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Dunree
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Postby Dunree » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:38 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Jhet wrote:Started on this one far too late in the day. Also realised that I have no creativity when it comes to food.

As long as you don’t be silly like the show and include potatoes, you’re fine.

Working on a post still, sorry about the delay.


Why is potatoes silly?

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Yasuragi
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Postby Yasuragi » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:55 pm

Two posts coming up tomorrow: Rhaegar on the Wall and Rhaenys speaking to Elia.

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Postby The Valyria Empire » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:10 pm

Dunree wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:As long as you don’t be silly like the show and include potatoes, you’re fine.

Working on a post still, sorry about the delay.


Why is potatoes silly?

Ice and Fire is a medieval-esc fantasy story. Potatoes are from the New World, Peru specifically. They shouldn’t exist in a European like fantasy story. Not once in the books are potatoes ever mentioned as a Westeros crop.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:01 am

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Dunree wrote:
Why is potatoes silly?

Ice and Fire is a medieval-esc fantasy story. Potatoes are from the New World, Peru specifically. They shouldn’t exist in a European like fantasy story. Not once in the books are potatoes ever mentioned as a Westeros crop.

Just because crops are from the New World doesn't mean they can't appear in Westeros. That logic indicates pumpkin, turkey, corn and pecans shouldn't appear in a "European like fantasy story", and yet all do. I'm sure there are more, as well.

As a few citations
  • Corn - Arya III, ACoK, "They roasted the sweetcorn in the husk that night, turning the ears with long forked sticks, and ate it hot right off the cob."
  • Pumpkin and Corn - Catelyn VI, AGoT, "Wheat and corn and barley grew high in its fields, and even in Highgarden the pumpkins were no larger nor the fruit any sweeter than here"
  • Turkey - Bran V, AGoT, "“I spied a turkey,” Theon said, annoyed by the question."
  • Pecans and Squash - Tyrion II, ACoK, " This evening they had supped on oxtail soup, summer greens tossed with pecans, grapes, red fennel, and crumbled cheese, hot crab pie, spiced squash, and quails drowned in butter"
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Postby Of the Quendi » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:45 am

Yasuragi wrote:Two posts coming up tomorrow: Rhaegar on the Wall and Rhaenys speaking to Elia.

Looking forward to it.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:11 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Ice and Fire is a medieval-esc fantasy story. Potatoes are from the New World, Peru specifically. They shouldn’t exist in a European like fantasy story. Not once in the books are potatoes ever mentioned as a Westeros crop.

Just because crops are from the New World doesn't mean they can't appear in Westeros. That logic indicates pumpkin, turkey, corn and pecans shouldn't appear in a "European like fantasy story", and yet all do. I'm sure there are more, as well.

As a few citations
  • Corn - Arya III, ACoK, "They roasted the sweetcorn in the husk that night, turning the ears with long forked sticks, and ate it hot right off the cob."
  • Pumpkin and Corn - Catelyn VI, AGoT, "Wheat and corn and barley grew high in its fields, and even in Highgarden the pumpkins were no larger nor the fruit any sweeter than here"
  • Turkey - Bran V, AGoT, "“I spied a turkey,” Theon said, annoyed by the question."
  • Pecans and Squash - Tyrion II, ACoK, " This evening they had supped on oxtail soup, summer greens tossed with pecans, grapes, red fennel, and crumbled cheese, hot crab pie, spiced squash, and quails drowned in butter"


Hmm. Perhaps all the Westerosi need to do to survive Winter better, then, is plant more potatoes for storage.
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:23 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:Just because crops are from the New World doesn't mean they can't appear in Westeros. That logic indicates pumpkin, turkey, corn and pecans shouldn't appear in a "European like fantasy story", and yet all do. I'm sure there are more, as well.

As a few citations
  • Corn - Arya III, ACoK, "They roasted the sweetcorn in the husk that night, turning the ears with long forked sticks, and ate it hot right off the cob."
  • Pumpkin and Corn - Catelyn VI, AGoT, "Wheat and corn and barley grew high in its fields, and even in Highgarden the pumpkins were no larger nor the fruit any sweeter than here"
  • Turkey - Bran V, AGoT, "“I spied a turkey,” Theon said, annoyed by the question."
  • Pecans and Squash - Tyrion II, ACoK, " This evening they had supped on oxtail soup, summer greens tossed with pecans, grapes, red fennel, and crumbled cheese, hot crab pie, spiced squash, and quails drowned in butter"


Hmm. Perhaps all the Westerosi need to do to survive Winter better, then, is plant more potatoes for storage.

