1900 : Alternative Divergence [AH][DEAD]

[Tracian Empire]

Most certainly, killing all those innocents was a mistake, but actions against the Latins in general had their justifications - the Latins were basically thieves. People can argue that the Byzantine Emperors had allowed them to gain their position and advantages, but it was still theft nonetheless, and they played a huge part in the eventual economical collapse of the Empire.

And that is true, which is why the Fourth Crusade is seen as the killing blow dealt to the Byzantines by the West, and it is one of the reasons for why, especially here in the Balkans, people tend to still blame the whole Ottoman conquest on the Catholics.

Interesting. I was not aware of that tidbit.

On that note, France and Britain sided with Eastern invaders over their Orthodox counterparts in the Crimean War.

True, but that wasn't that bad. Yeah, Russia is and was Orthodox, but it was trying to conquer the Balkans just like the Ottomans. The Russians have of course, a more modern approach, as they tried to bring the Orthodox nations of the Balkans under their influence. And the Balkan states have felt the knout of the Russian oppression.

So, the Western intervention in the Crimean War was actually good, as it allowed for the creation of Romania, and it stopped the Russians from piercing too deep in the Balkans.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I'm conflicted. I have character who is a bit ahead of his time, seeking a way to make infantry move faster so they can keep up with the cavalry and prevent the cavalry from getting murdered by infantry squares and machine guns. Unfortunately, given the restrictions of the time period, I can't conjure up a Mark IX APC. My current idea is using a modified steam locomotive to pull a coach that will carry an infantry platoon into battle. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure how that is going to work, since it will be long and narrow, meaning it will risk falling over.

You still have no particular reasons to put effort into anything resembling a tank. You can have officers thinking about it, but it's extremely unlikely for your nation to actually develop one until the need arises.

Infantry rocks anyways

[Tracian Empire]

You still have no particular reasons to put effort into anything resembling a tank. You can have officers thinking about it, but it's extremely unlikely for your nation to actually develop one until the need arises.

Infantry rocks anyways

Wait until you see my glorious flamethrowers

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Infantry rocks anyways

Wait until you see my glorious flamethrowers

Mah glorious armoured grenadiers!

[Tracian Empire]

Wait until you see my glorious flamethrowers

Mah glorious armoured grenadiers!

That armor won't help that much when they are burning alive..

[Remnants of Exilvania]

Mah glorious armoured grenadiers!

That armor won't help that much when they are burning alive..

I wonder wether they can throw their grenades further than these primitve flamethrowers can reach.
I somehow doubt it but well, grenades are fun so why not?

[Tracian Empire]

That armor won't help that much when they are burning alive..

I wonder wether they can throw their grenades further than these primitve flamethrowers can reach.
I somehow doubt it but well, grenades are fun so why not?

"Primitive"

Comrade, the Romans have been creating flamethrowers ever since the Middle Ages.

We're closer to actual working WW1 flamethrowers than to the primitive prototypes of the early 1900's.

[The Manticoran Empire]

I'm conflicted. I have character who is a bit ahead of his time, seeking a way to make infantry move faster so they can keep up with the cavalry and prevent the cavalry from getting murdered by infantry squares and machine guns. Unfortunately, given the restrictions of the time period, I can't conjure up a Mark IX APC. My current idea is using a modified steam locomotive to pull a coach that will carry an infantry platoon into battle. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure how that is going to work, since it will be long and narrow, meaning it will risk falling over.

You still have no particular reasons to put effort into anything resembling a tank. You can have officers thinking about it, but it's extremely unlikely for your nation to actually develop one until the need arises.

Strategically, my nation is entirely incapable of fighting an offensive war against its neighbors. I lack the manpower to do so and I lack the speed to be able to rapidly maneuver through their lines to important strategic targets. The entire purpose of this line of thought is to enable my smaller army to outmaneuver rather than outfight the Azteks or the US.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I wonder wether they can throw their grenades further than these primitve flamethrowers can reach.
I somehow doubt it but well, grenades are fun so why not?

"Primitive"

Comrade, the Romans have been creating flamethrowers ever since the Middle Ages.

We're closer to actual working WW1 flamethrowers than to the primitive prototypes of the early 1900's.

*saying that WW1 flamethrowers aren't primitive by modern standards*

[The Manticoran Empire]

I'm conflicted. I have character who is a bit ahead of his time, seeking a way to make infantry move faster so they can keep up with the cavalry and prevent the cavalry from getting murdered by infantry squares and machine guns. Unfortunately, given the restrictions of the time period, I can't conjure up a Mark IX APC. My current idea is using a modified steam locomotive to pull a coach that will carry an infantry platoon into battle. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure how that is going to work, since it will be long and narrow, meaning it will risk falling over.

How about just using a coach?
Like a completely and normal conventional coach with horses?

Horses are notoriously vulnerable to small arms fire and shrapnel.

[Tracian Empire]

"Primitive"

Comrade, the Romans have been creating flamethrowers ever since the Middle Ages.

We're closer to actual working WW1 flamethrowers than to the primitive prototypes of the early 1900's.

*saying that WW1 flamethrowers aren't primitive by modern standards*

By modern standards, probably.

