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Postby Elerian » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:15 pm

The Traansval wrote:When exactly did the Roman-Persian alliance beat the Arabian Caliphate?


Muhammad led his conquest out from the Arabian peninsula and was defeated shortly thereafter. You should discuss it with Trace so you two can put together common history.

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Postby Aellex » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:19 pm

Elerian wrote:If you look at the map it shows that really only Guiana and the Amazons are open, the rest is owned by Brazil or the Azteks.

Oups, my bad indeed.
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Nation Name: Union des Républiques des Amériques Atlantiques
Territory: Argentina and Guiana (so pretty much everything sandwiched between Brazil and the Aztec)
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Full Nation Name : The Confederate States of America
Majority/Official Culture : Confederates, Americans, Southerners
Territorial Core : South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, parts of Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma
Territorial Claim : Louisiana, Texas, Virginia
Capital City : Charleston, South Carolina
Population : 20,343,828 (not counting African residents)

Government Type : Federal Presidential Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Apartheid, White Supremacy, Laissez Faire economics, Southern Unity
Government Focus : A strong military and economy while also keeping non-whites segregated and uneducated
Head of State : President Leland J. Mason
Head of Government : Vice President Harry M. Bateman
Government Description : The Government is a Federal Constitutional Presidential Republic consisting of three main branches: The Executive, The Legislative, and The Judicial.
The Executive Branch includes the President, Vice President, and the Presidential Cabinet and is responsible for enforcing laws passed by the Legislative Branch and acting as the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces.
The Legislative Branch is a bicameral Congress composed of the Senate and House of Representatives. Each of the eleven states in the country receives two senators and one representative for every 250,000 citizens for a total of 16 senators and 81 representatives. Congress proposes and ratifies bills, passing them into law for the President to sign and enforce.
The Judicial Branch consists of the Federal Supreme Court, Federal Appellate Courts, and Federal Circuit Courts and is tasked with interpreting the Constitution and trying major crimes that fall outside of state or local jurisdiction.

Majority/State Religion : Protestant Christianity
Religious Description : Southern Baptist Christianity. Look it up. I don't know anything about it, I'm not Baptist.

Economic Ideologies : Laissez faire capitalism
Major Production : 47% agricultural (hogs, cattle, sheep, cotton, tobacco, sugarcane) 53% industrial (iron, steel, firearms, ships, textiles)
Economic Description : The Confederate economy is a capitalist economy with substantial agriculture and industry. There is also substantial income inequality, with virtually all of the wealth held by the white population due to the racist apartheid policies adopted by the government in 1895.


Tech Level: 9.6 (I am assuming that, by bleeding edge of technology, you mean EXTREMELY primitive self-loading rifles, Maxim gun variations, early dreadnoughts, Wright Flyer, primitive autocars, etc.)

Army Strength : The Confederate Army is large, well equipped, and well trained, with much of its military power based on the border with the UKA and the Aztecs.
Army Weakness : The Confederate Army is led by a large number of generals trained during the 1870s and 1880s and as such are often needlessly risked forming antiquated line formations. However, studies of new machine guns are gradually leading to the reform of the Army's tactics and organization.
Naval Strength : The Confederate Navy boasts a powerful and modern surface fleet, with numerous large capital ships, including more than 40 battleships.
Naval Weakness : The Confederate Navy lacks a substantial submarine force, limiting their ability to interdict enemy shipping.
Further Military Description : The Confederate Army has 10 Cavalry Divisions, 94 Infantry Divisions, 31 Independent Brigades, 19 Coastal Artillery Battalions, and 10 major coastal forts, with numerous forts strung along the border with the Aztecs and the UKA. The Majority of the Infantry divisions are reserve formations or are kept under strength to free up manpower. During peacetime, the Confederacy relies largely on their Independent Brigades for rapid response to crises.
A Cavalry Division has a total of 9,216 men, 9,518 horses, 448 wagons, 430 bicycles, 24 76.2mm guns, and 24 Tredegar Machine Guns. These are allocated to a headquarters company of 96 men, 4 cavalry regiments of 1,718 men each, 4 artillery batteries of 420 men each, 191 men in a Field Engineers Company, 206 men in a Signal Engineers Company, 26 men in a quartermasters section, and 4 field ambulances with 124 men each.
A typical infantry division consists of 18,000 men, 4,600 horses, 24 machine guns, and 72 field guns. The division has two Infantry Brigades of 6,780 men each, each with two Infantry Regiments of 3,390 men, consisting of three infantry battalions and a machine gun company of 150 men each, an artillery brigade with two artillery regiments of two artillery battalions, a cavalry squadron, engineer company, medical battalion, signal company, and quartermasters battalion.

The Confederate Navy boasts an impressive fleet with 35 Battleships, 11 Battlecruisers, 4 Armored Cruisers, 37 Light Cruisers, 3 Protected Cruisers, 160 Destroyers and flotilla leaders, and 14 submarines in the Atlantic Fleet. The Caribbean Fleet boasted an addition 18 Battleships, 5 Battlecruisers, 14 Light Cruisers, 60 Destroyers and Flotilla Leaders, and 25 Submarines. The River Fleet boasted 44 Torpedo Boats and 58 River Monitors.

