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by Caltarania » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:54 am
The Valyria Empire wrote:Yasuragi wrote:
Viserys #1 (son of Aerys) dies of some undetermined cause -- most likely disease -- while Daenerys lives in KL with Elia. After Lyanna and Rhaegar had their child, it was also named Viserys (#2).
So in short... the original Viserys died, but then when not-Jon-Snow was born, he was named Viserys. Dany is normal.
Are you Hellenos? I noticed that this nation doesn't exist, so I'm wondering who it is.
Also, since Arthur didn't die I have Ashara currently living. I don't know if anyone is going to play Dondarrion so I was wondering if anyone is interested in the two Dayne ladies. Thought it would be nice to have some connections with some Houses (beside me trying to get Edric betrothed to Rhaenys/Alysanne Stark).

by Jhet » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:04 am



Bannermen of Nymeros Martell
Military Strength: 20,000 400/2,500
Yronwood of Yronwood
Fowler of Skyreach
Blackmont of Blackmont
Dayne of Starfall
Manwoody of Kingsgrave
Wyl of Wyl
Vaith of Vaith
Uller of Hellholt
Toland of Ghost Hill
Santagar of Spottswood
Qorgyle of Sandstone
Jordayne of the Tor
Gargalen of Salt Shore
Dalt of Lemonwood
Allyrion of Godsgrace
Household of Nymeros Martell
The Noble Family
Quentyn Martell, b.202, the Prince of Dorne, Lord of Sunspear, died of old age
- his lady wife, Tyene Qorgyle, died in childbirth
-- their children
--- Arianne Nymeros Martell, b.223, the Princess of Dorne, Lady of Sunspear, died of a wasting illness
---- her lord husband, Trystane Fowler, died of a wasting illness
----- their children
------ Doran Nymeros Martell, b.246, the Prince of Dorne, Lord of Sunspear
------- his lady wife, Mellario Gorgollion, estranged
-------- their children
--------- Arianne Nymeros Martell, b.276, Princess of Dorne
--------- Quentyn Nymeros Martell, b.281, Prince of Dorne
--------- Trystane Nymeros Martell, b.287, Prince of Dorne
------ Mors Nymeros Martell, b.251, died in the cot
------ Olyvar Nymeros Martell, b.253, died in the cot
------ Elia Nymeros Martell, b.256, Princess of Dorne, Queen Consort of the Seven Kingdoms
------- her royal husband, Rhaegar Targaryen
-------- their children
--------- Rhaenys Targaryen, b.280
--------- Aegon Targaryen, b.281
------ Oberyn Martell, b.257, Prince of Dorne, known as the Red Viper
------- his children by numerous women
--------- Obara Sand, b.271
--------- Nymeria Sand, b.274
--------- Tyene Sand, b.276
--------- Sarella Sand, b.280
------- his paramour, Ellaria Sand, natural daughter of Lord Uller
-------- their children
--------- Elia Sand, b.285
--------- Obella Sand, b.287
--------- Dorea Sand, b.291
--------- Loreza Sand, b.293
--- Lewyn Martell, b.231, Prince of Dorne, Knight of the Kingsguard
--- Mors Martell, b.242, Prince of Dorne, died of a pox
---- his lady wife, Ysilla Vaith, died of depression
----- their children
------ Manfrey Martell, b.261, castellan of Sunspear
------- his lady wife, Ashara Wells
-------- their children
--------- Mors Martell, b.281
--------- Mariah Martell, b.285
------ Meria Martell, b.264
------- her lord husband, Quentyn Qorgyle, Lord of Sandstone
-------- their children
--------- Gulian Qorgyle, b.280
--------- Arron Qorgyle, b.282
Household at Sunspear
Arianne Nymeros Martell, heir to Sunspear
Manfrey Nymeros Martell, castellan of Sunspear
Ricasso, seneschal of Sunspear
Maester Myles
Alyse Ladybright, treasurer
Joss Hood, a young knight
Garibald Shells, a young knight
Jayne Ladybright, lady-in-waiting
Aundrey Dalt, a young knight, heir to Lemonwood
Myria Jordayne, lady-in-waiting, heir to The Tor
Sylva Santagar, lady-in-waiting, heir to Spottswood
Household at the Water Gardens
Doran Nymeros Martell, lord of Sunspear
Maester Caleotte
Aero Hotah
Daeron Sand, bastard of Yronwood
Arron Qorgyle, sworn sword
Myles Manwoody, sworn sword
Retinue of the Queen
Oberyn Nymeros Martell, the Red Viper
- Ellaria Sand, bastard of Hellholt
- Leywn Nymeros Martell, kingsguard
- Quentyn Nymeros Martell
- Trystane Nymeros Martell
Ryon Allyrion, heir to Godsgrace
- Daemon Sand, bastard of Godsgrace
Larra Blackmont, lady of Blackmont
- Jynessa Blackmont, heir to Blackmont
Deziel Dalt, Knight of Lemonwood
Ulwyck Uller
Mors Manwoody, heir to Kingsgrave
- Dickon Manwoody
Gulian Qorgyle, heir to Sandstone
Jennelyn Fowler
Gascoyne Wade

