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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:15 pm

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Hansdeltania wrote:Not OP nor CoOP, but I would suggest using the English names and/or acronyms of certain units because I had to do look up what the Sepah-e qods was. A simple "Qods Force" would have sufficed. I also had no idea what NEZSA and NEZAJA were until I searched it up. Even then, it was only a very rough understanding, as I think NEZAJA might be the Islamic Republic of Iran Army but I can't confirm.


Ah yes, i can understand. Personally I prefer original names, but i'll see if I can make it a bit more clear.
The Islamic Republic of Iran Army is called either Artesh or AJA. NEZAJA is Islamic Republic of Iran Army Ground Forces and NEZSA is Ground Forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Dayganistan wrote:An automatic rifleman uses a machine gun not an assault rifle because their role is to provide suppressing fire. For Iran that would be either the RPK, RPD, PKM or MG3. Or MAYBE an M249 taken from an Iraqi armory.


Oh boy... I'm no expert on military roles and couldn't find much on automatic rifleman, Wikipedia eventually directed me to automatic rifles which were just the usual assault rifles. I'll have to see what to do with it. Might change weapon or I might as well add a drum magazine to the AK.

Automatic Rifleman is just a more proper way of saying Machinegunner. You'll need to use Squad Automatic Weapons or a Light Machine Gun. A regular AK-47, AKM, or AK-74 are not capable of mechanically taking the punishment of sustained fire and would be harmed by using them like a SAW or LMG.
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Postby Lord of The Rings » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:26 pm

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Ah yes, i can understand. Personally I prefer original names, but i'll see if I can make it a bit more clear.
The Islamic Republic of Iran Army is called either Artesh or AJA. NEZAJA is Islamic Republic of Iran Army Ground Forces and NEZSA is Ground Forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.



Oh boy... I'm no expert on military roles and couldn't find much on automatic rifleman, Wikipedia eventually directed me to automatic rifles which were just the usual assault rifles. I'll have to see what to do with it. Might change weapon or I might as well add a drum magazine to the AK.

Automatic Rifleman is just a more proper way of saying Machinegunner. You'll need to use Squad Automatic Weapons or a Light Machine Gun. A regular AK-47, AKM, or AK-74 are not capable of mechanically taking the punishment of sustained fire and would be harmed by using them like a SAW or LMG.


Hmm... I'll have to see what to do then.

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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:33 pm

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Insaeldor wrote:Automatic Rifleman is just a more proper way of saying Machinegunner. You'll need to use Squad Automatic Weapons or a Light Machine Gun. A regular AK-47, AKM, or AK-74 are not capable of mechanically taking the punishment of sustained fire and would be harmed by using them like a SAW or LMG.


Hmm... I'll have to see what to do then.

From what I can tell your best bet would be use the RPK-74M
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Postby Lord of The Rings » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:42 pm

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Hmm... I'll have to see what to do then.

From what I can tell your best bet would be use the RPK-74M


That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

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Postby Anowa » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:44 pm

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Insaeldor wrote:From what I can tell your best bet would be use the RPK-74M


That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

About the same.
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Postby Kyraina » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:44 pm

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Insaeldor wrote:From what I can tell your best bet would be use the RPK-74M


That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs
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Postby Dayganistan » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:46 pm

Kyraina wrote:
Lord of The Rings wrote:
That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs

I'd take that too if I was making a machine gunner from a military that has access to it, which Iran does.
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:52 pm

Lord of The Rings wrote:
Insaeldor wrote:From what I can tell your best bet would be use the RPK-74M


That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

Essentially anything that can fit on an AK-74M will fit on the RPK-74M. It depends on what you want, but using the PO 4x17, PK01-VS, 1P63/PK1 Obzor, or Kobra would probably be best.
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Postby Lord of The Rings » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:53 pm

Kyraina wrote:
Lord of The Rings wrote:
That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs


Hmm, i'll check It out.

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Postby Lord of The Rings » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:54 pm

Anowa wrote:
Lord of The Rings wrote:
That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

About the same.


Insaeldor wrote:
Lord of The Rings wrote:
That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

Essentially anything that can fit on an AK-74M will fit on the RPK-74M. It depends on what you want, but using the PO 4x17, PK01-VS, 1P63/PK1 Obzor, or Kobra would probably be best.


I see, thanks!

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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:58 pm

Kyraina wrote:
Lord of The Rings wrote:
That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs


Dayganistan wrote:
Kyraina wrote:
Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs

I'd take that too if I was making a machine gunner from a military that has access to it, which Iran does.


No reason for Iran not to use the RPK-74M given that it's currently an observing member of CSTO, it can use AK-74 and other AK derived magazines chambered In 5.45mm. Plus the Russia would possibly be making the move toward the RPK-16 so it wouldn't be out of the question for then to start getting a hold of them as military aid.

