1810 Age of Imperialism, Empires and Expansion OOC [OPEN]

[Nuverikstan]

Nuverekistan,Can i say i Trade with the Qing, the Dutch, and other NPCs so my economy doesn't stay completely crappy?
It seems realistic.

Tell me, if the Qing were reluctant to trade with the Europeans because they had nothing they wanted, what do you have to offer? The Dutch may or may not exists. Just waiting to see if the Iberian guy will fix his app. Other NPCs will trade with you.

[Skarten]

Nuverekistan,Can i say i Trade with the Qing, the Dutch, and other NPCs so my economy doesn't stay completely crappy?
It seems realistic.

Tell me, if the Qing were reluctant to trade with the Europeans because they had nothing they wanted, what do you have to offer? The Dutch may or may not exists. Just waiting to see if the Iberian guy will fix his app. Other NPCs will trade with you.

The Qing probably would rather trade with a Indian Asiatic kingdom than European ones.
Diplomacy stuff.

[The Transhuman Union]

Nuverekistan,Can i say i Trade with the Qing, the Dutch, and other NPCs so my economy doesn't stay completely crappy?
It seems realistic.

Your horses seem crappy, if you want, we can trade for our finest Arabian horses, if you want your cavalry to be stronger. Also you have iron, I don't...

[Alaroma]

Nuverkistan, can I begin trying to snag Taiwan from from the Sino fags by using economics

Like, you want to buy Taiwan from the Qing?

Sure

[The Transhuman Union]

Wait why they would give you Taiwan? Seeing your aggressive actions, I don't think they will be willing.

[Skarten]

Nuverekistan,Can i say i Trade with the Qing, the Dutch, and other NPCs so my economy doesn't stay completely crappy?
It seems realistic.

Your horses seem crappy, if you want, we can trade for our finest Arabian horses, if you want your cavalry to be stronger. Also you have iron, I don't...

..
Tmw The Indian cavalry were mass recruited by the british
tmw There are very rare indian horse breeds
Tmw india has good horses
But tmw you still need the money
Sure we'll trade iron.

[Nuverikstan]

Like, you want to buy Taiwan from the Qing?

Sure

I mean, they won't sell it to you. Remember, they are pretty self-sufficient and they don't need to sell it to you. You'd be better off going to war with them.

[Alaroma]

Wait why they would give you Taiwan? Seeing your aggressive actions, I don't think they will be willing.

Well, I guess I can systematically take over the Taiwanese economy, then annex it later.

[Skarten]

Sure

I mean, they won't sell it to you. Remember, they are pretty self-sufficient and they don't need to sell it to you. You'd be better off going to war with them.

Yes, do it
Lose your precious troops

[Alaroma]

Sure

I mean, they won't sell it to you. Remember, they are pretty self-sufficient and they don't need to sell it to you. You'd be better off going to war with them.

What do you think of my idea of taking over its economy, then Annexation. I'll conquer Taiwan if I must.

[Alaroma]

I mean, they won't sell it to you. Remember, they are pretty self-sufficient and they don't need to sell it to you. You'd be better off going to war with them.

Yes, do it
Lose your precious troops

Or I destroy the Chinese Navy with my modern one, then take all their island holdings. They will be isolated, and thus easier to take.

[Nations United for Conquest]

I mean, they won't sell it to you. Remember, they are pretty self-sufficient and they don't need to sell it to you. You'd be better off going to war with them.

Yes, do it
Lose your precious troops

Don't worry, Europe's got plenty of troops for you

[Alaroma]

Yes, do it
Lose your precious troops

Don't worry, Europe's got plenty of troops for you

Salutes Germany
The Europeans are g8 friends, though this war will be determined by Naval Strength, which I have.

[Nuverikstan]

Wait why they would give you Taiwan? Seeing your aggressive actions, I don't think they will be willing.

Well, I guess I can systematically take over the Taiwanese economy, then annex it later.

