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The Free Territory of Makhnovia
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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:24 pm

Jiyon wrote:
Plzen wrote:Probably the same way it did IRL around this era. Capturing radio signals and decrypting it.

Alternately, sending an operative in to physically manipulate an enemy computer for the purposes of espionage/deception, which is the more setting-appropriate thing to do. :)


Radio signals. If radio can control planes in this era, decrypting them wouldn't be so difficult.


Yep, that was my idea too. Cool! :) :) :)

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Postby The Cyberiad Council » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:51 pm

(If I overstep any bounds, just let me know and I'll change the app)

Name: Nathaniel (Nate) Magnusson
Age: 39
Sex: Male
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Personal Belongings: Owns a few acres of land in Arizona which is where his workshop is located. He owns a small R&D workshop where works with a handful of employees to design and build his inventions. He owns an electric gauntlet of his own design: capable of firing an electric discharge like an electric gun. (WIP for more personal items)
Personality: He is a very dynamic person. Driven and energetic, he throws himself completely into his work. He generally has a very focused countenance, not exactly friendly, but not hostile by any means. He is a great friend to those who last past his maverick exterior. He is pragmatic in his methodology and his business dealings.
Bio: He was born in 1891 was and raised by two loving, lower-middle class parents in the Piedmont region of North Carolina. He wasn't particularly bright in school, he struggled in history and English, and was sufficient in math. In his spare time, he apprenticed his father and uncle in their mechanics shop. They mainly repaired locomotive parts but also did some clock repair and the very rare automobile. He didn't attend any higher education institution, instead, he started working in the family business full time. By then, they had expanded to service more cars and the quickly growing array of airship engines and various Tesla technologies. At 23, he was drafted along with his father into the World war. He survived the conflict unscathed, but he was the only one of the Magnusson's that came back. He returned to North Carolina and worked a few years longer with his Uncle who was too old for the draft. He came back from the war changed, less optimistic than the young man that went to fight. Nate didn't want America to every fall behind in the arms race, to be caught unawares. He started designing, building, and selling some of his own inventions. He had some mild success, and eventually, he decided to pack up shop and move his little venture to Arizona. He started building larger projects and hired a crew of 4 to help him. Some his projects started attracting the attention of some wealthier investors...
Strengths: Very Mechanically gifted, and quite intelligent. He is a very independent person and is not one to easily back down. Out of determination, he has taught himself the science and math behind Tesla's work and now uses that knowledge to build his own inventions. He is a good peoples person and is well liked by his friends.
Weaknesses: He is intelligent, but he does not have the cutthroat nature required to be a good business man. He has accidentally let some his work be stolen without any means of recovering it. Sometimes he is too stubborn and headstrong, and he doesn't let grudges fade.
*Quirks: Plays darts when he's bored or thinking. He has a fine wooden desk in his warehouse/garage where he tries to handle paperwork. Doesn't drink often. He has a small metal cross that he wears around his neck that he fidgets with when he's nervous, anxious, or afraid.
*Likes: Black coffee, folk and blue grass music. He loves machines and technology.
*Dislikes: The heat of Arizona, guns, and reading.
*Worst Fears: That he will die without making an impact in the world.

Also: would it be alright if I had him being backed by J.P. Morgan Jr.?
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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:55 pm

The Cyberiad Council wrote:(If I overstep any bounds, just let me know and I'll change the app)

