Broken Arrow (OOC|Special Forces|Open)

[Relikai]

Keep the telepathy in game bois, especially if such actions would override or force team leaders to adapt because team cohesion's going to be disrupted from their own plans

[Insaeldor]

the fact that Semyonova and Beidges are the only ones with semi-automatic marksman rifles triggers me.

Hey so I have a repeating paragraph because of some NS BS can I delete it real quick?

Lemme see first and then I can TG Anowa.

Keep the telepathy in game bois, especially if such actions would override or force team leaders to adapt because team cohesion's going to be disrupted from their own plans

Who said anything about Telepathy? I just asked a hypothetical because Day would probably be one of the few sharpshooters able to fully take atvangage of that kind of situation.

[Insaeldor]

Kk wysten you're Gucci to edit.

[Kyraina]

the fact that Semyonova and Beidges are the only ones with semi-automatic marksman rifles triggers me.

Hey so I have a repeating paragraph because of some NS BS can I delete it real quick?

Lemme see first and then I can TG Anowa.

Keep the telepathy in game bois, especially if such actions would override or force team leaders to adapt because team cohesion's going to be disrupted from their own plans

Who said anything about Telepathy? I just asked a hypothetical because Day would probably be one of the few sharpshooters able to fully take atvangage of that kind of situation.

Beidges? And what does only having two DMRs trigger you

[Insaeldor]

the fact that Semyonova and Beidges are the only ones with semi-automatic marksman rifles triggers me.



Lemme see first and then I can TG Anowa.


Who said anything about Telepathy? I just asked a hypothetical because Day would probably be one of the few sharpshooters able to fully take atvangage of that kind of situation.

Beidges? And what does only having two DMRs trigger you

*bridges

It's triggering because out of all the sharpshooters/snipers/marksman we have only two have the advantages that semi-auto DMR's bring for a squad. Out of 6 soldiers equipped with longer range rifles 4 have dedicated bolt-action sniper rifles which limits their ability to engage enemies in ways that would be more helpful to the mission overall.

Note: it's not bad nor is it a squad killer it's just something that triggers my tism

[Relikai]

Well, some prefer to have rifles which do not jam as easily as a semi-automatic with multiple moving parts, affecting stability when doing long range precision shooting. No doubt semi-autos are better at close range, but further out I suppose reality would side with the bolt-action's simplicity and solid stability.

Also, being mission specific situations when considering the ratio and weight of firepower/weaponry per squad, this could either be a close-range mission or a long-range sniping mission since the team wasn't briefed about anything including location or giving the troops time to consider their optimal loadout until they were moments before landing (Much video game), meaning there was no time to consider changing to a weapon better fit for a low-visibility environment with plenty of foliage or cover.

[Insaeldor]

Well, some prefer to have rifles which do not jam as easily as a semi-automatic with multiple moving parts, affecting stability when doing long range precision shooting. No doubt semi-autos are better at close range, but further out I suppose reality would side with the bolt-action's simplicity and solid stability.

Also, being mission specific situations when considering the ratio and weight of firepower/weaponry per squad, this could either be a close-range mission or a long-range sniping mission since the team wasn't briefed about anything including location or giving the troops time to consider their optimal loadout until they were moments before landing (Much video game), meaning there was no time to consider changing to a weapon better fit for a low-visibility environment with plenty of foliage or cover.

I'm not disputing bolt-actions are better at precision long range shooting. Although most modern Semi-Automatic DMR's are extremely reliable and unless you were using some sorta 60 year old spam can surplus you'd be able to be on par with bolt action rifles in terms of reliability.

I just don't see the need for 4 long range precision snipers for any mission. I'd think 2 max for something like a march across the mountains of Afghanistan.

[Wysten]

Well, some prefer to have rifles which do not jam as easily as a semi-automatic with multiple moving parts, affecting stability when doing long range precision shooting. No doubt semi-autos are better at close range, but further out I suppose reality would side with the bolt-action's simplicity and solid stability.

