New Civilizations [OOC | Open]

[Skarten]

Step 1 Conquer a good part of Japan
Step 2 make junk Japanese ships (not literal junk)
Step 3 contact outside civilization (Imperium even better)
Step 4 Profit

Won't be able to reach step three, No one will save you from the Night Owl. Submit while you still can.

But seriously, to answer your question about the missionaries, I probably won't instigate a rebellion but it depends what you do to the followers.

We will see that.
Don't underestimate a Samurai.

[G-Tech Corporation]

With War of course, especially if its a valuable or rather larger chunk of land. Especially if the local leaders turn it over, the Scythian should be screaming bloody murder and attacking. They have to know that any regression at this point leads to death. The alternative is the assumption of a nomadic lifestyle and a retreat eastward.

Well, it should be explained that Holy Scythia isn’t a conventional polity- their expansion was more integrating local rulers with economic ties and religious conversion, and also large gifts/bribes, rather than military conquest. That’s the reason Viktor is going with the bribe option- it is basically a legitimized method of transferring authority in merchantile Scythian culture, just one that has never been used against them.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Step 1 Conquer a good part of Japan
Step 2 make junk Japanese ships (not literal junk)
Step 3 contact outside civilization (Imperium even better)
Step 4 Profit

Won't be able to reach step three, No one will save you from the Night Owl. Submit while you still can.

But seriously, to answer your question about the missionaries, I probably won't instigate a rebellion but it depends what you do to the followers.

Amusing that here you’re the one looking to push missionaries

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

With War of course, especially if its a valuable or rather larger chunk of land. Especially if the local leaders turn it over, the Scythian should be screaming bloody murder and attacking. They have to know that any regression at this point leads to death. The alternative is the assumption of a nomadic lifestyle and a retreat eastward.

Well, it should be explained that Holy Scythia isn’t a conventional polity- their expansion was more integrating local rulers with economic ties and religious conversion, and also large gifts/bribes, rather than military conquest. That’s the reason Viktor is going with the bribe option- it is basically a legitimized method of transferring authority in merchantile Scythian culture, just one that has never been used against them.

In turn I assume the Scythians would counterbribe the rulers until one side could not afford it

[Ulls]

Won't be able to reach step three, No one will save you from the Night Owl. Submit while you still can.

But seriously, to answer your question about the missionaries, I probably won't instigate a rebellion but it depends what you do to the followers.

We will see that.
Don't underestimate a Samurai.

Crossbow says otherwise.

But really in truth, not going to do war unless Yamatzon is there and there's some profit in it. I may trade horses with you or something like that.

Won't be able to reach step three, No one will save you from the Night Owl. Submit while you still can.

But seriously, to answer your question about the missionaries, I probably won't instigate a rebellion but it depends what you do to the followers.

Amusing that here you’re the one looking to push missionaries

See I wouldn't mind Imperial Christian missionaries because I will make sure that the Christianity won't take root. It would be contained in isolated places or those that may have religious debates.

Still, from the look of Imperium missionaries trying to come and "tame" Ego would make it take the stance it would have in the future.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well, it should be explained that Holy Scythia isn’t a conventional polity- their expansion was more integrating local rulers with economic ties and religious conversion, and also large gifts/bribes, rather than military conquest. That’s the reason Viktor is going with the bribe option- it is basically a legitimized method of transferring authority in merchantile Scythian culture, just one that has never been used against them.

In turn I assume the Scythians would counterbribe the rulers until one side could not afford it

They might- but a man once-bribed is likely to be rather less than respected if he switches alliegance again. Plus it isn’t a pure bribe- it is also the local vassal recognizing that much of his lands speak Imperial Common and follow a different Christian sect than his own masters. ‘tis how the Imperium integrates many tribes.

Not a bad point though. They’ll definitely try it.

[G-Tech Corporation]

We will see that.
Don't underestimate a Samurai.

Crossbow says otherwise.

But really in truth, not going to do war unless Yamatzon is there and there's some profit in it. I may trade horses with you or something like that.

Amusing that here you’re the one looking to push missionaries

See I wouldn't mind Imperial Christian missionaries because I will make sure that the Christianity won't take root. It would be contained in isolated places or those that may have religious debates.

Still, from the look of Imperium missionaries trying to come and "tame" Ego would make it take the stance it would have in the future.