National Goals : To reclaim Virginia from UKA (peacefully if possible), to capture Louisiana and Texas to exploit their resources
National Issues : Race Relations (not that the government will ever admit that), Income inequality (not that the government is likely to admit it)
National Figures of Interest : Major General Jeffery T. Graves, Senator Timothy W. Wing, Marvin Tredegar, Rigel Goldberg
National Ambition/Aspirations : To become the most powerful nation in North America

History : In 1785, the states of South Carolina, Georgia, North Carolina, and Virginia seceded from the United Kingdom of America, forming the Confederate States of America. Over the next several decades, the Confederacy would expand, adopting a constitution that gave broad powers to the Federal Government but also gave more specific powers to the states. Negotiations with the UKA in the hopes of a peaceful resolution, though continuous, were ultimately fruitless.

Events came to a head in 1836 when, concerned about the potential expansion of slavery and finally given an excuse to punish the South, the UKA invaded Virginia. In the bloody four year war that followed, Richmond and Petersburg burned as did Baltimore and Harrisburg. In the end the UKA had claimed large territories from the Indigenas to the west and the state of Virginia, in reparation from the South. The peace with the CSA was formalised with the Armistice of Appomattox in 1840.

In 1860, bitter after the defeat in the Virginia War, the CSA launched a brutal surprise attack into Virginia with the aim of retaking it. A Confederate Army of 140,000 men entered Virginia and began the brutal task of retaking the homeland of some of the Confederacy’s greatest military leaders. The Army was led by the now 53 year old Army Officer Robert Edward Lee, who succeeded in handing the UKA some rather sound defeats. The Second Virginia War lasted for five long years and killed some 700,000 men. The war left Virginia in a sorry state and still in UKA hands.

During the First and Second Virginia Wars, the CSA attempted to gain a position of advantage in Missouri. The Confederate Army was larger but proved ineffective against the loose order tactics of Missouri's Republican Guard. Developed from the hunting strategies of local Indian tribes, the MRG was able to make use of the Confederate Army's line battle tactics against them, inflicting heavy casualties and many embarrassments in the First Virginia War. However, during the Second Virginia War, the Confederate Army made use of looser formations, smaller units, and deployed more cavalry troops. The Army swept through Missouri, defeating MRG forces in multiple engagements. Unfortunately, defeats in Virginia would end the chances of a Confederate annexation of Missouri. The border with Missouri remains a hotly contested region as fleeing Africans attempt to hop the border for the freedom offered by Missouri.

After the War, the Confederacy began the laborious three decade process of rebuilding and growing its economy. The loss of the Northern Factories forced the South to build more factories and shipyards, a process taking the better part of the next twenty five years. During this time, additional economic pressure from Europe forced the Confederate Government to free the African slaves from bondage in 1890. However, the Confederate Government did not enforce the emancipation and so many African-Americans remained enslaved in all but name. The former slaves were not granted citizenship and, as such, were unable to vote and, in many districts, were denied many basic constitutional rights, such as assembly, association, and even trial by jury.

The situation of African-Americans in the Confederacy has not improved much in recent years, though one could argue quite well that their situation hasn’t improved at all, however the economic situation of the Confederacy itself has never been better. The economy is on the rise, with a Gross Domestic Product of approximately $100 billion, or $3.4 trillion in 2016 dollars, up from $42 billion in 1890.
(This is a collaboration Cymrea so it may or may not receive alterations. I will be speaking with him about it.)

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The Manticoran Empire wrote:Vienna, 1870
Franz Joseph walked through the halls of his palace, contemplating the place that Austria would hold in the world. Recent years had seen the Army improve itself, quite well, in fact, from a second rate force to one of the best in Europe. At least that's what he thought. There was only one way to know for sure and that was to bleed the army. Italy would be a perfect target for his expansion. The northern coast would offer excellent ports, where he could finally build the navy he had always dreamed of. A navy that would be unrivaled in the Mediterranean. The invasion would be given to a relatively young cavalry officer, General Vilém Černý. Only 54, he had distinguished himself in several border clashes with the Poles. His use of infantry in loose formations rather than thick lines had proven quite effective. Now appeared the perfect time to strike Italy.

Vilém Černý read the telegram from King Joseph three times to be sure of his orders. He was to march 50,000 men, one third of the Imperial Army, into Northern Italy in a bid to seize the ports of Venice and Trieste. He would need to be quite cunning in order to accomplish it. The Italians outnumbered him 4 to 1 and if they bogged him down in a head-to-head fight, his chances were slim. His attack would have to be swift and decisive. He ordered one division, some 18,000 men, to march for Bolzano Bozen in a feint maneuver, making as much ruckus as possible, while he took the rest of the army, very quietly, to Trieste. When he reached Trieste, he would send a rider back to the feinting force, ordering them to make silent haste to Trieste, withdrawing by night. There was a great deal that could go wrong here and so much more to plan, but it was a good start.



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Postby Elerian » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:27 pm

Aellex wrote:-Snip-


Noted, but I think you mean Amazon not Argentina.

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Postby The Traansval » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:29 pm

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Full Nation Name: Islamic Republic of Arabia
Majority/Official Culture : Arab/Bedouin/Afro-Asian/African
Territorial Core :
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Territorial Claim:
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Capital City : Riyadh
Population : 5.2 Million

Government Type : Authoritarian Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Armed Neutrality
Government Focus : Currently, the Arabian government under Emir Faisal I is focused primarily on improving the Economy and Commerce of the nation.
Head of State: Emir Faisal I
Head of Government: Speaker of the Peoples Assembly Abdullah ibn Muhammad Al ash-Sheikh
Government Description: The principle powers of the Legislative, Executive and Judicial branches are all held by the Emir, who is elected for one ten year term. The only other major parts of the government, besides the Emir, are the Cabinent of Ministers (Whom carry out the Emir's laws through their Ministries) and the Peoples Assembly, which consists of elected representatives who propose laws to the Emir.