Name: Nathaniel (Nate) Magnusson
Age: 39
Sex: Male
Appearance(Picture or Description):
Personal Belongings: Owns a few acres of land in Arizona which is where his workshop is located. He owns a small R&D workshop where works with a handful of employees to design and build his inventions. He owns an electric gauntlet of his own design: capable of firing an electric discharge like an electric door. (WIP for more personal items)
Personality: He is a very dynamic person. Driven and energetic, he throws himself completely into his work. He generally has a very focused countenance, not exactly friendly, but not hostile by any means. He is a great friend to those who last past his maverick exterior. He is pragmatic in his methodology and his business dealings.
Bio: He was born in 1891 was and raised by two loving, lower-middle class parents in the Piedmont region of North Carolina. He wasn't particularly bright in school, he struggled in history and English, and was sufficient in math. In his spare time, he apprenticed his father and uncle in their mechanics shop. They mainly repaired locomotive parts but also did some clock repair and the very rare automobile. He didn't attend any higher education institution, instead, he started working in the family business full time. By then, they had expanded to service more cars and the quickly growing array of airship engines and various Tesla technologies. At 23, he was drafted along with his father into the World war. He survived the conflict unscathed, but he was the only one of the Magnusson's that came back. He returned to North Carolina and worked a few years longer with his Uncle who was too old for the draft. He came back from the war changed, less optimistic than the young man that went to fight. Nate didn't want America to every fall behind in the arms race, to be caught unawares. He started designing, building, and selling some of his own inventions. He had some mild success, and eventually, he decided to pack up shop and move his little venture to Arizona. He started building larger projects and hired a crew of 4 to help him. Some his projects started attracting the attention of some wealthier investors...
Strengths: Very Mechanically gifted, and quite intelligent. He is a very independent person and is not one to easily back down. Out of determination, he has taught himself the science and math behind Tesla's work and now uses that knowledge to build his own inventions. He is a good peoples person and is well liked by his friends.
Weaknesses: He is intelligent, but he does not have the cutthroat nature required to be a good business man. He has accidentally let some his work be stolen without any means of recovering it. Sometimes he is too stubborn and headstrong, and he doesn't let grudges fade.
*Quirks: Plays darts when he's bored or thinking. He has a fine wooden desk in his warehouse/garage where he tries to handle paperwork. Doesn't drink often. He has a small metal cross that he wears around his neck that he fidgets with when he's nervous, anxious, or afraid.
*Likes: Black coffee, folk and blue grass music. He loves machines and technology.
*Dislikes: The heat of Arizona, guns, and reading.
*Worst Fears: That he will die without making an impact in the world.

Also: would it be alright if I had him being backed by J.P. Morgan Jr.?


Accepted.Backing by Morgan too.

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Postby The Cyberiad Council » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:58 pm

The Free Territory of Makhnovia wrote:
The Cyberiad Council wrote:(If I overstep any bounds, just let me know and I'll change the app)

Name: Nathaniel (Nate) Magnusson
Age: 39
Sex: Male
Appearance(Picture or Description):
Personal Belongings: Owns a few acres of land in Arizona which is where his workshop is located. He owns a small R&D workshop where works with a handful of employees to design and build his inventions. He owns an electric gauntlet of his own design: capable of firing an electric discharge like an electric door. (WIP for more personal items)
Personality: He is a very dynamic person. Driven and energetic, he throws himself completely into his work. He generally has a very focused countenance, not exactly friendly, but not hostile by any means. He is a great friend to those who last past his maverick exterior. He is pragmatic in his methodology and his business dealings.
Bio: He was born in 1891 was and raised by two loving, lower-middle class parents in the Piedmont region of North Carolina. He wasn't particularly bright in school, he struggled in history and English, and was sufficient in math. In his spare time, he apprenticed his father and uncle in their mechanics shop. They mainly repaired locomotive parts but also did some clock repair and the very rare automobile. He didn't attend any higher education institution, instead, he started working in the family business full time. By then, they had expanded to service more cars and the quickly growing array of airship engines and various Tesla technologies. At 23, he was drafted along with his father into the World war. He survived the conflict unscathed, but he was the only one of the Magnusson's that came back. He returned to North Carolina and worked a few years longer with his Uncle who was too old for the draft. He came back from the war changed, less optimistic than the young man that went to fight. Nate didn't want America to every fall behind in the arms race, to be caught unawares. He started designing, building, and selling some of his own inventions. He had some mild success, and eventually, he decided to pack up shop and move his little venture to Arizona. He started building larger projects and hired a crew of 4 to help him. Some his projects started attracting the attention of some wealthier investors...
Strengths: Very Mechanically gifted, and quite intelligent. He is a very independent person and is not one to easily back down. Out of determination, he has taught himself the science and math behind Tesla's work and now uses that knowledge to build his own inventions. He is a good peoples person and is well liked by his friends.
Weaknesses: He is intelligent, but he does not have the cutthroat nature required to be a good business man. He has accidentally let some his work be stolen without any means of recovering it. Sometimes he is too stubborn and headstrong, and he doesn't let grudges fade.
*Quirks: Plays darts when he's bored or thinking. He has a fine wooden desk in his warehouse/garage where he tries to handle paperwork. Doesn't drink often. He has a small metal cross that he wears around his neck that he fidgets with when he's nervous, anxious, or afraid.
*Likes: Black coffee, folk and blue grass music. He loves machines and technology.
*Dislikes: The heat of Arizona, guns, and reading.
*Worst Fears: That he will die without making an impact in the world.

Also: would it be alright if I had him being backed by J.P. Morgan Jr.?

