New Civilizations [OOC | Open]

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

I mean a simple spear-and-shield wall will win any battle at this point, especially if supported by skirmishers.

True, perhaps whoever gets the best longbow would be able to determine the fact of Japan?

Yes, that'll be very helpful. But honestly, what with gunpowder being so easy to make(relatively), I'd be shocked if one of them didn't make like grenades. As a shock and awe weapon.

[Ulls]

True, perhaps whoever gets the best longbow would be able to determine the fact of Japan?

Yes, that'll be very helpful. But honestly, what with gunpowder being so easy to make(relatively), I'd be shocked if one of them didn't make like grenades. As a shock and awe weapon.

Still takes fifty years to make it.

[Skarten]

I mean a simple spear-and-shield wall will win any battle at this point, especially if supported by skirmishers.

True, perhaps whoever gets the best longbow would be able to determine the fact of Japan?

I CALL YUMI BOWS

[Holy Tedalonia]

I mean a simple spear-and-shield wall will win any battle at this point, especially if supported by skirmishers.

True, perhaps whoever gets the best longbow would be able to determine the fact of Japan?

Historically in Japan the faction that specialized in peasants won when guns were introduced, probably because their use to training peasants. So when in doubt the army of a thousand spears (Oda clan) is the one to chose.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Yes, that'll be very helpful. But honestly, what with gunpowder being so easy to make(relatively), I'd be shocked if one of them didn't make like grenades. As a shock and awe weapon.

Still takes fifty years to make it.

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Go piss in a pot full of shit. Wait 10 months. Mix with charcoal and sulfur. Dry. Poof.
#Oversimplified

[Ulls]

True, perhaps whoever gets the best longbow would be able to determine the fact of Japan?

I CALL YUMI BOWS

Only for horseback.

Still takes fifty years to make it.

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Go piss in a pot full of shit. Wait 10 months. Mix with charcoal and sulfur. Dry. Poof.
#Oversimplified

Its the rule made by the original RP and G-Tech is following the rule.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

1. General NS rules
2. Author parameters are as stated above - unchanging unless further notice is given.
3. Timeskips can be postponed for reasons such as dialogue or important meetings, and will only come occasionally- don't ask for them unless the majority of the RP would like one.
4. Posts should be no less than 4 paragraphs in length - dialogue being the exception.
5. Realism is important in regards to people. Neolithc people were ignorant, not stupid. They are not just going to make you a king or declare you a god simply because you crafted a wheelbarrow.
6. Questions regarding the roleplay should be directed towards myself or one of the appointed Co-ops, whom might be appointed at a later date, if I can be bothered.
7. Immortality - it can be shared once by each Author to one other person, but only one, and it cannot be revoked or altered.

It might've been in the original rp, but I do not see it in this one's OP

[Holy Tedalonia]

1. General NS rules
2. Author parameters are as stated above - unchanging unless further notice is given.
3. Timeskips can be postponed for reasons such as dialogue or important meetings, and will only come occasionally- don't ask for them unless the majority of the RP would like one.
4. Posts should be no less than 4 paragraphs in length - dialogue being the exception.
5. Realism is important in regards to people. Neolithc people were ignorant, not stupid. They are not just going to make you a king or declare you a god simply because you crafted a wheelbarrow.
6. Questions regarding the roleplay should be directed towards myself or one of the appointed Co-ops, whom might be appointed at a later date, if I can be bothered.
7. Immortality - it can be shared once by each Author to one other person, but only one, and it cannot be revoked or altered.

It might've been in the original rp, but I do not see it in this one's OP

G's a lazy git

[Skarten]

I CALL YUMI BOWS

Only for horseback.

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Go piss in a pot full of shit. Wait 10 months. Mix with charcoal and sulfur. Dry. Poof.
#Oversimplified

Its the rule made by the original RP and G-Tech is following the rule.

Wrong. There are many Yumi footmen.

[G-Tech Corporation]

1. General NS rules
2. Author parameters are as stated above - unchanging unless further notice is given.
3. Timeskips can be postponed for reasons such as dialogue or important meetings, and will only come occasionally- don't ask for them unless the majority of the RP would like one.
4. Posts should be no less than 4 paragraphs in length - dialogue being the exception.
5. Realism is important in regards to people. Neolithc people were ignorant, not stupid. They are not just going to make you a king or declare you a god simply because you crafted a wheelbarrow.
6. Questions regarding the roleplay should be directed towards myself or one of the appointed Co-ops, whom might be appointed at a later date, if I can be bothered.
7. Immortality - it can be shared once by each Author to one other person, but only one, and it cannot be revoked or altered.

