Of Ships and Girls and Shipgirls - a KanColle-RP (OOC)

[The Selkie]

I've been kicking around aircraft ideas for Horizon's refitted air groups, and all aircraft and weapons meet the 1955 cut-off. Each refit, while bringing stronger aircraft, brings with it costs and trade-offs though, so I'm not trying to make them hilariously broken or anything.

Horizon's 1st refit loadout. Would be carried around the early 50s. Aircraft capacity would be a bit lower, and, fortunately, increased resource consumption to maintain the fighters would be balanced by the low consumption from the ASW bombers. Losing the Mk2Bs is a pretty large loss in striking power comparatively though, while her ASW abilities sky-rocket.

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 12.2 m
Wingspan: 8.5 m
Height: 4.6 m
Wing area: 25 m²
Empty weight: 4750 kg
Loaded weight: 8400 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 11,150 kg
Powerplant: 1 x Mk52-8A turbojet engine, 50 kN dry thrust
Performance
Maximum speed: 600 knots
Combat Radius: 625 nmi
Range: 1700 nmi
Service ceiling: 13,000 m
Rate of climb: 50 m/s
Armament
Guns: 2 x 20mm Mk31 cannon (one in each wing-root)
Other: 5000 kg on 5 hardpoints (4 wing, 1 fuselage)
Notes: Carries fire control, search, and track radar

General characteristics
Crew: 4 (pilot, co-pilot, 2 x ASW technicians)
Length: 14 m
Wingspan: 22 m
Height: 5.5 m
Wing area: 45 m²
Empty weight: 8300 kg
Loaded weight: 10,650 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 12,000 kg
Powerplant: 2 × Aerial Technical Institute Mk82W radial engines, 1156 kW (1550 shp) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 260 knots
Cruising Speed: 130 knots
Range: 1200 nmi or 9 hours endurance
Service ceiling: 7000 m
Armament
Other: 2500 kg in internal bay and on 6 underwing hardpoints
Notes: Carries search and track radar

Horizon's final (for the scope of this RP) refit (1955 on the nose), aircraft loadout. Aircraft capacity would quite heavily be cut down from the number's she can carry currently (possibly severely depending how many Raiders she carries), and resource consumption would be phenomenal, Hotel levels even if she has to sorties mass groups of planes, in return for near unrivaled combat power.

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 16.5 m
Wingspan: 11 m
Height: 4.8 m
Wing area: 35 m²
Empty weight: 7950 kg
Loaded weight: 13,000 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 15,000 kg
Powerplant: 1 × Aerial Technical Institute Mk57-20A turbojet, 50 kN dry thrust, 80 kN thrust with afterburner
Performance
Maximum speed: 1065 knots
Combat Radius: 450 nmi
Ferry Range: 1750 nmi
Service ceiling: 17,700 m
Rate of climb: 97 m/s
Armament
Guns: 4 x Mk31 20mm cannon in lower fuselage
Missiles: 4 x Mk9M infrared homing missiles on Y-pylons
Other:

2 x Y-pylons (one on each side of fuselage), compatible with rockets/missiles
2 x underwing pylon stations with capacity of 2000 kg total

Notes: Carries fire control, search, and track radar

General characteristics
Crew: 3
Length: 23.25 m
Wingspan: 22.1 m
Height: 6.96 m
Wing area: 75.5 m²
Empty weight: 17,850 kg
Loaded weight: 31,750 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 37,200 kg
Powerplant: 2 × Aerial Technical Institute Mk57-10 turbojet, 50 kN dry thrust, 55 kN thrust with water injection
Performance
Maximum speed: 530 knots
Cruise Speed: 455 knots
Range: 1800 nmi
Service ceiling: 12,500 m
Armament
Guns: 2 x Mk31 20mm cannon in tail
Other: 6000 kg of ordnance
Notes: Carries search and track radar

I'll need to work over the actual refit for Horizon itself though, as she'll probably end up trading in a whole bunch of her guns for the air group refits. Her flight deck would also have to receive modifications, especially for the 1955 refit.

The planes sound good to me. I look forward to her refit, but I ask myself, which facilities she'll use for that.
Also, will Leopard, Ahrgen Point and Abgrund receive upgrades/refits as well? Just asking out of interest.

[North Arkana]

Leopard's sole refit would be... Rather extensive. She'd trade in her B mount gun and aft torpedo tubes for Terrier missile mounts (which was test launched off the USS Mississippi in 1953), and her A and C mount guns would be replaced with single barrel 5"/54s of updated model. She'd retain her 76mm AA guns, but they'd be under a more advanced FCS, and her remaining torpedo tubes would be put into use for operating heavyweight advanced torpedoes.

Ahrgen isn't likely to get a refit. Her helicopter remodel doesn't come until the 60s. A different remodel possibility would be conversion to a repair vessel, as the two deck cranes are capable of lifting wholely assembled Mk5PBAs.

