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Posted: **Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:55 am**

For reference, Quendi, you've got 12K currently mobilised at Oldtown plus 50 galleys as well, or at least that's what I had down on the ORBAT.

Posted: **Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:47 am**

Of the Quendi wrote:House Name: House Hightower of the Hightower.
Culture: Reachmen.
Leader: Leyton Hightower, Lord of the Hightower, Voice of Oldtown, Lord of the Port, Defender of the Citadel, and Beacon of the South.
Lands: The Hightower, Oldtown and most of the southwestern parts of the Reach.
Sovereign:(If any) House Tyrell of Highgarden.
Coat of Arms: Cendrée, a tower argent, beacon inflamed gules.
Armed Forces: 20,000 (10,000 for House Hightower, 2,000 each for their five banner men, houses; Beesbury, Bulwer, Costayne, Cuy, Mullendore) most not mobilized.
Other Notable Things:
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If you could apply for the Lord of Hightower as well, that'd be excellent.

Posted: **Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:41 am**

Lunas Legion wrote:For reference, Quendi, you've got 12K currently mobilised at Oldtown plus 50 galleys as well, or at least that's what I had down on the ORBAT.

Where did you find those numbers?

Liecthenbourg wrote:If you could apply for the Lord of Hightower as well, that'd be excellent.

Character Name: Leyton Hightower.
Titles: (If any) Lord of the Hightower, Voice of Oldtown, Lord of the Port, Defender of the Citadel, and Beacon of the South.
Culture: (Westerlander, Northerner, etc) Reachman.
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Appearance: Lord Leyton is an old man of poor health. His hair and beard are silvery white and he is tall, dignified and handsome too look upon.
Allegiance: House Hightower
Profession: Nobleman
Religion: Faith of the Seven
Other Notable Things:
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Posted: **Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:43 am**

Of the Quendi wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:For reference, Quendi, you've got 12K currently mobilised at Oldtown plus 50 galleys as well, or at least that's what I had down on the ORBAT.

Where did you find those numbers?
Liecthenbourg wrote:If you could apply for the Lord of Hightower as well, that'd be excellent.

Character Name: Leyton Hightower.
Titles: (If any) Lord of the Hightower, Voice of Oldtown, Lord of the Port, Defender of the Citadel, and Beacon of the South.
Culture: (Westerlander, Northerner, etc) Reachman.
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Appearance: Lord Leyton is an old man of poor health. His hair and beard are silvery white and he is tall, dignified and handsome too look upon.
Allegiance: House Hightower
Profession: Nobleman
Religion: Faith of the Seven
Other Notable Things:
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Consider this and your application accepted.

Posted: **Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:59 pm**

Of the Quendi wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:For reference, Quendi, you've got 12K currently mobilised at Oldtown plus 50 galleys as well, or at least that's what I had down on the ORBAT.

Where did you find those numbers?

Levy numbers are an estimate based on the only source for Hightower levy numbers, from the Dance of the Dragons which places them at 'several thousand', but given that the Hightowers supported both the Greens/Blacks, likely having 'several thousand' men on each side puts them at around 12,000. The fleet estimate is based off the Battle of Fair Isle, which presumably saw the Iron Fleet (100 longships) and the greater part of the Greyjoy fleet (~375 longships) facing off against the Redwyne fleet (200 galleys), the Royal Fleet (~95 Galleys as of Blackwater, likely around a similar number during Fair Isle) which puts the total at 475 longships vs 295 galleys. Based on that the Hightower contribution is significant enough to be mentioned by itself, yet small enough so that the Hightowers aren't reckoned as a major naval power, and that Robert's fleet wouldn't have committed to battle unless they were fairly confident of victory, and equally that the Greyjoys likely wouldn't have committed either for the same reason and that the fleet isn't large enough to even attempt facing Euron's fleet by itself as it never does so, a Hightower fleet of roughly 50 ships seems to be reasonable.