Majority/State Religion : Majority Hanbali Sunni Islam, with smaller sects of Shafi'i Sunni Islam (Yemen), Ibadi Islam (Oman), Oriental Christianity (Somalia) and others.
Religious Description : Oh boy, please don't make me try to disect Islam.

Economic Ideologies: Largely Mercantislism with mixes of Capitalism.
Major Production: Oil, medium-minor Ore deposits, Dates, Spices and a smaller Agricultural Sector.
Economic Description: Largely a weak economy based off trading Agricultural goods with foreign traders.


Tech Level: Uhh, maybe a 7? I don't know, this is kind of a vague thing to ask. Just regular 1900's tech, most of it bought from Foreign Nations.

Army Strength: High Mobility, Excellent Tactics and Training
Army Weakness: Poor Equipment, low numbers and
Naval Strength:
Naval Weakness:
Further Military Description:
Army: 230,000 Soldiers; 30,000 Cavalry Men, 180,000 Infantrymen, 7,000 Light Scouts, 3,000 Republican Guardsmen, 11,000 Artillery men.
The Arabian Army consists of Six Divisions, and Two independent Artillery Regiments.
Navy: 20,000 Sailors; 20 Light Crusiers, 10 Destroyers, 3 Battleships, 40 Torpedo Boats, 3 Battlecruisers, and 80 Transport ships.
Description: The men of the Arabian Army are conscripts, who wear no uniform and who largerly use their own equipment, sans the Republican Guard. Emir Faisal, newly elect to the position, has set his sights on modernizing the Army. They are a very undisciplined army, but their knowledge of the land and gureilla tactics is supreme.

Divisional ORBAT
1 Cavalry Regiment (5,000 men)
6 Infantry Regiments (5,000 men )
1 Light Scout Battalion (1,000 men)
1 Howitzer Battalion (400 men) - 15 75mm Howitzers, 10 105mm Howitzers, 5 155mm Howitzers
1 Field Gun Battalion (200 men) - 12 37mm Field Guns, 8 75mm Field Guns
Artillery Regimental ORBAT
1 Light Scout Battalion (1,000 men)
6 Howitzer Battalion (400 men) - 15 75mm Howitzers, 10 105mm Howitzers, 5 155mm Howitzers
6 Field Gun Battalion (200 men) - 12 37mm Field Guns, 8 75mm Field Guns

National Goals: Improve the Economy and Arabian Industry.
National Issues: Tensions between Shia, Sunni and other sects of Islam within the Republic.
National Figures of Interest: The Prophet Mohammed (Lazy answer, i know.)
National Ambition/Aspirations: Uniting all of Islam under the Arabian Nation.

History: For centuries, the people of the Arabian peninsula lived isolated lives. There was no Arab nation, only tribes that roamed the deserts, hoping from oasis to oasis, raising cattle and just surviving. This was once not the case, for once all of Arabia and the land of sand was ruled by a mighty caliphate, created by the successors of Gods Prophet himself. They ruled a land, not of tribes, but of one Arab people. Then the Romans came, and the Arab people stood their ground, only to fall to Persian daggers lodged in their backs. The Caliphate fell, and Arabia slowly was obsorbed by the empire of new.

All has been conquered, except for one place. The inhospitable Arabian Peninsula; a vast track of uncrossable desert, where no Roman or Persian has dared to step foot in. There, the Arab peoples ran, there God gave them shelter. There, the centuries of Tribes went on, before an act of god ended it. In his sleep, Hussein bin Ali recieved the word of god. He called for Hussein, he called for him to do his work and to reunited the peoples of the Desert, to once more form a land of Arabs, ruled by neither Roman or Persian.

He took his rightful place as the Emir of Mecca, and began to expand his power. Over the many years, he began to assimilate more and more power, absorbing new Tribes into his control through Bribes, Diplomacy and when needed, Force. In 1880, he declared the Republic of Arabia, and he moved his government to the city of Riyadh, so as to be more central to the empire. In 1892, Hussein died of a tumor, and the nation was sent into a panic. For all these years, Hussein had ruled as a dictator, but now without him here there was no power. A collection of city leaders met in Riyadh, conveening the first ever Peoples Assembly. They passed the first, and only, law to be passed by the Assembly, a law which ammended the Consititution to force Emir's to serve One Ten year term.

After Hussein, a new Emir had been elected, Ali bin Hussein. He brought about many Economical Reforms, including subsidies on the Mining and Shipping industry, along with the creation of the Arabian Colonies on the Horn of Africa, and he'd built Arabia's first official Fleet of ships. When the days flew by, and the new millenium came, Hussein stepped down, and the next Emir of Arabia was elected; Faisal I.