Potatoes are aphrodisiacs, after all.

Also, do I smell a lurker G? :P
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:44 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hmm. Perhaps all the Westerosi need to do to survive Winter better, then, is plant more potatoes for storage.

Potatoes are aphrodisiacs, after all.

Also, do I smell a lurker G? :P


Me, lurk? Noooooo
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:59 pm

Great to see a post from the Tyrells up.

And glad to see you managed to get one up too, Karg. Are your troubles subsiding, or did you get that out due to sheer force? :lol:

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:Potatoes are aphrodisiacs, after all.

Also, do I smell a lurker G? :P


Me, lurk? Noooooo

Lurkity, lurker lurking.
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I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Postby The Protacan-Anzotac Peoples » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:15 pm

House Name: House Karstark of Karhold
Culture: North
Leader: Harold Karstark
Sovereign: King Rhaegar I Aerys was a better king pfft
Coat of Arms: White Sunburst on Black
Direct Forces/Vassal Forces:
3,000
History Since 282: Nothing much has really occured, when Robert and his rebellion failed House Karstark swore their fealty to Rhaegar. And continued to stay loyal to House Stark.


Name: Harrison Karstark
Titles: Lord of Karstark, Lord of Karhold
Culture: Old Gods of The Forest
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Appearance: Tall man, brown hair, brown beard
Allegiance: House Karstark
Profession: Administrative Ideals
Religon: Old Gods of The Forest
Personal History Since 282: Explained in House Application

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Postby Kargintina » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:18 pm

The Protacan-Anzotac Peoples wrote:House Name: House Karstark of Karhold
Culture: North
Leader: Harold Karstark
Sovereign: King Rhaegar I Aerys was a better king pfft
Coat of Arms: White Sunburst on Black
Direct Forces/Vassal Forces:
3,000
History Since 282: Nothing much has really occured, when Robert and his rebellion failed House Karstark swore their fealty to Rhaegar. And continued to stay loyal to House Stark.


Name: Harrison Karstark
Titles: Lord of Karstark, Lord of Karhold
Culture: Old Gods of The Forest
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Appearance: Tall man, brown hair, brown beard
Allegiance: House Karstark
Profession: Administrative Ideals
Religon: Old Gods of The Forest
Personal History Since 282: Explained in House Application

Just give up bro

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The Protacan-Anzotac Peoples
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Postby The Protacan-Anzotac Peoples » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:22 pm

Kargintina wrote:
The Protacan-Anzotac Peoples wrote:House Name: House Karstark of Karhold
Culture: North
Leader: Harold Karstark
Sovereign: King Rhaegar I Aerys was a better king pfft
Coat of Arms: White Sunburst on Black
Direct Forces/Vassal Forces:
3,000
History Since 282: Nothing much has really occured, when Robert and his rebellion failed House Karstark swore their fealty to Rhaegar. And continued to stay loyal to House Stark.


Name: Harrison Karstark
Titles: Lord of Karstark, Lord of Karhold
Culture: Old Gods of The Forest
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Appearance: Tall man, brown hair, brown beard
Allegiance: House Karstark
Profession: Administrative Ideals
Religon: Old Gods of The Forest
Personal History Since 282: Explained in House Application

Just give up bro


Erm, like seriously nothing has happend since 282, Karstark is nothing but a third class house and was only needed during The War of The Bastards because of their host size.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:47 pm

The Protacan-Anzotac Peoples wrote:-snip-

Firstly and fore-mostly, in the OP, it outlines what Houses are open. House Karstark is not one of them.

Aside from this, a lack of history (You can look at the other applications, for instance) and seemingly arbitrary professions for Lord Rickard constitute what was already a 'no' into a no.
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The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
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The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Postby Yasuragi » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:38 am

Rhaenys post up @Jhet -- she's going to ask for Elia's help in dissuading Rhaegar from marrying Rhaenys to Harold Hardying. Her argument is that Hardying is not worthy of being married to a princess until he becomes Lord Paramount of the Vale (but Rhaegar plans to boost his claim BY marrying him to Rhaenys, so you see how that goes), that his claim is unlikely to succeed given the Vale lords' animosity to the Iron Throne currently, and that Hardying is a notorious womanizer.

She will be open to some plotting, but nothing super chaotic and/or destructive, and will essentially be trying to forge links to Dorne in order to get Trystane, Oberyn, and Elia's assistance -- and by extension, Doran's.

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Postby Yasuragi » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:38 am

Rhaegar post incoming, slight time-skip to inside the chambers of the Lord Commander.

