1900 : Alternative Divergence [AH][DEAD]

[Turkducken]

But not as glorious as Germania

R E M O V E G * R M A N A N D C * M M U N I S T

Did someone say Communism?

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

R E M O V E G * R M A N A N D C * M M U N I S T

Did someone say Communism?

What is communism? I see only a constitutional monarchy ;U; hides socialists in corner

[Danceria]

R E M O V E G * R M A N A N D C * M M U N I S T

Did someone say Communism?

Did someone say Communism?

What is communism? I see only a constitutional monarchy ;U; hides socialists in corner

*points and shrieks angrily at Russia*

[Mechanist Combine]

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Nation Name: Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Territory:

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[Tracian Empire]

Reservation

Nation Name: Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Territory:

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As you can see in the posts above yourself, Poland-Lithuania has already been claimed.

[Turkducken]

Reservation

Nation Name: Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Territory:

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As you can see in the posts above yourself, Poland-Lithuania has already been claimed.

Can I get a check on my app btw?

[Mechanist Combine]

Reservation

Nation Name: Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Territory:

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As you can see in the posts above yourself, Poland-Lithuania has already been claimed.

Not really... But if you say it is claimed, it is claimed.

[Danceria]

As you can see in the posts above yourself, Poland-Lithuania has already been claimed.

Not really... But if you say it is claimed, it is claimed.

If someone can make a better Poland Lithuania, I can always plant a flag in North America, as some sort of Shoshone-lookin nonsense.
EDIT: I could always be the United States of Canada, eh? Except, Celtic, Scandinavian and French because why the fuck not.

[The Industrial States of Columbia]

Did someone say Communism?

What is communism? I see only a constitutional monarchy ;U; hides socialists in corner

*points and shrieks angrily at Russia*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qwU1LQZA5g

[Tracian Empire]

As you can see in the posts above yourself, Poland-Lithuania has already been claimed.

Not really... But if you say it is claimed, it is claimed.

Danceria claimed Poland-Lithuania-Ruthenia, and the last few pages of the OOC are filled with discussions about it and mentions of it. The map and the list have unfortunately not yet been updated due to various problems that us, the OP's, have been facing IRL.

You have to discuss it with Danceria. If he is willing to back down, sure, but there is nothing to force him to do that.

And even if he does, you will be unable to claim the entirety of the territory shown in that image. Russia is alive and well as a Soviet state with western borders roughly around those of modern day Russia, and we have a Prussians state holding a good chunk of Poland including Warsaw.

[Axis Asteroid]

Danceria claimed Poland-Lithuania-Ruthenia, and the last few pages of the OOC are filled with discussions about it and mentions of it. The map and the list have unfortunately not yet been updated due to various problems that us, the OP's, have been facing IRL.

You have to discuss it with Danceria. If he is willing to back down, sure, but there is nothing to force him to do that.

And even if he does, you will be unable to claim the entirety of the territory shown in that image. Russia is alive and well as a Soviet state with western borders roughly around those of modern day Russia, and we have a Prussians state holding a good chunk of Poland including Warsaw.

Trace, is switching nations and creating a new app allowed? I'm low key considering roleplaying as France now that it's available, but I'm willing to stick with the Goths if it's not.

[Tracian Empire]

Danceria claimed Poland-Lithuania-Ruthenia, and the last few pages of the OOC are filled with discussions about it and mentions of it. The map and the list have unfortunately not yet been updated due to various problems that us, the OP's, have been facing IRL.

You have to discuss it with Danceria. If he is willing to back down, sure, but there is nothing to force him to do that.

And even if he does, you will be unable to claim the entirety of the territory shown in that image. Russia is alive and well as a Soviet state with western borders roughly around those of modern day Russia, and we have a Prussians state holding a good chunk of Poland including Warsaw.

Trace, is switching nations and creating a new app allowed? I'm low key considering roleplaying as France now that it's available, but I'm willing to stick with the Goths if it's not.

If it's free, it's okay of course, even if of course, I'd love to interact with the Goths.. but just pick whatever you'd like the most

We have had a history of players controlling two nations if one of them is small and rather irrelevant, but that would be too much effort.

Feel free to go with France, France is something that any world war would need.

[Axis Asteroid]

Trace, is switching nations and creating a new app allowed? I'm low key considering roleplaying as France now that it's available, but I'm willing to stick with the Goths if it's not.

If it's free, it's okay of course, even if of course, I'd love to interact with the Goths.. but just pick whatever you'd like the most

We have had a history of players controlling two nations if one of them is small and rather irrelevant, but that would be too much effort.

Feel free to go with France, France is something that any world war would need.

Hmm... I'm kinda split right now tbh. I love France b/c of Napoleon. I would probably have him win Waterloo for my divergence.

On the other hand, I've recently read about the Black Sea Goths, so if Ukraine is still available, we can keep the current dynamic with a slight shift in geography. Though that depends if Ukraine is still available.

[Tracian Empire]

If it's free, it's okay of course, even if of course, I'd love to interact with the Goths.. but just pick whatever you'd like the most

We have had a history of players controlling two nations if one of them is small and rather irrelevant, but that would be too much effort.

Feel free to go with France, France is something that any world war would need.

Hmm... I'm kinda split right now tbh. I love France b/c of Napoleon. I would probably have him win Waterloo for my divergence.