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Postby Victores » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:32 pm

Tech advanced like in OTL right? So people will just be starting to get into oil
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:36 pm

Victores wrote:Tech advanced like in OTL right? So people will just be starting to get into oil

Well i assume the emerging Automobile market will start to want Oil. Although methods to get the stuff is still outdated, so Arabian oil exports aren't going to be huge money makers until the 20's and 30's

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:38 pm

Victores wrote:Tech advanced like in OTL right? So people will just be starting to get into oil

Oil is actually widely used for lighting and power generation aboard large warships.
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:41 pm

Actually, looking at this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... m_industry

Patroleum was getting pretty big. The US alone was producing over 120 million gallons of the stuff in 1910

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Postby Aellex » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:45 pm

Elerian wrote:
Aellex wrote:-Snip-


Noted, but I think you mean Amazon not Argentina.
Well, I planned on making a dual-republic Guiana-Argentina, actually. If that's taking too much land for a single player, I can limit myself to the coastal areas only.
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The Traansval wrote:
Victores wrote:Tech advanced like in OTL right? So people will just be starting to get into oil

Well i assume the emerging Automobile market will start to want Oil. Although methods to get the stuff is still outdated, so Arabian oil exports aren't going to be huge money makers until the 20's and 30's

Hey, Siberia might NOT be the poorest country in the world if we find a way to get some oil.
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Postby Elerian » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:48 pm

Aellex wrote:
Elerian wrote:
Noted, but I think you mean Amazon not Argentina.
Well, I planned on making a dual-republic Guiana-Argentina, actually. If that's taking too much land for a single player, I can limit myself to the coastal areas only.


Its not too much land, I just don't know if Argentina is open or not.

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Postby Aellex » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:56 pm

Elerian wrote:Its not too much land, I just don't know if Argentina is open or not.

The area on the map was left empty so I suppose it is.
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Postby Kolvalia » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:17 pm

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Full Nation Name : Restaurierte Eidgenossenschaft - The Restored Confederation
Majority/Official Culture : Swiss
Territorial Core : Switzerland, as per the borders of 1847
Capital City : None. The location of the Tagsatzung, the Confederal Diet, rotates between the capitals of the Cantons victorious in the civil war of 1847
Population : 3.3 million

History :

It is often said of Switzerland that modernity passed it by. For it seems, in an age of modern, centralised nation-states, to belong to another world entirely. Indeed It is perhaps wrong even to speak of 'Switzerland' as a whole, or even of 'the Two Switzerlands', as it is commonly known. For it is not a 20th century state, unitary or otherwise, or even a product of 19th century dynastics - but a medieval patchwork of separate and sovereign enclaves, bound only by an ancient pact of defence - the Eidgenossenschaft, literally, the 'Oath Fellowship'. 23 Cantons, each governed by their own laws, using different currencies, speaking different languages, practicing opposing religions, and sharing only a common army between them. It is a bizarre anachronism in Europe, and perhaps now even the world.

This anachronism is often romanticised in certain circles, Switzerland depicted as a place of godliness and rustic charm, unspoiled by modernity. But the depiction conceals a more difficult reality - one of rural poverty and economic backwardness. Sectarian hatred, political corruption and instability.

The Restored Confederation owes its present state to the events of 1847, a year of great radical upheaval throughout Europe. A year in which Switzerland seemed poised to enter the modern era, and instead walked backwards. Across Europe, many of the revolutions of that and the following year were crushed. What distinguished Switzerland is that Swiss Liberalism never resurged and prevailed - perhaps due to the bizarre and unique circumstance that, in Switzerland, the revolution came instead from the forces of reaction. In the early 1840s, the Radical Democratic Party already held a majority in the Tagsatzung. Strongest in the wealthier, urbanised Protestant cantons, the Liberals pushed for the introduction of a new constitution, modelled on the French and American, that would reform the archaic Confederation into a centralised Federation. A Switzerland with a Federal Government, rather than a Diet at which cantonal delegates met. With a standardised currency and monetary policy. Separation of Church and State.

The Conservative Administrations of the Catholic Cantons were deeply opposed to this new constitution, particularly in the rural cantons, which were bastions of ultramontanism. Not only did it deprive the cantons of independence, of their ancient prerogatives and liberties, but it was a Protestant constitution that undermined the position of the Church. The religious dimension of the dispute was only inflamed by Liberal actions against the Church in the canton of Argau - the closure and seizure of monasteries, as part of a campaign of secularisation. Armed radicals even attacked Jesuits in Lucerne, in protest over the canton's Church-run education system. In the face of these challenges to the status quo, a secret alliance of Catholic Cantons was forged - the Sonderbund. When its existence was discovered in 1847, the Tagsatzung declared it unconstitutional and ordered its dissolution. Faced with the loss of the country they knew and the downfall of their faith, the Sonderbund prepared for war.

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It was not a war the Sonderbund was capable of winning by itself. Or was expected to. For it represented the 'Second Switzerland', as it is now known. In essence - rural and poor. Their cantons were outgunned, outnumbered and outclassed by the First. But French intervention turned what had initially been seen as a hopeless stand for a vanished world, into a triumph for the the forces of reaction. The Sonderbund War was not particularly bloody. Just over a thousand lives were lost. But the weight of France behind the Sonderbund was enough to force the Tagsatzung to the negotiating table, which would lead to the Lucerne Accords and the declaration of the Restored Confederation.

The Sonderbund rejected all possibility of a new constitution, even as they secured their future predominance in the Tagsatzung through the redistribution of seats to the rural areas. The effect on history would be profound. Rather than joining the modern world of nationhood and democracy, Switzerland would remain a divided country of two dozen little fiefs, stunting its political and economic development, and destroying its unity with a lasting legacy of religious strife.

