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Postby The Valyria Empire » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:58 pm

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Britanania wrote:As far as we know, they are the only immortals, yes


Well, there was another one in a spinoff (I think it was Renya of Darkness) called U.U., but yeah. Still, would make sense if there were more immortals over the past few thousand years.

Those with Code seem to have a sorta "pass on to the next generation". They try to find a suitable person, make a contract and give them Geass. They either master the Geass or lose control of it (have it in both eyes) then they kill themselves or are killed by the person with Geass. With this the person with Geass gains their code (thus Code Geass). So if let's say there's only 10 immortals in the whole world, the number wouldn't change as they can only pass the code on to one person.

This explains why Lelouch is alive at the end. He killed Charles, thus obtaining his Code, however the Code doesn't activate until they die. With Spinzaku killing him it allowed his Code to activate. Thus we have an immortal Lelouch

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Postby Nea Videssos » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:37 pm

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Well, there was another one in a spinoff (I think it was Renya of Darkness) called U.U., but yeah. Still, would make sense if there were more immortals over the past few thousand years.

Those with Code seem to have a sorta "pass on to the next generation". They try to find a suitable person, make a contract and give them Geass. They either master the Geass or lose control of it (have it in both eyes) then they kill themselves or are killed by the person with Geass. With this the person with Geass gains their code (thus Code Geass). So if let's say there's only 10 immortals in the whole world, the number wouldn't change as they can only pass the code on to one person.

This explains why Lelouch is alive at the end. He killed Charles, thus obtaining his Code, however the Code doesn't activate until they die. With Spinzaku killing him it allowed his Code to activate. Thus we have an immortal Lelouch


Yeah, I know how the system works, I just wasn't really sure how many immortals there were in total at any given time (though I hoped there were more than just C.C. and V.V.). And yeah, I'd already subscribed to that theory about Lelouch and Charles.

On another note, I wonder how the very first immortals came about?
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Postby Britanania » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:52 pm

Nea Videssos wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Those with Code seem to have a sorta "pass on to the next generation". They try to find a suitable person, make a contract and give them Geass. They either master the Geass or lose control of it (have it in both eyes) then they kill themselves or are killed by the person with Geass. With this the person with Geass gains their code (thus Code Geass). So if let's say there's only 10 immortals in the whole world, the number wouldn't change as they can only pass the code on to one person.

This explains why Lelouch is alive at the end. He killed Charles, thus obtaining his Code, however the Code doesn't activate until they die. With Spinzaku killing him it allowed his Code to activate. Thus we have an immortal Lelouch


Yeah, I know how the system works, I just wasn't really sure how many immortals there were in total at any given time (though I hoped there were more than just C.C. and V.V.). And yeah, I'd already subscribed to that theory about Lelouch and Charles.

On another note, I wonder how the very first immortals came about?

My interests aren't for the more esoteric aspects, but more the political xD

To each his own, I suppose.
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Postby New Neros » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:59 pm

Britanania wrote:
Nea Videssos wrote:
Yeah, I know how the system works, I just wasn't really sure how many immortals there were in total at any given time (though I hoped there were more than just C.C. and V.V.). And yeah, I'd already subscribed to that theory about Lelouch and Charles.

On another note, I wonder how the very first immortals came about?

My interests aren't for the more esoteric aspects, but more the political xD

To each his own, I suppose.

To that end, would additional Code Bearers be allowed?
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Postby Britanania » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:00 pm

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Britanania wrote:My interests aren't for the more esoteric aspects, but more the political xD

To each his own, I suppose.

To that end, would additional Code Bearers be allowed?

Maybe, but not right now. Right now I think it's better if we focus on the grouting, i.e, the political and military
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Postby Virshia » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:01 pm

Britanania wrote:
New Neros wrote:To that end, would additional Code Bearers be allowed?

Maybe, but not right now. Right now I think it's better if we focus on the grouting, i.e, the political and military


There's a bit of Code Geass tech that I'd like to use....Bamides.

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Postby Britanania » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:02 pm

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Britanania wrote:Maybe, but not right now. Right now I think it's better if we focus on the grouting, i.e, the political and military


There's a bit of Code Geass tech that I'd like to use....Bamides.

The Arab knock offs?

Seeing as this is only a year after the invasion of Japan, I don't think other nations have Knightmares yet.
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Postby Nea Videssos » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:11 pm

Britanania wrote:
Nea Videssos wrote:
Yeah, I know how the system works, I just wasn't really sure how many immortals there were in total at any given time (though I hoped there were more than just C.C. and V.V.). And yeah, I'd already subscribed to that theory about Lelouch and Charles.

On another note, I wonder how the very first immortals came about?

My interests aren't for the more esoteric aspects, but more the political xD

To each his own, I suppose.


Well, I enjoy both esoteric and political elements alike. :p

Britanania wrote:
New Neros wrote:To that end, would additional Code Bearers be allowed?

