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by The Manticoran Empire » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:15 am
by The V O I D » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:19 am
by Dunree » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:58 am
by Remnants of Exilvania » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:02 pm
by The Traansval » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:57 pm
by The Traansval » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:27 pm
by The Traansval » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:37 pm
by Oscalantine » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:43 pm
The V O I D wrote:Can I include Denmark in my new Scandinavia reservation pls? and maybe finland, too, if it wasn't already. Thank you!
The Manticoran Empire wrote:I noticed that Cymrea is not on the map. Is that pending his acceptance or something else?
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Nice map. But I never had a coast. In none of my apps. Italy claimed that part from what I remember.
The Traansval wrote:ffs, they locked the old thread so i can't copy paste the app
by The Manticoran Empire » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:04 pm
Oscalantine wrote:The Manticoran Empire wrote:I noticed that Cymrea is not on the map. Is that pending his acceptance or something else?
Only accepted nations and reserves from the OPs are part of the map atm. It isn't nearly as accurate as I wish it would be... but alas, not touching cartography even with a meter-long pole. Cy isn't accepted nation because he isn't coming back to me over restart, so I am stuck here... don't worry, you don't need to revise your history even if he doesn't come back.
by Oscalantine » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:17 pm
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Oscalantine wrote:
Only accepted nations and reserves from the OPs are part of the map atm. It isn't nearly as accurate as I wish it would be... but alas, not touching cartography even with a meter-long pole. Cy isn't accepted nation because he isn't coming back to me over restart, so I am stuck here... don't worry, you don't need to revise your history even if he doesn't come back.
I was mainly wondering, if he doesn't come back, can I add Virginia and Kentucky to my territory as a result of the Second Virginia War?
by Remnants of Exilvania » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:06 am
Oscalantine wrote:Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Nice map. But I never had a coast. In none of my apps. Italy claimed that part from what I remember.
I distinctively remember that there was a massive argument over OPs on whether you should be allowed the coast or not for fairness sake. Like... you need a coast to be a colonial power... but Venice would have historical rights... European this European that... I think that was the compromise that we had for ya XDDD
If you REALLY don't want it, let me know and I'll notify the board. I was also on the impression that you would want a coast but never had the chance to claim it due to border gore from Italy.
by Asgeirria » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:10 am
by The Manticoran Empire » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:22 am
Oscalantine wrote:The Manticoran Empire wrote:I was mainly wondering, if he doesn't come back, can I add Virginia and Kentucky to my territory as a result of the Second Virginia War?
Errr... I will take that up to the board. It makes perfect sense that you have those two, but just in case anyone has beef with this.
by Asgeirria » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:51 am
by Tracian Empire » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:57 am
by Asgeirria » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:25 am
Tracian Empire wrote:I'm still slightly confused as to why you would claim the Roman Empire.
But I will take a look at the app
by Tracian Empire » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:28 am
by Old Tyrannia » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:00 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Asgeirria wrote:
Butthurt mongolian failure? I figure i can claim whatever I want in my app, since it has no impact on IC in the near future.
Theoretically, you could claim whatever you'd want, but that section is meant for claims that could actually be used in the IC. Historical claims, blood claims, or simply realistic areas of expansion in which your state would have interests.
by Tracian Empire » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:27 pm
The Traansval wrote:(Image)
Full Nation Name: United Emirates of Arabia
Majority/Official Culture : Arab/Bedouin/Afro-Asian/African
Territorial Core :(Image)
Territorial Claim:(Image)
Capital City : Riyadh
Population: 5.2 Million
Government Type : Federal Republic, Bicameral Democracy
Government Ideology/Policies : The Government is mainly split between two Ideological Factions; the Reformists who wish to move the country towards more being a more Democratic and Modern Nation, and the Conservatives who wish to focus more on Islamic Tradition.
Government Focus : Currently, the Arabian government under Emir Faisal I is focused primarily on improving the Economy and Commerce of the nation.
Head of State: Rayiys Faisal I
Head of Government: Prime Minister Abdullah ibn Muhammad Al ash-Sheikh, Chairman of the Federal Council Thani bin Abdulla, Chairman of the National Council Al Haj bin Abdullah Al Muhairbi.
