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[Ulls]

Isn't there another nation in Japan?

[Skarten]

Well, i'm talking about Raider chieftains.
It's more of a, uh, how do i say
"Why not" Opportunity.
Yaroshima doesn't "Rule" them per say. He just has some more influence in the Tribal Council.

You’re planning to integrate raider chieftains?

The thing is, you have to give tribes a reason to give up part of their autonomy, a need that can’t be addressed through trade.

No, i meant that the biggest problem of warfare in japan right now are Raider chieftains, at least in the area.
They're rather annoying.
But, hm let's see, I think i could have Control over Dewa.

[Skarten]

Isn't there another nation in Japan?

I think.
But it's very far, and apparently Yat was supposed to overthrow it.
What happened to yat?

[G-Tech Corporation]

You’re planning to integrate raider chieftains?

The thing is, you have to give tribes a reason to give up part of their autonomy, a need that can’t be addressed through trade.

No, i meant that the biggest problem of warfare in japan right now are Raider chieftains, at least in the area.
They're rather annoying.
But, hm let's see, I think i could have Control over Dewa.

The thing to realize is that tribes are not “raider” or “non-raider”. There aren’t designated villains to unite against in the chaos of tribalism.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Isn't there another nation in Japan?

Aye, Yekrenia exists in the south, and Yamatzon is knocking about somewhere.

[Skarten]

No, i meant that the biggest problem of warfare in japan right now are Raider chieftains, at least in the area.
They're rather annoying.
But, hm let's see, I think i could have Control over Dewa.

The thing to realize is that tribes are not “raider” or “non-raider”. There aren’t designated villains to unite against in the chaos of tribalism.

It's more of a, "Protect From OTHER Raider tribes" You know.
Plus, they get goodies like Bronze and farms.
Farms aren't that much of a big thing for them on the short term,
But Bronze, on the other hand, would be rather impressing.

[G-Tech Corporation]

The thing to realize is that tribes are not “raider” or “non-raider”. There aren’t designated villains to unite against in the chaos of tribalism.

It's more of a, "Protect From OTHER Raider tribes" You know.
Plus, they get goodies like Bronze and farms.
Farms aren't that much of a big thing for them on the short term,
But Bronze, on the other hand, would be rather impressing.

Sure- but my point is that warfare such as is a significant threat to tribes doesn’t yet exist in your region of Japan. It literally takes more work to take someone else’s food than it does to gather your own. This will be true until things like central food storage and agriculture become widespread.

Oh? Where are you planning to get tin?

[Skarten]

It's more of a, "Protect From OTHER Raider tribes" You know.
Plus, they get goodies like Bronze and farms.
Farms aren't that much of a big thing for them on the short term,
But Bronze, on the other hand, would be rather impressing.

Sure- but my point is that warfare such as is a significant threat to tribes doesn’t yet exist in your region of Japan. It literally takes more work to take someone else’s food than it does to gather your own. This will be true until things like central food storage and agriculture become widespread.

Oh? Where are you planning to get tin?

I meant copper.

[Holy Tedalonia]

I don't think I'll be able to finish my northern campaign in time before the skip. Should I just prepare for the skipping? Or should I just shorten it? It be weird for the campaign to wrap up too quickly.

[Ulls]

Isn't there another nation in Japan?

Aye, Yekrenia exists in the south, and Yamatzon is knocking about somewhere.

What is Yekernia doing so far other than nothing? Is their situation similar to California?

[G-Tech Corporation]

I don't think I'll be able to finish my northern campaign in time before the skip. Should I just prepare for the skipping? Or should I just shorten it? It be weird for the campaign to wrap up too quickly.

I wouldn’t wrap up- perhaps just wrap up a narrative arc for Ted? The ongoing pacification may take years.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Aye, Yekrenia exists in the south, and Yamatzon is knocking about somewhere.

What is Yekernia doing so far other than nothing? Is their situation similar to California?

Fighting internally.

[Ulls]

What is Yekernia doing so far other than nothing? Is their situation similar to California?

Fighting internally.

Looks like my works cut out for me. Also, can you give me a a general situation on how my caravans are viewed to the Californian states?