Half a century later, and the Sonderbund cantons remain the powers of the Confederation. Under them, Switzerland has held onto its traditions, and held onto God, as they fought for. But at a steep price. And even those that once supported them, begin to wonder about Switzerland's place in the brave new world.

Government Type : Loose Confederation. Though a Confederal Diet convenes over matters of national defence, each of the 23 cantons is essentially a sovereign nation in its own right, with its own government and politics. In the rural cantons the archaic Landsgemeinde system is still in used, a crude form of direct democracy, open-air public assemblies in which any man who can present his service bayonet can vote. The more urbanised and populous cantons are democratic republics. However, decades of reactionary rule by the Sonderbund have stifled reform, and the secret ballot was never introduced. As such, voter intimidation is commonplace in elections, particularly given the climate of sectarian tension between Catholic and Protestant.

Government Ideology/Policies : The Protestant cantons of Switzerland tend towards modern liberalism and free trade -however, reform has been staunchly resisted by the Sonderbund. Even though the Catholic Right, as defenders of cantonal independence, cannot actually prevent the Liberal Cantons from implementing liberal policies in their own lands, they can use still Confederal restrictions on inter-cantonal relations (passed ostensibly for the purpose of preserving that independence) to block their efforts for consolidation and centralisation, which might threaten the Conservative stranglehold.

Government Focus : Switzerland's archaism has caused it to lag behind Western Europe in industrialisation and the growth of financial institutions, and its comparative poverty compared to its neighbours is a cause of considerable discontent. Together with sectarian discord between Catholic and Protestant, and ever greater pressure from the Protestant North for reform, the focus of the Catholic Sonderbund, which has dominated the Tagsatzung since the civil war, is simply to cling onto power however it can, and to keep the country intact. Switzerland's stance of neutrality is a tradition the supposed traditionalists might be willing to part with, if some foreign success, or even a foreign crisis, can distract voters from the difficulties at home.

Head of State : N/A. The position was abolished in 1815
Head of Government : Each Canton possesses its own government.

Majority/State Religion : Catholic
Religious Description : The ideological and economic divisions between the Catholic and Protestant Cantons are at the heart of Switzerland's internal discord. The German Catholic Swiss, living in the impoverished rural provinces of Central Switzerland, are fiercely religious and conservative, opposed in every way to the wealthier, predominantly urban Protestants. Essentially, the Protestants desire integration and centralisation, to turn Switzerland into a more modern European nation, whereas the Catholics desire the preservation of the traditional Confederacy and the status quo.

Economic Ideologies : Liberal Cantons favour free trade, Catholic Cantons favour protectionism.
Major Production : Textiles, weapons.
Economic Description : Switzerland's archaic patchwork nature, and the trade and currency barriers that result, have retarded industrial and economic development. Swiss economic policy and regulations vary greatly between the Cantons. Not only does this make the country confusing, difficult and unattractive to investors, it also makes bi and multi-partite agreements between cantons nigh-impossible. Country-wide Infrastructure development suffers the most from this, particularly given the great hostility from the Catholics towards anything that hints at inter-cantonal integration. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy, as the difficulty of travel between the Cantons only cements the division between them, by discouraging the migration from countryside to city that has fuelled urbanisation and industrialisation in most of the West. This is exacerbated by that the Cantons are predominantly either urban or rural.

Tech Level: 7

Army Strength : Though the cantons manage virtually all their own affairs, defence is a matter of Confederal policy, determined by the Tagsatzung. All cantons practice conscription and compulsory military service, and Switzerland can therefore call upon a comparatively large and highly-trained army for such a small nation, and the country's martial traditions make for high morale.
Army Weakness : Despite an illustrious military history, the reality is that the Swiss have not fought in a major conflict for over a century, besides the brief and not particularly bloody civil war of 1847. The Swiss Army and its leadership lacks practical experience of warfare, and their tactics and technology are particularly outdated.

National Goals : To reassert the dominance of the Sonderbund over the Protestant Cantons, suppress liberalism, prevent reform, and preserve the Old Confederacy.
National Issues : Switzerland might explode into a second civil war if constitutional amendment does not come soon. Perhaps foreign powers will take advantage of this instability?
National Figures of Interest : Bastien Keller, renowned writer, President of the Regierungsrat of Bern, and now leader of the Liberal Democratic Party in the Tagsatzung. The most significant political threat to Catholic dominance.

RP Sample : viewtopic.php?f=5&t=376067 (under the nation New Zacharia)

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So, is the Arab Republic accepted?

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Full Nation Name : Tamil Empire
Majority/Official Culture : Tamil
Territorial Core : southern India
Territorial Claim : Sri Lanka, northern India
Capital City : Chennai (Madras)
Population : 20,000,000

Government Type : Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialistic
Government Focus : economy and military
Head of State : Emperor Aghilan XII
Head of Government : Emperor Aghilan XII
Government Description : The Imperial Government is based around the Imperial Court in Chennai, where the Emperor and his officials determine the law of the land.Government posts are open to all men provided they can pass an exam (similar to the Chinese meritocratic bureaucracy).

Majority/State Religion : Oriental Orthodox Christianity
Religious Description :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malankara_Orthodox_Syrian_Church

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism
Major Production : sugar, spices, rubber, tea, opium, cotton
Economic Description : The economy is still fairly agrarian with the only industrialization being meant to process the nation's many raw materials.