Government Description: The Head of State, the Rayiys, acts as the sole voice of Diplomacy for the nation, as well as commanding the Military and being a figure head for the nation. The Rayiys also instructs the Prime Minister, who then instructs the 22 Ministers of the 22 Ministries of the Government which take care of all Interior and Foreign Affairs, including foreign affairs, security and defence, nationality and immigration issues, education, public health, currency, postal, telephone and other communications services, labour relations, banking, delimitation of territorial waters, extradition of criminals and many more. The real power, however, lies in the Federal Council and the National Council, which act as the two Legislative Houses. The National Council, which consists of 10 Representatives elected from each of the 4 Emirates propose and vote on laws and amendments, with a Majority vote required for Laws and a 2/3s vote for Amendments to the constitution. The Federal Council, which is made up of 2 Representatives appointed by each of the 4 Emir's, act as an advisory council, and will review then vote on each law/amendment; if they find it satisfactory, they will approve it and it will then be done, if they don't find it satisfactory they will send it back to the National Council who then have to rewrite it, unless they vote on a 2/3s majority to overrule them. The Four Emirates act as the State Governments in the Federal System, with each one having a smaller Emirate Level version of the Federal Government. The Emirates have some small powers, mainly as the constitution states, "All powers not vested in the Federal Government are therefor the responsibility of the Emirate Governments". Ultimately, Federal Law trumps Emirate Law. The laws of the country, which we talked so much about, are enforced by The Federal Judiciary. It includes the Federal Supreme Court and Courts of First Instance. The Prime Minister appoints the five judges headed by a president to the Supreme Court. The judges are responsible for deciding if federal laws are constitutional and mediating between inter-emirate disputes. It also possesses the authority to try cases involving cabinet and senior federal officials. Although secular law is applied, the basis of legislation is Sharia (Islamic Law) and involves three of the four schools including (mainly) Maliki, but also the Hanbali and Shafi'i schools. The countries laws are also in turmoil between the Conservatives, who promote the Wahhabi Movement which seeks to "Enjoy Good, Forbid Wrong". The Wahhabi Movement is central to many of the more restrictive laws concerning Dress and Drink. Opposite them are the Reformist, who promote the Reform Movement, which seeks to promote Religious and Personal Freedoms.
Majority/State Religion : Majority Hanbali Sunni Islam, with smaller sects of Shafi'i Sunni Islam (Yemen), Ibadi Islam (Oman), Oriental Christianity (Somalia) and others.
Religious Description : Oh boy, please don't make me try to describe Islam.
Economic Ideologies: The primary leading Ideology in the Arab Economy is Islamic Economics along with Capitalist, Mercantilism and Protectionist influences.
Major Production: Oil, Dates, Spices, Coffee, Bananas, Sugar, minor Cotton and Mining Sectors (Note; most Agricultural Goods come from the Horn of Africa Territory)
Economic Description: Largely a weak economy based off trade with foreigners.
Tech Group : N/A
Army Description: 308,220 Total Servicemen; 50,760 Cavalry Men (Fursan), 33,160 Mounted Infantry (Akinji), 136,180 Infantrymen (Ghazi), 63,600 Territorial Troops, 2,760 Republican Guards, 21,600 Artillery men (Topçu).. High Mobility, Excellent Tactics and knowledge of the land are staples of the Arab Army.
Army Weakness: Poor Equipment, little unit cohesion, poor communications and low numbers. The Arab Army has no standard Uniform, no standard arms and no standard cartridge. The clothing worn by soldiers often is either their own Tribal Dress or their own clothes (Some servicemen with more wealthy families sometimes order their own stylized Uniforms from European Tailors), and their weapons can often range from Cutting Edge European Rifles (Usually purchased by those more Wealthy Servicemen) to the much more common Jezail Flintlock and Single Shot Black powder rifles (Martini Henri's, French Gras Rifles, etc.). Also, the primary route of communication between unit is still a Runner or Carrier Pigeon, with Telephones and Telegraphs being non-existent.
Naval Description: 18,520 Sailors; 5 Light Armored Cruisers, 8 Protected Crusiers, 5 Monitors, 12 Destroyers, 2 Coastal Defense Ship, 32 Patrol Gunboats, 45 Torpedo Boats and 80 Transport ships. 600 Men serving in the Maritime Infantry, serving as garrisons aboard the ship. The men of the Arab navy are of the highest caliber, the officers were hand picked by Shah Pasha and those officers trained and drilled the men to a fine point. The ships of the Arabian Navy are most effective in the coastal regions around the Peninsula and horn of Africa, and are designed to be fast and nimble.