Historically, Christianity isn’t the easiest religion to contain

Maybe some of the people of Jersey will convert and spread the Good Word inland.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

In turn I assume the Scythians would counterbribe the rulers until one side could not afford it

They might- but a man once-bribed is likely to be rather less than respected if he switches alliegance again. Plus it isn’t a pure bribe- it is also the local vassal recognizing that much of his lands speak Imperial Common and follow a different Christian sect than his own masters. ‘tis how the Imperium integrates many tribes.

Not a bad point though. They’ll definitely try it.

Honestly at the very least it allows the vassal to inevitably get more money out of you.

[G-Tech Corporation]

They might- but a man once-bribed is likely to be rather less than respected if he switches alliegance again. Plus it isn’t a pure bribe- it is also the local vassal recognizing that much of his lands speak Imperial Common and follow a different Christian sect than his own masters. ‘tis how the Imperium integrates many tribes.

Not a bad point though. They’ll definitely try it.

Honestly at the very least it allows the vassal to inevitably get more money out of you.

Right now he is negotiating in secret, because this has never been done before and he is pretty sure the Priest-King would imprison or depose him if the plot became known. It’ll probably lead to counter-bribing attempts in the future though.

[Ulls]

Crossbow says otherwise.

But really in truth, not going to do war unless Yamatzon is there and there's some profit in it. I may trade horses with you or something like that.



See I wouldn't mind Imperial Christian missionaries because I will make sure that the Christianity won't take root. It would be contained in isolated places or those that may have religious debates.

Still, from the look of Imperium missionaries trying to come and "tame" Ego would make it take the stance it would have in the future.

Historically, Christianity isn’t the easiest religion to contain

Maybe some of the people of Jersey will convert and spread the Good Word inland.

Thinking of sending missionaries over there.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Historically, Christianity isn’t the easiest religion to contain

Maybe some of the people of Jersey will convert and spread the Good Word inland.

Thinking of sending missionaries over there.

Dibs!

[Ulls]

Thinking of sending missionaries over there.

Dibs!

Closest to it and will already be converted into the Mandate by the time contact happens.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Dibs!

Closest to it and will already be converted into the Mandate by the time contact happens.

That’s what you think...

*Santa Maria intensifies*

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Surprise conversion to the Church of Jesus Christ Our Saviour

[Ulls]

Closest to it and will already be converted into the Mandate by the time contact happens.

That’s what you think...

*Santa Maria intensifies*

Ballista defenses.


Though has anyone tried to do a silk road or attempted it?

[G-Tech Corporation]

That’s what you think...

*Santa Maria intensifies*

Ballista defenses.


Though has anyone tried to do a silk road or attempted it?

To my knowledge Scythia trades east, but only to a minor extent, because there aren’t real civilizations in that direction to trade with.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Even if the Hellenic Republic is subsumed by the Imperium, the Church of Jesus Christ Our Saviour will spread and grow worldwide.

[Ulls]

Even if the Hellenic Republic is subsumed by the Imperium, the Church of Jesus Christ Our Saviour will spread and grow worldwide.

Purge the heretical religion.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Even if the Hellenic Republic is subsumed by the Imperium, the Church of Jesus Christ Our Saviour will spread and grow worldwide.

Purge the heretical religion.

Microbiology and disease theory depart this world

[G-Tech Corporation]

Even if the Hellenic Republic is subsumed by the Imperium, the Church of Jesus Christ Our Saviour will spread and grow worldwide.

Or, more likely, just merge with general Christianity once it sheds all that heretical Scythian hierarchical nonsense.

[Ulls]

Purge the heretical religion.

Microbiology and disease theory depart this world

Even if Ego is christianized, I already have a contingency plan.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Even if the Hellenic Republic is subsumed by the Imperium, the Church of Jesus Christ Our Saviour will spread and grow worldwide.

Or, more likely, just merge with general Christianity once it sheds all that heretical Scythian hierarchical nonsense.

>Scythian
>Walker is literally unaware that the Scythians exist, let alone that they're Christian

[G-Tech Corporation]

Or, more likely, just merge with general Christianity once it sheds all that heretical Scythian hierarchical nonsense.

>Scythian
>Walker is literally unaware that the Scythians exist, let alone that they're Christian

Sure, but Imperial Christians will find the odd hierarchy fetish similar.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

>Scythian
>Walker is literally unaware that the Scythians exist, let alone that they're Christian

Sure, but Imperial Christians will find the odd hierarchy fetish similar.

Nurse's Aide-Deacon
Nurse-Priest
Practitioner-Monsignor
Doctor-Bishop
Surgeon-Cardinal
Surgeon General-Pope

It's no different from IRL Catholicism

[Ulls]

You Christians can't get rid of pagans!