Accepted.Backing by Morgan too.


So, the general plot is that there is an arms race going on between the major powers?

If that's the case, would it be alright if I introduced the idea that he is working on mechanical armor? It doesn't have to be used, just an idea that maybe some of the nations catch wind of when Morgan tries to sell them the tech?

Thanks for the approval btw.
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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:07 pm

The Cyberiad Council wrote:
The Free Territory of Makhnovia wrote:

Accepted.Backing by Morgan too.


So, the general plot is that there is an arms race going on between the major powers?

If that's the case, would it be alright if I introduced the idea that he is working on mechanical armor? It doesn't have to be used, just an idea that maybe some of the nations catch wind of when Morgan tries to sell them the tech?

Thanks for the approval btw.


Yep, also some Scandinavian thieves stole some superweapon from Shangai. Your idea is fine.

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Postby Hothnia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:10 pm

I shalln't wish to be a bother but I would like to point out that Einstein would still be in Germany at this point, not the US.

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Postby Ulls » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:13 pm

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Postby Arctica-Aleutia » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 pm

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Postby Plzen » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:34 pm

Ulls wrote:-snip-

One word: economics.

An African native nation that has repeatedly fought wars for most of its history, earned the ire of the Great Powers of the world, and has undergone a devastating civil war to boot can somehow afford a large and modernised military... how?

Japan's population is 5 times yours, and they had a smaller navy and a more obsolete army 37 years after they started their modernisation than you claim you do.

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Postby Kistan » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:53 pm

NS Nation Name: Kistan

Nation Name: Republic of China

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The fall of the Qing Dynasty was inevitable, and China's enemies capitalized on that fact. The Japanese still took land from China, and the Communists still violently split from other republican factions, leading to the rise of a military dictatorship. The Chinese Civil War, however, was brutal and short -- Chiang Kai-Shek evaded capture on one fateful night thanks to a lone scout, and no reprieve was given to the Communists. Their Long March was far earlier and far longer, ending in Manchuria under the relative safety of Soviet eyes. They would not be much of a threat to any other power for at least a decade after their utter defeat.

The Republic of China used their new strategic freedom to systematically massacre the bandit-kings and warlords of inland China. While other nations theorized and practiced, the ROC Central Army assimilated smaller factions and modernized its tactics through years of bloody, victorious experience. Meanwhile, the Republic's Resource Commission and other companies busied themselves moving factories, building railways, and creating the start of an industrial heartland away from the immediate reach of the Japanese. The Republic finally stopped being a de-facto junta in 1926, with Chiang being appointed 'Supreme General of the Republic'. Despite retaining significant power, the Generalissimo permitted actual elections and civil reforms without the threat of far-left power plays to fuel paranoia in the increasingly free and modern nation.

Overall, the Republic of China is less authoritarian, stronger, and more efficient than it was in OTL. However, it has yet to embrace the technology of the post-war era, and remains a mostly peasant nation much like the real ROC. It still cannot expect to defeat the Japanese alone in a second war, but has had a far easier time maintaining power and modernizing than the real China ever did.

Government Form: Republic (aspects of martial law in effect)

Army Size: 0.3 million active service, 1.7 million reservists/local units -- primarily militias and outdated forces around a core of 210,000 'real' soldiers

Army Description: The Chinese army is low-tech (in that it lacks many of the radical inventions of Tesla and co.) and largely comprised of local, ex-warlord militias, but has two critical differences from OTL. First, a series of ruthless purges and internal wars after the Sino-Japanese War wiped out many of Chiang Kai-Shek's rivals inland, as well as rooting out a good portion of the older, less competent, and more corrupt officer cadre. Second, civil reforms have massively reduced corruption and solidified the ROC's legitimacy in the minds of its own citizens. While still considered a second-rate military, this has made Chinese units far less likely to desert and boosted morale significantly. The core of the army, roughly two hundred thousand battle-hardened loyalists, are a match for any first-rate force and actually have access to some heavy artillery and armored vehicles.

Navy Size: The ROC practically abandoned its naval ambitions after losing many of its main ports to the Japanese Empire. Still, they maintain a half-dozen light cruisers and eight destroyers of pre-Great War make for use against smugglers and to maintain some semblance of naval training.

Air Force: The Central Air Fleet actually receives quite a bit of attention, as the ROC absolutely does not want a rerun of the last war's bombing of civilian centers. It operates some hundred and forty interceptors and three rigid-skeleton airships -- two older ones bought from Germany after the Great War, and one of native manufacture boasting the best technology available to the Republic.