It might've been in the original rp, but I do not see it in this one's OP

Yeah, it's more of an informal rule, but it exists nonetheless. Essentially, if your character possesses a reasonable knowledge of gunpowder- such as you just demonstrated- it can be developed in about fifty years as a viable mixture with good explosive characteristics. Characters with less knowledge will take longer, and other circumstances may shorten the time (like being next to a neighbor with gunpowder weapons, for instance), thus it isn't a hard-and-fast regulation.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

1. General NS rules
2. Author parameters are as stated above - unchanging unless further notice is given.
3. Timeskips can be postponed for reasons such as dialogue or important meetings, and will only come occasionally- don't ask for them unless the majority of the RP would like one.
4. Posts should be no less than 4 paragraphs in length - dialogue being the exception.
5. Realism is important in regards to people. Neolithc people were ignorant, not stupid. They are not just going to make you a king or declare you a god simply because you crafted a wheelbarrow.
6. Questions regarding the roleplay should be directed towards myself or one of the appointed Co-ops, whom might be appointed at a later date, if I can be bothered.
7. Immortality - it can be shared once by each Author to one other person, but only one, and it cannot be revoked or altered.

It might've been in the original rp, but I do not see it in this one's OP

Yeah, it's more of an informal rule, but it exists nonetheless. Essentially, if your character possesses a reasonable knowledge of gunpowder- such as you just demonstrated- it can be developed in about fifty years as a viable mixture with good explosive characteristics. Characters with less knowledge will take longer, and other circumstances may shorten the time (like being next to a neighbor with gunpowder weapons, for instance), thus it isn't a hard-and-fast regulation.

Oh phew

What about flashy impress the plebs gunpowder? Stuff for like "magic"

[Ulls]

Only for horseback.


Its the rule made by the original RP and G-Tech is following the rule.

Wrong. There are many Yumi footmen.

Ehh, Ego's longbows could defeat the Yumi, even more so when they get phased out.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Yeah, it's more of an informal rule, but it exists nonetheless. Essentially, if your character possesses a reasonable knowledge of gunpowder- such as you just demonstrated- it can be developed in about fifty years as a viable mixture with good explosive characteristics. Characters with less knowledge will take longer, and other circumstances may shorten the time (like being next to a neighbor with gunpowder weapons, for instance), thus it isn't a hard-and-fast regulation.

Oh phew

What about flashy impress the plebs gunpowder? Stuff for like "magic"

You could make a concoction of some explosive power easily enough, just use some isolated reactive chemicals or guncotton, yep. The restriction didn't really make sense at the time, and I protested it, but given that it has been in place for months now it would be a bit silly to remove it.

[Ulls]

Oh phew

What about flashy impress the plebs gunpowder? Stuff for like "magic"

You could make a concoction of some explosive power easily enough, just use some isolated reactive chemicals or guncotton, yep. The restriction didn't really make sense at the time, and I protested it, but given that it has been in place for months now it would be a bit silly to remove it.

Damn, all the avenues that might have gunpowder weapons are gone though. But I will still research this nevertheless.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Yeah, you're a bit of a special case. Muskets are just fancy clubs without explosives in their barrels. I would say it might take Ego some extra time to develop gunpowder, but Jeb's expertise will help them miniaturize methods of using it fairly rapidly compared to other polities. The Imperium, for instance, is just starting to deploy personal firearms now, and they've had cannons for a decade and more. You could probably do it in a year or two due to Jeb being far more familiar with personal pieces.

[Ulls]

Yeah, you're a bit of a special case. Muskets are just fancy clubs without explosives in their barrels. I would say it might take Ego some extra time to develop gunpowder, but Jeb's expertise will help them miniaturize methods of using it fairly rapidly compared to other polities. The Imperium, for instance, is just starting to deploy personal firearms now, and they've had cannons for a decade and more. You could probably do it in a year or two due to Jeb being far more familiar with personal pieces.

Hence when Ego gets guns, they will potentially be the strongest army in the world because of Jeb's experience knowing guns and weaponry more than the Imperium.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

My only personal real-world expeierence is with bolt actions. I loved my .22 as a kid.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Yeah, you're a bit of a special case. Muskets are just fancy clubs without explosives in their barrels. I would say it might take Ego some extra time to develop gunpowder, but Jeb's expertise will help them miniaturize methods of using it fairly rapidly compared to other polities. The Imperium, for instance, is just starting to deploy personal firearms now, and they've had cannons for a decade and more. You could probably do it in a year or two due to Jeb being far more familiar with personal pieces.

Hence when Ego gets guns, they will potentially be the strongest army in the world because of Jeb's experience knowing guns and weaponry more than the Imperium.

Mm, perhaps. Perhaps pound for pound, if they are fully equipped, which will take time and significant resources. I wager Ego is rather outweighed though.

My only personal real-world expeierence is with bolt actions. I loved my .22 as a kid.

I personally grew up hunting, but the guns we used have very little to do with black powder weapons of easy replicability.

[The Orson Empire]

You posting today Ulls?