The only refit possible for Abgrund, outside of more advanced torpedoes, is rather outside the scope of the RP.

[The Selkie]

Leopard's sole refit would be... Rather extensive. She'd trade in her B mount gun and aft torpedo tubes for Terrier missile mounts (which was test launched off the USS Mississippi in 1953), and her A and C mount guns would be replaced with single barrel 5"/54s of updated model. She'd retain her 76mm AA guns, but they'd be under a more advanced FCS, and her remaining torpedo tubes would be put into use for operating heavyweight advanced torpedoes.

Ahrgen isn't likely to get a refit. Her helicopter remodel doesn't come until the 60s. A different remodel possibility would be conversion to a repair vessel, as the two deck cranes are capable of lifting wholely assembled Mk5PBAs.

The only refit possible for Abgrund, outside of more advanced torpedoes, is rather outside the scope of the RP.

I see. Thank you for sating my curiosity, especially concerning Leopard.

[Novaya Equestria]

If any of you guys want to ask, yes, Denestovan, or Denestoban (in the Denestovan people's case), is Filipino and Sapinish is, of of course, Spanish. I'm Filipino, after all.

[Legatia]

Rustyal and Serk, just a reminder that Whona and K591 should sortie about now.

[The Canadian North-West]

I don't know how to re-enter, except maybe having Vancouver looking for Ámóg :s

[New Antonalia]

I've been kicking around aircraft ideas for Horizon's refitted air groups, and all aircraft and weapons meet the 1955 cut-off. Each refit, while bringing stronger aircraft, brings with it costs and trade-offs though, so I'm not trying to make them hilariously broken or anything.

Horizon's 1st refit loadout. Would be carried around the early 50s. Aircraft capacity would be a bit lower, and, fortunately, increased resource consumption to maintain the fighters would be balanced by the low consumption from the ASW bombers. Losing the Mk2Bs is a pretty large loss in striking power comparatively though, while her ASW abilities sky-rocket.

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 12.2 m
Wingspan: 8.5 m
Height: 4.6 m
Wing area: 25 m²
Empty weight: 4750 kg
Loaded weight: 8400 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 11,150 kg
Powerplant: 1 x Mk52-8A turbojet engine, 50 kN dry thrust
Performance
Maximum speed: 600 knots
Combat Radius: 625 nmi
Range: 1700 nmi
Service ceiling: 13,000 m
Rate of climb: 50 m/s
Armament
Guns: 2 x 20mm Mk31 cannon (one in each wing-root)
Other: 5000 kg on 5 hardpoints (4 wing, 1 fuselage)
Notes: Carries fire control, search, and track radar

General characteristics
Crew: 4 (pilot, co-pilot, 2 x ASW technicians)
Length: 14 m
Wingspan: 22 m
Height: 5.5 m
Wing area: 45 m²
Empty weight: 8300 kg
Loaded weight: 10,650 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 12,000 kg
Powerplant: 2 × Aerial Technical Institute Mk82W radial engines, 1156 kW (1550 shp) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 260 knots
Cruising Speed: 130 knots
Range: 1200 nmi or 9 hours endurance
Service ceiling: 7000 m
Armament
Other: 2500 kg in internal bay and on 6 underwing hardpoints
Notes: Carries search and track radar

Horizon's final (for the scope of this RP) refit (1955 on the nose), aircraft loadout. Aircraft capacity would quite heavily be cut down from the number's she can carry currently (possibly severely depending how many Raiders she carries), and resource consumption would be phenomenal, Hotel levels even if she has to sorties mass groups of planes, in return for near unrivaled combat power.

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 16.5 m
Wingspan: 11 m
Height: 4.8 m
Wing area: 35 m²
Empty weight: 7950 kg
Loaded weight: 13,000 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 15,000 kg
Powerplant: 1 × Aerial Technical Institute Mk57-20A turbojet, 50 kN dry thrust, 80 kN thrust with afterburner
Performance
Maximum speed: 1065 knots
Combat Radius: 450 nmi
Ferry Range: 1750 nmi
Service ceiling: 17,700 m
Rate of climb: 97 m/s
Armament
Guns: 4 x Mk31 20mm cannon in lower fuselage
Missiles: 4 x Mk9M infrared homing missiles on Y-pylons
Other:

2 x Y-pylons (one on each side of fuselage), compatible with rockets/missiles
2 x underwing pylon stations with capacity of 2000 kg total

Notes: Carries fire control, search, and track radar

General characteristics
Crew: 3
Length: 23.25 m
Wingspan: 22.1 m
Height: 6.96 m
Wing area: 75.5 m²
Empty weight: 17,850 kg
Loaded weight: 31,750 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 37,200 kg
Powerplant: 2 × Aerial Technical Institute Mk57-10 turbojet, 50 kN dry thrust, 55 kN thrust with water injection
Performance
Maximum speed: 530 knots
Cruise Speed: 455 knots
Range: 1800 nmi
Service ceiling: 12,500 m
Armament
Guns: 2 x Mk31 20mm cannon in tail
Other: 6000 kg of ordnance
Notes: Carries search and track radar

I'll need to work over the actual refit for Horizon itself though, as she'll probably end up trading in a whole bunch of her guns for the air group refits. Her flight deck would also have to receive modifications, especially for the 1955 refit.