Naval Weakness: The Arabian Navy, like the Army, suffers from the lack of Industrialization and standarization of the Arab Military. Most uniforms are designed by the ships commander and issued to his men, with some not even bothering and just let the men wear whatever. Most ships carry a stockpile of Remington Rolling Blocks as their main rifles for sailors, and the ships supplies of Shells aren't always as much as they should be. The ships of the Arab Navy were built to be fast and nimble, but this comes at a trade off for Armor and Firepower, which Arab ships lack in comparison to their European counterparts.Nejd Class Monitors
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Type: Monitor
Displacement: 3,990 long tons (4,050 t)
Length:
262 ft (80 m) oa
259 ft (79 m) lwl
Beam: 55 ft 6 in (16.92 m)
Draft: 14 ft 6 in (4.42 m)
Installed power:
4 × single-ended steam boilers
1,426 ihp (1,063 kW) (produced on trials)
Propulsion:
2 × Triple expansion (Monadnock)
2 × Compound (Others)
Speed: 12 kn (22 km/h; 14 mph)
Range: 1,370 nmi (2,540 km; 1,580 mi) at 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph)
Complement: 19 officers and 164 enlisted
Armament:
4 × 10 in (250 mm)/30 caliber guns
4 × 6-pounder 57 mm (2.2 in) guns
2 × 3-pounder guns
Various smaller Machine Guns
Armor:
Iron armor
Belt: 7 in (180 mm)
Deck: 1.75 in (44 mm)
Turrets: 11.5 in (290 mm)
Al Riyadh class
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Type: Coastal defense ship
Displacement: 4,971 long tons (5,051 t)
Length: 87.3 m (286 ft 5 in)
Beam: 15.85 m (52 ft 0 in)
Draught: 5.9 m (19 ft 4 in)
Propulsion:
2 shaft vertical triple expansion steam engines
4-8 cylindrical coal-fired boilers
4,290 kW (5,750 ihp)
450 tons coal
Speed: 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph)
Complement: 404
Armament:
4 × 254 mm (10 in) guns
4 × 120 mm (4.7 in) guns
6 × 47 mm (2 in) 3-pounder guns
10 × 37 mm (1.5 in) 1-pounder guns
4 × 381 mm (15 in) above water torpedo tubes
Armour:
Iron armour
Belt: 254 mm (10 in)
Decks: 76 mm (3 in)
Turrets: 203 mm (8 in)
Conning tower: 203 mm (8 in)
Al-Madinah Class
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Type: Protected cruiser
Displacement: 5,600 long tons (5,690 t)
Length: 350 ft (106.7 m) (p/p, 372 ft (113.4 m) (o/a)
Beam: 54 ft (16.5 m)
Draught: 21 ft 6 in (6.6 m)
Installed power:
10,000 ihp (7,460 kW)
18 × Belleville boilers
Propulsion:
2 × shafts
2 × Vertical triple-expansion steam engines
Speed: 20 knots (37 km/h; 23 mph)
Complement: 450
Armament:
11 × single QF 6-inch (152.4 mm) guns
9 × single QF 12-pounder 12 cwt (3-inch, 76.2 mm) guns[Note 1]
6 × single 3-pounder (47 mm) quick firing guns
2 × single 18 inch (450 mm) torpedo tubes
Armour:
Deck: 3 in (76 mm)
Gun shields: 3 in (76 mm)
Conning tower: 6 in (152 mm)
Badr Class
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Type: Light Armored Crusiers
Displacement:
Normal: 2,643 to 2,706 t (2,601 to 2,663 long tons)
Full load: 2,963 to 3,180 t (2,916 to 3,130 long tons; 3,266 to 3,505 short tons)
Length: 105 m (344 ft 6 in)
Beam: 12.20 to 12.40 m (40 ft 0 in to 40 ft 8 in)
Draft: 4.11 to 5.38 m (13 ft 6 in to 17 ft 8 in)
Propulsion: 2 shafts, 2 triple expansion engines, 6,000 ihp (4,500 kW)
Speed: 19.5 knots (36.1 km/h; 22.4 mph)
Range: 3,560 to 4,400 nmi (6,590 to 8,150 km; 4,100 to 5,060 mi)
Complement:
14 officers
243–256 enlisted men
Armament:
10 × 10.5 cm SK L/40 guns
2 × 45 cm (17.7 in) torpedo tubes
Armor: Deck: 25 mm (0.98 in)
Al Sadiq class
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Type: torpedo boat destroyer
Displacement:
344 long tons (350 t) normal
393 long tons (399 t) deep load
Length: 210 ft 3 1⁄2 in (64.10 m)
Beam: 21 ft (6.40 m)
Draught: 9 ft 9 in (2.97 m)
Propulsion: Parsons turbines, 10,600 ihp (7,904 kW)
Speed: 33.8 knots (63 km/h; 39 mph)
Complement: 68
Armament:
1 × 12 pounder gun
5 × 6 pounder guns
2 × torpedo tubes
Mecca Class
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Type: gunboat
