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Postby Ulls » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:28 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hey does this mean G's not THE BADGUY anymore?

They're multiple badguys, but Gs not THE BADGUY as of right now, at least not in North America.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:28 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Depends on your Point of View. To Europeans, he's still the Big Bad. You're shitty tribal folk locked in civil war.

No I mean OCCly. There's a lot of people who'd refer to his Empire the BADGUY, and plan to invade in the future or something.

If anything, your civil war merely cements his position.

People view the Imperium as a threat because of its unmatched strength and unparalleled size. Ego once had a chance to rival it. Now, your civil war has set you back too far.
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Postby The Olog-Hai » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:28 pm

Ulls wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hey does this mean G's not THE BADGUY anymore?

They're multiple badguys, but Gs not THE BADGUY as of right now, at least not in North America.

Hey, don't generalize for the whole continent! I'm just over in my corner as of right now...
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:30 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:No I mean OCCly. There's a lot of people who'd refer to his Empire the BADGUY, and plan to invade in the future or something.

If anything, your civil war merely cements his position.

People view the Imperium as a threat because of its unmatched strength and unparalleled size. Ego once had a chance to rival it. Now, your civil war has set you back too far.

I don't know, but Turners going to pull 1st French Republic on the tribal group. Damn Ulls without Ego we can't find name for it.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:33 pm

Ulls wrote:The tribes of Minnesota have been working with the Skulk for years as their communities have been going through Minnesota to watch out for Bison Chasers after the Wisconsin Campaign, so about 5-6 years of trading and connections with tribes over there.

Mafia have came in about a year and some months to scout the frontier when they sent scouts west and found iron. Skulk then came to them in secret and would help with tribes who wish to still be independent but do enjoy the advancements Ego brings.

The Mafia then started to bring advancements and have tribes who work with them as an working extention but now they wish to get them as a vassal state in exchange for iron, technological corporation and of course horses.

The Skulk had also brought a prominent chief by the name of Onto from Dakota that were a better, and closer ally, who would benefit witn horses and irrigation with some hopes that they can be a buffer against the Bison Chasers but they have yet to see if their willing to do that.


Hmm, okay, here's my thinking on weightings for RNG.

+ Free Stuff
+ Onto

- Dying for Overlord (Seeking integration mainly for military)
- Cultural Differences
- Religious Differences
- Inertia
- Making New Enemies (Bison Chasers)
- Autonomous Pushback
- Length of Contact

Soooo unless you have anything else to add, I'm seeing this as being a tough sell, though possible.

Ulls wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hey does this mean G's not THE BADGUY anymore?

They're multiple badguys, but Gs not THE BADGUY as of right now, at least not in North America.


Even though Viktor is Bad Guy, that does not mean he has to be BAD GUY.
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Postby Ulls » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:36 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:No I mean OCCly. There's a lot of people who'd refer to his Empire the BADGUY, and plan to invade in the future or something.

If anything, your civil war merely cements his position.

People view the Imperium as a threat because of its unmatched strength and unparalleled size. Ego once had a chance to rival it. Now, your civil war has set you back too far.

Not really, Ego still has a shot.
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Ulls wrote:They're multiple badguys, but Gs not THE BADGUY as of right now, at least not in North America.

Hey, don't generalize for the whole continent! I'm just over in my corner as of right now...


Not generalizing, just compared to brutality.
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Ulls wrote:The tribes of Minnesota have been working with the Skulk for years as their communities have been going through Minnesota to watch out for Bison Chasers after the Wisconsin Campaign, so about 5-6 years of trading and connections with tribes over there.

Mafia have came in about a year and some months to scout the frontier when they sent scouts west and found iron. Skulk then came to them in secret and would help with tribes who wish to still be independent but do enjoy the advancements Ego brings.

The Mafia then started to bring advancements and have tribes who work with them as an working extention but now they wish to get them as a vassal state in exchange for iron, technological corporation and of course horses.

The Skulk had also brought a prominent chief by the name of Onto from Dakota that were a better, and closer ally, who would benefit witn horses and irrigation with some hopes that they can be a buffer against the Bison Chasers but they have yet to see if their willing to do that.


Hmm, okay, here's my thinking on weightings for RNG.

+ Free Stuff
+ Onto

- Dying for Overlord (Seeking integration mainly for military)
- Cultural Differences
- Religious Differences
- Inertia
- Making New Enemies (Bison Chasers)
- Autonomous Pushback
- Length of Contact

Soooo unless you have anything else to add, I'm seeing this as being a tough sell, though possible.

Ulls wrote:They're multiple badguys, but Gs not THE BADGUY as of right now, at least not in North America.


Even though Viktor is Bad Guy, that does not mean he has to be BAD GUY.


Not, really, they were looking for industrial to supply Ego's war effort, if I have to draw upon them, then I can make payments. I was thinking that years would help and trade with Ego could help.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:37 pm

Revlona wrote:Alright, that was my last post for portugal.

How long until you think that armada is finished G?

Oh, and how is Your new world colonist communicating with the Imperium so fastly?