Territory of country: Most of modern, OTL China minus the Tibetan Plateau, Manchuria (under communist rule), and the areas occupied by Japan. And minus the disputed parts of the Kashmir, I suppose. I'd like to chat with Democratic East-Asia about the status of Mongolia and Tanu Tuuva, though.
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Postby Plzen » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:03 pm

Kistan wrote:-snip-

Very interesting! :) Nice to see an application for China. You'll be right in there with the thick of things. The OP signed off, though, so you'll have to wait a few hours for your acceptance.

Do be aware that the "areas under Japanese occupation" represents some of the most industrialised areas of China at the time, so your industry is likely suffering badly still.
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Postby Ulls » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:09 pm

Plzen wrote:
Ulls wrote:-snip-

One word: economics.

An African native nation that has repeatedly fought wars for most of its history, earned the ire of the Great Powers of the world, and has undergone a devastating civil war to boot can somehow afford a large and modernised military... how?

Japan's population is 5 times yours, and they had a smaller navy and a more obsolete army 37 years after they started their modernisation than you claim you do.

Going to drop the claim since I can't come up with anything. Will try a mafia-style app then.

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Postby Kistan » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:15 pm

Plzen wrote:
Kistan wrote:-snip-

Very interesting! :) Nice to see an application for China. You'll be right in there with the thick of things. The OP signed off, though, so you'll have to wait a few hours for your acceptance.

Do be aware that the "areas under Japanese occupation" represents some of the most industrialised areas of China at the time, so your industry is likely suffering badly still.

Oh, trust me. I know how bad the industrial situation was for the Chinese. Hopefully, with a more loyal military, I can avoid resorting to simply going the historic route of 'conscripts with rocks'. Even keeping an up-to-date air force with all the aeronautics advances in the future will be out of the question, unfortunately.
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Postby Plzen » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:19 pm

Kistan wrote:Oh, trust me. I know how bad the industrial situation was for the Chinese. Hopefully, with a more loyal military, I can avoid resorting to simply going the historic route of 'conscripts with rocks'. Keeping a modern air force with probably be out of the question, unfortunately.

Securing a foreign ally would be absolutely critical for you, then, probably. Especially considering that Japan, your primary antagonist, is very much the rising star of Asia.

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Postby Kistan » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:39 pm

Plzen wrote:
Kistan wrote:Oh, trust me. I know how bad the industrial situation was for the Chinese. Hopefully, with a more loyal military, I can avoid resorting to simply going the historic route of 'conscripts with rocks'. Keeping a modern air force with probably be out of the question, unfortunately.

Securing a foreign ally would be absolutely critical for you, then, probably. Especially considering that Japan, your primary antagonist, is very much the rising star of Asia.


Well, the Chinese historically tried to play both the USSR and USA. I'm considering the USA as a full ally or perhaps a closer relationship with Britain, depending on who decides to prioritize the East. After basing the success of the ROC on soundly routing communist revolutionaries, I don't think the Soviets would be inclined to help much. I don't think I want to bet too much on a Sino-German Cooperation Pact in this scenario, which sucks considering it made a critical difference for the Chinese. The Dutch and French are pretty much the only other nearby options, and neither is exactly... gifted in this period.
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Postby Ulls » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:45 pm

Player Name:Ulls
Organization name: The Consortium
Flag : A casino chip with a ruby-colored center
Leader/s: Mr.Fawkes
Ideology: shadowy empire, criminal enterprise, manipulation of world powers
Goals: Conquer the world by using criminal and underhand tactics and the use of Tesla Technology
Number of members: suspected 4,000 members worldwide
Economic strength: Somewhat wealthy
Military strength: They mostly use agents and gangsters, yet they have been upping their military arsenal with small merc groups. They have access to lighting guns and small arms but no big military hardware.

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Postby Plzen » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:49 pm

Kistan wrote:Well, the Chinese historically tried to play both the USSR and USA. I'm considering the USA as a full ally or perhaps a closer relationship with Britain, depending on who decides to prioritize the East.

I think you might find easy partners in both. A stronger Japan in East Asia, which exists in this RP, directly threatens the interests of both the US and the UK. They're possibly the two western powers with the largest stake in the Asia-Pacific Region.

Kistan wrote:After basing the success of the ROC on soundly routing communist revolutionaries, I don't think the Soviets would be inclined to help much.