If the Qing smell something fishy (a bunch of Japanese playing with the economy of Taiwan), they will probably kick you out. You could always sell them Opium.

Just has a realization
Skarten, you want India to be rich? Take control of the Afghan opium trade and start growing some yourself. Then sell it to everyone that doesn't like you.

[Skarten]

Yes, do it
Lose your precious troops

Don't worry, Europe's got plenty of troops for you

I just need to train my troops. I've got plenty of time.
Plus Gurkhas.
Like Voltaire said,
God's not on the side of big battalions,but on the side of those who shoot best

[The Transhuman Union]

Tmw The Indian cavalry were mass recruited by the british
tmw There are very rare indian horse breeds
Tmw india has good horses
But tmw you still need the money
Sure we'll trade iron.

Hmm. Fine. More cavalrymen are good for me at least. Especially with way too good horses. Just need to train them though.

[Skarten]

Well, I guess I can systematically take over the Taiwanese economy, then annex it later.

If the Qing smell something fishy (a bunch of Japanese playing with the economy of Taiwan), they will probably kick you out. You could always sell them Opium.

Just has a realization
Skarten, you want India to be rich? Take control of the Afghan opium trade and start growing some yourself. Then sell it to everyone that doesn't like you.

Good idea.
Very good idea

[Alaroma]

Well, I guess I can systematically take over the Taiwanese economy, then annex it later.

If the Qing smell something fishy (a bunch of Japanese playing with the economy of Taiwan), they will probably kick you out. You could always sell them Opium.

Just has a realization
Skarten, you want India to be rich? Take control of the Afghan opium trade and start growing some yourself. Then sell it to everyone that doesn't like you.

Fuck it, Opium war when. Qing you kinky bastards, take my drugs!

[Hothnia]

Don't worry, Europe's got plenty of troops for you

I just need to train my troops. I've got plenty of time.
Plus Gurkhas.
Like Voltaire said,
God's not on the side of big battalions,but on the side of those who shoot best

Which would not be you. You're messing with the top quality armies in the world. So, I'm feeling pretty confident with my German and Japanese friends.

[Alaroma]

I just need to train my troops. I've got plenty of time.
Plus Gurkhas.
Like Voltaire said,
God's not on the side of big battalions,but on the side of those who shoot best

Which would not be you. You're messing with the top quality armies in the world. So, I'm feeling pretty confident with my German and Japanese friends.

When you can't decide your priorities
>Taiwan
>Korea
>India
>Indonesia
>Other Asian shit like Vietnam
>Building Navy
Bruh, dis be lit.
I think I overkilled the Philippines
It took 40 British ships, and 20,000 Boys in the Crown's service to fuck up China's shit. This war against China will be a piece of cake.

[Alaroma]

Nuverkistan, can the map be updated with the Conquering of the Philippines soon?

[The Brand New Salvatagard Republic]

[box]
Nation name: The Iberian Empire
(Image)
National Ideology: Composite-Monarchy

Nation's Leader(s): Empress Maria I the Pious (in Portugal), Emperor Ferdinand VII the Desired (in Spain)

National Government Type: Absolutist-Duel Monarchist-Empire

National history: After Spain won the Portuguese Restoration War (1640-1668), King Carlos's advisers told him to take it lightly on the Portuguese. He agreed, and let the Portuguese have thier own Monarch. So, Iberia is now a Duel-Monarchy (like Austria-Hungary). King Alfonso I of Portugal and King Carlos II expanded thier Empire, taking over most of South America. By the early 1700's, Spain was in Chaos. King Pedro of Portugal sent 300,000 troops in Spain to restore order, but was unsuccessful. The Austrians then declared War on Iberia, and lost its Invasion. Order eventually came to Spain, bringing Prince Philip of France to the Spanish Throne. Over the decades, Iberia prospered (Besides a little mishaps). Real trouble began in 1775 when British colonist in North America were rebelling from King George III of Britain. King Carlos III of Spain decided to declare War on Britain in 1776. After the War, Iberia and France were bankrupt. They had to raise thier taxes by alot. By 1788, France was in turmoil, while Iberia was getting out of bankruptcy. In 1789, the French had enough of thier government. Thus, the French Revolution began.