[Holy Tedalonia]

I don't think I'll be able to finish my northern campaign in time before the skip. Should I just prepare for the skipping? Or should I just shorten it? It be weird for the campaign to wrap up too quickly.

I wouldn’t wrap up- perhaps just wrap up a narrative arc for Ted? The ongoing pacification may take years.

Ok. Shame tho. But I can't hold people back. So it'd be best. I wonder how ten years later will be like for Ted. Be interesting if there was a man Hunt out for him.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Hrmm could I have incorporated the settlements of Peloponnese into one civilization after a decade?

It depends what you mean when you say one civilization, really.

It wouldn’t be unreasonable to say some degree of your Author’s culture has permeated the Peloponnese in its entirety within a decade.

He isn’t really on a trajectory, at present, for ruling anywhere of note.

Joseph won't be ruling anything as of yet. Rather he came at a point when the settlements of the peninsula were already consolidating. He's just speeding it along.

[G-Tech Corporation]

It depends what you mean when you say one civilization, really.

It wouldn’t be unreasonable to say some degree of your Author’s culture has permeated the Peloponnese in its entirety within a decade.

He isn’t really on a trajectory, at present, for ruling anywhere of note.

Joseph won't be ruling anything as of yet. Rather he came at a point when the settlements of the peninsula were already consolidating. He's just speeding it along.

Hmm. Why are they consolidating?

[The Olog-Hai]

I'll try to get another post out soon Ulls. Probably about Abraham helping/being willing to help, but letting them know that he can't be away from Franklin for long, but he'd try to keep in touch as best he could. So I can have him get back to Franklin and do shit over the 10 year break.

[Trinity Commonwealth]

10 Years? that would be enough to build up enough trust somewhat. Maybe able to teach some of the people on how to do basic agriculture. Of course, it won't be immediate, but it'd be a work in progress.

Would also have some time to maybe explore the jungle a bit, and maybe find someway to map the local area. Maybe with stone or something.

Would also be enough time to find a way to convince her current little girl on the ideology of Matriarchalism. Would eventually seed into the area n all.

[Ulls]

Ok for the ten year time skip for Ego, here are the things that I've listed:

Civil War is over with loyalist victory. Tribal identities are broken up under force by a unified theocracy. The theocracy is not universally accepted by some, mostly those that are entrench in the Old Faith but others welcome peace and unity for the first time in 20 years. Slaves were emancipated and many were given land around Ego with the help of the Mafia.

The Cult of the Fox evolves into the Skulk, a organization that was made in the hindsight that a large minority of people believed in the Secret God, thus forming the Skulk as a secret cultural power in Ego. The have started building pseudo anchro-communities that help to structure their culture and complete their goals, rather independent or together. One of the first major ones to be built ushered in the use of cast iron with the help of Abraham and brought trade with both Ego and Franklin.

With the standardization of cast iron spread to Ego, reconstruction happened faster and made it better than it ever did. The Mafia started to organize freemen farmers around the Great Lakes with domesticated rice and the first use of Terrance Farming.

Dry Dock construction started in Twilight's Gate. Navigational tools had been made, making open-sea sailing easier and larger ships like galleys were being discussed among scholars.

Skulk expedition made to California in secret, report back findings and Jeb believed that there are more Outworlders and countries around the world. Caravans are sent in secret for recon and to start infiltration of the States.

First galleys were sent across the Great Lakes to land in what will be Chicago. Mafia bids for the ideal place to build an industrial city and a beacon of Ego's prosperity in the Great Lakes. Scholars and shamanic clergy also started to bid to build an ideal city for education of the population, it was to be called Oboyissa.

Terrance farms have seen widespread use across Ego, more food is being brought in and allowed for urbanization and massive city improvements to be used in the major cities. Chicago is one such example as freemen come from all over Ego to settle in the city and industry has started to bear its first fruits.

Iceland has been discovered and the first galleys are able to cross the Atlantic. The Skulk make plans for what they call the Twilight Incursion in order to explore the Old World and try to see what is in Europe and if there any Outworlders leading countries their before Ego can actually send an expedition there.