Maybe, but not right now. Right now I think it's better if we focus on the grouting, i.e, the political and military


Meanwhile, my char-in-progress is a Britannian noble trap with a Geass, and I've been perusing what title to give to him (or more probably his father). Wasn't sure about the exact set up of the homeland, I.E. exact provincial organisation, what duchies and grand duchies there were, and so on, but I suppose it's not completely different from the RL set up. There's also a fanfic I saw with this, which could be used for ideas.
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Postby New Neros » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:48 pm

Nea Videssos wrote:
Britanania wrote:My interests aren't for the more esoteric aspects, but more the political xD

To each his own, I suppose.


Well, I enjoy both esoteric and political elements alike. :p

Britanania wrote:Maybe, but not right now. Right now I think it's better if we focus on the grouting, i.e, the political and military


Meanwhile, my char-in-progress is a Britannian noble trap with a Geass, and I've been perusing what title to give to him (or more probably his father). Wasn't sure about the exact set up of the homeland, I.E. exact provincial organisation, what duchies and grand duchies there were, and so on, but I suppose it's not completely different from the RL set up. There's also a fanfic I saw with this, which could be used for ideas.

Oh, those look great! I'm down for using that, but I'm only using minor nobility if any at all.

Britanania wrote:
New Neros wrote:To that end, would additional Code Bearers be allowed?

Maybe, but not right now. Right now I think it's better if we focus on the grouting, i.e, the political and military


Understandable, I will probably be bringing in a Knight Order, the leader of which will have a Geass, if acceptable and approved.
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:28 pm

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Britanania wrote:trap with Geass

Why am I not surprised?

Speaking of this though, we should discuss the limitations of characters with Geass. What powers can they have and can not. The range of certain powers, and if those characters have mastered their Geass or it's out of control.
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Postby Britanania » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:29 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Nea Videssos wrote:

Why am I not surprised?

Speaking of this though, we should discuss the limitations of characters with Geass. What powers can they have and can not. The range of certain powers, and if those characters have mastered their Geass or it's out of control.

I'll largely look at a case by case level.
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:31 pm

Britanania wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Why am I not surprised?

Speaking of this though, we should discuss the limitations of characters with Geass. What powers can they have and can not. The range of certain powers, and if those characters have mastered their Geass or it's out of control.

I'll largely look at a case by case level.

Perhaps a limit on a Geass users? I don't want to have an RP where everyone has heresy.

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Postby Britanania » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:44 pm

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Britanania wrote:I'll largely look at a case by case level.

Perhaps a limit on a Geass users? I don't want to have an RP where everyone has heresy.

I'll likely only accept a few, if any, really.
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Postby New Neros » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:17 am

Britanania wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Perhaps a limit on a Geass users? I don't want to have an RP where everyone has heresy.

I'll likely only accept a few, if any, really.

Sad, here was my write up for a Geass, can you tell me if it would be acceptable?:

User is able to accelerate their thought process, along with the nervous system to carry out reactions to the increased information load. This grants them superhuman speed and reaction times, but as they become proficient with the Geass, it will suddenly remain constantly active. This means that the user will start living in a perpetual time lag, rendering even basic communication between the user and others nothing but boring wait times as the person's body won't even be able to keep up with the information increase at that stage. It further becomes a complete prison as the Geass spreads to the second eye, making the world come to a near stand still for the user. Minutes become years, and since the users body can't react in time to this perception of events, the user is stuck for centuries in their own mind.

This Geass was planned for an antagonist for my characters, who would be baited to keep using his Geass once it's abilities are uncovered and it's weaknesses become known.
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:22 am

I think that instead of becoming stuck in the frozen mind I think something biological would better (kinda like Rolo's). We use only so much of our brains, and the max speed of them is set for a reason. I feel like if the nervous system and brain were "running a mile a minute" in this case I feel like it would put a lot of strain on them. I could see a coma happening, or becoming paralyzed due to the body having issues keeping up.

I think it's better that even when it's not at it's maximum the Geass should have its downsides. Roll had his heart, Lelouch could only use once per person, etc. There should be the ultimate consequence of when it gets out of control, but also limitations before that.
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Postby New Neros » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:42 am

The Valyria Empire wrote:I think that instead of becoming stuck in the frozen mind I think something biological would better (kinda like Rolo's). We use only so much of our brains, and the max speed of them is set for a reason. I feel like if the nervous system and brain were "running a mile a minute" in this case I feel like it would put a lot of strain on them. I could see a coma happening, or becoming paralyzed due to the body having issues keeping up.

I think it's better that even when it's not at it's maximum the Geass should have its downsides. Roll had his heart, Lelouch could only use once per person, etc. There should be the ultimate consequence of when it gets out of control, but also limitations before that.

Indeed, the immediate downsides is extreme exhaustion after the fact, since our brains and nervous system consumes so much of our expended energy. You're just upping that expenditure for momentary advantages.

That could be a better solution, honestly, as the user would just fall over dead from information overload and the immense strain they'd put on their bodies, there by exploding their heart as it tries to keep up with the demands of the brain and muscles vying for the last energy reserves.
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Postby Britanania » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:56 am

For now, no one can start with a Geass but you can gain one later.