Posted: **Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:46 pm**

I want to know how Quendi got 20,000. It's stated that they have more than 9K but 20,000 is 20% of the Reach's forces which seems more high than usual. I think around 10-14K makes more sense.

Posted: **Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:12 am**

Lunas Legion wrote:Levy numbers are an estimate based on the only source for Hightower levy numbers, from the Dance of the Dragons which places them at 'several thousand', but given that the Hightowers supported both the Greens/Blacks, likely having 'several thousand' men on each side puts them at around 12,000. The fleet estimate is based off the Battle of Fair Isle, which presumably saw the Iron Fleet (100 longships) and the greater part of the Greyjoy fleet (~375 longships) facing off against the Redwyne fleet (200 galleys), the Royal Fleet (~95 Galleys as of Blackwater, likely around a similar number during Fair Isle) which puts the total at 475 longships vs 295 galleys. Based on that the Hightower contribution is significant enough to be mentioned by itself, yet small enough so that the Hightowers aren't reckoned as a major naval power, and that Robert's fleet wouldn't have committed to battle unless they were fairly confident of victory, and equally that the Greyjoys likely wouldn't have committed either for the same reason and that the fleet isn't large enough to even attempt facing Euron's fleet by itself as it never does so, a Hightower fleet of roughly 50 ships seems to be reasonable.

I have no objection to the navy size, its about what I imagined.

Regarding the size of the levy I might however find a force of 12,000 too modest, at least if we are talking about the total absolute max levy count and not just what is mobilized at the beginning of the RP.

Based on the fact that Oldtown is presumably only slightly smaller than King's Landing, a city of a half million people, it alone should be able to mobilize five thousand men. I assume that House Hightower can call about the same from all its lands outside the city.

Then there are their banner men. They have five lordly houses sworn to them. Putting them at two thousand each doesn't seem outrageous to me.

The Valyria Empire wrote:I want to know how Quendi got 20,000. It's stated that they have more than 9K but 20,000 is 20% of the Reach's forces which seems more high than usual. I think around 10-14K makes more sense.

I don't know where it is stated that they have no more than 9,000 but based on the locations of the five Hightower banner men it seems House Hightower might very well control about 15-20 % of the Reach area including the chief city of the Reach, and quite possibly some of the best farmland in Westeros so 20 % does not seem problematic to me.

Posted: **Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:21 am**

Yeah, the Reach isn't fully mobilised.

Posted: **Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:38 am**

Lunas Legion wrote:Yeah, the Reach isn't fully mobilised.

Well if the twelve thousand represent only the mobilized parts of the Hightower force then we have no argument. Honestly I would have assumed that less than that would be mobilized at the start of this RP.

Posted: **Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:58 pm**

Hmm, I'm busy trying to figure out the composition of my Freeriders and came upon a rather odd question to which I'm not able to find an easy answer. In Essos the main trade is slaves, especially around slavers bay. But in all honesty, where exactly do they get all those slaves from? I understand some come from raiding, others from the Dothraki etc. But there are just so many and I can't stop wondering where they get those slaves from and how many they roughly get from each place. How many would be Westerosi, Freefolk, Dothraki, People from the far east of Essos and how many are people of their own kin?
Is there anyone here who knows something about this or can make a well educated guess on it?

Posted: **Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:48 pm**

Work in Progress

House Name: House Frey of the Crossing
Culture: Rivermen
Leader: Walder Frey
Lands: The Twins and subsequent surrounding lands
Sovereign: Petyr Baelish as Lord Paramount and Tommen Baratheon as King on the Iron Throne
Coat of Arms:

Armed Forces: 6,460 (3,760 at The Twins, 2,200 at Riverrun, 500 at Darry)
Other Notable Things:
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House Name: House Frey of Riverun
Culture: Rivermen
Leader: Emmon Frey
Lands: (de jure) Riverrun and the surrounding lands (de facto) Nothing
Sovereign:(If any) Petyr Baelish as Lord Paramount and Tommen Baratheon as King on the Iron Throne
Coat of Arms:

Armed Forces: N/A
Other Notable Things:
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Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:42 am**

Lord of The Rings wrote:Hmm, I'm busy trying to figure out the composition of my Freeriders and came upon a rather odd question to which I'm not able to find an easy answer. In Essos the main trade is slaves, especially around slavers bay. But in all honesty, where exactly do they get all those slaves from? I understand some come from raiding, others from the Dothraki etc. But there are just so many and I can't stop wondering where they get those slaves from and how many they roughly get from each place. How many would be Westerosi, Freefolk, Dothraki, People from the far east of Essos and how many are people of their own kin?
Is there anyone here who knows something about this or can make a well educated guess on it?

The only indication of what I can think of is the known extent of Tyroshi slaving; the Tyroshi are said to even slave beyond the wall - looking for Free Folk to enslave. We don't usually hear of slaves being taken from Westeros' shores, but I imagine it might happen on ships and such. Generally its the Iron Born who we hear having taken Westerosi. I'd imagine it'll largely be a toss up between migratory people like the Dothraki taking from internal Essos, or from the farther east, or maybe even from northern Sothyros.

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:40 am**

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Lord of The Rings wrote:Hmm, I'm busy trying to figure out the composition of my Freeriders and came upon a rather odd question to which I'm not able to find an easy answer. In Essos the main trade is slaves, especially around slavers bay. But in all honesty, where exactly do they get all those slaves from? I understand some come from raiding, others from the Dothraki etc. But there are just so many and I can't stop wondering where they get those slaves from and how many they roughly get from each place. How many would be Westerosi, Freefolk, Dothraki, People from the far east of Essos and how many are people of their own kin?
Is there anyone here who knows something about this or can make a well educated guess on it?

The only indication of what I can think of is the known extent of Tyroshi slaving; the Tyroshi are said to even slave beyond the wall - looking for Free Folk to enslave. We don't usually hear of slaves being taken from Westeros' shores, but I imagine it might happen on ships and such. Generally its the Iron Born who we hear having taken Westerosi. I'd imagine it'll largely be a toss up between migratory people like the Dothraki taking from internal Essos, or from the farther east, or maybe even from northern Sothyros.

Alright, thanks. I'll try to figure something out then regarding the composition of my Freeriders

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:28 am**

What/Who is being reserved: Jon Snow
Time stamp: ~8:30 am EST
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I looked back and saw a reservation that took place almost a week ago. Couldn't find an app, so I'll reserve and work on an app.

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:36 am**

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Liecthenbourg wrote:We also have Beric Dondarrion to draw comparisons from.

Well, Beric died... a lot, thus he changed a lot more. Stoneheart (as far as we know) as only died the one time. I feel like her and Jon would be closer in comparison. Or perhaps we could follow a theory that Jon's "essence" or whatever might be in Ghost while something else might be warging Jon's body.

In relation to this, I believe the explaination given for the differences in Lady Stoneheart vs Beric Dondarrion style ressurection is time after death. Beric typically is revived almost immediately thus he loses less of himself each time. Lady Stoneheart was found in the river, possibly days later. She has lost most of her personality because of this and clutches to Robb's crown and her hatred of the Freys.

Jon, depending on how long he was dead for, would retain much of his former self or he would lose most of it and become almost hellbent on one objective in his mind. I'll look into how long it has been using the old IC and we will go from there for personality.

Edit: According to the Jon player from the last RP, Jon learns of his lineage on his own following his death through his abilities as a Warg. I'll reflect that in the House portion of the app.

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:36 am**

Nuxipal wrote:What/Who is being reserved: Jon Snow
Time stamp: ~8:30 am EST
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I looked back and saw a reservation that took place almost a week ago. Couldn't find an app, so I'll reserve and work on an app.

Aye, I believe this is more than fair.

Thanks for your research and commentary on resurrection, by the by.

