Washington 2017 Political RP [CLOSED] OOC Pt. VIII

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

The man is literally a caricature of Governor Williams...

With some extra molesting and even more craziness.

On a side note with Moore and this guy being pedos, will Williams be outed as one too?

Governor Williams has erectile dysfunction ever since a wound in 'Nam, so no.

[Main Nation Ministry]

With some extra molesting and even more craziness.

On a side note with Moore and this guy being pedos, will Williams be outed as one too?

Governor Williams has erectile dysfunction ever since a wound in 'Nam, so no.

Maybe Williams should time travel to 'Nam War and prevent Nixon from being president or whatever.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Governor Williams has erectile dysfunction ever since a wound in 'Nam, so no.

Maybe Williams should time travel to 'Nam War and prevent Nixon from being president or whatever.

Why? He would time travel to make George Wallace capable of deciding that election.

[Dentali]

Maybe Williams should time travel to 'Nam War and prevent Nixon from being president or whatever.

Why? He would time travel to make George Wallace capable of deciding that election.

He would accidentally travel too far back get trapped and become George Wallace's father

[Main Nation Ministry]

Maybe Williams should time travel to 'Nam War and prevent Nixon from being president or whatever.

Why? He would time travel to make George Wallace capable of deciding that election.

It would be like Life on Mars.

[Uttland]

Why? He would time travel to make George Wallace capable of deciding that election.

He would accidentally travel too far back get trapped and become George Wallace's father

Back to the Segregation South

[Dentali]

He would accidentally travel too far back get trapped and become George Wallace's father

Back to the Segregation South

In the words of Moore "The good days when we had slavery"

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Only 3 states have majorities disapproving of same sex marriage now.

Sippi(Of course)
West Virginia
Arkansas(Just barely)

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

My 20,000th post!

[NewLakotah]

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Character Information Sheet

NS Nation Name: NewLakotah
Character Name: Samuel Begay
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 45
Character Height: 5'6
Character Weight: 155
Character Position/Role/Job: Freshman US Representative
Appearance: (Image)
Character State of Origin: Oklahoma
Character State of Residence: Oklahoma
Character Party Affiliation: Democratic Party
Main Strengths: Strong-willed, intelligent, aggressive, independent. And is a visible minority
Main Weaknesses: too independent and doesn't entirely care about the "party line", can be stubborn and lacks official policy understanding and experience
Biography: Samuel "Sam" Begay was born on the Comanche Indian Reservation in Oklahoma. He struggled as his family grew up poor, as most Native Americans did. Not long after his 6th birthday his parents divorced, leaving Begay with his mother and 2 younger siblings. At age 16, he dropped out of high school, working odd jobs here and there, seeing no future at all on the reservation. However, after barely scrapping by for almost 2 years. His best friend went off and joined the military. Seeing his way off the reservation and a way to really start a new life and make money, he tried the same thing. However, he was rejected for dropping out of high school. He went back to studying and got his G.E.D, before attending a local community college to get some college credits before enlisting in the US Army as a 19D Calvary Scout. He passed basic and eventually would go onto the 82nd Airborne Division, starting as an E-1.

Despite the initial shock of military life, he soon grew used to it and actually began to enjoy it. He deployed overseas apart of Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm, where he saw his first action He received his promotion to Specialist, and decided to try and make a career out of the military possibly. he returned home and was allowed to attend university at the University of Oklahoma while in the reserves. He graduated with a B.A in Economics and a minor in Arabic in 1995 at the age of 23. By 2001 he had remained in the military and attended Ranger School in 1997. After 9/11, he was sent over to Afghanistan where he received the Bronze Star and a Purple Heart. It wasn't a terribly serious wound, shrapnel from an IED while on patrol in a Humvee. However, afterwards he returned back to Ft. Bragg. His enlistment ended in 2003, and Samuel decided not to renew it and left the military as a Staff Sergeant. He returned home to his native Oklahoma where he bounced from meaningless job to job, trying to adjst back to civilian life and working a "real" job for the first time in his life. His struggles with PTSD didn't help at all, as he pushed people away and turned to alcoholism.