On the other hand, I've recently read about the Black Sea Goths, so if Ukraine is still available, we can keep the current dynamic with a slight shift in geography. Though that depends if Ukraine is still available.

It depends. We can theoretically argue that Ukraine is presently claimed by Danceria, so it's up to him. It could be feasible to have a Polish-Lithuanian state in Poland, Ruthenia, and the Baltics, and a Gothic state in the Ukraine. In fact, that would be amazing, since in combination with Russia, it would bring a lot of dynamic to Eastern Europe.

A Napoleonic victory in France would be interesting, but it would be a little more difficult to explain.

[Kinistian]

Das Kaiserreich von Preußen
(The Imperial Kingdom of Prussia)

Full Nation Name : The Imperial Kingdom of Prussia
Majority/Official Culture : German Prussian
Territorial Core : East Prussia to the City of Riga in the Baltics

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357966691801497601/357974415738142720/Kingdom_of_Saxony.png

Territorial Claim :----none
Capital City :Berlin
Population :36 million

Government Type : Parliamentary Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : The Imperial Kingdom of Prussia is currently undergoing a phase of militarism,nationalism,Imperialism .
Government Focus : The Kingdom highly prized itself in its military. From the days of Fredrick the Great the Prussian Kingdom as prides itself in being a major power in mainland Europe. The economy of Prussia also follows this line of doctrine,as most agricultural and industrial assets are geared to helping the army in some way.
Head of State :Kaiser Frederick Willam V
Head of Government : Chancellor Hugo von Masur
Government Description :
The Imperial Kingdom of Prussia is ruled by a Monarchy but the Monarchs have taken a back role to politics since Frederick the IV disastrous attempt of unifying Germany,who abdicated for his son Fredrick V.

Under the new Kaiser,Prussia switched from a absolute monarchy to Parliamentary style government where the people of Prussia would be given a style of democracy. The Kaiser retained power over this Parliament by having the right to Veto election results however and the military still being loyal to him and not the Parliament. If Parliament wanted to pass new legislation or conduct war they would need the Kaiser's blessing.

Parliament did have some power though,the ministry conducted most of the governance of the Kingdom in name of the Kaiser and created a fairly well Constitution. The Chancellor would gain power only second to the Kaiser himself,having the power to conduct foreign and domestic policies.

Majority/State Religion : A majority practice Catholicism with a few minorites of Lutherans,Protestants,and Eastern Orthodoxy(occupied Baltic Regions).
Religious Description : RL religions

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism/Mercantilism
Major Production : Agricultural Goods,Steel,Coal,Ammunition
Economic Description :
Prussia has historically been a very agricultural society where half of the food of Germany came from as well some reserves of coal and steel though not as plentiful that there was in the west. For a good while after the Saxe-Prusso Hegemony war of 1865,a lot of the established industrial power that Prussia had was lost to the Saxons though the army was smart enough to take most of the industrial equipment with them as the fled to Berlin. Prussia would lag behind in terms of Industrial strength for a few years before springing back into the fold with the establishment of a new industrial heart land base in East Prussia.

Prussias economy strongly resembles that of its Western neighbor but has far less Coal fields. Agricultural Prussia does very well having taken parts of Poland in 1869. It gained more Industrial potential when it invaded the Baltic states until they Reached Riga,taking control of the factories in those areas.


Tech Group : Western European

Army Description : The Prussian army has large standing army of about 750,000 men with 250,000 of them being professional fighting men with other 500,000 being conscripts serving their mandatory 3 years of service before being put in the reserve which numbers at approximately 2.3 million. They fight in the typical European Fashion but have a very flexible chain of command. While Generals still make key decisions in battles,the lower ranked officers are expected to change the battle plan on the fly without The High Command ordering. This gives the Prussian army more flexibility on the battlefield then most nations that still used a centralized command structure.

The Prussian Uniform is the same design used in the RL Franco-Prussian War but in this timeline they didn't collide. The Prussian Infantry were issued Grewehr 98 rifles. The Infantry did make up the single most populace branch of the military. The army was also equipped with machine guns.

The Prussian Calvary was also a fundamental part of the Prussian Military. They were armed with sabers and laces for open battle but if need to dismount was needed they would use their Russian made 1895 Calvary Gun.

The Prussian Artillery Corps was also well equipped with mobile field guns as well as big artillery peices.

Army Weakness :The biggest weakness to the army is that its officers are very distant from their own soldiers. In the typical Prussian fashion the higher ranks are not to mingle with the common soldier.

Another weakness is a war of attrition,The Prussian Empire is incapable of sustaining long drawn out conflicts as it's access to trade and natural resources would dwindle if it ever got in a long drawn out conflict.

Naval Description : By the order of the Kaiser,Prussia has vastly extended its naval presence in the world as it aims to grab future colonies in Africa,and Asia as well as possible American colonies if the state their presents an opportunity.

The Prussian Navy is a very modern navy using coal and oil driven steel ships.

Military
8 Dreadnoughts
14 Battleships
20 Battlecruisers
50 Cruisers
85 Destroyers

Merchant Navy
450 Merchant Vessels ranging in various sizes. Non-combat vessels.
Naval Weakness :
With having a heavy contributions to armoring the ships with thick armor and huge naval guns the Prussian ships are often slower than most other nations but can withstand a good amount of punishment as well as returning it.
Further Military Description :voiding

[b]National Goals : Prussia's immediate goals are to expand further in the Baltic states as well as start gathering up overseas colonies so that it can better compete with its neighbor Saxony- Westphalian dominated Germany.