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Postby Lithra » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:15 pm

Hey guys I am afraid I am going to have to drop from the game. I have had some medical issues come up that I need to concentrate on. If things get better quickly I will try and get back in.

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Postby Dunree » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:58 pm

Lithra wrote:Hey guys I am afraid I am going to have to drop from the game. I have had some medical issues come up that I need to concentrate on. If things get better quickly I will try and get back in.


Sorry to hear that. Hope all goes well for you.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:35 pm

Lithra wrote:Hey guys I am afraid I am going to have to drop from the game. I have had some medical issues come up that I need to concentrate on. If things get better quickly I will try and get back in.

My condolences. I do hope you're okay.

Dunree wrote:
Lithra wrote:Hey guys I am afraid I am going to have to drop from the game. I have had some medical issues come up that I need to concentrate on. If things get better quickly I will try and get back in.


Sorry to hear that. Hope all goes well for you.

If you'd like, I can continue to inform you as to what the Crakehalls were going to do in Gulltown.
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The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Postby Lithra » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:19 am

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Lithra wrote:Hey guys I am afraid I am going to have to drop from the game. I have had some medical issues come up that I need to concentrate on. If things get better quickly I will try and get back in.

My condolences. I do hope you're okay.

Dunree wrote:
Sorry to hear that. Hope all goes well for you.

If you'd like, I can continue to inform you as to what the Crakehalls were going to do in Gulltown.


Thanks guys.

And yeah that would be great. I am hoping to know more in the next couple of days how things will go.

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Postby Rodez » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:18 pm

I'll make a post on Sunday most likely, just waiting for news of Aegon to matriculate south properly.
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:51 pm

Lithra wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:My condolences. I do hope you're okay.


If you'd like, I can continue to inform you as to what the Crakehalls were going to do in Gulltown.


Thanks guys.

And yeah that would be great. I am hoping to know more in the next couple of days how things will go.

Oh, excellent, but I was talking to Dunree :P

Rodez wrote:I'll make a post on Sunday most likely, just waiting for news of Aegon to matriculate south properly.

Very good.
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The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Postby Dunree » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:27 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Lithra wrote:
Thanks guys.

And yeah that would be great. I am hoping to know more in the next couple of days how things will go.

Oh, excellent, but I was talking to Dunree :P

Rodez wrote:I'll make a post on Sunday most likely, just waiting for news of Aegon to matriculate south properly.

Very good.



Yeah thats be good. I probably wont be able to post until Monday tho, Im away from home for the weekend.

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Postby Jhet » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:18 am

Yasuragi wrote:Rhaenys post up @Jhet -- she's going to ask for Elia's help in dissuading Rhaegar from marrying Rhaenys to Harold Hardying. Her argument is that Hardying is not worthy of being married to a princess until he becomes Lord Paramount of the Vale (but Rhaegar plans to boost his claim BY marrying him to Rhaenys, so you see how that goes), that his claim is unlikely to succeed given the Vale lords' animosity to the Iron Throne currently, and that Hardying is a notorious womanizer.

That's the Elia meet-and-greet post up, since I can't imagine a hastily written note would have the entire plot laid out for any old servant to read.

edit: Though I will remark that there was never love between Rhaegar and Elia (apparently that is what a lot of the - sickening to be quite frank - "Elia was in to the Lyanna marriage" shippers like to bring up)
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:02 pm

Jhet wrote:
Yasuragi wrote:Rhaenys post up @Jhet -- she's going to ask for Elia's help in dissuading Rhaegar from marrying Rhaenys to Harold Hardying. Her argument is that Hardying is not worthy of being married to a princess until he becomes Lord Paramount of the Vale (but Rhaegar plans to boost his claim BY marrying him to Rhaenys, so you see how that goes), that his claim is unlikely to succeed given the Vale lords' animosity to the Iron Throne currently, and that Hardying is a notorious womanizer.

That's the Elia meet-and-greet post up, since I can't imagine a hastily written note would have the entire plot laid out for any old servant to read.

edit: Though I will remark that there was never love between Rhaegar and Elia (apparently that is what a lot of the - sickening to be quite frank - "Elia was in to the Lyanna marriage" shippers like to bring up)

While they never truly loved each other, the marriage was a happy one up until Robert’s Rebellion. Also I’ve never heard of this “Polygamy thing” even if the Targs did it at one point.

I’ll try to get post up tonight since I’ve finally found some free time.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:00 pm

At some point tomorrow I'll be having a post up from beyond the Wall.
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The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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