Tech Level: 4

Army Strength : The army knows the land and terrain very well and the territories are quite defensible.
Army Weakness : Compared to the Great Powers of the world, the Tamil military is technologically backwards
Naval Strength : The navy knows the waters very well
Naval Weakness : Technologically inferior to Great Powers
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals : Unify all of India
National Issues : Technology needs to be improved
National Figures of Interest : St-Thomas
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]]

History :

50s-60s AD: St-Thomas, a disciple of Jesus, begins evangelization in Chennai.

70-240 AD: Era of Persecution. Christians in Chennai and Malabar coast are persecuted by the Hindu authorities.

240 AD: King Aghi of Chennai sees Jesus Christ in a dream (or so he claimed) and became a Christian. Christians begin to rise to prominence in Chennai.

255 AD-300 AD: War of the Seven Rulers. The other Tamil kings are furious that Chennai has converted to Christianity. They end up going to war with Chennai. This era pits the Christian Tamils vs the Hindu Tamils.

300 AD: The last Hindu Tamil king is defeated. All Tamil people are unified under Queen Adhi (reigned: 298-349 AD), who smashes all the Hindu temples and idols and erects churches and basilicas in their place. Worship of the Hindu pantheon is banned and the Caste System is wiped out.

350 AD: King Aghi III (reigned: 349-360 AD) declares the 1st Tamil Empire (350 AD-784 AD) and conquers Sri Lanka.

475 AD: King Aghi IV (reigned: 464-502) conquers Hyderabad in Central India and begins expansion north.

490 AD: Tamil forces capture the holy Hindu city of Varanasi and sack it. This encourages the creation of a Hindu coalition of northern rulers.

502 AD: King Aghi IV dies, 1st Tamil Empire is at the height of its power.

511 AD: King Deva the Cruel (502 AD-546 AD) begins massive persecutions of Hindus and Buddhists in Imperial lands.

597 AD: Aghi VI's forces besiege Delhi, but are routed by a coalition of northern Hindu rulers who push the Tamils back to Hyderabad.

600 AD: 1st Tamil Empire begins to decline.

625 AD-632 AD: Tamil Empire torn apart by Civil War.

636 AD: Hindu coalition takes Hyderabad.

636 AD-745 AD: 1st Tamil Empire and Hindu coalition go to war on and off.

747 AD: Islam forcefully enters India.

780 AD: Islamic forces invade crumbling 1st Tamil Empire.

784 AD: Chennai falls to Islamic forces. King Nilavan (reigned: 772 AD-784 AD) is slain in battle.

784 AD-1207 AD: Chola Sultanate covers all Tamil lands. Tamil people are ruled by Muslim Turks for centuries.

1207 AD: King Prakash (reigned: 1207 AD-1247 AD) overthrows the Chola Sultanate, expels Turkish Muslim rulers and declares the 2nd Tamil Empire (1207 AD-current year)

TO BE CONTINUED...WORK IN PROGRESS...ADVICE AND IDEAS FROM OTHERS ARE WELCOME

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Postby Victores » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:44 pm

Again, there were no Islamic hordes. The Romans and the Neo-Akkadians stopped them. Actually, someone should probably write that up as a guidance.
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Nea Byzantia wrote:-Snip-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnEPFOe1FAM


Made me think of this
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Victores wrote:Again, there were no Islamic hordes. The Romans and the Neo-Akkadians stopped them. Actually, someone should probably write that up as a guidance.

"Islamic Hordes"

I didn't say there were Hordes, i just said that after the defeat of the Caliphate the Arabs in the unconquered peninsula lived in dozens of different tribes.

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Postby Elerian » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:48 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:-Snip-


Your population would be more in the ballpark of 90 million.


The Traansval wrote:-Snip-


If you're going to quote the whole app, at least put it in spoilers please.
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The Traansval wrote:
Victores wrote:Again, there were no Islamic hordes. The Romans and the Neo-Akkadians stopped them. Actually, someone should probably write that up as a guidance.

"Islamic Hordes"

I didn't say there were Hordes, i just said that after the defeat of the Caliphate the Arabs in the unconquered peninsula lived in dozens of different tribes.

I was talking about the Tamil application, not the Arab Republic.
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Postby Elerian » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:53 pm

Victores wrote:
The Traansval wrote:"Islamic Hordes"

I didn't say there were Hordes, i just said that after the defeat of the Caliphate the Arabs in the unconquered peninsula lived in dozens of different tribes.

I was talking about the Tamil application, not the Arab Republic.


If they came by sea that would be one thing, but it wouldn't be possible to come over land.

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Elerian wrote:
Victores wrote:I was talking about the Tamil application, not the Arab Republic.


If they came by sea that would be one thing, but it wouldn't be possible to come over land.