Long term the Prussians want to build a glorious overseas empire that rivals that of the many other great European nations.

National Issues : What stands in the way of this is the lost of prestige from the Saxony- Westphalians in the hegemony war of 1865. Having claiming they would unite the German speaking people under Prussian rule and failing, a huge blow was dealt to Prussia's pride and credibility.

National Figures of Interest :
Bruno Von Menke- Prussian General who commanded Prussian forces in the Hegemony war. He was responsible for both the defeat at Hamburg but as well as the successful defense of the Brandenburg Parameter. He is now currently Head of the Staff of the Army and proactively pushes for another war with Saxony-Westphalia as well as further expansion into Eastern Europe.

Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck- Leader of the Prussian Expeditionary Corps.An advocate of Prussian colonization of Africa. A pioneer in guerrilla style warfare.

Alfred von Kreutzwald- Prussian steel and railway tycoon. Lobbies the Prussian parliament for further expansion into the Baltic.

Grand Admiral Günter von Seitz-Head of the Grand Imperial Prussian Navy.

Viktor Fürstenberg-A Great Prussian Painter and Artist,famed for his portrait works of Prussian and other nobility as well as his paintings of landscapes.

National Ambition/Aspirations : voiding

History :
Most of Prussian history follows the same path it took until 1860 when King Frederick William IV who had survived his stroke from a few years ago and had a son in this timeline,proclaimed he had divine mission from God to unify the German States under him. Though the newly formed Saxony-Westphalians had also the same ambitions as he did.

Proclaiming himself Kasier on December 12,1859, Frederick would launched a war of unification of Germany ,later know as the German Hegemony War, on New Year's Day in 1865. He gave the task of subduing the the other German states to General Bruno von Menke who planned a Great War Plan that would conquer the German States in what he called the Menke Plan.

Bruno von Menke was given three army groups to invade the rest of Germany. Army Group Leitner under the Maximilian von Leitner was task with moving his army along the northern portion of Germany aiming to take cities like Rostock,Lübeck,and eventually Hamburg.

Army Group Kromer,under General Marvin von Kromer,was task with invasion of Saxony with the help of Army Group Oldenberg ,under General Joachim von Oldenberg,that was to break off after the capture of Magdeburg. Army Group Oldenburg would then proceeded to invade southern Westfalen and Hannover and where they would take cities such as Göttingen and Kassel.

After Army Group Kromer took Dresden and the rest of Saxony,they where to meet back up with Army Group Oldenberg at Kassel where the they would march towards Hannover to meet up with General Leitner's forces to take the rest of Hannover.

Then the three Army Groups would invade down though northern Westfalen and head towards Kōln. Where thy would use it as base to capture the rest of Westfalen.

After the Northern Kingdoms were subdued the Army groups would then replenish their men as well pressing the soldiers of the subdued Kingdoms into the Prussian Army. They would then subsequently invade Bavaria,Barden,and Wurttemberg.

On the 21 of January the Menke Plan ,as it was then know, was put into effect. Army Group Leitner was able to take its immediate objective of Rostock and routing a Hannover army on their way to Lübeck which surrendered as its garrison had fled south to Hamburg.

Army Groups Kromer and Oldenburg however were having trouble in Saxony as the Saxons had caught wind of the Prussian plan and put in heavy defenses at Magdeburg. Though the city finally was captured by March 21,the Menke time table had been severally set back with Saxony able to draw in more troops as well as Westfalen mobilizing its own armies to help Saxony and Hannover.

Bruno von Menke how ever ordered to continuation of the plan and Army Group Leitner marched on Hamburg while Oldenburg laid siege to Göttingen and Kromer Dresden. Leitner's forces how ever where shocked when they reached Hamburg on June 1st. Approximately 20 miles from the city they were meet by a unified Germnia Army consisting of Saxons,Westfalenians,and Hannovers all waving the same colors.

The resulting Battle of Hamburg was devastating to the numerically inferior Prussian forces as well as the Needle Guns that the Germanian forces carried at the battle. Army Group Leitner would retreat back to Lübeck where their token garrisons at Rostock and Keil were ordered to take Industrial equipment from the cities. This Event would be later known as the Prussian Theft.

With Army Group Leitner now in a full scale retreat,Oldenburg was now in a central bulge as their lines stretch far deep into enemy territory. Facing being surrounded by the United German Forces,Oldenburg abandoned his siege at Göttingen to fall back to Magdeburg to cover Kromer's flank from the approaching armies.

As the Germanian Forces attacked the occupied Cities of Rostock and Magdeburg,Kromer soon abandoned his siege of Dresden after 2 long months of successful victories against lone Saxon armies and the long siege at Dresden. Kromer quickly moved his army north where he helped drive back Germanian forces away from Magdeburg in a mid day assault on the besiegers. Yet further trouble in the north at Rostock would force the Prussians to fall back from Magdeburg as Leitner lost Rostock to the Germanians on the 1st of August.

The Prussian armies now became the defenders as the Germanian forces now attacked Brandenburg,creating the Brandenburg Parameter,a huge line of trenches and forts that dotted the country side to halt the Germanian Forces from getting further into Prussia.