Displacement:
977 t (962 long tons) (designed)
1,193 t (1,174 long tons) (maximum)
Length:
66.9 m (219 ft 6 in) o/a
64.1 m (210 ft 4 in) w/l
Beam: 9.7 m (31 ft 10 in)
Draught: 3.3 m (10 ft 10 in)
Propulsion:
4 × Thornycroft-Schulz steam boilers[1]
2 × 3-cylinder Triple-expansion steam engines (1344 psi)
2 × 3-blade 2.4 m (7 ft 10 in) propellers
fuel supply 240-283 tons of coal
Speed: 13.5 knots (25.0 km/h; 15.5 mph)
Range: 3,400 nmi (6,300 km; 3,900 mi) at 9 knots (17 km/h; 10 mph)
Complement: 130
Armament:
2 × 10.5 cm (4 in) L/40 SK guns (range 12,200 m, 482 rounds)
6 × 3.7 cm (1.5 in) cannons
Muscat Class
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Type: Torpedo boat
Displacement: 975 tonnes (960 long tons)
Length: 84.65 m (277 ft 9 in)
Beam: 8.33 m (27 ft 4 in)
Draught: 3.40 m (11 ft 2 in)
Complement: 87
Armament:
3 × 8.8 cm (3.46 in) L/45 guns
6 × 50 cm (20 in) torpedo tubes
8 × torpedoes
National Goals: Improve the Economy and Arabian Industry.
National Issues: Tensions between Shia, Sunni and other sects of Islam within the Republic.
National Figures of Interest: The Prophet Mohammed (Lazy answer, i know.)
National Ambition/Aspirations: Uniting all of Islam under the Arabian Nation.
History: The land that today is called Arabia is an ancient and storied land. Its people having gone through different ethnicity, religions and governments. In the beginning, all there was were the Tribes. Roaming bands of Nomads who did what they could to survive in the harsh climate that is the Arab Desert. Years passed, technologies advanced, new nations of old came and went from the lands of Arabia. Bronze Age nations, then the Greeks and Persians tried to tame the mighty desert beast. The Romans didn't even try to foray into the desert, content to simply rule the coast.
The first true Arab nation was establish in 632 CE. The teachings of Islam had swept through the Peninsula and had, for the first time, united the Arabian Peoples. The Arab Nation, known as the Rashidun Caliphate, began to expand. Their borders reaching as far north as Baghdad, as far west as Tripoli and as far south as Mogadishu. But this empire was not to last. The Romans, whose collapse had allowed Arabia to expand, had managed to survive in their Eastern Territory. The Romans formed a Devils pact with the only other power in the region, the Persians, and together they defeated the Rashidun Armies on the fields of Arabia and crushed the nation. The Caliphate collapsed, and Roman rule was re-established in the Middle East.
After the Collapse of the Caliphate, many went back to their Nomadic Ways, while smaller City State and Nations cropped up along the coastal regions. Known now as the Dark Age of Arabia, the prosperity of Rashidun Rule was replaced with Warlords. The Arabian Arts and Sciences swiftly died while those in Europe began to flourish. Arabian society began to decompose back to the old ways, and the Culture itself began to wilt.
The first nation to leave the Dark Age was Oman. Historically a powerful position, Oman was one of the major trade nations in the Indian Gulf, and as such was able to recover much faster than the other Arab nations. Under the Nabhani dynasty, Oman began to grow wealthy off trade and this excess of Wealth was put back into those Arts which had previously lied dormant; The Arts, Literature, and the Sciences. The Omanies possessed a powerful navy, and used it to enforce their trade hegemony in the Persian Gulf.
By 1824, the Arabian Peninsula was under one of four nation; Nejd, Oman, Yemen, and Hejaz. Nejd was the largest in terms of land and also had the most ports on the Persian Gulf, while Oman still was the Wealthies, Yemen had the largest population while Hejaz held the Religious capital of Islam, Mecca. Border skirmishes were often and varied, and sometimes war would even break out between the Arabs as they tried to take the others resources. Change came in 1825, when Rome Attacked.