By the standards of this world, the Romans are the absolute leaders in terms of flamethrower development.

I'll have to discuss it with the other OP's, but the only limits to the Roman development of flamethrowers is the general level of technology of the world, but it wouldn't be impossible for the Romans to even surpass the WW1 level of flamethrowers.

Nevertheless, it would be safe to assume that the Romans are using cheirosiphōn devices that can be carried and used by single, specialized soldiers.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

How about just using a coach?
Like a completely and normal conventional coach with horses?

Horses are notoriously vulnerable to small arms fire and shrapnel.

I thought this was about the rapid movement and deployment of infantry and heavy weapons to support cavalry and not about armoured assaults...

[Tracian Empire]

Horses are notoriously vulnerable to small arms fire and shrapnel.

I thought this was about the rapid movement and deployment of infantry and heavy weapons to support cavalry and not about armoured assaults...

We won't see armored assaults for a good while.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

*checks IC posts*

Yes, yes, I will definitely have to increase the length and quality of my posts for this RP.

[Axis Asteroid]

*checks IC posts*

Yes, yes, I will definitely have to increase the length and quality of my posts for this RP.

I have a basic outline of mine done, but I have yet to begin because of the length lol. The amount of writing required is intimidating at times.

[Tracian Empire]

I don't know.. I'll probably try to work on my initial idea, the interactions between some of the members of my Imperial Family, and I also have a flashback in mind..

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I don't know.. I'll probably try to work on my initial idea, the interactions between some of the members of my Imperial Family, and I also have a flashback in mind..

You can welcome the Transsylvanian Archduke.

[Tracian Empire]

I don't know.. I'll probably try to work on my initial idea, the interactions between some of the members of my Imperial Family, and I also have a flashback in mind..

You can welcome the Transsylvanian Archduke.

If you can write a post with him arriving in Constantinople first, sure.

I'll have a small duel with mock swords between Prince Constantine and Prince Michael, and then Constantine teaching Michael how to fire a rifle, then the Emperor returning to the Senate and talking with his brothers, while they remember the incident a year ago where the Emperor literally used the army to crack down on the organized crime in Constantinople.

[Axis Asteroid]

You can welcome the Transsylvanian Archduke.

If you can write a post with him arriving in Constantinople first, sure.

I'll have a small duel with mock swords between Prince Constantine and Prince Michael, and then Constantine teaching Michael how to fire a rifle, then the Emperor returning to the Senate and talking with his brothers, while they remember the incident a year ago where the Emperor literally used the army to crack down on the organized crime in Constantinople.

Varangian Guard taking names and cracking skulls.

[Old Tyrannia]

*checks IC posts*

Yes, yes, I will definitely have to increase the length and quality of my posts for this RP.

Don't stress out over the length of your posts. Whilst it's nice that this RP series has a tradition of high quality posting, it's not necessary for every post to be a book chapter. Most of my posts probably won't be as long as my first one.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

You can welcome the Transsylvanian Archduke.

If you can write a post with him arriving in Constantinople first, sure.

I'll have a small duel with mock swords between Prince Constantine and Prince Michael, and then Constantine teaching Michael how to fire a rifle, then the Emperor returning to the Senate and talking with his brothers, while they remember the incident a year ago where the Emperor literally used the army to crack down on the organized crime in Constantinople.

Darn, I wrote a post of him leaving Brasov but not yet about arriving in Constantinople...

[The Manticoran Empire]

Horses are notoriously vulnerable to small arms fire and shrapnel.

I thought this was about the rapid movement and deployment of infantry and heavy weapons to support cavalry and not about armoured assaults...

Well there is not going to be rapid deployment of infantry if they all get killed by enemy riflemen.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

I thought this was about the rapid movement and deployment of infantry and heavy weapons to support cavalry and not about armoured assaults...

Well there is not going to be rapid deployment of infantry if they all get killed by enemy riflemen.

Since when do you deploy infantry right on top of enemy infantry?
Like usually you'd have some faster horse scouts before you which would warn you once the find enemy forces, giving you time to dismount and set up your forces.

I mean, using an armoured coach drawn by a modified locomotive isn't going to do you any better. If you wait with dismounting untill you are right at the enemy, it's gonna be a slaughter the moment they leave the coach while staying inside the coach makes them a very attractive target to artillery or grenades.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Well there is not going to be rapid deployment of infantry if they all get killed by enemy riflemen.

Since when do you deploy infantry right on top of enemy infantry?
Like usually you'd have some faster horse scouts before you which would warn you once the find enemy forces, giving you time to dismount and set up your forces.

I mean, using an armoured coach drawn by a modified locomotive isn't going to do you any better. If you wait with dismounting untill you are right at the enemy, it's gonna be a slaughter the moment they leave the coach while staying inside the coach makes them a very attractive target to artillery or grenades.

Machine guns. This is a work in progress. I don't plan on invading anyone for at least 20 years.

[Lenyo]

I apologize for pulling out of this RP after submitting an app, but I don't think I'll realistically be able to keep up with the RP. Feel free to give French territory to another RPer. If someone wants to RP using the SFR app for whatever reason, that would also be fine. Sorry for the last-minute reversal.