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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:06 pm

Ulls wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Good.

I think this will put us in a better position for a civil war, if Turner has his own troops that are directly loyal to him.

I'm guessing Turner would want to do it before the Imperium finds out about Ego and rolfstomps both of us.

The Imperium is strong, but not that strong. Sustaining a long term campaign across the Atlantic, even with their level of technology, would be very difficult.

We would be better of establishing diplomatic relations with them and trying to get some of their tech.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:09 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Ulls wrote:I'm guessing Turner would want to do it before the Imperium finds out about Ego and rolfstomps both of us.

The Imperium is strong, but not that strong. Sustaining a long term campaign across the Atlantic, even with their level of technology, would be very difficult.

We would be better of establishing diplomatic relations with them and trying to get some of their tech.

Yes, but depending on the technology level
Assume you've been fighting long enough to the point where guns are common use. The Imperium's specialty is Tech even in small numbers they can inflict heavy casualties
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Postby Ulls » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:11 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Ulls wrote:I'm guessing Turner would want to do it before the Imperium finds out about Ego and rolfstomps both of us.

The Imperium is strong, but not that strong. Sustaining a long term campaign across the Atlantic, even with their level of technology, would be very difficult.

We would be better of establishing diplomatic relations with them and trying to get some of their tech.

Only when Ego is united and culturally strong. The Imperium's culture alone will start to absorb Ego in Europe. If we do make contact then we need that strength to maintain identity before we break it in civil war.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:15 pm

Ulls wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The Imperium is strong, but not that strong. Sustaining a long term campaign across the Atlantic, even with their level of technology, would be very difficult.

We would be better of establishing diplomatic relations with them and trying to get some of their tech.

Only when Ego is united and culturally strong. The Imperium's culture alone will start to absorb Ego in Europe. If we do make contact then we need that strength to maintain identity before we break it in civil war.

Is this Game of Tribes? I like Game of Crohns better...
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Postby Ulls » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:17 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Ulls wrote:Only when Ego is united and culturally strong. The Imperium's culture alone will start to absorb Ego in Europe. If we do make contact then we need that strength to maintain identity before we break it in civil war.

Is this Game of Tribes? I like Game of Crohns better...

I guess it is. Need an Iron Throne to make it all better.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:19 pm

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:Is this Game of Tribes? I like Game of Crohns better...

I guess it is. Need an Iron Throne to make it all better.

Nah, G has an iron throne and you don't want copyright infringement.

For Game of Tribes, I suggest a wooden throne made of poky woody spears.

The Game of Crohns throne shall be one made out of porcelain...
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Postby Ulls » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:25 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Ulls wrote:I guess it is. Need an Iron Throne to make it all better.

Nah, G has an iron throne and you don't want copyright infringement.

For Game of Tribes, I suggest a wooden throne made of poky woody spears.

The Game of Crohns throne shall be one made out of porcelain...

Who cares about copyright infringement when your across the Atlantic? :p

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:28 pm

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:Nah, G has an iron throne and you don't want copyright infringement.

For Game of Tribes, I suggest a wooden throne made of poky woody spears.

The Game of Crohns throne shall be one made out of porcelain...

Who cares about copyright infringement when your across the Atlantic? :p

It matters when you come to the modern era to find that your now being fined for a decision 5000 years ago.
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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:34 pm

Ulls wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:The Imperium is strong, but not that strong. Sustaining a long term campaign across the Atlantic, even with their level of technology, would be very difficult.

We would be better of establishing diplomatic relations with them and trying to get some of their tech.

Only when Ego is united and culturally strong. The Imperium's culture alone will start to absorb Ego in Europe. If we do make contact then we need that strength to maintain identity before we break it in civil war.

I disagree. Ego's culture is already unique and radically different from Imperium-controlled Europe.

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Postby Ulls » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:41 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Ulls wrote:Only when Ego is united and culturally strong. The Imperium's culture alone will start to absorb Ego in Europe. If we do make contact then we need that strength to maintain identity before we break it in civil war.

I disagree. Ego's culture is already unique and radically different from Imperium-controlled Europe.

True, but things like Christianity against Ego's religion will stomp it, even if we had the same amount of tech(i.e the Norse). Ego also needs to be able to unify against the Imperium's growing influence in Europe. If we can pull those two things off, then we can survive contact with the Imperium.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:49 pm

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The Orson Empire wrote:I disagree. Ego's culture is already unique and radically different from Imperium-controlled Europe.

True, but things like Christianity against Ego's religion will stomp it, even if we had the same amount of tech(i.e the Norse). Ego also needs to be able to unify against the Imperium's growing influence in Europe. If we can pull those two things off, then we can survive contact with the Imperium.

Why is this necessarily the case? Are the people of Ego not loyal to their religion?

All you have to do is to ban any Christian preachers from Ego-controlled territory. As for anyone caught spreading such heresy, kill them, put their heads on spikes and display them along major roads or outside the city gate.