The Tamil kings resurrected the Bronze Age Collapse Sea People, who then killed the Tamil Kings

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Full Nation Name: Aftokratoría tis sāmarāja (Empire of India in English)
Majority/Official Culture: Indohellenic
Territorial Core: Northern India, Bangladesh, and southern Afghanistan
Territorial Claim: Nepal, Southern India, Claims the borders of Alexander's empire but even the proud emperor is well aware that achieving that feat is impossible so it sticks to its claims to the rebellious Rajah's of southern India that dare rebel against the sons of Alexander and the Ancient kingdom of Nepal who's kingdom has long paid tribute to the megas basileus but now defy him. The empire's claim also extends to the now abandoned territory of Burma who rebelled 700 years ago during the time of great strife. Bali, the lost colony in the Spice Islands, home to one of the largest concentrations of Indo-Hellenes outside the empire is claimed by the Basileus.
Capital City: Alexandria, Located where Calcutta would be in RL
Population: 142,974,000

Government Type: Absolute Monarchy mixed with Feudalism
Government Ideology/Policies: Imperialism, Absolutism, Limited Feudalism, A mixture of free trade and Mercantilism, Indo-Hellenism.
Government Focus : The Empire focuses on keeping the prestige of being the last of the Diadochi kingdom's while keeping the power of the emperor secured. This includes keeping their cities attractive to foreigner's to show the prestige of the empire and keeping the imperial army large, (though tech wise they are a mixed bag) This attention to cities and prestige has left the country side, besides the extensive road network, relatively undeveloped and abused by the Rajah's who even before they found the opportunity to use their private armies ruled absolute under their fife's. The government cares little for the livelihood of simple peasants and the country way of life that has existed for centuries and millennia with little difference. Culture is an important facet for the government under the current Baselius and they give many of government funding to improve the old infrastructure of the trade cities, Alexandria itself is a special focus of the government and new projects are being built constantly to make it one of the greatest cities of the east, by using funds many view should be spent on improving the lively hood of the rural population and port city dweller's. But as long as the view of Alexandrian superiority remains the City of Alexandria, at least the wealthier sections and the port will remain a main facet, while those in the slums and country side live as they have millennia ago
Head of State : His Imperial Highness Baselius Glaukos Khatri-Bactria Protector of the empire, true Heir to the Empire of Alexander, crusher of the Afghans so on and so forth

Head of Government : Baselius Glaukos Khatri-Bactria Protector of the empire, true Heir to the Empire of Alexander, crusher of the Afghans, King of the Ganges so on and so forth
Government Description: The Empire is considered one of the last holdouts of the feudal system in the whole world, The Baselius himself holds absolute authority over both the people and the lands of the empire by the authority given to him by God (or the Gods depending on his Religion) and his title of heir to Alexander and his empire. Seeing as India, even the northern portion that have in control and not counting the rebellious southern provinces which will be brought heel is large land the reach of the Baselius is somewhat limited, to extend the control and order of the government he allows Rajah's to govern land's that belonged to their ancestor's in the name of the emperor himself, The power of the Rajah's has been severely limited by the emperor and they are under the watchful eye of the military, entire vassal maharajah's where seized by the military on rumor of a planned revolt. The rajah's must provide troops and taxes to the empire and they are not allowed themselves to raise their own troops due to fear or revolt but this does not stop the rajah's from secretly arming their peasant's and fighting their petty feuds under the nose of the emperor, but if it is found out both sides feel the wrath of the emperor due to violating the internal peace of India. But recent events in southern India has left the imperial army distracted and has allowed the Rajah's to build their own private armies without fearing the wrath of the emperor...for now. The major cities on the coast either fall under the hands of the Rajah's, the emperor himself, or for three cities, The archon's who mainly focuses on keeping imperial trade flowing into the cities, unlike the rajah's the Archon's are allowed to build fleet's and city guard's to protect trade and the city from danger but these must be turned over to the imperial army in times of war. During the time after the harvest taxes are collected by a figurative army of tax collectors that scour the countryside and villages to collect the taxes from Rajah and poor farmer alike, any infraction in tax collection ends up being severely punished by imperial law, several rajah's have been hanged for their outright refusal to pay 20 percent of their income to the emperor, for when it comes to the imperial treasury, the emperor does not mess around.


Majority/State Religion:] It depends on the Religion on the Emperor himself, for the official religion of the empire is that of the emperor, as the emperor has not chosen a religion the majority of the people are Hellenic-Hindu followed by the Nestorian church of the east and Buddhists with traditional Hindus coming in at the fourth largest religion in the empire.
Religious Description: What is there to say about the religious situation in the Empire besides the amply describing words of Complex and a complete clusterfuck in more modern terms. Even in the north of the empire if you do not count the rebellious southern India the many people of the empire all of many different faiths, each competing with among each other for converts and influence in the empire, sometimes spilling into violence which must be contained by the imperial army, if not to end the violence but to contain it before any damage to imperial property could occur. The religion that has the slightest of majorities is the Hindu-Hellenic faith, a faith that mixes in the traditions of the Greek Parthenon with the Hindu one, seen as a slightly more open version of Hinduism the religion has one of the largest grasps on the empire but its grasp is constantly contested by the many variety of other religions that exist in the empire. The largest competitor to Zeus-indra is the church of the east or Nestorians to some, even though they have their origins in Persia they also claim to have originated with the preaching s of St. Thomas and constantly strive against the Hellenes to win the souls of men in the empire, Buddhism tends to take a more passive role in the empire with many scholars and imperial scribes practicing the religion but it has only had a run as imperial religion only once during the reign of Baselius Peitor. The traditional Hindus, a dying breed of holdouts claim that the Hellenistic version of their religion is a perversion of their beliefs, of which the concept of the flexible caste is the most stunning, but they are being slowly phased out by the other three religions and the smaller religions in the empire. There are smaller minor religions scattered across the empire, ranging from Zoroastrians in the Persian border and the trade cities to Muslims in the cities to even smaller scale ones exist in the empire.
Economic Ideologies: A mixture of Mercantilism and Capitalism.
Major Production: Agricultural products with rice being one of the top products, Coal, Spices, cotton, Iron and steel, fish.
Economic Description: The imperial economy is a very agrarian based one, any little industry there is focused on the trade cities and are usually either steel and iron works used for military production for the imperial military and almost never for exports. The second mainstay for the imperial economy is trade, India has always been a mainstay for international trade, Gems, Spices, cotton, and other exotic goods are all traded in the trade cities across the western and eastern coasts, in the glory days of the empire the Imperial treasure fleet used to bring back gold and silver from places as far away as Zanzibar and Nippon where they would trade these good's, but even though the age of the trade fleet are mostly over for the empire sea borne trade is still important and any threat to it will be meet head on.


