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Postby Sanabel » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:22 am

I would direct you to the website, but I seem to have lost the link.

Anyway, the thing Denisevich is referring to mostly is the no fly zone in Syria.
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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:25 am

Sanabel wrote:I would direct you to the website, but I seem to have lost the link.

Anyway, the thing Denisevich is referring to mostly is the no fly zone in Syria.


Ah okay.
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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:59 am

I hope that was okay. I’m a little unclear on the policy exactly, but I think I found a debate post from the president that kind of hinted on his agenda. If I messed up on anything I can take a second look and try to find more details about Syria, ISIS, and Russia.
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Postby Prolieum » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:01 am

Pantorrum wrote:I hope that was okay. I’m a little unclear on the policy exactly, but I think I found a debate post from the president that kind of hinted on his agenda. If I messed up on anything I can take a second look and try to find more details about Syria, ISIS, and Russia.


Reed had a series of foreign policy rallies early in the summer of the campaign period. I will see if I can find and link those to you after Reed's White House response.
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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:04 am

Prolieum wrote:
Pantorrum wrote:I hope that was okay. I’m a little unclear on the policy exactly, but I think I found a debate post from the president that kind of hinted on his agenda. If I messed up on anything I can take a second look and try to find more details about Syria, ISIS, and Russia.


Reed had a series of foreign policy rallies early in the summer of the campaign period. I will see if I can find and link those to you after Reed's White House response.


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Postby Vaquas » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:18 am

At this point its just Carter, Fowler, Lane, and Egazarian correct?
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:20 am

Now that I'm thinking about vote count, If the GOP holds 61 Senate Seats, even if Brankers Defects, wouldn't this fail even if they had the whole party line on board?

62 votes is not 2/3...
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Postby Dentali » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:21 am

Vaquas wrote:At this point its just Carter, Fowler, Lane, and Egazarian correct?



EGzy has agreed with the criticisms but has not committed to the vote either way. Lane is the big one however because of her leadership role.
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Postby Dentali » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:23 am

Vaquas wrote:Now that I'm thinking about vote count, If the GOP holds 61 Senate Seats, even if Brankers Defects, wouldn't this fail even if they had the whole party line on board?

62 votes is not 2/3...


it wont pass absent defections from the dems and progs.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:24 am

Vaquas wrote:Now that I'm thinking about vote count, If the GOP holds 61 Senate Seats, even if Brankers Defects, wouldn't this fail even if they had the whole party line on board?

62 votes is not 2/3...

GOP does not have 61 seats.

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:25 am

Vaquas wrote:Now that I'm thinking about vote count, If the GOP holds 61 Senate Seats, even if Brankers Defects, wouldn't this fail even if they had the whole party line on board?

62 votes is not 2/3...


The GOP has 66 seats with two of those vacant, so 64.

The bill needs Dems/Indies to pass
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:27 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Vaquas wrote:Now that I'm thinking about vote count, If the GOP holds 61 Senate Seats, even if Brankers Defects, wouldn't this fail even if they had the whole party line on board?

62 votes is not 2/3...


The GOP has 66 seats with two of those vacant, so 64.

The bill needs Dems/Indies to pass


What seats does the GOP have that are not listed on the Map?

Also, that seems like it simply isn't going to happen, blocking this is all the Dems can do to put up a fight against Reed and strike a blow.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:27 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Vaquas wrote:Now that I'm thinking about vote count, If the GOP holds 61 Senate Seats, even if Brankers Defects, wouldn't this fail even if they had the whole party line on board?

62 votes is not 2/3...


The GOP has 66 seats with two of those vacant, so 64.

The bill needs Dems/Indies to pass


You have to probably subtract Mann from Ill. So 63.

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Postby Dentali » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:28 am

Vaquas wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
The GOP has 66 seats with two of those vacant, so 64.

The bill needs Dems/Indies to pass


What seats does the GOP have that are not listed on the Map?

Also, that seems like it simply isn't going to happen, blocking this is all the Dems can do to put up a fight against Reed and strike a blow.


Hazelponi is an Aye vote
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:29 am

Vaquas wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
The GOP has 66 seats with two of those vacant, so 64.

The bill needs Dems/Indies to pass


What seats does the GOP have that are not listed on the Map?

Also, that seems like it simply isn't going to happen, blocking this is all the Dems can do to put up a fight against Reed and strike a blow.


Besides the one floating seat the map should have all of them except NY
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:29 am

Dentali wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
What seats does the GOP have that are not listed on the Map?

Also, that seems like it simply isn't going to happen, blocking this is all the Dems can do to put up a fight against Reed and strike a blow.


Hazelponi is an Aye vote

Back to 64+Brankers, they need 2 Dems

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Oh, Overstein hasn't resigned yet, forgot that.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:Oh, Overstein hasn't resigned yet, forgot that.

He is retching violently in the Senate bathroom at the moment.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:32 am

Looking at Mann's record he would probably vote nay on the budget amendment. So that is one perhaps pivotal defection.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:35 am

If the amendment fails Reed will probably blame Fowler.

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Postby Vaquas » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:35 am

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Looking at Mann's record he would probably vote nay on the budget amendment. So that is one perhaps pivotal defection.


I have to say, this thing looks like its going to die on the Altar of Zachary Fowler and Democratic Obstruction.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:36 am

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Looking at Mann's record he would probably vote nay on the budget amendment. So that is one perhaps pivotal defection.


Er

"While there he supported numerous cuts to budget spending"


That record?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:38 am

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Looking at Mann's record he would probably vote nay on the budget amendment. So that is one perhaps pivotal defection.


Er

"While there he supported numerous cuts to budget spending"


That record?

Hold on someone TG Cristo and get Mann's vote. He ran as a huge economic liberal during the campaign I am not sure he would support the amendment.

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:39 am

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Er



That record?

Hold on someone TG Cristo and get Mann's vote. He ran as a huge economic liberal during the campaign I am not sure he would support the amendment.


He signed on to the Prosperity caucus supporting a balanced budget.

Also ran on cutting spending

"I will cut the fat out of or bloated budget"


Seems pretty cut and dried.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:41 am

I will support for a decrease of our nation's maximum corporate income tax from 35%, to 25%. Every day that we have that ridiculously high tax in place, we lose productive corporations such as Glencare, which support and unite communities like the one we have here. let's not view big business as a boogey man or an enemy - let us view it as intrinsic pillar of what holds up these United States. Thank you all, God Bless. "


Yeah, Kelvi, I think you're thinking of something else
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