People will get the message.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:51 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Ulls wrote:True, but things like Christianity against Ego's religion will stomp it, even if we had the same amount of tech(i.e the Norse). Ego also needs to be able to unify against the Imperium's growing influence in Europe. If we can pull those two things off, then we can survive contact with the Imperium.

Why is this necessarily the case? Are the people of Ego not loyal to their religion?

All you have to do is to ban any Christian preachers from Ego-controlled territory. As for anyone caught spreading such heresy, kill them, put their heads on spikes and display them along major roads or outside the city gate.

People will get the message.

Do Americans consider themselves British?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:55 pm

Hey, Ulls. Why would Ego attack an Outworlder?
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Postby Ulls » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:08 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hey, Ulls. Why would Ego attack an Outworlder?

Ego wouldn't attack an Outworlder, but Jeb and the Council itself believes that Turner is ambitious and is a wild card in the group. They believe that he would proclaim himself a god, which he did said to Jeb, and his ambitions will break Ego, so they will want to kill him before he cause permanent damage to the country.

However, Jeb does see that Turner could be useful in uniting Ego so he sent the Cult to watch him, see how far he would go with his ambitions and see if they are good or bad for Ego, then they will deal him as he will become a bigger threat once Ego is united.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:17 pm

Ulls wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Hey, Ulls. Why would Ego attack an Outworlder?

Ego wouldn't attack an Outworlder, but Jeb and the Council itself believes that Turner is ambitious and is a wild card in the group. They believe that he would proclaim himself a god, which he did said to Jeb, and his ambitions will break Ego, so they will want to kill him before he cause permanent damage to the country.

However, Jeb does see that Turner could be useful in uniting Ego so he sent the Cult to watch him, see how far he would go with his ambitions and see if they are good or bad for Ego, then they will deal him as he will become a bigger threat once Ego is united.

So if he starts actin up he'll be killed?
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Postby Ulls » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:19 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Ulls wrote:Ego wouldn't attack an Outworlder, but Jeb and the Council itself believes that Turner is ambitious and is a wild card in the group. They believe that he would proclaim himself a god, which he did said to Jeb, and his ambitions will break Ego, so they will want to kill him before he cause permanent damage to the country.

However, Jeb does see that Turner could be useful in uniting Ego so he sent the Cult to watch him, see how far he would go with his ambitions and see if they are good or bad for Ego, then they will deal him as he will become a bigger threat once Ego is united.

So if he starts actin up he'll be killed?

Basically

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:30 pm

Wait a minute, who's watching me?

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:32 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:Wait a minute, who's watching me?

Chaos is always watching. Tzeentch's cult is bored and is going to watch you.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:33 pm

Ulls wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:So if he starts actin up he'll be killed?

Basically

Ulls you should change Ego to Naggaroth
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Postby Ulls » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:38 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:Wait a minute, who's watching me?

The Cult of Foxes. Ego's spies to see what and how will you rise in Ego and what damage you will cause before the civil war. They won't do anything now but categorize major events surrounding Turner.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:01 pm

Ulls wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Wait a minute, who's watching me?

The Cult of Foxes. Ego's spies to see what and how will you rise in Ego and what damage you will cause before the civil war. They won't do anything now but categorize major events surrounding Turner.

I didn't know they were going to fucking spy on me!

I'm going to have to redo my entire strategy..

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:03 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Ulls wrote:The Cult of Foxes. Ego's spies to see what and how will you rise in Ego and what damage you will cause before the civil war. They won't do anything now but categorize major events surrounding Turner.

I didn't know they were going to fucking spy on me!

I'm going to have to redo my entire strategy..

As long as your char doesn't know it's fine, but don't "dumb luck" it
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Postby Ulls » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:07 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I didn't know they were going to fucking spy on me!

I'm going to have to redo my entire strategy..

As long as your char doesn't know it's fine, but don't "dumb luck" it

Plus Turner is a high-priority threat in the eyes of the Cult. The only reason they don't go through the "blessing" is because Jeb wants to see if his gambit can pay off.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:16 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I didn't know they were going to fucking spy on me!

I'm going to have to redo my entire strategy..

As long as your char doesn't know it's fine, but don't "dumb luck" it

It's not dumb luck.

Turner's not a stupid man, and he knows the Council doesn't trust him; if he is using his own spy ring throughout Ego, then he could come to the conclusion that the Cult of Foxes is certainly spying on him.
Ulls wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:As long as your char doesn't know it's fine, but don't "dumb luck" it

Plus Turner is a high-priority threat in the eyes of the Cult. The only reason they don't go through the "blessing" is because Jeb wants to see if his gambit can pay off.

I'm really going to have to become like Littlefinger then. The Council must never know Turner's true motives, so they can't use said motives against him. I must mislead the Council consistently.

This is turning into Game of Thrones very quickly...

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:17 pm

RIP Turner's ambitions.
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