With much of Europe in varying degrees of suspicious or threatened by the Soviet Union, I really don't think China will be a big priority for them even if the CCP was kept in the united front.

Kistan wrote:I don't think I want to bet too much on a Sino-German Cooperation Pact in this scenario, which sucks considering it made a critical difference for the Chinese.

Considering that Germany is broken and reeling after the Great War, betting too much on Sino-German co-operation might be a loser's game. Britain and the US certainly look like the best available options to you.

Ulls wrote:Player Name:Ulls
Organization name: The Consortium

This might actually be legitimately interesting. One more party with its hands stuck in Shanghai? :)

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Postby Ulls » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:57 pm

Plzen wrote:
Ulls wrote:Player Name:Ulls
Organization name: The Consortium

This might actually be legitimately interesting. One more party with its hands stuck in Shanghai? :)

That will be a thing, to get control over the city is one major step to taking over China and the world.

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Postby Plzen » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:01 am

Ulls wrote:That will be a thing, to get control over the city is one major step to taking over China and the world.

It will be interesting to see how that goes for you, considering how Japan surrounds the International Settlement now. Once Tokyo feels that SMC can't keep order in the Shanghai International Settlement anymore and Britain/US lose their influence in the city, they might take a risk and just move a brigade down there and put an end to the International Settlement.

After all, that's basically what happened IRL in 1941.
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Postby Kistan » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:13 am

Plzen wrote:
Ulls wrote:That will be a thing, to get control over the city is one major step to taking over China and the world.

It will be interesting to see how that goes for you, considering how Japan surrounds the International Settlement now. Once Tokyo feels that SMC can't keep order in the Shanghai International Settlement anymore and Britain/US lose their influence in the city, they might take a risk and just move a brigade down there and put an end to the International Settlement.

After all, that's basically what happened IRL in 1941.

I'd be surprised if the SIS lasts a day after the Second Sino-Japanese War begins. I get the feeling it'll be a lot more clear-cut than the years of undeclared, low-level fighting around Beijing, but Japan will still want to have a few incidents of its own to justify war or blame on the ROC -- like, say, 'Chinese rebels' hiding in the Settlement. On the other hand, I may do the same in Manchuria. Actually, on that note, I should probably have the civil government be based in Chongqing. I'm thinking the military administration will be closer to the front, in Jingsha or Wuhan.

I take it the Consortium would have a great deal of Yakuza involvement, as well as ties to a few disgruntled Chinese industrialists cut out of the market by anti-corruption campaigns?
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Postby Plzen » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:16 am

Kistan wrote:-snip-

I mean, the SIS is very much a British interest, not a Chinese one. Even in a general Japanese invasion of China, Japan would have to leave the Settlement alone. Unless Britain is occupied elsewhere (as was true in 1941) or Japan is actually looking for a fight with Britain/US (as was also true in 1941), what happens or doesn't happen between China and Japan can't seriously threaten the independence of the SMC in the International Settlement.

Of course, this doesn't exclude peaceful means. Japan would certainly want to push their influence with the SMC as far as they plausibly can. Considering how they surround the International Settlement, that's a tremendous amount of indirect influence.

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Postby Ulls » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:19 am

Kistan wrote:
Plzen wrote:It will be interesting to see how that goes for you, considering how Japan surrounds the International Settlement now. Once Tokyo feels that SMC can't keep order in the Shanghai International Settlement anymore and Britain/US lose their influence in the city, they might take a risk and just move a brigade down there and put an end to the International Settlement.

After all, that's basically what happened IRL in 1941.

I'd be surprised if the SIS lasts a day after the Second Sino-Japanese War begins. I get the feeling it'll be a lot more clear-cut than the years of undeclared, low-level fighting around Beijing, but Japan will still want to have a few incidents of its own to justify war or blame on the ROC -- like, say, 'Chinese rebels' hiding in the Settlement. On the other hand, I may do the same in Manchuria. Actually, on that note, I should probably have the civil government be based in Chongqing. I'm thinking the military administration will be closer to the front, in Jingsha or Wuhan.

I take it the Consortium would have a great deal of Yakuza involvement, as well as ties to a few disgruntled Chinese industrialists cut out of the market by anti-corruption campaigns?

Yes they will, though trying to take control of the SMC will be the first big move the Consortium has done and so they are just stepping into the scene.

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Postby Plzen » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:32 am

Ulls wrote:Yes they will, though trying to take control of the SMC will be the first big move the Consortium has done and so they are just stepping into the scene.