Also, being mission specific situations when considering the ratio and weight of firepower/weaponry per squad, this could either be a close-range mission or a long-range sniping mission since the team wasn't briefed about anything including location or giving the troops time to consider their optimal loadout until they were moments before landing (Much video game), meaning there was no time to consider changing to a weapon better fit for a low-visibility environment with plenty of foliage or cover.

I'm not disputing bolt-actions are better at precision long range shooting. Although most modern Semi-Automatic DMR's are extremely reliable and unless you were using some sorta 60 year old spam can surplus you'd be able to be on par with bolt action rifles in terms of reliability.

I just don't see the need for 4 long range precision snipers for any mission. I'd think 2 max for something like a march across the mountains of Afghanistan.

Wait I thought me a NUC were the only bolt action snipers?

[Dayganistan]

Beidges? And what does only having two DMRs trigger you

*bridges

It's triggering because out of all the sharpshooters/snipers/marksman we have only two have the advantages that semi-auto DMR's bring for a squad. Out of 6 soldiers equipped with longer range rifles 4 have dedicated bolt-action sniper rifles which limits their ability to engage enemies in ways that would be more helpful to the mission overall.

Note: it's not bad nor is it a squad killer it's just something that triggers my tism

It's kind of triggering to me as well that we have four bolt action rifles but only one machine gun. Ideally every squad should have at least one and no more than two machine guns.

[Relikai]

Well, some prefer to have rifles which do not jam as easily as a semi-automatic with multiple moving parts, affecting stability when doing long range precision shooting. No doubt semi-autos are better at close range, but further out I suppose reality would side with the bolt-action's simplicity and solid stability.

Also, being mission specific situations when considering the ratio and weight of firepower/weaponry per squad, this could either be a close-range mission or a long-range sniping mission since the team wasn't briefed about anything including location or giving the troops time to consider their optimal loadout until they were moments before landing (Much video game), meaning there was no time to consider changing to a weapon better fit for a low-visibility environment with plenty of foliage or cover.

I'm not disputing bolt-actions are better at precision long range shooting. Although most modern Semi-Automatic DMR's are extremely reliable and unless you were using some sorta 60 year old spam can surplus you'd be able to be on par with bolt action rifles in terms of reliability.

I just don't see the need for 4 long range precision snipers for any mission. I'd think 2 max for something like a march across the mountains of Afghanistan.

On extended missions where timings could be unpredictable, two teams of two would be extremely valuable to prevent eye fatigue from setting in, and relieving the sniper of the constant stress of watching a target.

Unless we already know how long a mission would take, or if there is a set amount of time for a mission to take place like the Battle of Mog ending within an hour or two instead of dragging into the night and till the next day.

Which is why I will question - No briefing about location which could influence the loadout of weapons and roles of individual squad members. My character for example could operate as a sniper, a recon, and everyone's basic rifleman role. Depending on average weapon ranges and the possibility of having obscured vision, a different weapon would be picked, perhaps a semi-automatic DMR which allows for quicker acquisition of targets within close quarters as well as suppressing fire against targets hiding in the foliage.

Location and Terrain - A deciding factor in choosing of weapon loadouts. Something learnt in playing Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (1998). Urban or jungle? Could be the difference in being able to fire a bolt-action once every two seconds, or a semi-automatic to clear targets quickly.

The IC mentioned that only three minutes was allowed to get to the plane, which means little time to consider specific loadouts. Letting that slide, it gives no intel, no chance to switch to a different weapon, forcing players and characters to go 'as they are' without sufficient time to fine tune and adapt to proper equipment.

[Kyraina]

I'm not disputing bolt-actions are better at precision long range shooting. Although most modern Semi-Automatic DMR's are extremely reliable and unless you were using some sorta 60 year old spam can surplus you'd be able to be on par with bolt action rifles in terms of reliability.

I just don't see the need for 4 long range precision snipers for any mission. I'd think 2 max for something like a march across the mountains of Afghanistan.

Wait I thought me a NUC were the only bolt action snipers?