Ego's government starts to begin using federalism to improve government efficiency and start looking towards uniting Wisconsin not by force, but by diplomacy first. New Faith and Old Faith hold talks in Oboyissa but still have difficulties between their believes of the Night Owl, only the land owners are able to send their relatives to learn in the city but still is historical as the number of educated people in the country are rising.

The named Wisconsin Campaign was a success that allows Ego to be near the Mississippi and had sparked a lot of explorers to wander what is down the other end. Ego was split between provinces and allowed great government proficiency than the tribal confederation. Religious knightly orders based upon the Old and New Faith start popping up to try and defend the tribal frontiers and caravans.

At the turn of the decade, explorers are starting to get sponsorship to explore down the Mississippi River to explore the river and beyond. Jeb is enacting a plan that will potentially plunge Ego to war again. Skulk are looking to conduct a secret operation in Iceland and increase their operations in California. New inventions are coming out and both Old and New Faiths are at each other in debates. Chicago is starting to trade with the local tribes and doing talks to absorb them into Ego for more manpower to their industrial city.

EDIT: Also, warfare advanced to incorporate siege warfare and military engineering is a intense study with domestic engineering at places like Ego and Oboyissa.

[The Orson Empire]

Looks like there are plenty of new opportunities to rise to fame and fortune in Ego.

I think I will go through with my idea of creating a business. I will be basing it in Chicago.

[Ulls]

Looks like there are plenty of new opportunities to rise to fame and fortune in Ego.

I think I will go through with my idea of creating a business. I will be basing it in Chicago.

The idea of economic businesses haven't been officially introduced to Ego so business are sort of a foreign idea as of right now.

Organizations like the Mafia are sort of an extension of the government to allow freemen to have representation and jobs. Turner will have a province and a power base in southwestern Wisconsin thanks to his ability in the Campaign and having some local tribes on his side more than the theocracy.

Post time skip Ego will start to experiment with metal backed paper currency but for the most part, it's still a mixed economy.

[The Orson Empire]

Looks like there are plenty of new opportunities to rise to fame and fortune in Ego.

I think I will go through with my idea of creating a business. I will be basing it in Chicago.

The idea of economic businesses haven't been officially introduced to Ego so business are sort of a foreign idea as of right now.

Organizations like the Mafia are sort of an extension of the government to allow freemen to have representation and jobs. Turner will have a province and a power base in southwestern Wisconsin thanks to his ability in the Campaign and having some local tribes on his side more than the theocracy.

Post time skip Ego will start to experiment with metal backed paper currency but for the most part, it's still a mixed economy.

Yes! Turner is finally getting a damn province! Now this is where the fun begins.

As for the business, if Ego is to evolve into a proper capitalist economy, such ideas need to be introduced and experimented with soon. Turner could lay the groundwork.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Those ideas sound good, Ulls, Trinity.

[The Orson Empire]

As for my province, I think I will have its capital close to RL La Crosse, Wisconsin. With technology advancing in Ego, I'd like to build my own castle as the seat of the local government, as well as build up the city surrounding the castle to rival major cities such as Ego and Twilight's Gate, as well as the rising city of Oboyissa.

Due to the fact that this city lies right along side the Mississippi River, I imagine it would become the gateway to other settlements and tribes not aligned to Ego south of Wisconsin, and explorers would use it as a base of operations to explore upriver. I'd also imagine that the city and the province as a whole would become very rich off of the river trade.

[Ulls]

As for my province, I think I will have its capital close to RL La Crosse, Wisconsin. With technology advancing in Ego, I'd like to build my own castle as the seat of the local government, as well as build up the city surrounding the castle to rival major cities such as Ego and Twilight's Gate, as well as the rising city of Oboyissa.

Due to the fact that this city lies right along side the Mississippi River, I imagine it would become the gateway to other settlements and tribes not aligned to Ego south of Wisconsin, and explorers would use it as a base of operations to explore upriver. I'd also imagine that the city and the province as a whole would become very rich off of the river trade.

I can see the province becoming rich, but it wouldn't rival Ego or Twilight's Gate, but would be one of the fastest growing in the south. However the rest of the things you said I can agree on.