The planes sound good to me. I look forward to her refit, but I ask myself, which facilities she'll use for that.
Also, will Leopard, Ahrgen Point and Abgrund receive upgrades/refits as well? Just asking out of interest.

So, does this mean I can use the equivalent of a Yak-23 in my 1950 refit for Fyodor Volkov since we're allowing jets now?

[Sterkistan]

Rustyal and Serk, just a reminder that Whona and K591 should sortie about now.

Sorry, half forgot but edited my post to wait for Rustyal.

[The Selkie]

I don't know how to re-enter, except maybe having Vancouver looking for Ámóg :s

That'd be an option, yes. To be honest, though, I'm so used to calling her Amy, that I nearly forgot, who you meant...
Anyway, would you like a short summary?

So, does this mean I can use the equivalent of a Yak-23 in my 1950 refit for Fyodor Volkov since we're allowing jets now?

We always allowed jets as part of upgrades and refits, early first generation ones, until 1955 (formerly 1950), so yes, an equivalent of the Yak 23 is absolutely fine.

[Rustyal]

https://i.imgur.com/ebk7zq9.jpg

K-591. Smol.

[Novaya Equestria]

Sorry guys. I won't be available to RP for 3 days starting today. My right hand will need some healing of course.

[The Selkie]

https://i.imgur.com/ebk7zq9.jpg

K-591. Smol.

She is so cute... and summoned for patrol... Amy wants to hug her and pet her and scratch her behind the ears and help her with her homework...

Sorry guys. I won't be available to RP for 3 days starting today. My right hand will need some healing of course.

No problem, thanks for the notification. Take time to heal and get better!

[Bentus]

Oof, that post took longer to write than it should've - apologies for some subpar writing, I think I'm still trying to decide on Lewis' character as I go.

[The Cross and Davids Star]

To be honest, I really want to see the J7W Shinden be put into action as a carrier-based plane. I adore the way it looks and what it's role would be if it was actually put into combat. If possible I want to make a prototype plane based around it. I could imagine an Abyssal bomber squadron trying to attack a ship only to be torn to shreds by a squadron of these.

[New Antonalia]

To be honest, I really want to see the J7W Shinden be put into action as a carrier-based plane. I adore the way it looks and what it's role would be if it was actually put into combat. If possible I want to make a prototype plane based around it. I could imagine an Abyssal bomber squadron trying to attack a ship only to be torn to shreds by a squadron of these.

Unrealistic at best, pusher planes suffer from a host of problems ranging from weight distribution to aerodynamics. The J7W was probably better than most in this regard but it was horrifically outmatched by the more maneuverable A6M series and the more advanced allied fighters that were coming out towards the end of the war.

[Lunas Legion]

To be honest, I really want to see the J7W Shinden be put into action as a carrier-based plane. I adore the way it looks and what it's role would be if it was actually put into combat. If possible I want to make a prototype plane based around it. I could imagine an Abyssal bomber squadron trying to attack a ship only to be torn to shreds by a squadron of these.

Unrealistic at best, pusher planes suffer from a host of problems ranging from weight distribution to aerodynamics. The J7W was probably better than most in this regard but it was horrifically outmatched by the more maneuverable A6M series and the more advanced allied fighters that were coming out towards the end of the war.

Because it was designed as an interceptor, not a fighter, so it didn't need to be maneuverable.

[The Selkie]

Oof, that post took longer to write than it should've - apologies for some subpar writing, I think I'm still trying to decide on Lewis' character as I go.

I like the post, especially the reaction of Lewis to Searc's behaviour - she is a flirt, after all. ; )
To avoid confusion, Bentus and I made a little bit of backstory, that the two of them served in the same naval base before, although their interactions were minimal at best. They knew, that the other one existed before they departed for OS WS-SW and a bit of each others reputation.

To be honest, I really want to see the J7W Shinden be put into action as a carrier-based plane. I adore the way it looks and what it's role would be if it was actually put into combat. If possible I want to make a prototype plane based around it. I could imagine an Abyssal bomber squadron trying to attack a ship only to be torn to shreds by a squadron of these.

Yes and no - the Shinden would be within our technological range, yes, but she was not intended as a carrier plane. KanColle does have a Shinden Kai, though, with a reinforced tail and arresting hook. I'm no engineer, I must admit, so... eh, why not?
Besides, who can resist this cute lassie?