His fortunes changed when he met Lucia, a recent graduate from Law School at Oklahoma and a fellow Comanche Indian. She motivated Samuel to get back into the swing of things, as well as to start to go to Church. Soon after he officially was baptized and confirmed into the Catholic Church. In 2004 he joined the Norman Police Department, moving up in positions quickly, and after a few years made the SWAT team in Norman. He enjoyed the work, moving up in the ranks of the Police quickly and eventually moving into the management as he got older. IN 2014 he left the police as a Captain. Upon leaving, he returned back to his Reservation home with his now young family with 2 kids and started to work to help his people. He started his work for the Tribal government in 2014 before leaving that position in 2016. He left because he felt that he could do more. Help his people, and all the Native Tribes in a way that no one had done before, at the highest levels of government. He chose to run for office for the US House of Representatives in the 4th District of Oklahoma. He ran as a Democrat, but ran on a moderate platform, as Oklahoma was a generally red-state. His moves paid off. He started as a major underdog, but won over the small, but important Native American and minority votes of the district early. His platform was based around a lot of social conservatism, based around his Catholicism, and openly talked about how he opposed abortion. That won over many more of the swing voters of the district. What also helped was his status as both a Military veteran and combat veteran, as well as a Police Captain serving in Norman, Oklahoma. He soon started to rise in the polls and on election day, squeaked out a victory, 49.5% - 48.9%. The results went into a recount, and the victory wasn't official until early the next day. His first months as an elected official, he was keep a very quiet and low profile. Feeling his way into office and figuring out how the roles and rules of politics work. Being from an out of the way state like Oklahoma makes him much less of a target. However, he is increasing motivated and agitated about issues dealing with Native treaties, territory and wellbeing. Becoming very vocal when such issues arise.
Do Not Remove: 84721

Hey NL, long time no see.

You might want to add an extra year or two on him to make sure he can get in in time for Desert Storm.


San's got it right on this-all of Oklahoma's congressional seats are very deep red. Running as an extreme Blue Dog, its just within the realm of possibility that he might make it, but it'd be easier to solidify if he got some incumbency behind him, maybe going for his run in 2012 when the Dems had a better year in the House. Oklahoma still has a (rapidly fading) Dem tradition+registration, so you've got the strategy right, if he runs as a rock-hard pro-life, pro-military, pro-oil candidate, he can probably slip in.

Yeah, been awhile.

From what I had, that should put him at 19. I could add a year I guess and put him at around 20, if you like.

And yes, I definitely understand that its a deep, crimson red state. However, I personally don't know how much a difference 2012 vs. 2016 would be for an election for a dem in Oklahoma. Its not exactly a swing area that would get adjusted by those types of national changes. He is definitely a Blue Dog Democrat. Very similar to Jim Webb. Anti-abortion and somewhat socially conservative for the most part which takes out much of the reasons why the centre-right base votes Republican. I mean, he is Catholic. He is also opposed to gun-control as much as a democratic candidate really could be. At least, not as pro-gun control as most democrats. I also think that moderate stance, partnered with a veteran status and retired police status would boast his likability ratings among most conservative voters. His D-status and minority status as an Indian would definitely ensure the minority votes and the small Liberal votes would be in his corner, and his pro-military and socially conservative, pro-strong military positions would gain him the moderate votes. Evangelical voters at worst wouldn't be turned off by him because of his views, and could swing some of them over, particularly the younger conservative Christian voters.

And its Oklahoma, yes, he is pro-oil.

[Uttland]

Dee Snider vs. PMRC full hearing

Dee Snider vs. PMRC tl;dr version

Just a beautiful take down of excessive regulation on music. Love the causal Tipper Gore take downs

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Hey NL, long time no see.

You might want to add an extra year or two on him to make sure he can get in in time for Desert Storm.


San's got it right on this-all of Oklahoma's congressional seats are very deep red. Running as an extreme Blue Dog, its just within the realm of possibility that he might make it, but it'd be easier to solidify if he got some incumbency behind him, maybe going for his run in 2012 when the Dems had a better year in the House. Oklahoma still has a (rapidly fading) Dem tradition+registration, so you've got the strategy right, if he runs as a rock-hard pro-life, pro-military, pro-oil candidate, he can probably slip in.

Yeah, been awhile.

From what I had, that should put him at 19. I could add a year I guess and put him at around 20, if you like.

And yes, I definitely understand that its a deep, crimson red state. However, I personally don't know how much a difference 2012 vs. 2016 would be for an election for a dem in Oklahoma. Its not exactly a swing area that would get adjusted by those types of national changes. He is definitely a Blue Dog Democrat. Very similar to Jim Webb. Anti-abortion and somewhat socially conservative for the most part which takes out much of the reasons why the centre-right base votes Republican. I mean, he is Catholic. He is also opposed to gun-control as much as a democratic candidate really could be. At least, not as pro-gun control as most democrats. I also think that moderate stance, partnered with a veteran status and retired police status would boast his likability ratings among most conservative voters. His D-status and minority status as an Indian would definitely ensure the minority votes and the small Liberal votes would be in his corner, and his pro-military and socially conservative, pro-strong military positions would gain him the moderate votes. Evangelical voters at worst wouldn't be turned off by him because of his views, and could swing some of them over, particularly the younger conservative Christian voters.

