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by Narintia » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:39 am
by New Papan » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:40 am
by Heidi Girl of the Alps » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:41 am
by Tracian Empire » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:49 am
Heidi Girl of the Alps wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Iberian Confederation
Territory: All of Iberia+ Balearic Islands, Azores, Canary Islands, Madeira Islands, Cape Verde Islands, Cuba, Hispanola, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Coast of Mozambique, Coast of Angola
#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)
*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.
by Tracian Empire » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:51 am
by Plzen » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:59 am
New Papan wrote:-snip-
by Remnants of Exilvania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:46 am
by Plzen » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:20 am
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Considering that we both lack a land border and are thus able to use our army however we please, I might just crush myself a Poland.
And then trade Poland for peace with Russia.
by Shogunate of the Uzumaki Empire » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:46 am
Uzumakistani News: Prime Minister Aoroza Yoshisada have made a official apology for the threat that they made last year regarding the Uzumaki-Slavonian War and shall requested for a cease-fire until any further notice. | The Parliament have recognized the Patriotic Citizens Coalition of Uzumakistan as a Youth Wing but controversy of Mass Murder, Rape and Genocide have spread throughout the world. | The Republic of Ovamboland have been proclamed in Northern Namibia only to be governed by Leopold Nesselrode and has been officially recognized as a Autonomous Republic within the Empire.
by Shogunate of the Uzumaki Empire » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:48 am
Uzumakistani News: Prime Minister Aoroza Yoshisada have made a official apology for the threat that they made last year regarding the Uzumaki-Slavonian War and shall requested for a cease-fire until any further notice. | The Parliament have recognized the Patriotic Citizens Coalition of Uzumakistan as a Youth Wing but controversy of Mass Murder, Rape and Genocide have spread throughout the world. | The Republic of Ovamboland have been proclamed in Northern Namibia only to be governed by Leopold Nesselrode and has been officially recognized as a Autonomous Republic within the Empire.
by New Papan » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:36 am
Plzen wrote:Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Considering that we both lack a land border and are thus able to use our army however we please, I might just crush myself a Poland.
And then trade Poland for peace with Russia.
As far as I know Russia doesn't have designs on Poland, though? If the Teutons become embroiled in a war against Poland it makes them more vulnerable to Russia.
It's pretty much the same reason why I can't just recall everything from the Scandinavian East Indies and crush your smaller navy; threat of a third-party intervention.
by Tracian Empire » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:53 am
New Papan wrote:Plzen wrote:As far as I know Russia doesn't have designs on Poland, though? If the Teutons become embroiled in a war against Poland it makes them more vulnerable to Russia.
It's pretty much the same reason why I can't just recall everything from the Scandinavian East Indies and crush your smaller navy; threat of a third-party intervention.
If the Teutonic Order wants to prevent Poland from approaching Scandinavia or even more so, having it on friendly terms, it should support the Polish Catholic Church and the Przywrócenie Narodowe faction. Its leader Adam Jerzy Czartoryski will stress the religious ties in trying to get foreign support from catholic countries such as its neighbor to the North.
by The Traansval » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:20 am
by Axis Asteroid » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:56 am
The Traansval wrote:Well, seeing as how there's probably not going to be a Napoleonic France or a Hapsburg Austria, it's time to delve into some ancient Dutch history and start from the bottom.
by Remnants of Exilvania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:09 am
Tracian Empire wrote:New Papan wrote:
If the Teutonic Order wants to prevent Poland from approaching Scandinavia or even more so, having it on friendly terms, it should support the Polish Catholic Church and the Przywrócenie Narodowe faction. Its leader Adam Jerzy Czartoryski will stress the religious ties in trying to get foreign support from catholic countries such as its neighbor to the North.