Though on May 18,1866 on Armistice was finally signed between Prussia and Germanian and the subsequent Treaty of Berlin ended the German Hegemony War. The Prussian Kaiser had to abdicate to his 16 year old son,Frederick William IV,Prussian lands that were currently occupied by Germanian forces annexed,and Prussia had to pay reparations for The Prussian Theft.

Though in a weird way you can say that Prussia got what it wanted,after all this war was aimed to unify Germany and in a way it did as it unified against it.

The results of the war was lost of Prussian territory,the Creation of Prussian Constitution,the lost of approximately 100,000 Prussian men,stolen industrial equipment and dashes for a unfied Germany under Prussian rule.

After the Hegemony War,Prussia had to look somewhere else to gain resources to compete with the Unified Germany. Frederick the V now 19,after requests from Parliament,launched a campaign to conquer portions of West Poland and the Baltics in 1869. The Prussians won major victories at Gdańsk and Warsaw,resulting in Prussian domination of Northeastern Poland.

In 1875 Prussia would invade the Baltics and annexed much of the region that extended to Riga.

----more history is currently being made but the major parts have been put in.

RP Sample:

Turian 1&2 Scout Flotilla
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Captian Fernius looked at the strange looking Flotilla of ships that were attempting to active the relay that they were there to protect. "What do the scans indicate"he inquired to his deck officer who worked on a interface nearby."Signatures to match any known codes,and they are attempting to scan us as well but we are flooding it was junk data"he replied as he punched a few buttons as a pop up of the relay came on screen."Sir tampering with the relay as been detected"he said and brought up the image that showed the relay had been toyed with by the strange ships.

Captian Fernius looked at the strange ships before narrowing his eyes"Our orders stand,no one is allowed to tamper with the relays. Prepare a warning shot right across their haul and launch the fighters!"he said and the crew responded accordingly. The gunner started to warm up the main gun,the heat it exerted would easily be detected by any scanner while the two Escort carriers launch their two fighter squadrons that approached in two V formations.

"Hold your fire and attempt to hail the trespassers,if they fail to respond or attempt to move fire the warning shot"Fernius orders as he watched the situation unfold. His hands held behind his back as he watched the battle map that he stood above,watching his fighters slowly approach the friagtes size ships.

[spoiler=1st Turian Scout Flotilla]5 Frigates
1 Escort Carrier(Fighter)
1 Light Transport(Marines)

[spoiler=2nd Turian Scout Flotilla]5 Frigates
1 Escort Carrier(Fighter)
1 Light Transport(Marines)

Citedal||Turian Embassy|| Councilor Puter Natadros

Puter was finally finished with today's council sessions,the male Turian plopping down on his desk to rest his knees that have been keeping him in one place for hours. He grabbed a wine glass and poured a blue liquor like substance into it before sitting back and talking a sip from it"Haaa that's it!"he said before setting it back down on his desk. He then decided to see what his government was currently building this month.

[spoiler=Month 1]922+6.8

Palaven
1 Urban Area-110

Pheiros
1 Orbital Fuel Refinery-300
1 Orbital Mining Station-100

Digeris
3 Urban Areas-330
2 Planetary Fuel Depot-33
2 Industrial Complexes-33

1 Light Transport-22

3.8 remainder

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[Tracian Empire]

I'm not sure about the name..

What I can say is that Imperial Kingdom does not sound like a viable name, and that Kaiserreich is directly translated as an Empire.

Also, I have never read a German nation name like that. Prussia's official name was Königreich Preußen, which is translated into English as the Kingdom of Prussia, without the von. If you wish to be the Empire of Prussia, then that would be Kaiserreich Preußen.

But of course, native speakers like good old Exil can prove me wrong.

[Axis Asteroid]

Hmm... I'm kinda split right now tbh. I love France b/c of Napoleon. I would probably have him win Waterloo for my divergence.

On the other hand, I've recently read about the Black Sea Goths, so if Ukraine is still available, we can keep the current dynamic with a slight shift in geography. Though that depends if Ukraine is still available.

It depends. We can theoretically argue that Ukraine is presently claimed by Danceria, so it's up to him. It could be feasible to have a Polish-Lithuanian state in Poland, Ruthenia, and the Baltics, and a Gothic state in the Ukraine. In fact, that would be amazing, since in combination with Russia, it would bring a lot of dynamic to Eastern Europe.

A Napoleonic victory in France would be interesting, but it would be a little more difficult to explain.

I'm now leaning towards Gothic Ukraine. We'll have to wait for Danceria's input on the matter though.

If this pulls through, Exil won't have to worry about Gothic revanchism anymore lol.

[Kinistian]

I'm not sure about the name..

What I can say is that Imperial Kingdom does not sound like a viable name, and that Kaiserreich is directly translated as an Empire.

Also, I have never read a German nation name like that. Prussia's official name was Königreich Preußen, which is translated into English as the Kingdom of Prussia, without the von. If you wish to be the Empire of Prussia, then that would be Kaiserreich Preußen.

But of course, native speakers like good old Exil can prove me wrong.

So besides criticism for a name is it app alright?