Reli I using a R700/M40/M24 (all the same rifle), you and NuC are both using 300 WinMags, while Day has a SVD and I a MK14

[Insaeldor]

I'm not disputing bolt-actions are better at precision long range shooting. Although most modern Semi-Automatic DMR's are extremely reliable and unless you were using some sorta 60 year old spam can surplus you'd be able to be on par with bolt action rifles in terms of reliability.

I just don't see the need for 4 long range precision snipers for any mission. I'd think 2 max for something like a march across the mountains of Afghanistan.

On extended missions where timings could be unpredictable, two teams of two would be extremely valuable to prevent eye fatigue from setting in, and relieving the sniper of the constant stress of watching a target.

Unless we already know how long a mission would take, or if there is a set amount of time for a mission to take place like the Battle of Mog ending within an hour or two instead of dragging into the night and till the next day.

Which is why I will question - No briefing about location which could influence the loadout of weapons and roles of individual squad members. My character for example could operate as a sniper, a recon, and everyone's basic rifleman role. Depending on average weapon ranges and the possibility of having obscured vision, a different weapon would be picked, perhaps a semi-automatic DMR which allows for quicker acquisition of targets within close quarters as well as suppressing fire against targets hiding in the foliage.

Location and Terrain - A deciding factor in choosing of weapon loadouts. Something learnt in playing Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (1998). Urban or jungle? Could be the difference in being able to fire a bolt-action once every two seconds, or a semi-automatic to clear targets quickly.

The IC mentioned that only three minutes was allowed to get to the plane, which means little time to consider specific loadouts. Letting that slide, it gives no intel, no chance to switch to a different weapon, forcing players and characters to go 'as they are' without sufficient time to fine tune and adapt to proper equipment.

But Reli, would a mission requiring a unit the size of Siren Platoon really need sniper teams to preform such a task? This seems like a unit dedicated to direct action operations and the like. Those missions are valuable and needed but they don't seem to fit the wheelhouse of a unit this size.

[Wysten]

Wait I thought me a NUC were the only bolt action snipers?

Reli I using a R700/M40/M24 (all the same rifle), you and NuC are both using 300 WinMags, while Day has a SVD and I a MK14

Yeah I can get behind a good amount of people going DMR but I can't get behind people think bolt action is the be all end all weapon it's not. It's a sniper's weapon and that's pretty much it you can't really use it as a suppressing weapon or really any other thing besides taking out people at a slow rate.

[Anowa]

Just a heads up. ICly your characters aren't aware of the awareness of OPFOR.

[Dayganistan]

Reli I using a R700/M40/M24 (all the same rifle), you and NuC are both using 300 WinMags, while Day has a SVD and I a MK14

Yeah I can get behind a good amount of people going DMR but I can't get behind people think bolt action is the be all end all weapon it's not. It's a sniper's weapon and that's pretty much it you can't really use it as a suppressing weapon or really any other thing besides taking out people at a slow rate.

I blame video games and movies for making snipers with bolt action rifles out to be the ultimate badass killing machines. When in reality most kills are caused by inaccurate suppressing fire, air power, and indirect fire support. And well yes, you did have snipers in WWII who have upwards of 1000 kills, they're the exception not the rule.

[The Batavia]

Yeah I can get behind a good amount of people going DMR but I can't get behind people think bolt action is the be all end all weapon it's not. It's a sniper's weapon and that's pretty much it you can't really use it as a suppressing weapon or really any other thing besides taking out people at a slow rate.

I blame video games and movies for making snipers with bolt action rifles out to be the ultimate badass killing machines. When in reality most kills are caused by inaccurate suppressing fire, air power, and indirect fire support. And well yes, you did have snipers in WWII who have upwards of 1000 kills, they're the exception not the rule.

Snipers are overrated, seriously.

[Relikai]

Yeah I can get behind a good amount of people going DMR but I can't get behind people think bolt action is the be all end all weapon it's not. It's a sniper's weapon and that's pretty much it you can't really use it as a suppressing weapon or really any other thing besides taking out people at a slow rate.