The MG3 is light for what it is but it's far less versatile than the RPK series.
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Postby Kyraina » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:55 pm

Insaeldor wrote:
Kyraina wrote:Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs


Dayganistan wrote:I'd take that too if I was making a machine gunner from a military that has access to it, which Iran does.


No reason for Iran not to use the RPK-74M given that it's currently an observing member of CSTO, it can use AK-74 and other AK derived magazines chambered In 5.45mm. Plus the Russia would possibly be making the move toward the RPK-16 so it wouldn't be out of the question for then to start getting a hold of them as military aid.

The MG3 is light for what it is but it's far less versatile than the RPK series.

Yes and no as Camp Lemonier will have a bigger reserve if 7.62x51 then it will CommBloc ammo
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Postby Revlona » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:56 pm

Anyone we still waiting on?
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Postby Dayganistan » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:33 pm

Insaeldor wrote:
Kyraina wrote:Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs


Dayganistan wrote:I'd take that too if I was making a machine gunner from a military that has access to it, which Iran does.


No reason for Iran not to use the RPK-74M given that it's currently an observing member of CSTO, it can use AK-74 and other AK derived magazines chambered In 5.45mm. Plus the Russia would possibly be making the move toward the RPK-16 so it wouldn't be out of the question for then to start getting a hold of them as military aid.

The MG3 is light for what it is but it's far less versatile than the RPK series.

I don't know, I'm just not a fan of mag fed LMGs. Although Russia has 60 round quad stack 5.45 mags and hundred round 5.45 drums now too so the decreased ammo capacity is less of an argument.

At the same time though, Iran doesn't use 5.45 at all and has no plans of making the switch as they have AR-15 clones of acceptable quality that they domestically produce in large numbers and are also license producing the AK-103.
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Postby Hansdeltania » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:04 pm

Kyraina wrote:
Lord of The Rings wrote:
That might work. Any idea on what attachments are available for it? Or a place where I could search for myself? Had a three hour long search to figure out what was available for the AK-103M and honestly I really don't want to go through that pain again.

Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs

It's literally an MG-42 that the Germans modified into 7.62 NATO.
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Postby Dayganistan » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:13 pm

Hansdeltania wrote:
Kyraina wrote:Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs

It's literally an MG-42 that the Germans modified into 7.62 NATO.

They also reduced the rate of fire to a more manageable 1000 rounds per minute rather than the 1200-1500 of the MG42.
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:14 pm

Dayganistan wrote:
Hansdeltania wrote:It's literally an MG-42 that the Germans modified into 7.62 NATO.

They also reduced the rate of fire to a more manageable 1000 rounds per minute rather than the 1200-1500 of the MG42.

But it's also 23 pounds
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Postby Kyraina » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:19 pm

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Dayganistan wrote:They also reduced the rate of fire to a more manageable 1000 rounds per minute rather than the 1200-1500 of the MG42.

But it's also 23 pounds

Light as hell compared to the 240
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Postby Kyraina » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:20 pm

Hansdeltania wrote:
Kyraina wrote:Personally I would use the MG3 over anything else as it's fast fire rate, quick change barrel, and fairly light compared to most LMGs

It's literally an MG-42 that the Germans modified into 7.62 NATO.

And so was the M60
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Postby Dayganistan » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:21 pm

Or just go with the PKM which is in the same class as the 240 and MG3 but only weighs 16 and a half pounds, possibly even lighter if you use a polymer stock rather than the wood one.
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Postby The Central Shadow Nation » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:49 pm

"Another one"

Tag. App in bound. What roles do we need here? Looks like you have alot of sharpshooters so I cant copy in my character from TFR
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Postby Anowa » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:10 pm

The Central Shadow Nation wrote:"Another one"

Tag. App in bound. What roles do we need here? Looks like you have alot of sharpshooters so I cant copy in my character from TFR

Autoriflemen, Medics.
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Postby Revlona » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:29 pm

Has everyone posted?
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Postby Anowa » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:33 pm

Revlona wrote:Has everyone posted?

Tayner
Fantrum
Vacif
Kyraina
Nations United For Conquest
Grand Vietnam
The Grand Rift
and Arengin have yet to do so.

Not to mention that the whole of Siren-3 is doing a co-write.
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Postby Revlona » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:35 pm

Anowa wrote:
Revlona wrote:Has everyone posted?

Tayner
Fantrum
Vacif
Kyraina
Nations United For Conquest
Grand Vietnam
The Grand Rift
and Arengin have yet to do so.

Not to mention that the whole of Siren-3 is doing a co-write.


Well damn
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