[Tracian Empire]

Snip

Alrighty

• Besides from the naming issue mentioned above, you should fix your mistakes. The app has various mistakes of grammar or structure, or situations where words are missing from the sentence. We all make mistakes, no one is a master in English, but we should all try to make our apps as presentable as possible.
• There is a mistake in terms of territorial core there. You clearly own territory outside of the region from Ostpreussen to Riga, namely roughly the modern German states of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Brandenburg, plus an important part of Poland.
• No territorial claims? How? Does Prussia have no desires for expansion, no irredentist claims? Is the Prussian desire to take over the rest of Germany also gone? You mention that you wish to expand into the rest of the Baltics, that is a territorial claim.
• I'm not sure what to say about the population without checking it.. I know that Prussia, as a constituent state of the Second German Empire, had a population of 34,472,509 in 1910, and you only have a fraction of those territories. I'm not sure how that part of Poland and the Baltics would compensate for it, without properly checking Populstat, and I have no time for that, unfortunately. If anyone would be willing to help there, that would be amazing.
• How is Prussia ruled by a Kaiser(Emperor), when it is a Kingdom? This is tied to the naming issue from above, you have to make some order into your titles and naming conventions.
• The economy part of it is pretty chaotic..you should work on it a little. Also, I do believe that without ever owning Silesia, Prussia industry would probably slightly lag behind those of nations like Bohemia and Germany, although it can have a small but strong industry. Still, losing the 1865 War would have an effect that would take at least a decade to recover from.
• There is no Western European tech group, only European.
• In terms of the army, the numbers seem to be vaguely alright. 750000 gets over the 2% rule, but Prussia and Imperial Germany had a really good conscription system. The flexible chain of command is possible within the limits of real life examples like that of the Imperial German Army, but even that had a certain rigidity. You should also explain how exactly the Prussians came to favor that flexibility, in front of the traditional rigidity, Germany had its reasons. As for the weaknesses, the first is.. meh, you should elaborate on that, add some of the traditional Prussian arrogance, but the second one works and is a pretty big weakness.
• As for the navy..it seems somewhat large to me, considering the resources of the Prussians, and their ambitions. You have no Britain to kickstart a naval race. All you'd need your navy for is to fight against Saxony's, and perhaps against Scandinavia and even then, your strategy is most likely defensive. Your navy should be oriented towards the Baltic Sea alone.
  The Kaiserliche Marine was the second largest in the world, yours is supposed to be much smaller, so I would lower the numbers, especially in terms of dreadnoughts and pre-dreadnoughts. It's also notable that as of right now, there are no battlecruisers, this type of ship has not been invented yet.
• I dislike how you mention strengths in the naval weaknesses part, and the simply mentioning that your ships are slower than average is not a viable weakness.
• I'm also not sure how Prussia would be able to even dream of colonies. Your access to the world ocean is limited by Scandinavia, and you face enemies on the continent. Even with a Wilhelm like figure desperate to gain colonies, I don't think that a colonial empire would be your largest goal for now.
• Also, considering that you have only conquered that part of Poland and that part of the Baltics recently, ethnic tensions and a rebellious sentiment in those areas would be one of your major issues.

[Tracian Empire]

Im almost afraid to ask someone to critique mine now.

Well, I'm sorry if I my review of the Prussian app seemed threatening in any way..but we do have a certain standard. It's not a problem even if apps have mistakes, but we want to see some effort from the players, to see that they are willing to accept their mistakes if they exist, and and that they are willing to work on fixing them.

[Tracian Empire]

Full Nation Name : The United States of America
Majority/Official Culture : American
Territorial Core : Non-Confederate and Aztek part of North America, excluding Canada
Territorial Claim : Confederate States of America
Capital City : Philadelphia
Population : 39,868,340

Government Type : Federal Presidential Republic Under a Military Dictatorship
Government Ideology/Policies : Revaunchism, Anti-Confederatism, Anti-Communism
Government Focus : Reunification of the American States
Head of State : General Terrance Holt
Head of Government : Speaker of the House William Mckinley
Government Description : The government of the United States of America was originally a federal presidential republic with the President of the United States holding executive power with the Vice-President serves as the substitute for the President in the cases of the President's unavailability, otherwise holds little prestige. Each state elects representatives to Congress with the House of Representatives elected by individual districts and the Senate appointed by state legislatures with Congress represented by the Speaker of the House which is the one of the most powerful position in the nation. In practically, the government is under the leadership of the United States military ever since 1866.

Majority/State Religion : Christian majority, no official state religion
Religious Description : The United States Constitution stresses that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, ensuring that there will not be a state religion. The majority of the population is Christian with non-Christian minorities do having significant populations.

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism
Major Production : Coal mining, steel production, manufacturing, food, lumber
Economic Description : The United States is a wealthy nation and its vast size stretching from Maine to Washington allows for a diverse range of industries to flourish. The Midwestern United States provide itself as new industrial centers for manufacturing and mining while the states of the Ohio River Valley provides premium mining productions. Much of the Plains states and the Rockies are agricultural centers while states in New England and the Pacific Coast are centers of fishing and trade.