[Ulls]

You posting today Ulls?

yeah, almost done with it, trying to set the big transition and Turner will be at Ego when it happens.

[Ulls]

Hence when Ego gets guns, they will potentially be the strongest army in the world because of Jeb's experience knowing guns and weaponry more than the Imperium.

Mm, perhaps. Perhaps pound for pound, if they are fully equipped, which will take time and significant resources. I wager Ego is rather outweighed though.

You are correct since industry isn't my thing. However I can assure that Ego would have better quality troops than the Imperium if they do it pound for pound. Though this is for the future and I don't if Ego would go to war with the Imperium, its more likely we do trading but under tariffs as the Imperium would be angry at the theocracy keeping out missionaries.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Mm, perhaps. Perhaps pound for pound, if they are fully equipped, which will take time and significant resources. I wager Ego is rather outweighed though.

You are correct since industry isn't my thing. However I can assure that Ego would have better quality troops than the Imperium if they do it pound for pound. Though this is for the future and I don't if Ego would go to war with the Imperium, its more likely we do trading but under tariffs as the Imperium would be angry at the theocracy keeping out missionaries.

I’m interested how you think the quality will be better- training? Morale?

[Ulls]

You are correct since industry isn't my thing. However I can assure that Ego would have better quality troops than the Imperium if they do it pound for pound. Though this is for the future and I don't if Ego would go to war with the Imperium, its more likely we do trading but under tariffs as the Imperium would be angry at the theocracy keeping out missionaries.

I’m interested how you think the quality will be better- training? Morale?

Training would be the main thing. Jeb would use his reenacting skills and battles as a measure on how they will fight, find weaknesses in the person and team building and training. This would be more emphasized once crossbows and gunpowder weapons are introduced as small unit tactics and group reliability would be more entrenched with advanced unit organization and specialization. However, one of the major points that they have is flexibility and adaptability for when things like new tactics and weapons to come in.

This is already been implemented in some degree but Jeb thought that it wasn't really necessary to advance it further because of the lack of guns or advance weapons.

Morale is a secondary concern because its worked into the training. Ego troops generally are taught the horrors of war but understand that they must do war because its what safe keeps Ego and their tribes. This will be replaced with a more religious zeal and reform the warrior training to understand war, but give incentives and structure it around the American military service as more advance things will be coming in.

[G-Tech Corporation]

I’m interested how you think the quality will be better- training? Morale?

Training would be the main thing. Jeb would use his reenacting skills and battles as a measure on how they will fight, find weaknesses in the person and team building and training. This would be more emphasized once crossbows and gunpowder weapons are introduced as small unit tactics and group reliability would be more entrenched with advanced unit organization and specialization. However, one of the major points that they have is flexibility and adaptability for when things like new tactics and weapons to come in.

This is already been implemented in some degree but Jeb thought that it wasn't really necessary to advance it further because of the lack of guns or advance weapons.

Morale is a secondary concern because its worked into the training. Ego troops generally are taught the horrors of war but understand that they must do war because its what safe keeps Ego and their tribes. This will be replaced with a more religious zeal and reform the warrior training to understand war, but give incentives and structure it around the American military service as more advance things will be coming in.

Hmm, those are good thoughts. I'd probably be of the opinion that field experience and decades of tactical and strategic warfare against foes more organized than your average North American tribe will lend the Imperial Army the edge when it comes to doctrine and collective skill, but that's just my $0.02. Obviously those tactics and methods of warfare will have to be overhauled in order to deal with a foe with weapons that can harm an army in steel kit equipped with rifles, but that will be the case for both of our polities.

[Ulls]

Training would be the main thing. Jeb would use his reenacting skills and battles as a measure on how they will fight, find weaknesses in the person and team building and training. This would be more emphasized once crossbows and gunpowder weapons are introduced as small unit tactics and group reliability would be more entrenched with advanced unit organization and specialization. However, one of the major points that they have is flexibility and adaptability for when things like new tactics and weapons to come in.

This is already been implemented in some degree but Jeb thought that it wasn't really necessary to advance it further because of the lack of guns or advance weapons.

Morale is a secondary concern because its worked into the training. Ego troops generally are taught the horrors of war but understand that they must do war because its what safe keeps Ego and their tribes. This will be replaced with a more religious zeal and reform the warrior training to understand war, but give incentives and structure it around the American military service as more advance things will be coming in.

Hmm, those are good thoughts. I'd probably be of the opinion that field experience and decades of tactical and strategic warfare against foes more organized than your average North American tribe will lend the Imperial Army the edge when it comes to doctrine and collective skill, but that's just my $0.02. Obviously those tactics and methods of warfare will have to be overhauled in order to deal with a foe with weapons that can harm an army in steel kit equipped with rifles, but that will be the case for both of our polities.

That is true, the Imperial Army would be more experienced against Author nations than Ego's own. Ehh, at least I'll be one of the strongest then.