Hmm, probably a year or two, really. If not longer, depending on the resources allocated to the project. You could build ships like the caravelesque beasts the Imperium is using in a matter of months, but I doubt Brest's drydocks can put down more than a few at a time.

Well, by ship, the New World is actually only a few weeks away from France. Sending ships with supplies and messages is slower than in the modern day, but not ridiculously so.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:38 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ulls wrote:The tribes of Minnesota have been working with the Skulk for years as their communities have been going through Minnesota to watch out for Bison Chasers after the Wisconsin Campaign, so about 5-6 years of trading and connections with tribes over there.

Mafia have came in about a year and some months to scout the frontier when they sent scouts west and found iron. Skulk then came to them in secret and would help with tribes who wish to still be independent but do enjoy the advancements Ego brings.

The Mafia then started to bring advancements and have tribes who work with them as an working extention but now they wish to get them as a vassal state in exchange for iron, technological corporation and of course horses.

The Skulk had also brought a prominent chief by the name of Onto from Dakota that were a better, and closer ally, who would benefit witn horses and irrigation with some hopes that they can be a buffer against the Bison Chasers but they have yet to see if their willing to do that.


Hmm, okay, here's my thinking on weightings for RNG.

+ Free Stuff
+ Onto

- Dying for Overlord (Seeking integration mainly for military)
- Cultural Differences
- Religious Differences
- Inertia
- Making New Enemies (Bison Chasers)
- Autonomous Pushback
- Length of Contact

Soooo unless you have anything else to add, I'm seeing this as being a tough sell, though possible.

Ulls wrote:They're multiple badguys, but Gs not THE BADGUY as of right now, at least not in North America.


Even though Viktor is Bad Guy, that does not mean he has to be BAD GUY.

Speaking about THE BADGUY. When will he, she, or it appear? I mean it can range from a simple mad immortal, a anti-immortal nation that threatens our lives, or aliens... just cause.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:41 pm

Ulls wrote:Not, really, they were looking for industrial to supply Ego's war effort, if I have to draw upon them, then I can make payments. I was thinking that years would help and trade with Ego could help.


I'm not sure I follow. How are tribal groups going to create industry in the timeframe of the civil war, assuming it doesn't last for a generation?

Five or six years isn't really enough time to establish a serious relationship, country to country. It is certainly better than cold-calling and asking people to integrate, but the bonds of trust and cultural/religious/economic/social/genetic interplay that turn disparate city-states into a nation-state take a lot longer to establish.

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Speaking about THE BADGUY. When will he, she, or it appear? I mean it can range from a simple mad immortal, a anti-immortal nation that threatens our lives, or aliens... just cause.


What makes you think THE BADGUY isn't already in this RP? :P
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:41 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Revlona wrote:Alright, that was my last post for portugal.

How long until you think that armada is finished G?

Oh, and how is Your new world colonist communicating with the Imperium so fastly?


Hmm, probably a year or two, really. If not longer, depending on the resources allocated to the project. You could build ships like the caravelesque beasts the Imperium is using in a matter of months, but I doubt Brest's drydocks can put down more than a few at a time.

Well, by ship, the New World is actually only a few weeks away from France. Sending ships with supplies and messages is slower than in the modern day, but not ridiculously so.

I mean, the time it takes to sail to the New World varies greatly. It could be anywhere as short as forty or so days or nearly twice that. It was all weather dependent.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:43 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ulls wrote:Not, really, they were looking for industrial to supply Ego's war effort, if I have to draw upon them, then I can make payments. I was thinking that years would help and trade with Ego could help.


I'm not sure I follow. How are tribal groups going to create industry in the timeframe of the civil war, assuming it doesn't last for a generation?

Five or six years isn't really enough time to establish a serious relationship, country to country. It is certainly better than cold-calling and asking people to integrate, but the bonds of trust and cultural/religious/economic/social/genetic interplay that turn disparate city-states into a nation-state take a lot longer to establish.

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Speaking about THE BADGUY. When will he, she, or it appear? I mean it can range from a simple mad immortal, a anti-immortal nation that threatens our lives, or aliens... just cause.


What makes you think THE BADGUY isn't already in this RP? :P

I meant like the official reveal. Not the foreshadowing.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:45 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm, probably a year or two, really. If not longer, depending on the resources allocated to the project. You could build ships like the caravelesque beasts the Imperium is using in a matter of months, but I doubt Brest's drydocks can put down more than a few at a time.

Well, by ship, the New World is actually only a few weeks away from France. Sending ships with supplies and messages is slower than in the modern day, but not ridiculously so.

I mean, the time it takes to sail to the New World varies greatly. It could be anywhere as short as forty or so days or nearly twice that. It was all weather dependent.


Oh yes, certainly. But times could be far shorter than forty- we have records of people doing the passage in as little as twenty five, and even the clueless European explorers of 1500-1550 did the trip without any real knowledge of the landforms in thirty. The eastward leg absolutely took longer, two to three weeks longer on average, but a few months is still plenty of time to have information back from the New World.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:47 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:I meant like the official reveal. Not the foreshadowing.