Tech Group : European

Army Description : The United States Army is one of the most advanced military in North America, owing from competition with the Confederates and industrialization. The creation of automatic weapons and mass production of weapons and ammunition created an army on demand. The United States Army is one of the largest in the continent with a standing army of 600,000 soldiers and field contemporary artillery, rifles, and squad support weapons, in addition to American inventions such as gatling guns and repeating carbines (used by their elite cavalry). The Army (like the Navy) also went with a meritocratic system and integrated whites and non-white members together, as quoted by an unnamed officer, "There is no one color that fights for the American way."
Army Weakness : The United States Army is primarily a conscription based military, one of the remaining legacy of the Reconstruction government in part due to paranoia against the Confederates. The National Guards, despite numbering in almost a million, is not as disciplined compared to the active force and with only putting down Native times American uprisings or student protests in recent, have little experience in combat and may even rout. Reserve officers are not much better, most being graduates with family connections to Congress or in state and local governments who use the easy opportunity of being an officer to climb social ladders, their ability to lead is doubted by many.
Naval Description : The United States Navy fields pre-dreadnought battleships and older ironclad warships in service. The United States Navy maintain fleets around the West and East Coast of US territories and maintains 13,000 Marines for their ships.
Naval Weakness : The Navy of the United States is considered to be just adequete and ordinary compared to the navies of their neighboring states. There are really nothing to write home about for the Navy.
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals : Reunification of the American states
National Issues : There are still opposition to the military regime that occupies the American government, some ranging from pro-Marxist or pro-Confederate to some being liberal groups. Despite the government's improvement to civil rights, there are still inequality for African-Americans
National Figures of Interest : General Terrance Holt, General Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas Edison, JP Morgan, General John J Pershing, Andrew Carnegie, Upton Sinclair, Calvin Coolidge, John Rockefeller, W.E.B. Du Bois, Clara Barton, Eugene V Debs, Susan B Anthony, Nikola Tesla
History :

Before the Civil War
The United States of America declared its independence in 1776 and after winning their independence in the 1780s, the experimentation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness succeeded as the United States survived the first few years of political turmoils. The United States was by no mean a power, they're still overshadowed by the Aztek Ascendancy in the west. Over the decades, the United States experienced industrial growth and territorial expansion to the midwestern states, bringing the Great Lakes and the Gulf Coasts into the Union. The early 19th century was the time of American expansion and development. It was considered as the renaissance of American culture. It did not last, though, with the issue of slavery on the rise. While slavery has always been a contentious issue stemming even during the Revolutionary War with the Continental Congress trying to prevent slaves from defecting to the Gaellics. Slavery continued to be a controversial topic with governmental legislatures trying to solve the issue by ignoring or banning the mention of slavery in public areas. Likewise, any attempts to silence the topic ended in failure with the rise of the Republican Party as a major anti-slavery party to reach mainstream audience.

The Lincoln Administration (1861 - 1865): Division and Civil War
The election of Abraham Lincoln into the Presidency caused states in the South to secede from the Union and establish their own country as the Confederate States of America, despite assurance from Lincoln that he would not take any radical courses to abolish slavery. Civil War broke out when the US base of Fort Sumter in Charleston, South Carolina was bombarded by Southern forces and the United States was prepared for war. Initially, popular thought was that the United States can easily squish a southern revolt. The United States had double the population of the so-called Confederacy along with having a much large industrial base. The war dashed any hope of a quick victory and the once claimed "insignificant rebellion" turned into a nightmare for the United States. Despite some Union victories, the northern population was weary of war and began to rally behind a former Union general George B. McClellan who promised an end to the war for the 1864 Presidential election. Lincoln's hope for a major Union victory by Grant or Sherman failed and McClellen narrowly won the Presidency along with Peace Democrats gaining seats in Congress, promising resolve with diplomacy rather than sending sons to war. Lincoln accepted his loss, regretting his failure to reunify the broken country. Before he left office, Lincoln did managed the pass the 14th Amendment and declared an executive order where any slave who fled from the south will be recognized as free men. During the Lincoln Administration, the states of Kansas and West Virginia joined the Union.

The McClellen Administration (1865 - 1869): Appeasement and Political Turmoil
In President McClellen's mind, the people wanted peace and peace shall be achieved. Peacetalks with the South initiated into which the United States recognizes the Confederate States of America as an independent nation and as part of concession, gave up Kentucky. The move was controversial as Kentucky was a border state that was part of the Union and the public reacted negatively. McClellen also moved the capital from D.C to Philadelphia, sighting problems with having the capital too close to the border of a potentially hostile nation. Republicans argue that it's the sign of McClellen showing appeasement against traitors while some Democrats claimed that it was a logical move that will protect the Union if the Confederates reignite the war. Nevertheless, there weren't any major political repurcussions in the relocation of the US capital. McClellen's decision to remove the remove the stars of the states that seceded were met with opposition. Ultimately, the removal of the stars were rejected but that wasn't the least of the McClellen's administration's worries. T

he Presidency of George McClellen was always in a form of a political turmoil, garnering opposition from conservative Republicans and Bourbon Democrats for being pro-appeasement towards the "southern traitors" and from Radical Republicans for not focusing on civil rights. His administration was described as the stewardship that legalized secessions with some states under Radical Republican control (largely in New England) are talking of leaving the Union. A New England Confederacy, however, didn't went into fruition when the United States Army launched a coup d'etat over Philadelphia and New England. Lead by General Ulysses S. Grant, William Tecumseh Sherman, and a host of other generals; the Northeastern United States were under military rule. Federal troops occupied governmental buildings and arrested key Copperhead and Radical Republican figures in Philadelphia and New England and tried them for treason under military court. McClellen was forced to accept the coup in Philadelphia and declared martial law to give legitimacy to Grant's action. The military action was well-received by the general public who saw them as providing order in Washington. McClellen held no power since 1867 and didn't stand for re-election in the 1868 election. Ulysses Grant resigned as Commanding General of the United States to run for President as the nominee of the Republican Party while the newly formed Liberal Republican party nominated Horace Greeley and Democratic remnants nominated Horatio Seymour. Grant's promise of national security and domestic development worked well with the voting populace and readily won the election. Durin the McClellen administration, the state of Nebraska joined the Union