The Emirate of Nejd held the province of Kuwait, a small area that had one of the busiest ports on the Persian Gulf. It was often the last stop for most traders before they went back home, and as such grew quite wealthy off trade. Kuwait was the price jewel of the Nejd Emirate, and the Romans wanted it. In 1825, a Roman Army crossed the border and occupied Kuwait. Nejd quickly raised its conscript army, and marched off only to be soundly defeated by the superior Romans. The war dragged on for months until the Nejd Emirate finally conceded defeat under the pressure of a Roman Offensive and Blockade.
The war, while only taking a small province, suddenly alerted the Arab nations to the Roman threat on their border. Suddenly, each Emir and Sultan suddenly realized that at any moment, a Roman army could come and invade them at. The only thing securing Arab independence, was Roman Apathy, and that scared the Arab Rulers.
All Four of the Arab Leaders met in Mecca, and after two months of discussion they came to the agreement to form a Federation. Each ruler would retain partial sovereignty while also giving up powers to a larger Federal Government. The local Rulers, now all called Emirs, formed the Federal Council which would elect one of their for a 10 year term as Rayiys, and also each appointing 5 Representatives to form a Legislative Branch. The Capital, it was decided, to be Riyadh due to its central location on the Peninsula. And so, at that council in 1825, the United Emirates of Arabia was born.
In 1840, the administration of Raysis Ahmed Abdullah pushed for further reforms to bring Arabia closer to Democracy. The chief reforms being those of making the Local Emir an Elected Position, and having the National Council be made up of 10 Elected Representatives from each Emir, and the Federal Council being changed to a Second Legislative body of 2 Officials appointed by each Emir that acted much like the English House of Lords. The Rayiys wasn't changed much, aside from there being National Elections for Rayiys Candidates that would ultimately be chosen by a 2/3 vote in the Federal Council. These reforms were celebrated by Abdullah's Reform Party, but those of the Conservative Party were furious at this affront to Tradition. The Emir of Yemen even raised some of his people into an Army to march on Riyadh, but a traitor among his Generals helped the National Army defeat him. After that, the Reforms weren't challenged openly, as Abdullah grew paranoid and began to crack down on Dissidents.
Over the years, the many Rayiys expanded Arabian Power. Rayiys Ali Bin Hussein, in 1853, even expanded the nations territory down to the Horn of Africa, which had been a historical province of the Rashidun Caliphate. It was established as a Autonomous Territory, with its own version of an Emirate Government (But no voice in the Federal Government). He also put in place certain orders for the construction of a naval fleet, but these would eventually be carried out by his successor in 1861 when the Arabian Navy was established and its ships ordered from both the Muscat Drydocks and foreign companies. More Rayiys would be elected, each enacting his own Reforms, in Education, Industry, Commerce, and many others. Each imprinting his vision on the country.
Its been years now since the formation and reforms, and the same issues plague the Arabian Nation. The Reformists and Conservatives still battle, undoing and redoing each others works, but its the 20th century now and a new Rayiys has just been elected and he's a champion of the Reformists. So maybe the future of Arabia will change, for there is hope in the minds and hearts of every Arab, and Faisal won't let them down.
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by The V O I D » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:40 pm
by The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:44 pm
by Asgeirria » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:45 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:Theoretically, you could claim whatever you'd want, but that section is meant for claims that could actually be used in the IC. Historical claims, blood claims, or simply realistic areas of expansion in which your state would have interests.
Yes, the claims section is to signal to other players where your nation's interests and likely territorial ambitions lie. Just claiming a whole continent for the hell of it is unhelpful at best and, at worst, a good way to turn every other player in the vicinity against you from the start.
by Remnants of Exilvania » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:53 pm
Asgeirria wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:Yes, the claims section is to signal to other players where your nation's interests and likely territorial ambitions lie. Just claiming a whole continent for the hell of it is unhelpful at best and, at worst, a good way to turn every other player in the vicinity against you from the start.
Yeah but that'd be meta, and RP-ers don't ever meta, right?
In all seriousness though, I feel it's good to have some unrealistic ambitions to work towards in an RP, just so you don't burn out after allying or conquering your immediate neighbors. And I suppose that'd turn some people against me, but who could say no to a face like this with deals like mine?
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