I look forwards to seeing how you pull this off. I suppose Shanghai is in for a long series of assassinations and a strong rise in corruption. Sven and Johanna are in for an interesting time. Do you intend to seat Consortium members on the SMC, or will you simply be lurking in the background as puppet masters pulling the strings?



I didn't really have anything to respond to, so instead I wrote an internal politics post. A few people should find it interesting... I hope.

It's worse than my earlier IC posts, but then again I kind of shot myself in the foot there by making a better-than-average first post. :p There's no way in hell I can follow that up without making everyone disappointed.
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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:09 am

Kistan wrote:NS Nation Name: Kistan

Nation Name: Republic of China

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The fall of the Qing Dynasty was inevitable, and China's enemies capitalized on that fact. The Japanese still took land from China, and the Communists still violently split from other republican factions, leading to the rise of a military dictatorship. The Chinese Civil War, however, was brutal and short -- Chiang Kai-Shek evaded capture on one fateful night thanks to a lone scout, and no reprieve was given to the Communists. Their Long March was far earlier and far longer, ending in Manchuria under the relative safety of Soviet eyes. They would not be much of a threat to any other power for at least a decade after their utter defeat.

The Republic of China used their new strategic freedom to systematically massacre the bandit-kings and warlords of inland China. While other nations theorized and practiced, the ROC Central Army assimilated smaller factions and modernized its tactics through years of bloody, victorious experience. Meanwhile, the Republic's Resource Commission and other companies busied themselves moving factories, building railways, and creating the start of an industrial heartland away from the immediate reach of the Japanese. The Republic finally stopped being a de-facto junta in 1926, with Chiang being appointed 'Supreme General of the Republic'. Despite retaining significant power, the Generalissimo permitted actual elections and civil reforms without the threat of far-left power plays to fuel paranoia in the increasingly free and modern nation.

Overall, the Republic of China is less authoritarian, stronger, and more efficient than it was in OTL. However, it has yet to embrace the technology of the post-war era, and remains a mostly peasant nation much like the real ROC. It still cannot expect to defeat the Japanese alone in a second war, but has had a far easier time maintaining power and modernizing than the real China ever did.

Government Form: Republic (aspects of martial law in effect)

Army Size: 0.3 million active service, 1.7 million reservists/local units -- primarily militias and outdated forces around a core of 210,000 'real' soldiers

Army Description: The Chinese army is low-tech (in that it lacks many of the radical inventions of Tesla and co.) and largely comprised of local, ex-warlord militias, but has two critical differences from OTL. First, a series of ruthless purges and internal wars after the Sino-Japanese War wiped out many of Chiang Kai-Shek's rivals inland, as well as rooting out a good portion of the older, less competent, and more corrupt officer cadre. Second, civil reforms have massively reduced corruption and solidified the ROC's legitimacy in the minds of its own citizens. While still considered a second-rate military, this has made Chinese units far less likely to desert and boosted morale significantly. The core of the army, roughly two hundred thousand battle-hardened loyalists, are a match for any first-rate force and actually have access to some heavy artillery and armored vehicles.

Navy Size: The ROC practically abandoned its naval ambitions after losing many of its main ports to the Japanese Empire. Still, they maintain a half-dozen light cruisers and eight destroyers of pre-Great War make for use against smugglers and to maintain some semblance of naval training.

Air Force: The Central Air Fleet actually receives quite a bit of attention, as the ROC absolutely does not want a rerun of the last war's bombing of civilian centers. It operates some hundred and forty interceptors and three rigid-skeleton airships -- two older ones bought from Germany after the Great War, and one of native manufacture boasting the best technology available to the Republic.

Territory of country: Most of modern, OTL China minus the Tibetan Plateau, Manchuria (under communist rule), and the areas occupied by Japan. And minus the disputed parts of the Kashmir, I suppose. I'd like to chat with Democratic East-Asia about the status of Mongolia and Tanu Tuuva, though.


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Postby The Free Territory of Makhnovia » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:12 am

Ulls wrote:Player Name:Ulls
Organization name: The Consortium
Flag : A casino chip with a ruby-colored center
Leader/s: Mr.Fawkes
Ideology: shadowy empire, criminal enterprise, manipulation of world powers
Goals: Conquer the world by using criminal and underhand tactics and the use of Tesla Technology
Number of members: suspected 4,000 members worldwide
Economic strength: Somewhat wealthy
Military strength: They mostly use agents and gangsters, yet they have been upping their military arsenal with small merc groups. They have access to lighting guns and small arms but no big military hardware.


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