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:05 am**

House Name: Stark
Culture: Northman
Leader:De Facto - Rickon Stark (missing) De Jure - Brandon Stark (Presumed Dead) Acting - Jon Snow (post-Ressurection)
Lands: The North
Sovereign: De Facto: King Stannis Baratheon, De Jure:
Coat of Arms:

Armed Forces: 7602 (based on ORBAT) all from Vassal Houses
Other Notable Things: Family is dispersed with Jon at Castle Black being revived. Rickon on Skagos with Osha and Shaggydog. Brandon beyond the wall with the Three Eyed Crow.
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Character Name: Jon Snow
Titles: 998th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch (Formerly/Presently)
Culture: Northman
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Appearance:

Allegiance: The Nights Watch (Formerly/Presently), House Stark (Formerly/Presently)
Profession: Lord Commander of the Night's Watch (Most Recently), Steward of the Night's Watch (Formerly)
Religion: The Old Gods of the Forest
Other Notable Things: Given the Valyrian Steel Sword, Longclaw, by Jeor Mormont. Is bonded to an albino Direwolf named Ghost.
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Character Name: Rickon Stark
Titles: Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North (claimant)
Culture: Northman
Age: 5
Gender: Male
Appearance:

Allegiance: House Stark
Profession: Lord in training of House Stark
Religion: The Old Gods
Other Notable Things: Presently on the Island of Skagos in the care of House Magnar with his Direwolf Shaggydog and Osha, a wilding who aided his escape from Winterfell. For this character I'll be RPing out some Skagossons and Osha in addition to the musings of a five year old in this strange place.
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Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:40 am**

Nuxipal wrote:
House Name: Stark
Culture: Northman
Leader:De Facto - Rickon Stark (missing) De Jure - Brandon Stark (Presumed Dead) Acting - Jon Snow (post-Ressurection)
Lands: The North
Sovereign: De Facto: King Stannis Baratheon, De Jure:
Coat of Arms:
(Image)

Armed Forces: 7602 (based on ORBAT) all from Vassal Houses
Other Notable Things: Family is dispersed with Jon at Castle Black being revived. Rickon on Skagos with Osha and Shaggydog. Brandon beyond the wall with the Three Eyed Crow.
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Character Name: Jon Snow
Titles: 998th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch (Formerly/Presently)
Culture: Northman
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Appearance:
(Image)

Allegiance: The Nights Watch (Formerly/Presently), House Stark (Formerly/Presently)
Profession: Lord Commander of the Night's Watch (Most Recently), Steward of the Night's Watch (Formerly)
Religion: The Old Gods of the Forest
Other Notable Things: Given the Valyrian Steel Sword, Longclaw, by Jeor Mormont. Is bonded to an albino Direwolf named Ghost.
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Character Name: Rickon Stark
Titles: Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North (claimant)
Culture: Northman
Age: 5
Gender: Male
Appearance:
(Image)

Allegiance: House Stark
Profession: Lord in training of House Stark
Religion: The Old Gods
Other Notable Things: Presently on the Island of Skagos in the care of House Magnar with his Direwolf Shaggydog and Osha, a wilding who aided his escape from Winterfell. For this character I'll be RPing out some Skagossons and Osha in addition to the musings of a five year old in this strange place.
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Consider it accepted.

At least I'll be able to RP Davos well, now!

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:59 am**

Liecthenbourg wrote:
Nuxipal wrote:-snip-

Consider it accepted.

At least I'll be able to RP Davos well, now!

I figured we'd need Rickon at some point. I didn't see Skagosson soldiers on the ORBAT. I figured each of the three houses on the islands could field a total of nine hundred men. From my minor searching (not research, just looked at the wiki) the Skagossons are larger than most northmen and more hairy. Either having Ibbenese or Giants blood (perhaps both?) mixed in with the First Man blood.