by Krugmar » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:19 am
Jhet wrote:-snip-
Utceforp wrote:House being reserved: House Manderly
Time stamp: 10:12 AM October 17th
312 - DO NOT REMOVE
Rygondria wrote:What is the Status of Harrenhal and the Whents ?
Liecthenbourg wrote:So, what can I app for?
- House Targaryen having a player opens: House Rykker and House Rosby
- House Lannister having a player opens: House Crakehall and House Lefford
- House Stark having a player opens: House Manderly and House Bolton
- House Tyrell having a player opens: House Hightower and House Redwyne
- House Connington having a player opens: House Tarth and House Dondarrion
- House Martell having a player opens: House Yronwood and House Dayne
- House Arryn having a player opens: House Royce of Runestone and House Grafton of Gulltown
- House Tully having a player opens: House Frey and House Darry
- The Night's Watch is open. (To stimulate RP, members in the Night's Watch (such as Brynden) can be RP'd by their Houses to make it interactive.)

by Warg the Immortal » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:59 am
Yasuragi wrote:
Viserys #1 (son of Aerys) dies of some undetermined cause -- most likely disease -- while Daenerys lives in KL with Elia. After Lyanna and Rhaegar had their child, it was also named Viserys (#2).
So in short... the original Viserys died, but then when not-Jon-Snow was born, he was named Viserys. Dany is normal.

by Liecthenbourg » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:02 am
Warg the Immortal wrote:Yasuragi wrote:
Viserys #1 (son of Aerys) dies of some undetermined cause -- most likely disease -- while Daenerys lives in KL with Elia. After Lyanna and Rhaegar had their child, it was also named Viserys (#2).
So in short... the original Viserys died, but then when not-Jon-Snow was born, he was named Viserys. Dany is normal.
I mean, I know he isn't that well liked by most readers, but seems kinda odd to just kill him off without an explanation as to why

by Warg the Immortal » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:06 am
Liecthenbourg wrote:Warg the Immortal wrote:I mean, I know he isn't that well liked by most readers, but seems kinda odd to just kill him off without an explanation as to why
In my mind it wasn't that I didn't like him (I actually did, funnily enough, in terms of a rounded character.) I just wanted to avoid the confusion of having two Viserys' running around. That's it, really.

by Warg the Immortal » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:09 am

by Yasuragi » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:19 am
Warg the Immortal wrote:Yasuragi wrote:
Viserys #1 (son of Aerys) dies of some undetermined cause -- most likely disease -- while Daenerys lives in KL with Elia. After Lyanna and Rhaegar had their child, it was also named Viserys (#2).
So in short... the original Viserys died, but then when not-Jon-Snow was born, he was named Viserys. Dany is normal.
I mean, I know he isn't that well liked by most readers, but seems kinda odd to just kill him off without an explanation as to why

by Krugmar » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:30 am
Warg the Immortal wrote:Would I be allowed to app for Velaryons?

by Warg the Immortal » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:32 am

by Revlona » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:19 am
Lithra wrote:What all is still open to be claimed?

by Warg the Immortal » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:06 pm


by Utceforp » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:08 pm
Yasuragi wrote:Warg the Immortal wrote:I mean, I know he isn't that well liked by most readers, but seems kinda odd to just kill him off without an explanation as to why
There's two reasons, in my mind.
The first is, as Liec already pointed out, it's confusing to have two Viserys running around, but Rhaegar is absolutely obsessed with the "three heads of the dragon" prophecy and he'd name !jon-snow Viserys regardless of whether or not Viserys lived.
The second reason, to me at least, is that it's rather odd for House Targaryen to go through one of the largest challenges to their rule in recent history without losing anything other than the Mad King, who was already going to be deposed (and perhaps killed, had Robert won) -- and the Mad King isn't even dead, since he's imprisoned on Dragonstone! To me, it helps highlight the vulnerability of the Targaryens -- even after successfully overcoming the challenges of Robert's Rebellion and governing the realm through the past 1.5 decades of peace and rebuilding, the Targaryens are still a very, very vulnerable house in terms of heirs. There simply aren't many Targaryens left. This highlights Rhaegar's feelings on 'doom and gloom' for Westeros (and his family!) while encouraging him to keep his family metaphorically and literally close -- which will have consequences down the line in the RP.