I haven't had the time to check your app, but would you be alright with the idea of granting Poland more land, maybe along the lines of the border that interwar Poland had with Russia? Both in order to increase your chances of survival, and in order to resize the borders of Russia a little. Narintia is alright with the idea.
by New Papan » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:35 am
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:I haven't had the time to check your app, but would you be alright with the idea of granting Poland more land, maybe along the lines of the border that interwar Poland had with Russia? Both in order to increase your chances of survival, and in order to resize the borders of Russia a little. Narintia is alright with the idea.
Maybe he can also have the sizeable chunk of Lithuania that I left open.
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:51 am
by Axis Asteroid » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:00 pm
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Full Nation Name : Western Roman Empire [official]
Latin Empire
Holy Roman Empire
L'impero romano d'Occidente (Italian; "Western Roman Empire") [official]
Il Senato e il popolo romano (Italian; "Senate and people of Rome")
Saran e Suant (Dalmatian; "Serene and Holy")
I depotuti e el poplo veste (Dalmatian; "The delegates and the people of the West") [official]
Juan Raigno (Dalmatian; "Young Kingdom"- contrasted with the "Old" Greek empire- "Vicla Raigno")
Majority/Official Culture : Italo-Dalmatian
Territorial Core : [urlblob:https://imgur.com/217d0658-2a2c-40ff-86a0-8913f3249f22]Here[/url]
Territorial Claim : [[OPTIONAL]] Technically the rest of the Western Empire, but for all intents and purposes let's say Sicily, Malta, Sardinia, Corsica, and the Baleares
Capital City : Rome
Population : ~25,000,000
- Italy ~ 20,000,000
- West Balkans ~ 2-3 mil, but boosted due to diverged history
Government Type : Exarchate
Government Ideology/Policies : Nationalism, Commercialism, Mercantilism
Government Focus : Culture and wealth are the main focuses of the Italian Caesardom. With a long tradition of craftsmanship and trade, with autonomous polities feuding back and forth over who had better paintings and architecture being but one example of this tradition continued throughout time. Despite being, under its foundation, a military governorship granted by the crown in Constantinople, it has been long since any expansion has occurred, the resources instead devoted to the aforementioned culture and wealth.
Head of State : Alessandra Udaina
Head of Government : above
Government Description : An exarchate, the government was initially a military governorship bestowed by the crown in Constantinople. Since that point, it has fallen under various relations and military uprisings and varying influencing factions until everyone forgot what it started as and it became de facto hereditary. At the moment, it is run much like the proper Eastern empire- a highly administrative absolute monarchy with a couple of autonomous regions.
Majority/State Religion : Latin-Rite Christianity, but with freedom of worship
Religious Description : Under the watchful eyes of the Patriarch of Rome, this is a Chalcedonian creed that never went extinct- within the borders of the exarchate it had instead managed to prevent its drift from the Greek Rite to a schismatic degree. It still bears resemblance to run-of-the-mill Catholicism, but remains more tolerant of imperial authority and Hellenic idolatry.
Economic Ideologies : State Capitalism, with some regulation applying to all parties (including the state)
Major Production : Dyes, luxury items, processed/precision goods
Economic Description : A specialized economy for turning raw goods into expensive things other people show off with, and turning water into fine, the Italian economic situation is generally prosperous and competitive- albeit, for how prosperous it is, it is also niche and specialized. It does what it does very well, but doesn't do other things very well at all. The army will sure look sharp in those silk uniforms with carefully hand-etched brass!
Tech Group : European
Army Description : The army is a carry-over from the Eastern themata, with military subdivisions and land grants ensuring a localized and battle-ready force is always prepared to be drawn up on the borders. Unlike the Eastern Empire, however, the themata follow regional powers and centers of conflict, conforming to what was, at times, only nominally subject city-based powers. Each city, thus, carries its own military legacy and rivalries. The military is largely modernized, perhaps moreso than the Eastern soldiers, due to proximity to the West and even the legacy of the Latins upon it. Being a frontier region, an exarchate, also gave an early emphasis on military development within it to the court at Constantinople. As a result of the localized military, the army as a whole is generally decentralized and grouped by place of origin, rather than forming large and diverse regiments. The discipline, however, suffers not.