I blame video games and movies for making snipers with bolt action rifles out to be the ultimate badass killing machines. When in reality most kills are caused by inaccurate suppressing fire, air power, and indirect fire support. And well yes, you did have snipers in WWII who have upwards of 1000 kills, they're the exception not the rule.

Can we not come to the reductionist assumption that all players want to be lean mean killing machines instead of doing on site HUMINT and reconnaissance which a Sniper's role is ideal for?

Just a heads up. ICly your characters aren't aware of the awareness of OPFOR.

When roles are sorted out, can Recon-roles have a report of what they can see?

[Lord of The Rings]

Full Name: Omar Majidi
Rank: First Warrior [Sepāh-e qods]
Gender: Male
Birthdate: 15th of February, 1985 [34]
Birthplace: Karaj
Nationality: Iranian
Educational Degrees:

• Diplom-Motevaseth [High school diploma] [General]
• Fogh-e-Diplom [Associate Degree] [Technical]

Description: (Things not evident by the character image, things like height, weight, scars, tattoos, etc.)
Criminal Background:

• N/A [He is considered a terrorist by some countries due to his service with the NEZSA and Sepāh-e qods]

Medical History:

• kidney removal surgery [Transplant] [26th of June, 2001]
• Gunshot treatment to the shoulder [22nd of November 2011]
• Fractured shoulder [22nd of November 2011]
• Fractured wrist [22nd of November 2011]
• Fractured jaw [12th of August 2013]
• Cardiopulmonary resuscitation [8th of October, 2015]
• Fragmentation treatments to the back, upper legs, lower legs and neck [17th of February 2018 - 23rd of July 2018]

Prior Service History:

• Basij [Volunteer] [1999 - 2007]
• NEZAJA / Iran Army Ground Force [Conscription] [2005 - 2007]
• NEZAJA / Iran Army Ground Force [2007 - 2013]
  
  
  • Sistan and Baluchestan Regional Conflict [Dec.2010 - May.2013]
• NEZSA / IRGC Ground Force [2013 - 2016]
  
  
  • Iraq-Daesh War [Apr.2014 - Oct.2015]
    • Operation Ashura
    • Second Battle of Tikrit
• Sepāh-e qods / Quds Force [2016 - 2020]
  
  
  • Syrian Conflict [Feb.2016 -/- Nov.2019]
    • Battle of al-Qaryatayn
    • Battle of Deir ez-Zor
  • Lebanon-Daesh War [Jun.2016 - Aug.2017]
    • Qalamoun offensive

Qualifications:

• Basic Military Training [Certified]
• First Aid [Certified]
• Advanced Military Training [Certified]
• Mountain Warfare [Certified]
• Winter Warfare [Certified]
• Urban Warfare [Certified]
• Reconnaissance [Certified]
• Desert Warfare [Certified]
• Patrolling [Certified]
• Interrogation [Certified]
• Special Forces Training [Certified]
• Asymmetric Warfare [Certified]
• CBRN Defence [Certified]
• Drone Operator [Certified]
• Negotiation [Uncertified - Advanced experience]
• EOD [Uncertified - Basic experience]

Operational Role: Automatic Rifleman
Psychological Evaluation:
Biography:

Equipment:

• Type III Ballistic Vest
• Tactical Vest
• Kevlar Helmet
• thermographic Monitor
• Gas Mask
• Balaclava
• Ballistic Mask
• Pixelated Arid-Desert Pattern Uniform
• Pixelated Woodland Pattern Uniform
• Pixelated Urban Pattern Uniform

Primary Weapon: AK-103M

• Obzor 1P63
• knife-bayonet

Secondary Weapon: PC-9 ZOAF

• Sound Suppressor

Tertiary Weapon: knife-bayonet
Additional Munitions:

• F-1 Fragmentation Grenade [2]
• RDG-2Ch Smoke Grenade [3]
• RDG-2Kh Irritant Gas Grenade [2]

WIP

[Wysten]

I blame video games and movies for making snipers with bolt action rifles out to be the ultimate badass killing machines. When in reality most kills are caused by inaccurate suppressing fire, air power, and indirect fire support. And well yes, you did have snipers in WWII who have upwards of 1000 kills, they're the exception not the rule.