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:38 pm**

Faction: The Thalassocracy of the Ibben
Faction Type: Thalassocracy
Culture: Ibbenese
Leader/s: High Iblord Faggo Roth
Territory: The Ibbenese Islands and New Ibbish
Sovereign: High Iblord Faggo Roth
Coat of Arms: https://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/images/m616b.gif
Armed Forces: 5,000 soldiers Shadow Guard. Another 20,000 men are easily open for conscription. 2,000 sailors and raiders in the combined navies of the Shadow Council manning some 200 cogs, carracks, and the occasional large galley. There are numerous whaling ships, which are owned by civilian interests and can be impressed for transport but are absolute shite for combat.
Other Notable Things: Approximately 1,050,000 Ibbenese live under the rule of the Shadow Council

Character Name:Faggo Roth
Titles: (If any) High Iblord of Ibben, Shadow Councilor, Iblord of Ib Nor
Culture: Ibbenese
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Appearance:

Allegiance: Ibben(God-King Resurgence Faction)
Profession: High Iblord
Religion: Traditional Ibbenese God-King Worship
Other Notable Things: Faggo Roth is the 28th Iblord of Ib Nor and the fifth High Iblord from outside of Ib. He is the son of Ueggo Roth, 27th Iblord of Ib Nor. He has two sons, Lotto Roth and Rothschild Reggu. Lotto Roth is an Ibix in the Shadow Guard(commander of 200) and Rothschild Reggu is the heir apparent. Faggo assumed the mantle of Iblord at the age of 25 following the death of this father to consumption. He ruled fairly and commanded a prosperous whaling fleet. When he was 39 he was elected as the High Iblord of the Shadow Council. Faggo desires to install himself as the God-King of Ibben and reclaim the traditional lands of Ib.
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Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:19 pm**

Would a female Sealord be too progressive even for Braavos?

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:29 pm**

Finally finished my applications!

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:02 pm**

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Character Name: High Sparrow
Titles: (If any) High Septon
Culture: (Westerlander, Northerner, etc) Generic Westerosi/Kingslandinger
Age: unknown
Gender: male
Appearance: Bernie Sanders in a burlap sack
Allegiance: Faith of the Seven/Faith Militant
Profession: High Septon
Religion: Faith of the Seven
Other Notable Things: (IF A CUSTOM CHARACTER, PLEASE PROVIDE A BACKSTORY HERE) doesn't like heresy
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(REMOVE EVERYTHING IN BRACKETS, INCLUDING THIS)

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:20 pm**

Posted: **Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:38 pm**

House Name: House Tarly
Culture: Reachman
Leader: Randyll Tarly, Lord of Horn Hill
Lands: Horn Hill, territory along the Dornish Marches
Sovereign: House Tyrell of Highgarden
Coat of Arms:

Armed Forces: 4,000? House Tarly is known to be one of the stronger Bannermen of the Reach.
Other Notable Things: Heartsbane is the Family weapon.
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Character Name: Randyll Tarly
Titles: Lord of Horn Hill, Justiciar of the Seven Kingdoms
Culture: Reachmen
Age:50-55?
Gender: Male
Appearance:

Allegiance: King Tommen I Baratheon
Profession:Lord of horn Hill, Soldier, Justiciar of the Seven Kingdoms
Religion: Faith of the Seven
Other Notable Things:
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Character Name: Dickon Tarly
Titles:Heir to Horn Hill
Culture: Reachman
Age:13
Gender:Male
Appearance: Picture unavailable, generally considered fit, strong, and a promising warrior.
Allegiance: King Tommen I Baratheon
Profession: Squire
Religion: Faith of the Seven
Other Notable Things:
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Character Name: Melessa Florent
Titles: Lady of Horn Hill
Culture:Reachwoman
Age: Unkown, 45-50?
Gender: Female
Appearance:

Allegiance: King Tommen I Baratheon
Profession: Lady of Horn Hill
Religion: Faith of the Seven
Other Notable Things:
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Character Name: Talla Tarly
Titles: None
Culture: Reachwoman
Age: ~15
Gender: Female
Appearance:

Allegiance: King Tommen I Baratheon
Profession: Lady
Religion:Faith of the Seven
Other Notable Things:
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