The Grant Administration (1869 - 1876): Military Rule and early Civil Rights
The Grant Administration, despite still having a military presence in the capital, still kept Congress as a functioning legislative body to provide claims of keeping the American democratic tradition. It also helped that Grant was already popular with the voters and that much of the United States Congress was dominated by the Republican Party. Grant encouraged Congress to pass and enforce the Civil Rights Act of 1870 in which it affirms that all citizens are equally protected by the law. Despite opposition from some figures in the Democratic Party, it passed with a large margin due to Republican control in Congress (although, Grant keeping a garrison at Capitol Hill certainly helped), pleasing Radical Republicans and civil rights activists such as Frederick Douglass. Grant also established the Department of Reunification and allowed Southern politicians who opposed secession to continue to represent their states. However, there was still criticism levied at Grant for continuing martial law despite claiming of successful transitions into a civilian government, pointing that much of his cabinet are made up of military figures and that those who express pro-seccessionist views are regularly jailed. Issues also persisted in the Rockies where Mormon settlers aligned with native tribals to resist against American settlers, causing Grant to send a large military force by George Armstrong Custer to deal with the Mormon resistance to show that the United States is not weakened. The campaign was a success with Custer welcomed by the public as a war hero and Grant being heralded as a strong and succesful President in the sea of failures (Franklin Pierce for stopping the rise of slavery, Alexander Stephens for doing nothing against the secession crisis, Abraham Lincoln for failing to bring an end to the seccession, and George McClellen for being more concerned with appeasement than his fellow countrymen). Ulysses S. Grant ran unopposed for his second term and during his administration, welcomed the introduction of Colorado into the Union.

However, there were concerns from individuals regarding continual military rule over the government, especially in New York when Provisional Governor Philip Sheridan rounded up members of the New York Democratic Party under suspicions of pro-Confederate activities without any warrant or a civilian trial. Grant did not run for a third term and the Republican Party was split along those who support returning to civilian rule as intended and those who want to continue military rule. The fighting lead to the split in the Republican Party with the pro-military rule factions leaving the Republican Party and forming the Patriotic Party. The Republicans nominated James Blaine for President while the New American Party nominated George Custer. The remaining Democrats not arrested by the military nominated Samuel J Tilden. Disaffected Radical Republicans nominated Duncan Turtle for the Presidency and due to a three way Republican split, Tilden almost won the Presidency but none of the candidates won the necessary states in the Electoral College to win the election. The election was instead decided by the House of Representatives and with the military garrison still looming on Capitol Hill, the House elected Custer as the 19th President of the United States.

The Custer Administration (1877 - 1887): Conflict and Governmental Expansion
In contrast to the Grant administration where Grant still respected the power of Congress and ruled in accordance to the Constitution, Custer's administration was far more authoritarian in the name of national security. His first act as President was to grow the functions of the United States Secret Service into serving as a counterintelligence agency to deal with anti-American activities rather than just dealing with counterfeit and protecting VIPs. Under the Custer Administration, anyone deemed "Anti-American" were quickly arrested. Originally, only individuals with pro-Confederate leanings were arrested but soon union leaders, civil libertarians, even members of the Republican Party were arrested for seditions. By using the Secret Service as a political tool and adding more troops to control the states, Custer effectively neutered Congress to be nothing more than a chamber political yesmen to legitimize his dictatorship. Any Congressmen who expressed even mild opposition to Custer's emergency powers publicly were arrested and forced to resigned or even killed. He also forced Supreme Court justices to retire and stacked the court with military officials. Despite Custer's tyranny, he was credited for an economic boom that blessed the Republic and seeked expansion into the Oregon territory, promising economic opportunities in the Western territories of Washington, Jefferson, Montana, Idaho, Dakota, and Deseret (he intended on solving the Mormon question through them being drowned out by non-Mormon settlers but it failed). Custer also intended on seeking the Azteks as an ally against the Confederates. The United States and the Azteks had been on neutral terms since the creation of the United States. Now that a civil war had occured, Custer was determined to seek strong allies against the South.

In the 1880 presidential election, Custer ran on economic growth, stability, and diplomatic victories and defeated his opponents handily. Except for some failed assassination attempts on the President along with more Secret Service activities, there weren't a lot of major events that stood out from Custer's second term. In the 1884 Presidential election, Custer shocked the public by announcing a third run for Presidency, bringing opposition to his rule. Sensing an opportunity, Republicans and Bourbon Democrats formed the American Coalition and nominated New York Governor Grover Cleveland. The newly formed Labor Party made up of union leaders who were lucky enough to not be arrested by the Secret Service, nominated Alson Streeter. Despite that Cleveland won the popular vote, the electoral college went to Custer, drawing more protests from the public. However, none of the protests were large enough to plunge the country into chaos and Secret Service activities made sure that the protests never grew large enough. Individuals brave (or stupid) enough compared Custer to a king and likened him to King George the First. During his third term, the state of Dakota entered the Union. George Custer was assassinated in March 15th, 1887 by an unnamed soldier in the Philadelphia garrison. His death lead to a power vaccuum in Philadelphia which lead to army divisions lead by General Terrance Holt to seize the capital, defeating Custer's garrison force and arresting members of Custer's cabinet. Holt declared that the era of Custer's tyranny is over and promised political reforms.

