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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:17 pm

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Do you remember way earlier in the RP, when Fowler was going around making enemies from everyone, and had this budget idea with him that cut like half a trillion dollars, and that everyone would absolutely hate?

Yeah, Fowler had secretly converted Lane against the amendment because of spending worries (which was way cool) and now Spicy's chekhov's gunning Fowler's own proposal back at him by showing it to lane (even more cool)

Manipulation and craziness!

:clap:

Well played.




Yea... thing is Lane and I already had a chat about my budget and shes fine with it
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:18 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:What? I gotta see this.


Do you remember way earlier in the RP, when Fowler was going around making enemies from everyone, and had this budget idea with him that cut like half a trillion dollars, and that everyone would absolutely hate?

Yeah, Fowler had secretly converted Lane against the amendment because of spending worries (which was way cool) and now Spicy's chekhov's gunning Fowler's own proposal back at him by showing it to lane (even more cool)

Manipulation and craziness!

I'm so lost XD
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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:18 pm

Dentali wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote: :clap:

Well played.




Yea... thing is Lane and I already had a chat about my budget and shes fine with it


If true then damn.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:18 pm

Dentali wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote: :clap:

Well played.




Yea... thing is Lane and I already had a chat about my budget and shes fine with it

This is seriously about to come back to haunt Fowler. Big time.
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Postby Uttland » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:19 pm

Dentali wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote: :clap:

Well played.




Yea... thing is Lane and I already had a chat about my budget and shes fine with it

Lane never met with Fowler, I'm sure of it
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:20 pm

Dentali wrote:
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"Carter, Kiser, Fowler, Egzarian, Lane, Breckenridge and more "


Eg and Carter haven't been seen but they're listed.

Apparently he thinks Kiser is a Senator



Chewie was insistent Kiser be included, and i figured itd help to have a prominent rep on the list


Prominent rep?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:21 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Dentali wrote:


Yea... thing is Lane and I already had a chat about my budget and shes fine with it

This is seriously about to come back to haunt Fowler. Big time.

Reed at this point would probably prefer Danders over Fowler in the next Senate election. He would rather get a useless backbench Dem than a Republican out to torpedo his agenda.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:22 pm

Vermonters really have a terrible track record in this RP.

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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:22 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:This is seriously about to come back to haunt Fowler. Big time.

Reed at this point would probably prefer Danders over Fowler in the next Senate election. He would rather get a useless backbench Dem than a Republican out to torpedo his agenda.



Christ all Fowler wanted to do was fix the bill....
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:22 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Vermonters really have a terrible track record in this RP.

for the whole party unity thing.

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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:23 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Vermonters really have a terrible track record in this RP.

Vermont, Ohio, Texas...
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:23 pm

Dentali wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Reed at this point would probably prefer Danders over Fowler in the next Senate election. He would rather get a useless backbench Dem than a Republican out to torpedo his agenda.



Christ all Fowler wanted to do was fix the bill....


It really shouldn't be surprising that blackmail isn't a productive way to fix things....
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:24 pm

Dentali wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Reed at this point would probably prefer Danders over Fowler in the next Senate election. He would rather get a useless backbench Dem than a Republican out to torpedo his agenda.



Christ all Fowler wanted to do was fix the bill....

Fowler literally made the amendment both too harsh and toothless at the same time. Who is to stop 2/3rds of Congress just ganging up and just continue to declare states of emergencies? Pork barrel spending is very popular.

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Postby Sanabel » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:24 pm

It was smart of Fowler to pick up the special needs crew to support their bill.

Eggy, Carter, and Lane are impossible to whip against.

Breck can be pried.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:25 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Vermonters really have a terrible track record in this RP.

Vermont, Ohio, Texas...

Gianna is the only person who broke party unity from Ohio, not sure why Texas is there.

Literally every major Vermonter thus far has caused a civil war in their party.

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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:25 pm

After reading the amendment itself, I dont see much of an issue. It decreases federal spending by 10% annually. Though this would actually be problematic, as 10% of $1 trillion is very different than 10% of say $800 billion, so exponentially this would take a while to decrease
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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:25 pm

Sanabel wrote:It was smart of Fowler to pick up the special needs crew to support their bill.

Eggy, Carter, and Lane are impossible to whip against.

Breck can be pried.


San going full Denisevich :shock:
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:26 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:Vermont, Ohio, Texas...

Gianna is the only person who broke party unity from Ohio, not sure why Texas is there.

Literally every major Vermonter thus far has caused a civil war in their party.

List wasn't exclusive to party unity.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:26 pm

Sanabel wrote:It was smart of Fowler to pick up the special needs crew to support their bill.

Eggy, Carter, and Lane are impossible to whip against.

Breck can be pried.

Egazarian literally has not said anything about it, the hell
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:26 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Gianna is the only person who broke party unity from Ohio, not sure why Texas is there.

Literally every major Vermonter thus far has caused a civil war in their party.

List wasn't exclusive to party unity.

Oh... The list makes far more sense now.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:27 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Sanabel wrote:It was smart of Fowler to pick up the special needs crew to support their bill.

Eggy, Carter, and Lane are impossible to whip against.

Breck can be pried.

Egazarian literally has not said anything about it, the hell

Reed already hates Eggy, why not?

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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:27 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:After reading the amendment itself, I dont see much of an issue. It decreases federal spending by 10% annually. Though this would actually be problematic, as 10% of $1 trillion is very different than 10% of say $800 billion, so exponentially this would take a while to decrease

Also, what's this about blackmail?
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:27 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Egazarian literally has not said anything about it, the hell

Reed already hates Eggy, why not?

Pragmatism
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16 year old Monarchist from Rhode Island. Interested in economics, governance, metaphysical philosophy, European + Near Eastern history, vexillology, faith, hunting, automotive, ranching, science fiction, music, and anime.

Pro: Absolute Monarchy, Lex Rex, Subsidiarity, Guild Capitalism, Property Rights, Tridentine Catholicism, Unlimited Gun Rights, Hierarchy, Traditionalism, Ethnic Nationalism, Irredentism
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