Language: Spanish, Portuguese

National Religion: Catholicism

National Race/Culture/Identity: White, Iberian, Spanish, Portuguese, Iberian Colonial

Territory (Consult the link to the map on the OP): Iberia, Brazil, Angola, Mozambique, Guinea-Bissau, East Timor, Sri Lanka, Uraguay, Cape Verde, Taiwan, Argentina, Colombia, Paraguay, Ecuador, Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Bolivia, the Philippines, Guam, Equatorial Guinea, Panama, Western Sahara Territory, and the rest of the Netherlands

Capital City: Madrid

Population: 33,770,115


MILITARY STATISTICS

Head General: Miguel Ricardo de Álava y Esquivel (Spain) and Miguel Pereira Forjaz, Count of Feira (Portugal)

Generals Staff: Prince John of Portugal; Juan Martín Díez; Francisco Javier Castaños, 1st Duke of Bailén; Francisco da Silveira Pinto da Fonseca Teixeira, 1st Count of Amarante

Military strength: 1,688,500
Extensive Conscription (5%)
(Please provide a Total Standing Army size)
(There are 7 different levels of Standing Army or Manpower; Disarmed Nation, Volunteer Only, Limited Conscription, Extensive Conscription and Service by Requirement, All Adults Serve and Scraping the Barrel. Each provide a certain amount of manpower, 1%, 1.5%, 2.5%, 5%, 10%, 20% and 25% respectively. Each of them have their own effects. For 5% and under, there are no ill effects. For above, penalties begin to occur in the domestic sector, disunity begins to increase and moral drops drastically. 1% has no bonuses if forced into it, if not, it shares the effects of 1.5%. 1.5% has greatly increased domestic output, strong unity and great moral. 2.5% has slightly increased domestic output and good unity. 5% has no effects.)

1. List the Branches of your Military (Marines, Army, Navy, Special Units, Cavalry, etc.) and their Manpower Size:
The Imperial Army: 1,180,000
The Imperial Navy: 330,000
Cavalry: 100,000
Artillery: 20,000
The Imperial Marines: 38,500
The Imperial Guard: 20,000

2. List size of naval forces (Ship wise, state the Manpower of your navy in Number 1), if any: 895 Naval ships
116 first rated (98,600 sailors)
43 second rated (30,100 sailors)
84 third rated (42,000 sailors)
19 fourth rated (6,080 sailors)
35 fifth rated (7,000 sailors)
291 sixth rated (58,200 sailors)
307 unrated (27,630 sailors)
60,390 sailors in reserves
(Image)

3. List amount of artillery, if any: 1,000

ARMAMENT


Infantry:1,180,000

Primary Weapon:(You can use a real world weapon, make your own, or rename a real world weapon) M1752 Musket

Secondary Weapon:(You can use a real world weapon, make your own, or rename a real world weapon)Flintlock Pistol

Melee Weapon: Imperial Saber

Uniform:(Please Provide Pictures or Description)(Image)

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.) Bible, a Hunting Knife, 2 canteens, messkit, 300 rounds, a small shovel

Greatest Strengths: amount of soldiers, good morale, really effective

Greatest Weaknesses: outdated weapons, slow loaders, easily loses morale

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.) entrenching


Cavalry:

Primary Weapon: (You can use a real world weapon, make your own, or rename a real world weapon)Charleville Musket 1777

Secondary Weapon: (You can use a real world weapon, make your own, or rename a real world weapon)MTS011 Double-Barreled Flintlock Pistol

Melee Weapon: Imperial Saber

Uniform: (Please provide picture or Description)(Image)