I think that's the most fair
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:59 am

Britanania wrote:For now, no one can start with a Geass but you can gain one later.

I think that's the most fair

Hmm. So this raises the question of who will give out the Geass.

May I assume that Camelot has been founded? I figured Edward having the Prose Lancelot (prototype Lancelot) that Camelot would have made it and are currently working on the actual Lancelot.

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Postby Britanania » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:04 am

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Britanania wrote:For now, no one can start with a Geass but you can gain one later.

I think that's the most fair

Hmm. So this raises the question of who will give out the Geass.

May I assume that Camelot has been founded? I figured Edward having the Prose Lancelot (prototype Lancelot) that Camelot would have made it and are currently working on the actual Lancelot.

That's a reasonable assumption.

As for Clovis, he's 18 by by account, and won't become full Viceroy until 21. Until then York is serving as regent
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Postby Nea Videssos » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:11 am

Britanania wrote:For now, no one can start with a Geass but you can gain one later.

I think that's the most fair


Ah. Guess I'll rewrite that character idea, then.
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:31 am

Britanania wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Hmm. So this raises the question of who will give out the Geass.

May I assume that Camelot has been founded? I figured Edward having the Prose Lancelot (prototype Lancelot) that Camelot would have made it and are currently working on the actual Lancelot.

That's a reasonable assumption.

As for Clovis, he's 18 by by account, and won't become full Viceroy until 21. Until then York is serving as regent

21 seems odd to allow someone to be full Viceroy considering Nunnally was Viceroy at the age of 16. I think that 18 would be a reasonable age for someone to be full Viceroy. Now York I could easily see being an advisor until the transfer of power (The Toyko Settlement is complete.) is finished. Acting as a Marshal for Area 11's armed forces.

Also thought I would mention this since I had to re read York's bio (realized you removed him being in charge of Area 3, so I'll need to give Edward a new reason for conflict between the two.) but sub-Viceroy wasn't a thing (at least not in area 11) until Cornelia came to power.

The position of Sub-Viceroy, despite its connection to the Viceroy, is a ceremonial position with no authority that Cornelia devised to keep Euphemia close.
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Postby Britanania » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:30 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Britanania wrote:That's a reasonable assumption.

As for Clovis, he's 18 by by account, and won't become full Viceroy until 21. Until then York is serving as regent

21 seems odd to allow someone to be full Viceroy considering Nunnally was Viceroy at the age of 16. I think that 18 would be a reasonable age for someone to be full Viceroy. Now York I could easily see being an advisor until the transfer of power (The Toyko Settlement is complete.) is finished. Acting as a Marshal for Area 11's armed forces.

Also thought I would mention this since I had to re read York's bio (realized you removed him being in charge of Area 3, so I'll need to give Edward a new reason for conflict between the two.) but sub-Viceroy wasn't a thing (at least not in area 11) until Cornelia came to power.

The position of Sub-Viceroy, despite its connection to the Viceroy, is a ceremonial position with no authority that Cornelia devised to keep Euphemia close.

I suppose I see your point, I just find it odd that the Empire, which seems to run pretty well, would let relatively young people rule vast territories and I always assumed Nunnally was a puppet ruler
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Postby Nea Videssos » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:57 pm

Hmm...

Whilst my original idea in the old RP involved a half-Britannian-half Japanese noble, it would look weird if there were loads of half-Japanese Britannian nobles in the RP, and there's already another already, so it'd probably be best just to for him to be fully Britannian.
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Postby Virshia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:02 pm

Nea Videssos wrote:Hmm...

Whilst my original idea in the old RP involved a half-Britannian-half Japanese noble, it would look weird if there were loads of half-Japanese Britannian nobles in the RP, and there's already another already, so it'd probably be best just to for him to be fully Britannian.


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Postby The Valyria Empire » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:37 pm

Britanania wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:21 seems odd to allow someone to be full Viceroy considering Nunnally was Viceroy at the age of 16. I think that 18 would be a reasonable age for someone to be full Viceroy. Now York I could easily see being an advisor until the transfer of power (The Toyko Settlement is complete.) is finished. Acting as a Marshal for Area 11's armed forces.

Also thought I would mention this since I had to re read York's bio (realized you removed him being in charge of Area 3, so I'll need to give Edward a new reason for conflict between the two.) but sub-Viceroy wasn't a thing (at least not in area 11) until Cornelia came to power.


I suppose I see your point, I just find it odd that the Empire, which seems to run pretty well, would let relatively young people rule vast territories and I always assumed Nunnally was a puppet ruler

I think it has to do something to do with Social Darwinism and monarchism in general.

Many times in the middle ages a ruler would give his heir a bit of land to govern to help practice for when he would take his father's spot. It seems the same happens in the HBE. The Areas are governed by royalty which allows them to learn how to be a ruler. Then once the Emperor dies, depending on each child's power by that point they could try to claim the throne for themselves.

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