[The Cross and Davids Star]

Yes and no - the Shinden would be within our technological range, yes, but she was not intended as a carrier plane. KanColle does have a Shinden Kai, though, with a reinforced tail and arresting hook. I'm no engineer, I must admit, so... eh, why not?
Besides, who can resist this cute lassie?

Selkie, you just made my day.

[Higher Japan]

>Sees J7W

I call dibs for Tokai K2

[The Cross and Davids Star]

>Sees J7W

I call dibs for Tokai K2

Hey! I'm the one who brought it up!

[Higher Japan]

>Sees J7W

I call dibs for Tokai K2

Hey! I'm the one who brought it up!

I know but I called dibs.

jkjk. Not much posting motivation for now so posts might slow down and then accelerate.

[The Cross and Davids Star]

Hey! I'm the one who brought it up!

I know but I called dibs.

jkjk. Not much posting motivation for now so posts might slow down and then accelerate.

Aight, I might have Prophet sign up for some of the scouting missions, as well as the salvage mission.

[The Selkie]

Yes and no - the Shinden would be within our technological range, yes, but she was not intended as a carrier plane. KanColle does have a Shinden Kai, though, with a reinforced tail and arresting hook. I'm no engineer, I must admit, so... eh, why not?
Besides, who can resist this cute lassie?

Selkie, you just made my day.

You're very welcome. Both you and Higher Japan and anyone else capable of using them can use them, though.

On this note, for peer review, the Sciathán Fabhcún Fighter-Bomber, an all-weather and carrier-capable single-seat, jet-powered aircraft of the Sciathán Industries, their second jet fighter to enter serial production:

Technical Data
Length: 14.5 metres
Wingspan: 12.7 metres
Height: 4.5 metres
Empty Weight: 6 tons
Max. takeoff weight: 11.5 tons
Powerplant: 2 turbojets, 14.5 kN each
Max speed: 950 km/h (at sea level)
Range: 2250 km
Armament:
[list]4x 30mm cannons (nose),
750 kg of bombs or unguided rockets
on external hardpoints

The Sciathán Fabhcún was the second foray of the SDF into the wonderful world of jet-powered aircraft, the first being the SDF-Army's Réalta Reatha, the Shooting Star. Due to its construction and the first flight on the 23rd of February 1947, the Fabhcún is considered a first-generation fighter jet. The Mark II, the production model which will be used here, was introduced in 1948.
The Fabhcún is an airborne predator endemic to the Free Lands, the term itself used synonimously to the word falcon.

Design
The Fabhcún is a jet-powered aircraft with two powerful engines mounted internally, with long straight wings spanning a total of 12.7 metres, which does not include any additional, wingtip-mounted fuel tanks. Armed with four 30mm cannons, two in the nose and two on the wings, close to the engines and fuselage, as well as the capability to carry 750 kilograms of bombs or unguided rockets on hardpoints, the Fabhcún is a very capable fighter-bomber and, due to a small, nose-mounted radar, all-weather capable.
Said radar, a massive system occupying of the nose what wasn't occupied by the two 30mm cannons and their ammunition stores, had a range of 30 kilometres, depending on the weather, providing data about aerial targets, their speed, altitude and, due to tracking, course, while also being able to detect ground targets, for example ships. It was also capable to interact with an IFF-System. A second, targetting radar was experimented with, but introduced with the Mark III.
Additional systems of the Fabhcún were an ejection seat, a fully pressurized cockpit, but not air-conditioned, the flaps, air brakes and landing gear were electrically, while the folding wings and canopy were pneumatic. The canopy itself was electrically heated to prevent frost.
Some Mark IIs were modified for high-altitude photo-reconnaissance.

The Fabhcún performed well on high altitudes, but was slower then smaller interceptors with swept wings, so the plan for them was to either become the bomber themselves, in a CAS-role, or to force the enemy to meet the Fabhcún on high altitudes, where the playing field was more level.
The Fabhcún was pulled out of frontline service in favour of the Seachmall, starting in 1958, after just ten years of service, but were fully retired in the early 60s, after serving in auxiliary and training roles, as well as testbeds. Although the SDF-Navy never had a full-fledged aircraft carrier, many of planes designed by Sciathan Limited were designed for short take-offs and landings, as well as with folding wings for easier storage, making them carrier-capable - in addition of it being good for the marketing in case of exports. However, a stronger flight deck is required for carrier-operations.

The Seachmall will make no appearance here.

I plan on them to arrive with a second supply convoy on Day 4.

[New Antonalia]

OK, so when do patrols start?

[The Cross and Davids Star]

OK, so when do patrols start?

Whona and K-591 went out on a patrol, but they're being stalked by Abgrund, who may end up causing trouble.