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.) Bible, 2 canteens, a Hunting Knife, 300 rounds, a hammer

Greatest Strengths: strong morale, fierce fighters

Greatest Weaknesses: too cautious except in battle

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.) fast reload


Artillery:

Cannon Type(s): 6 pnds to 32 pnds

Mortar Type(s): 6 inch

Rockets:(yes/no)no

Howitzer Type(s): 12 pnd

Shell types: heated, round, shrapnel, carcass

Men per artillery crew: 20

Mules/Horses: 6

Ships

1. Ship Class:
2. armament:
3. Crew:
(If you have multiple ship classes, repeat 1, 2, and 3 for each ship class)

(Here is a list of Ship Classes:
http://i.imgur.com/gc9R73v.png
This does not include Steam Frigates or Ironclads, those don't have a limit on Guns or size.

Accompaniments: (Marines, etc)

Please remember to post this to the Archive Thread

There is no way, that your country is this strong. First of, that is way too many boats (especially first rates). Secondly, with a military of that size, most of your troops would be outfitted with old stuff you find in run down castles (Especially considering you are currently in the process of exiting bankruptcy). And Lastly, all of your American states are probably antsy to leave Spain. With Mexico already having pulled it off, it is only a matter of time before they all leave. So here are some changes that need to be made; reduce navy by a lot (about 80-85%), if you are going to keep that military size, make sure you understand they are not an army of 1.2 million crack shot infantry. More than half would be peasants. Lastly, you can either keep all of those lands in the Americas, but will most likely face large scale revolts within a year (could be made worse by actions taken by Mexico), or select a lot less land in America that will be easier to maintain.

Alright. Will do.

[Chewion]

I’ll be starting my invasion soon.

[The Transhuman Union]

I’ll be starting my invasion soon.

Ummm... ok? Why tell that in here?

[The Brand New Salvatagard Republic]

[box]
Nation name: The Iberian Empire
(Image)
National Ideology: Composite-Monarchy

Nation's Leader(s): Empress Maria I the Pious (in Portugal), Emperor Ferdinand VII the Desired (in Spain)

National Government Type: Absolutist-Duel Monarchist-Empire

National history: After Spain won the Portuguese Restoration War (1640-1668), King Carlos's advisers told him to take it lightly on the Portuguese. He agreed, and let the Portuguese have thier own Monarch. So, Iberia is now a Duel-Monarchy (like Austria-Hungary). King Alfonso I of Portugal and King Carlos II expanded thier Empire, taking over most of South America. By the early 1700's, Spain was in Chaos. King Pedro of Portugal sent 300,000 troops in Spain to restore order, but was unsuccessful. The Austrians then declared War on Iberia, and lost its Invasion. Order eventually came to Spain, bringing Prince Philip of France to the Spanish Throne. Over the decades, Iberia prospered (Besides a little mishaps). Real trouble began in 1775 when British colonist in North America were rebelling from King George III of Britain. King Carlos III of Spain decided to declare War on Britain in 1776. After the War, Iberia and France were bankrupt. They had to raise thier taxes by alot. By 1788, France was in turmoil, while Iberia was getting out of bankruptcy. In 1789, the French had enough of thier government. Thus, the French Revolution began.

Language: Spanish, Portuguese

National Religion: Catholicism

National Race/Culture/Identity: White, Iberian, Spanish, Portuguese, Iberian Colonial

Territory (Consult the link to the map on the OP): Iberia, Brazil, Angola, Mozambique, Guinea-Bissau, East Timor, Sri Lanka, Uraguay, Cape Verde, Taiwan, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Peru, the Philippines, Guam, Equatorial Guinea, Panama, Western Sahara Territory, and the rest of the Netherlands

Capital City: Madrid

Population: 33,770,115


MILITARY STATISTICS

Head General: Miguel Ricardo de Álava y Esquivel (Spain) and Miguel Pereira Forjaz, Count of Feira (Portugal)