And its Oklahoma, yes, he is pro-oil.

Maybe it would be more appropraite to put him in West Virginia?

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

He could be the West Virginia Democratic Senator

[NewLakotah]

He could be the West Virginia Democratic Senator

He's not running for senate. Not to mention that it doesn't entirely make sense for him to move off to West Virginia just to run for congress.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

He could be the West Virginia Democratic Senator

He's not running for senate. Not to mention that it doesn't entirely make sense for him to move off to West Virginia just to run for congress.

I do not think you understand, you can app for the WV Democratic Senator right off the bat.

How about you make some changes to the app, and make him born in WV instead of OK. Just replace oil with coal, and add some economic liberalness here and there and you will get an interesting character.

[Tallahassee News Station]

Hey NL, long time no see.

You might want to add an extra year or two on him to make sure he can get in in time for Desert Storm.


San's got it right on this-all of Oklahoma's congressional seats are very deep red. Running as an extreme Blue Dog, its just within the realm of possibility that he might make it, but it'd be easier to solidify if he got some incumbency behind him, maybe going for his run in 2012 when the Dems had a better year in the House. Oklahoma still has a (rapidly fading) Dem tradition+registration, so you've got the strategy right, if he runs as a rock-hard pro-life, pro-military, pro-oil candidate, he can probably slip in.

Yeah, been awhile.

From what I had, that should put him at 19. I could add a year I guess and put him at around 20, if you like.

And yes, I definitely understand that its a deep, crimson red state. However, I personally don't know how much a difference 2012 vs. 2016 would be for an election for a dem in Oklahoma. Its not exactly a swing area that would get adjusted by those types of national changes. He is definitely a Blue Dog Democrat. Very similar to Jim Webb. Anti-abortion and somewhat socially conservative for the most part which takes out much of the reasons why the centre-right base votes Republican. I mean, he is Catholic. He is also opposed to gun-control as much as a democratic candidate really could be. At least, not as pro-gun control as most democrats. I also think that moderate stance, partnered with a veteran status and retired police status would boast his likability ratings among most conservative voters. His D-status and minority status as an Indian would definitely ensure the minority votes and the small Liberal votes would be in his corner, and his pro-military and socially conservative, pro-strong military positions would gain him the moderate votes. Evangelical voters at worst wouldn't be turned off by him because of his views, and could swing some of them over, particularly the younger conservative Christian voters.

And its Oklahoma, yes, he is pro-oil.

It's mostly the state of the Democratic party that you're going to be working with that's going to be big. In 2012, you can pick up the Dem Presidential votes and "only" need to swing another 15% or so, with a decent condition to run from. In 2016, you're basically starting from scratch, and trying to fight off the party's crappy rep.

I also realize I left this out of the first bit, but I'd recommend trying him for the 2nd, as he can go Dem-Dem in 2012 rather than trying to unseat two decades of the GOP in a GOP wave year. It's got the highest Native American population of any of the OK districts, and decent Dem registration.

He's not coming in with any name rec or cash, which means we've gotta try to find a perfect situation for him, which means a great opening year, and hopefully finding something (oil $$$, maybe), to give him a fighting chance at keeping it.

It's a heck of a thing to try, fitting in a Dem Rep in a crimson red district like that, especially with the hammering they took in 2016, so if its gonna work, it'll be some work to find a way.

[Sanabel]

It would just be nigh impossible for him to win in this district as a Democrat.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

It would just be nigh impossible for him to win in this district as a Democrat.

That is why I am suggesting for him to make the character the West Virginia Democratic Senator.

[Tallahassee News Station]

New Mexico is an option right next door, they've got a pretty heavy Native American population, districts he could actually have a shot at winning, and we have a very active Senator from the state for interaction

[Main Nation Ministry]

I forgot what's going on IC.

[NewLakotah]

Yeah... was trying to go for a minority Native American character to pull off an upset in a generally red *(or blue technically would work, but went Dem for this) district and have to try and push past those hurdles of dealing with constituents on one side, and the party line and whip on the other. But yeah, probably deep red OK was too far.

[Sanabel]

Yeah... was trying to go for a minority Native American character to pull off an upset in a generally red *(or blue technically would work, but went Dem for this) district and have to try and push past those hurdles of dealing with constituents on one side, and the party line and whip on the other. But yeah, probably deep red OK was too far.

This is actually a really common trope in this RP. Don't worry, it happens.

[Tallahassee News Station]

NN vote is going to be tight. Chewy apparently isn't going to show up for Kiser's vote so'll have to work with what we've got. Getting in Brennan's vote would be helpful

[Tallahassee News Station]

That might clinch it

[Tallahassee News Station]

That definitely will seal it