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Postby Uttland » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:58 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:I suppose the weakness of an RP like this is that you can't really effectively simulate party discipline, especially because we can't sim committees right

There are all sorts of things the leadership can do from encouraging compliance to almost forcing it but we don't really have that, and PCs are pretty much always going to be the rebellious independent types for the same reason they tend to be hotshots.

Hyper-establishment Lane jumping on the Fowler wagon and ditching the party line though is something I don't really get. Fowler/Breck makes sense and I can see Carter. Not really her though

Lane, I've character growth her; she sees a bad bill, and she can vote for it, hold her nose for the party, but if she sees a shitty disastrous bill, she would not vote for it.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:58 pm

Dentali wrote:Okay for the record.... Fowler wants the amendment he has stated it many times, and publicly. But the current proposed amendment does not meet his standards

Perception is the public's understanding of reality, whether Fowler likes it or not.
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Tallahassee News Station wrote:I suppose the weakness of an RP like this is that you can't really effectively simulate party discipline, especially because we can't sim committees right

There are all sorts of things the leadership can do from encouraging compliance to almost forcing it but we don't really have that, and PCs are pretty much always going to be the rebellious independent types for the same reason they tend to be hotshots.

Hyper-establishment Lane jumping on the Fowler wagon and ditching the party line though is something I don't really get. Fowler/Breck makes sense and I can see Carter. Not really her though


Saltyness at losing Leadership, a dislike of the "Extreme" De Pena, A total shock and discouragement due to Brankers' incompetence, and actual problems with the amendment could culminate in a no honestly.


Wasn't Lane just cozying to Spicy earlier?

I'm just not getting the embodiment of the establishment acting like a rebel on the first ever core party line vote
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:59 pm

Uttland wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:I suppose the weakness of an RP like this is that you can't really effectively simulate party discipline, especially because we can't sim committees right

There are all sorts of things the leadership can do from encouraging compliance to almost forcing it but we don't really have that, and PCs are pretty much always going to be the rebellious independent types for the same reason they tend to be hotshots.

Hyper-establishment Lane jumping on the Fowler wagon and ditching the party line though is something I don't really get. Fowler/Breck makes sense and I can see Carter. Not really her though

Lane, I've character growth her; she sees a bad bill, and she can vote for it, hold her nose for the party, but if she sees a shitty disastrous bill, she would not vote for it.

But it is Reed's shitty disastrous bill...

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:00 pm

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Winston type attention? Cuz Reed will want to murder him after that betrayal. Keep in mind Brankers did not write the amendment, Reed did.


Does the public know this?


No. They just know that Reed went full in endorsing it via Pres twitter
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Postby The Portland Territory » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:00 pm

I wanna follow along but dont know where to begin :/
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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:01 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
Saltyness at losing Leadership, a dislike of the "Extreme" De Pena, A total shock and discouragement due to Brankers' incompetence, and actual problems with the amendment could culminate in a no honestly.


Wasn't Lane just cozying to Spicy earlier?

I'm just not getting the embodiment of the establishment acting like a rebel on the first ever core party line vote


Lane's age alone may give her enough leeway in regards to not having to seek reelection, so she'd have more room on party line votes, especially ones she really dislikes.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:01 pm

Okay just real quick OOC who thinks this bill is a good bill?
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Postby Sanabel » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:01 pm

I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:02 pm

Sanabel wrote:I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening


Fowler's leading a rebellion against the amendment.

Lane's on board somehow, along with some usual suspects (Breck, Egg, apparently Carter)
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:02 pm

Sanabel wrote:I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening

Lane and Fowler are among those threatening to torpedo the Balanced Budget Amendment.
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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:02 pm

Sanabel wrote:I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening


Fowler is staging an uprising in the Senate against the Balanced Budget Amendment and he rallied enough support behind the scenes for it to potentially work.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:03 pm

Sanabel wrote:I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening



for the record i tried to contact you several times
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:03 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:I wanna follow along but dont know where to begin :/

Basically Reed made a pretty poor choice in presenter choosing freshman Brankers from Washington to introduce the constitutional amendment. Brankers being a small town mayor with no legislative experience at this level obviously falls spectacularly on his face. And now Fowler/Breck/Lane wants to kill the amendment that Reed endorsed, and that will probably trigger a Republican civil war.

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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:03 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening


Fowler is staging an uprising in the Senate against the Balanced Budget Amendment and he rallied enough support behind the scenes for it to work.

I don't know if I would go that far just yet.
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Postby Sanabel » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:03 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening


Fowler is staging an uprising in the Senate against the Balanced Budget Amendment and he rallied enough support behind the scenes for it to work.

Fudge
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:04 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
Fowler is staging an uprising in the Senate against the Balanced Budget Amendment and he rallied enough support behind the scenes for it to work.

I don't know if I would go that far just yet.



I actually have a vote count and Pro said I was close a few hours ago, before Brankers shit the bed and Lane went public
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Dentali wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening



for the record i tried to contact you several times

If I'm AFK from the OOC I'm also AFK from my telegrams.

I got your TGs. I see what's going on now.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:05 pm

Sanabel wrote:I've been AFK all evening.

What the hell is happening


oh and i sent a letter in the IC
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:06 pm

Lets call it the Fowler-Lane amendment....
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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:06 pm

Dentali wrote:Lets call it the Fowler-Lane amendment....


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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:07 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Dentali wrote:Lets call it the Fowler-Lane amendment....


*COUGH*



lol yea just because she has more name recognition
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Postby Sanabel » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:07 pm

I'd like to have Denis go all out against Fowler

But I'm going to do nothing until I can coordinate with Pro. I think that's the prudent thing to do.
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Postby Uttland » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:07 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Dentali wrote:Lets call it the Fowler-Lane amendment....


*COUGH*

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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:08 pm

Uttland wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
*COUGH*

Fowler-Lane-Breckinridge Amendment


Eh, doesn't have the same ring, nevermind.
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