Generals Staff: Prince John of Portugal; Juan Martín Díez; Francisco Javier Castaños, 1st Duke of Bailén; Francisco da Silveira Pinto da Fonseca Teixeira, 1st Count of Amarante

Military strength: 1,688,500
Extensive Conscription (5%)
(Please provide a Total Standing Army size)
(There are 7 different levels of Standing Army or Manpower; Disarmed Nation, Volunteer Only, Limited Conscription, Extensive Conscription and Service by Requirement, All Adults Serve and Scraping the Barrel. Each provide a certain amount of manpower, 1%, 1.5%, 2.5%, 5%, 10%, 20% and 25% respectively. Each of them have their own effects. For 5% and under, there are no ill effects. For above, penalties begin to occur in the domestic sector, disunity begins to increase and moral drops drastically. 1% has no bonuses if forced into it, if not, it shares the effects of 1.5%. 1.5% has greatly increased domestic output, strong unity and great moral. 2.5% has slightly increased domestic output and good unity. 5% has no effects.)

1. List the Branches of your Military (Marines, Army, Navy, Special Units, Cavalry, etc.) and their Manpower Size:
The Imperial Army: 1,180,000
The Imperial Navy: 330,000
Cavalry: 100,000
Artillery: 20,000
The Imperial Marines: 38,500
The Imperial Guard: 20,000

2. List size of naval forces (Ship wise, state the Manpower of your navy in Number 1), if any: 179 Naval ships
24 first rated (21,000 sailors)
18 second rated (13,500 sailors)
27 third rated (17,550 sailors)
19 fourth rated (7,980 sailors)
28 fifth rated (8,400 sailors)
37 sixth rated (7,400 sailors)
45 unrated (5,625 sailors)
81,455 regular sailors
248,545 sailors in reserves
(Image)

3. List amount of artillery, if any: 1,000

ARMAMENT


Infantry:1,180,000

Primary Weapon:(You can use a real world weapon, make your own, or rename a real world weapon) Iberian Arquebus

Secondary Weapon:(You can use a real world weapon, make your own, or rename a real world weapon)Pike

Melee Weapon: Imperial Saber

Uniform:(Please Provide Pictures or Description)(Image)

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.) Bible, a Hunting Knife, 2 canteens, messkit, 300 rounds, a small shovel

Greatest Strengths: amount of soldiers, good morale

Greatest Weaknesses: outdated weapons, slow loaders, easily loses morale, poorly trained, poor equipment

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.) entrenching


Cavalry:100,000

Primary Weapon: (You can use a real world weapon, make your own, or rename a real world weapon)Lances

Secondary Weapon: (You can use a real world weapon, make your own, or rename a real world weapon)MTS011 Double-Barreled Flintlock Pistol

Melee Weapon: Imperial Saber

Uniform: (Please provide picture or Description)(Image)

Pack gear: (Rations, Ammo, Tools, etc.) Bible, 2 canteens, a Hunting Knife, 300 rounds, a hammer

Greatest Strengths: strong morale

Greatest Weaknesses: too cautious except in battle

Specialty:(entrenching, anti cavalry, fast reload, etc.) fast reload


Artillery:

Cannon Type(s): 6 pnds to 32 pnds

Mortar Type(s): 6 inch

Rockets:(yes/no)no

Howitzer Type(s): 12 pnd

Shell types: heated, round, shrapnel, carcass

Men per artillery crew: 20

Mules/Horses: 6

Ships

1. Ship Class:
2. armament:
3. Crew:
(If you have multiple ship classes, repeat 1, 2, and 3 for each ship class)

(Here is a list of Ship Classes:
http://i.imgur.com/gc9R73v.png
This does not include Steam Frigates or Ironclads, those don't have a limit on Guns or size.

Accompaniments: (Marines, etc)

Please remember to post this to the Archive Thread

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