National Council for Reform (1887 - )
General Terrance Holt set up the National Council for Reform, consisting of military officers, to provide a stabilization program that will bring democratic reforms back to the country. He returned the Supreme Court back into prestige and suspended the office of the Presidency, bringing more power to Congress while members of the Council serve as Heads of States. The Council alowed members of the Patriot Party to remain in office, knowing that the American Coalition would easily defeat them in elections. Under the Holt Administration, the nation began to return back to normalcy. The Patriot Party disbanded after electoral defeats and most individuals who were arrested under the Custer regime were pardoned and released due to them being largely political prisoners. The only thing different was that the Presidency was still suspended (which allowed the Council to stay in power without the need of elections). Under the Council, economic growth occured once again with the host of brilliant inventers and businessmen such as Thomas Edison, JP Morgan, Andrew Carnegie, and John Rockefeller innovating American industries. Liberalization of the government also brought new political parties into the table with the rise of the Progressive Party created by Upton Sinclair and Congressman William Jennings Bryan. Military alliances were formed with Korea and Japan due to their powers and peace finally came to Mormon settlers . The new states of Jefferson, Deseret, Washington, Rocky, Montana, Idaho, and Oregon entered the Union. It's a new century for the republic and although everything looks fine, things could change.

RP Sample:
- War, what is it good for? (Back to 1935)
- Rednecks and post-apocalyptic America (Fallout: Damn Dirty South)
- Red Dawn but slightly better (Crane Ascendent)
- Generic late 19th century Alt-history RP (Voice of a New Age)
- War, war never changes (Fallout: Republic of Dusts)

#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)

This looks alright to me. I can see no issues within the app, and it is extremely feasible for the US to have a good army at this point in time, due to the differences in the timeline. Accepted.

Of course though, as always, I'm not exactly familiar with the continental America as a region, so if there are any issues that I have missed, the other OP's can bring in their own criticism.

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Full Nation Name : The United States of America

#AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)

This looks alright to me. I can see no issues within the app, and it is extremely feasible for the US to have a good army at this point in time, due to the differences in the timeline. Accepted.

Of course though, as always, I'm not exactly familiar with the continental America as a region, so if there are any issues that I have missed, the other OP's can bring in their own criticism.

There is a contradiction in terms of the time frame of the Civil War. If I recall, Manti has the CSA secede around 1780, not the 1860s like in our timeline.

Inter and Manti should reconcile their histories.

[Tracian Empire]

This looks alright to me. I can see no issues within the app, and it is extremely feasible for the US to have a good army at this point in time, due to the differences in the timeline. Accepted.

Of course though, as always, I'm not exactly familiar with the continental America as a region, so if there are any issues that I have missed, the other OP's can bring in their own criticism.

There is a contradiction in terms of the time frame of the Civil War. If I recall, Manti has the CSA secede around 1780, not the 1860s like in our timeline.

Inter and Manti should reconcile their histories.

Manti should reconcile his history. Manti's history was built on the existence of the United Kingdom of America, and with Cymrea's departure from this roleplay, that is null and void. So, by all means, Manti should be the one to rewrite his history, since the UKA never existed.

But it would be kinda unfair to force Manti to rewrite most of his history, just as it would be unfair to bind the idea for an US of IMS to the existence of the UKA. So for the time being, both histories could exist as a paradox, even if, I personally recommend the players to discuss it and to reach a comprmise.

[Axis Asteroid]

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Alrighty

• I'm not sure what to say about the population without checking it.. I know that Prussia, as a constituent state of the Second German Empire, had a population of 34,472,509 in 1910, and you only have a fraction of those territories. I'm not sure how that part of Poland and the Baltics would compensate for it, without properly checking Populstat, and I have no time for that, unfortunately. If anyone would be willing to help there, that would be amazing.

I would like to refer to my previous pop check on the matter below. Prussia's pop without Silesia and the other areas controlled by Germania is around 10 million. I'm not sure how populated the Baltics or Poland are, but here you go.

I just checked.

East Prussia: 1,996,626 people
West Prussia: 1,563,658
Pommern: 1,684,125
Brandenburg: ~3.1 million
Posen: ~1.9 million

Around 10 million.
http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/ ... ermany.htm

[Tracian Empire]

Alrighty

• I'm not sure what to say about the population without checking it.. I know that Prussia, as a constituent state of the Second German Empire, had a population of 34,472,509 in 1910, and you only have a fraction of those territories. I'm not sure how that part of Poland and the Baltics would compensate for it, without properly checking Populstat, and I have no time for that, unfortunately. If anyone would be willing to help there, that would be amazing.

I would like to refer to my previous pop check on the matter below. Prussia's pop without Silesia is around 10 million. I'm not sure how populated the Baltics or Poland is, but here you go.

I just checked.

East Prussia: 1,996,626 people
West Prussia: 1,563,658
Pommern: 1,684,125
Brandenburg: ~3.1 million
Posen: ~1.9 million

Around 10 million.
http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/ ... ermany.htm

Yeah, then we do have a problem. Lithuania has a population of roughly around 2 million, and Latvia of roughly 1 million. I'm not sure what the population of that Polish area is, but it is extremely unlikely for it to be able to cover the gap between 13 million and 36 million on its own. It would be impossible, even with changes to the history of the region.