What makes you think the Authors aren't the antagonists to a world that would have developed naturally of its own accord? ;)
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:48 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:I mean, the time it takes to sail to the New World varies greatly. It could be anywhere as short as forty or so days or nearly twice that. It was all weather dependent.


Oh yes, certainly. But times could be far shorter than forty- we have records of people doing the passage in as little as twenty five, and even the clueless European explorers of 1500-1550 did the trip without any real knowledge of the landforms in thirty. The eastward leg absolutely took longer, two to three weeks longer on average, but a few months is still plenty of time to have information back from the New World.

The shorter trips to North America often went through the Caribbean however. Despite how it might look, reaching the Caribbean was a much quicker endeavor than reaching say New England.
EDIT: Not saying it wouldn't happen one-way in a post, but just saying that I can guarantee it's gonna be more than 'a few weeks'.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:49 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:I meant like the official reveal. Not the foreshadowing.


What makes you think the Authors aren't the antagonists to a world that would have developed naturally of its own accord? ;)

Because of how I see my world today and think if only someone could guide humanity correctly :p
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Postby The Hierophancy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:54 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
What makes you think the Authors aren't the antagonists to a world that would have developed naturally of its own accord? ;)

Because of how I see my world today and think if only someone could guide humanity correctly :p

Are you sure you're the one to be guiding it, though? Plenty of other people have thought the same and attempted to forge their people or nation into a better place only to fuck up royally.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:55 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Oh yes, certainly. But times could be far shorter than forty- we have records of people doing the passage in as little as twenty five, and even the clueless European explorers of 1500-1550 did the trip without any real knowledge of the landforms in thirty. The eastward leg absolutely took longer, two to three weeks longer on average, but a few months is still plenty of time to have information back from the New World.

The shorter trips to North America often went through the Caribbean however. Despite how it might look, reaching the Caribbean was a much quicker endeavor than reaching say New England.
EDIT: Not saying it wouldn't happen one-way in a post, but just saying that I can guarantee it's gonna be more than 'a few weeks'.


Indeed- I'm just getting the first reports back to the Imperium in six odd months though, which I'm pretty sure is legitimate, even if we assume sixty days there and sixty days back, with a month or so in the middle for collating that first report and the events in Virginia.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:55 pm

The Hierophancy wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Because of how I see my world today and think if only someone could guide humanity correctly :p

Are you sure you're the one to be guiding it, though? Plenty of other people have thought the same and attempted to forge their people or nation into a better place only to fuck up royally.

Nah, plan to be a humble advisor.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:56 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:The shorter trips to North America often went through the Caribbean however. Despite how it might look, reaching the Caribbean was a much quicker endeavor than reaching say New England.
EDIT: Not saying it wouldn't happen one-way in a post, but just saying that I can guarantee it's gonna be more than 'a few weeks'.


Indeed- I'm just getting the first reports back to the Imperium in six odd months though, which I'm pretty sure is legitimate, even if we assume sixty days there and sixty days back, with a month or so in the middle for collating that first report and the events in Virginia.

I don't take issue with that :p

it was the 'a few weeks' comment
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Postby The Olog-Hai » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:57 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:The shorter trips to North America often went through the Caribbean however. Despite how it might look, reaching the Caribbean was a much quicker endeavor than reaching say New England.
EDIT: Not saying it wouldn't happen one-way in a post, but just saying that I can guarantee it's gonna be more than 'a few weeks'.


Indeed- I'm just getting the first reports back to the Imperium in six odd months though, which I'm pretty sure is legitimate, even if we assume sixty days there and sixty days back, with a month or so in the middle for collating that first report and the events in Virginia.

Pssst, G, head further up the coast.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:58 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Indeed- I'm just getting the first reports back to the Imperium in six odd months though, which I'm pretty sure is legitimate, even if we assume sixty days there and sixty days back, with a month or so in the middle for collating that first report and the events in Virginia.

I don't take issue with that :p

it was the 'a few weeks' comment


Honestly, a few weeks for me just covers the variability of "going west, with good winds" being as low as twenty odd days, and "going east, with storms" pushing it up to a matter of months.

The Olog-Hai wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Indeed- I'm just getting the first reports back to the Imperium in six odd months though, which I'm pretty sure is legitimate, even if we assume sixty days there and sixty days back, with a month or so in the middle for collating that first report and the events in Virginia.

Pssst, G, head further up the coast.


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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:00 pm

The Hierophancy wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Because of how I see my world today and think if only someone could guide humanity correctly :p

Are you sure you're the one to be guiding it, though? Plenty of other people have thought the same and attempted to forge their people or nation into a better place only to fuck up royally.


My point exactly. This RP is stuffing a lot of well-meaning people in a sandbox Earth and seeing what mess they create :P

Take Ego, for instance.
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Postby The Olog-Hai » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:01 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Hierophancy wrote:Are you sure you're the one to be guiding it, though? Plenty of other people have thought the same and attempted to forge their people or nation into a better place only to fuck up royally.


My point exactly. This RP is stuffing a lot of well-meaning people in a sandbox Earth and seeing what mess they create :P

Take Ego, for instance.

I haven't created a mess.
Yet.
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