by Warg the Immortal » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:09 pm
Utceforp wrote:Yasuragi wrote:
There's two reasons, in my mind.
The first is, as Liec already pointed out, it's confusing to have two Viserys running around, but Rhaegar is absolutely obsessed with the "three heads of the dragon" prophecy and he'd name !jon-snow Viserys regardless of whether or not Viserys lived.
The second reason, to me at least, is that it's rather odd for House Targaryen to go through one of the largest challenges to their rule in recent history without losing anything other than the Mad King, who was already going to be deposed (and perhaps killed, had Robert won) -- and the Mad King isn't even dead, since he's imprisoned on Dragonstone! To me, it helps highlight the vulnerability of the Targaryens -- even after successfully overcoming the challenges of Robert's Rebellion and governing the realm through the past 1.5 decades of peace and rebuilding, the Targaryens are still a very, very vulnerable house in terms of heirs. There simply aren't many Targaryens left. This highlights Rhaegar's feelings on 'doom and gloom' for Westeros (and his family!) while encouraging him to keep his family metaphorically and literally close -- which will have consequences down the line in the RP.
If Rhaegar's goal was to recreate the Conqueror and his siblings to create the "three heads of the dragon", I think there's another option for Not-Jon's name: Orys. Orys Baratheon was Aegon the Conqueror's dark-haired rumoured half-brother and Not-Jon is Aegon's dark-haired half-brother, and Rhaegar still has an opportunity to birth a new Visenya. Also, naming his son after the founder of the Baratheon dynasty would help to reconcile Baratheon loyalists in the Stormlands with the Throne.

by Krugmar » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:14 pm
Revlona wrote:House Name:Tyrell
Culture:Reachmen
Leader:Mace Tyrell
Lands:The Reach
Sovereign:Rhaegar Targaryen
Coat of Arms: A Golden rose on a green field(Image)
Direct Forces/Vassal Forces:80,000-100,000 if given time to mobolize
History of the House since 282 AC
287 AC- Benjen Stark is returned to winterfell after 5 years of being a hostage.
289 AC- 15,000 Reachmen are sent to support the kings troops in the Greyjoy rebellion
293 AC- Mace sent men to put down some bandits in hightower lands
282 to Present- The kingdom has prospered with Mace as Master of Coin
429 - DO NOT REMOVE.
Name:Mace Tyrell
Titles:Lord of Highgarden, Lord Paramount of the Mander, and Warden of the South
Culture:Reachmen
Age:44
Gender:Male
Appearance:(Image)
Allegiance:Rhaegar Targaryen
Profession:
Religion:The 7 Gods
Family Members:Luthor Tyrell
Olenna Tyrell
Loras Tyrell
Willas Tyrell
Alerie Hightower
Paxter Redwyne
Personal History since 282 AC:
289 AC- 15,000 Reachmen are sent to support the kings troops in the Greyjoy rebellion
293 AC- Mace sent men to put down some bandits in hightower lands
282 to Present- The kingdom has prospered with Mace as Master of Coin

by Liecthenbourg » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:02 pm
Warg the Immortal wrote:-snip-

by Revlona » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:58 pm
Krugmar wrote:Revlona wrote:House Name:Tyrell
Culture:Reachmen
Leader:Mace Tyrell
Lands:The Reach
Sovereign:Rhaegar Targaryen
Coat of Arms: A Golden rose on a green field(Image)
Direct Forces/Vassal Forces:80,000-100,000 if given time to mobolize
History of the House since 282 AC
287 AC- Benjen Stark is returned to winterfell after 5 years of being a hostage.
289 AC- 15,000 Reachmen are sent to support the kings troops in the Greyjoy rebellion
293 AC- Mace sent men to put down some bandits in hightower lands
282 to Present- The kingdom has prospered with Mace as Master of Coin
429 - DO NOT REMOVE.
Name:Mace Tyrell
Titles:Lord of Highgarden, Lord Paramount of the Mander, and Warden of the South
Culture:Reachmen
Age:44
Gender:Male
Appearance:(Image)
Allegiance:Rhaegar Targaryen
Profession:
Religion:The 7 Gods
Family Members:Luthor Tyrell
Olenna Tyrell
Loras Tyrell
Willas Tyrell
Alerie Hightower
Paxter Redwyne
Personal History since 282 AC:
289 AC- 15,000 Reachmen are sent to support the kings troops in the Greyjoy rebellion
293 AC- Mace sent men to put down some bandits in hightower lands
282 to Present- The kingdom has prospered with Mace as Master of Coin
Denied
1- History could be improved, the bandit part is a bit random and Mace certainly wouldn't help the kingdom prosper as Master of Coin.
2: Vassal forces are nearer the 70,000 mark, and you need to include how many soldiers the Tyrells can directly call up.
3: Just some general formatting with the app to clear up.

by Utceforp » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:06 pm

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