Army Weakness : The army is highly decentralized and localized, leading to smaller units with less diversity. To some degree, this bears closer similarity to a series of alliances rather than a proper and unified standing army. Thus, what it has in discipline and modern technology, it lacks in structure and comprehensiveness.
Naval Description : The navy originated as an anti-pirate measure, but grew with ideals of trade. Somewhat limited in number due to the naval focus of the Eastern emperors traditionally, it consists of much of the same types of ships and structure. Its primary goal in existing is to ward off the Vandals and to protect trade in the Mediterranean, and can conscript civilian ships when necessary.
Naval Weakness : Similar to the army, the navy is localized and, as a result, disorganized. Each "theme" can harbor a treasure fleet of its own, and historically the power of naval projection was emphasized, but over the past couple of centuries the navy has generally been in decline. While still functional and capable of doing its base duties, it relies on the East in times of war to provide the bulk of its strength. Due to the mercantile origins of much of the navy, it consists largely of high-cargo light ships retrofitted to be military vessels, rather than having started with military use in mind.
Further Military Description :[urlhttps://pics.me.me/italian-landmine-moments-after-detonation-colorized-1944-war-is-so-12805252.png]experimental technology[/url]
National Goals : Ascendancy to Co-Emperorship, glory, and wealth
National Issues : Being a lot weaker than the Eastern empire by a large, large margin in most regards, and certainly being far from the most industrial and populous of European nations
National Figures of Interest : Tuone di Ragusa, Giorgio da Firenze, Leo d'Arezzo, Leo Farantouri
National Ambition/Aspirations : Gloria in excelsis populo
Rival: A bit too early to be declaring this, there's barely even anyone nearby!
History : WIP
RP Sample: past AD threads
#AltDiv
by Tracian Empire » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:48 pm
Name | Personnel | Subordinate units | Officer in command |
Stratevma | ~160,000 | ~2 Themata | Protostrategos |
Thema | ~80,000 | ~2 Legeonai | Strategos |
Legeona | ~40,000 | ~2 Tagmata | Legatos |
Tagma | ~20,000 | ~2 Menarchiai | Domestikos |
Menarchia | ~9,600 | ~4 Tourmai | Menarches |
Tourma | ~2,400 | ~6 Droungoi | Tourmarches |
Droungos | ~400 | ~2 Banda | Droungarios |
Bandon | ~200 | ~2 Kentarchiai | Komes |
Kentarchia | ~100 | ~2 Pentekentarchiai | Kentarches |
Pentekentarchia | ~50 | ~5 Kontoubernia | Pentekontarches |
Kontoubernion | ~10 | N/A | Dekarchos |
by Axis Asteroid » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:13 pm
by Remnants of Exilvania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:18 pm
New Papan wrote:Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Maybe he can also have the sizeable chunk of Lithuania that I left open.
Judging from this it sounds like Poland could look like this:
This would probably make me rethink Poland a bit...considering Vilnius would be within its borders and a large Lithuanian minority a survived Commonwealth is possible. Maybe not the smaller, expansionist and nationalist Polish state I imagined that would escalate wars it probably wouldn't win.
by Remnants of Exilvania » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:22 pm
by Elerian » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:32 pm
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Btw, can someone check up on my military numbers?
I am currently basing them on Prussian Army and Landwehr numbers from 1814.
by Axis Asteroid » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:32 pm
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Btw, can someone check up on my military numbers?
I am currently basing them on Prussian Army and Landwehr numbers from 1814.
by Axis Asteroid » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:47 pm
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:New Papan wrote:
Judging from this it sounds like Poland could look like this:(Image)
This would probably make me rethink Poland a bit...considering Vilnius would be within its borders and a large Lithuanian minority a survived Commonwealth is possible. Maybe not the smaller, expansionist and nationalist Polish state I imagined that would escalate wars it probably wouldn't win.
Yes...yes...embrace the multi-ethnic state! Embrace the problems with Lithuanian, Belorussian and Ukrainian minorities!
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