Can we not come to the reductionist assumption that all players want to be lean mean killing machines instead of doing on site HUMINT and reconnaissance which a Sniper's role is ideal for?

Just a heads up. ICly your characters aren't aware of the awareness of OPFOR.

When roles are sorted out, can Recon-roles have a report of what they can see?

I can assume that me and NUC are recon?

[Insaeldor]

I blame video games and movies for making snipers with bolt action rifles out to be the ultimate badass killing machines. When in reality most kills are caused by inaccurate suppressing fire, air power, and indirect fire support. And well yes, you did have snipers in WWII who have upwards of 1000 kills, they're the exception not the rule.

Can we not come to the reductionist assumption that all players want to be lean mean killing machines instead of doing on site HUMINT and reconnaissance which a Sniper's role is ideal for?

Just a heads up. ICly your characters aren't aware of the awareness of OPFOR.

When roles are sorted out, can Recon-roles have a report of what they can see?

And how much of that are we doing, and does it justify the sheer amount of marksman we have in the platoon when we could have a more diverse platoon?

[Relikai]

Can we not come to the reductionist assumption that all players want to be lean mean killing machines instead of doing on site HUMINT and reconnaissance which a Sniper's role is ideal for?



When roles are sorted out, can Recon-roles have a report of what they can see?

I can assume that me and NUC are recon?

Recon roles can be filled by anyone. Recon roles can be assigned by team leaders to anyone best suited for environment, linguistics, culture and adaptability. No use sending a character specialised in desert warfare into the jungle for recon, nor an urban/desert specialist into the Arctic.

[Wysten]

I can assume that me and NUC are recon?

Recon roles can be filled by anyone. Recon roles can be assigned by team leaders to anyone best suited for environment, linguistics, culture and adaptability. No use sending a character specialised in desert warfare into the jungle for recon, nor an urban/desert specialist into the Arctic.

Alright

[Arengin Union]

Cause of course.

[Relikai]

But Reli, would a mission requiring a unit the size of Siren Platoon really need sniper teams to preform such a task? This seems like a unit dedicated to direct action operations and the like. Those missions are valuable and needed but they don't seem to fit the wheelhouse of a unit this size.

Sniper Teams or Recon Teams do invaluable on-site reconnaissance while the main force waits for information updates. In an ideal scenario, local forces allied to Siren would provide local recon, sniper support (Using the same recon guys), logistical aid (Vehicles) as basics. In such a case like this scenario, Siren would most probably be setting up somewhere to wait on standby while recon was being done on the camp to decide numbers, building identification, assets like vehicles and the SCUD, a task which could take hours.

Direct Action Ops, while the name emphasizes the nature of the Op, would still have snipers. If an excess was decided, soldiers are EXPECTED to switch roles with the knowledge of their operation, equip up the proper way, familiarize themselves with the weapon and loadout before leaving with the team. No one guarantees a 100% efficiency from them, but they would still be expected to fulfill the basic role of the Rifleman which there can never be a surplus of.

Snipers fulfill the role of recon better due to their standard training and equipment to operate from a longer range, alone and with little support from a parent unit, and the emphasis to stay concealed. They know Observational Spots better than the grenadier, they can hide better than the operator with the standard thinking because of the training wired into them.

In our unique case, tasks and soldier classes has been accepted and rostered by the OP. However I did take into account the need to reduce the number of snipers which is why my char has a secondary class or so, and maybe Anowa knows (or flowed with it), and even when Operational Role stands for one, multiple roles were apped and accepted, allowing a level of versatility among players and their characters to adapt to the needs of the day.

[Dayganistan]

Best solution in my opinion is put the snipers with bolt action rifles into their own separate sniper cell, leaving the two designated marksman with semi auto rifles in the regular squads.