys think of my app.

How would the Alliance view the existence of the Aristocracy? Would they try to take the Century system and stop their future plans for taking over the Hawking Eta Cluster?

Probably we would prefer to install some regime change because you are using technology from a war criminal organization.

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Postby Ralnis » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:40 am

North America Inc wrote:
Ralnis wrote:How would the Alliance view the existence of the Aristocracy? Would they try to take the Century system and stop their future plans for taking over the Hawking Eta Cluster?

Probably we would prefer to install some regime change because you are using technology from a war criminal organization.

Then it was a fun faction while it lasted, need to find a way to hide from N7 or Specters.
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North America Inc
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:43 am

Ralnis wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Probably we would prefer to install some regime change because you are using technology from a war criminal organization.

Then it was a fun faction while it lasted, need to find a way to hide from N7 or Specters.

SPECTRES have been centralized so no more badass space detectives.

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Postby Ralnis » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:48 am

North America Inc wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Then it was a fun faction while it lasted, need to find a way to hide from N7 or Specters.

SPECTRES have been centralized so no more badass space detectives.

Doesn't mean anything to a indie that's under-the-radar and no one should care about until they find out the tech they've been hiding.
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North America Inc
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:50 am

Ralnis wrote:
North America Inc wrote:SPECTRES have been centralized so no more badass space detectives.

Doesn't mean anything to a indie that's under-the-radar and no one should care about until they find out the tech they've been hiding.

Well, are you okay with bribing me to make me go away?

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Postby Ralnis » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:53 am

North America Inc wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Doesn't mean anything to a indie that's under-the-radar and no one should care about until they find out the tech they've been hiding.

Well, are you okay with bribing me to make me go away?

Is it monthly tribute?
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:53 am

Ralnis wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Well, are you okay with bribing me to make me go away?

Is it monthly tribute?

Yes.

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Postby Ralnis » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:54 am

North America Inc wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Is it monthly tribute?

Yes.

How much or of what percentage?
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Postby North America Inc » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:00 am

Ralnis wrote:
North America Inc wrote:Yes.

How much or of what percentage?

How important is your security to you?
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Postby Ralnis » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:02 am

North America Inc wrote:
Ralnis wrote:How much or of what percentage?

How important is your security to you?

Your actually going to protect me and vassalize me?
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The National Dominion of Hungary
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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:41 am

Any ETA on advantages and disadvantages? Would be good to know before we start splashing the cash.

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Codziennie się rozwijaj i nie daj się ogłupić,
Atakowi propagandy stawiaj czoło dzielnie,
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Postby Nuxipal » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:27 am

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Any ETA on advantages and disadvantages? Would be good to know before we start splashing the cash.


This is true. I did already however, create my first month economy.

Do we have a codex page that I missed?

North America Inc wrote:
Segmentia wrote:Why would large numbers of Asari immigrate to a nation where they are more or less viewed with scorn, and to live under a government that threw their species to to dogs? It would make more sense if that immigration was towards Illium more then anything, imo.

Some of these were soldiers involved at the battle of earth where the destruction of Thessia, meant many sought new horizons. Mostly however I realized that the loss of democracy in the Asari Republics would not go over so well. Even though all three factions are fascist, I doubt that every Asari would be okay with that change. They have legal rights to vote and freedom of speech, things that no longer exist in Asari space. Also I imagined it as a small minority and most first sought the CItadel, but cheaper land down on the ground meant than small enclaves formed.

Ilium is not a democracy.


We held elections! Besides, Illium has all those personal liberties they are looking for and then some!

Hell, Illium's surface was mostly unscathed from the Reaper War.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:09 am

@ Nux: Not yet, no. Presumably that will be up after Bonuses/Debonuses.

I’m just putting together an intro post, personally, no need to hit mechanics just yet.
TG if you have questions about RP. If I don't know the answer, I know someone who does.

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Postby Nuxipal » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:20 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:@ Nux: Not yet, no. Presumably that will be up after Bonuses/Debonuses.

I’m just putting together an intro post, personally, no need to hit mechanics just yet.


I may do the same if the IC is not up by the time I come home tonight after work. I'm working on my codex page.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:23 am

Nuxipal wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:@ Nux: Not yet, no. Presumably that will be up after Bonuses/Debonuses.

I’m just putting together an intro post, personally, no need to hit mechanics just yet.


I may do the same if the IC is not up by the time I come home tonight after work. I'm working on my codex page.


The IC is already up :P
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Nuxipal
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Postby Nuxipal » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:24 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Nuxipal wrote:
I may do the same if the IC is not up by the time I come home tonight after work. I'm working on my codex page.


The IC is already up :P


-.- I missed that then.
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