Tech Level: 5

Army Strength: Ah, the Imperial Army of India, the pride in joy of the empire with a storied history of war and expansion across the vast expanses on India and Asia itself, the true successors of the Armies of Alexander, but besides how the Imperial court would describe the army what is it that makes it such an effective fighting force. It is a very disciplined and large force with over 2,429,740 mainly disciplined men in the imperial army alone this is a fighting force that even more advanced European powers in the past would think twice before ever engaging in conflict with them.
Army Weakness: Despite the discipline and sheer size of the imperial army it lacks both the technology of a efficient fighting force and the solid leadership of one, the army is slow to adapt to more modern technology and usually wants years of combat testing before they adapt it to military service which has left them with a tech deficiency along with the traditionalists in the army who views the old ways as best. The commanders themselves usually have their own agenda's that does not necessarily mean serving the empire in battle and plenty of battle in the empires history have been lost due to incompetence or pure ambition on the general's part.
Naval Strength : The imperial navy even though not having the storied history of the army has a tradition of controlling the shipping lanes of the Indian ocean and even in more older times had practical dominion over the seas from Goa to the spice island's. Despite its lessened prominence the navy is a very skilled force focusing on defending the shipping lane and keeping a small force of very skilled sailors.
Naval Weakness : They do not receive as much funding as the army does and is out of date compared to more modern navies.
Further Military Description: [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals: To put down the rebellious south and restore order. To either reinstate the tributary system for Nepal or put a end to the state permanently, modernize the military. Extend the reach of the empire
National Issues: The feudal system that has governed the empire ever since the third empire needs to be reformed in order to bring more stability in the empire. The rebellion of the Southern rajah's needs to be put down and the south reclaimed. The spending of the imperial court is reaching a all-time high on frivolous activities, this needs to be cut back.
National Figures of Interest : His Imperial Highness Baselius Glaukos Khatri-Bactria Protector of the empire, true Heir to the Empire of Alexander, crusher of the Afghans so on and so forth
Guru Pari Athenos of the Hellenic Hindu high temple
High Priest Davod Sheriff of the Indian Nestorian church
Rajah Amphinomous Askarios-Gupta of the Ganges land
Prince Tydeides Khatri-Bactria Heir to the imperial throne.
National Ambition/Aspirations : To restore the glory of the Empire of Alexander, to restore the borders of the Old Indian Empire, to prove themselves as the true Heir's to Alexander.
History : The Empire of India has its roots in the conquests of Alexander the great who after the great battle of the Hydaspes against King Porous managed to convince his men to stay on to continue his conquests of India. Alexander proceeded to hire mercenaries from the local area and awaited reinforcements numbering 20,000 thousand men from the newly conquered Persian Empire. With the added troops to his army Alexander began his advance into India, Miraculously winning battle after battle against the various rajah's and there armies, this was mainly due to the superior tactics the Macedonians applied to the mainly unorganized armies of the Rajah. Alexander managed to conquer most of the western portion of Northern India until finally upon hearing rumors of a larger army that was preparing to meet them that his men finally convinced him to back off. Then followed the historical death of Alexander and the collapse of his empire, from the newly conquered Indian provinces would emerge many Kingdoms ruled by local Greek governors who at the event of Alexander's death declared themselves kings of their respective satrapies. The Next one hundred years would see both Greek and Indian forces fighting among each other for the western portions of India, which included the lifeblood of the area, the Ganges River.

During the year 97 BC the Greco kingdoms of India where united under Dionysophanes of the Ganges who using a quick wit and a sizable knowledge of warfare in India managed to bring all of the Alexandrian successor states into the Kingdom of the Ganges. Dionysophanes then looked east of his borders towards the barbaric Indian lands that were lucky enough to escape Alexander’s conquests, he vowed before the Temple of the river god Ganges that he would finish Alexanders conquest of India and bring the pompous rajah's to heel. Dionysophanes turned his armies east towards the eastern Maharajah's where he would by the time of his death establish the first Indian empire which contained the current borders of the empire (If you do not count the rebellious south). Neither Dionysophanes nor his descendants would ever march against the southern Rajah's due to the instability of the lands they held which required their armies to quell revolt after revolt. Despite the turmoil of the first empire it would last until the year 300 ad when Midas the Drunk doomed the empire with a punitive expedition against the Burmese barbarians resulting in a terrible defeat for the Empire. Despite the Incompetence of its last emperor the first empire or the empire of Dionysophanes resulted in the rise of the Indo-Greek culture in the north as well as the Hindu-Hellenic religion, and the founding of Alexandria, the current capital of the empire.

The Next 500 years of History would see a situation similar to the European dark age affecting the former lands of the empire as the Rajah's struggled against each other and foreigners hoping to take advantage of the collapse of the empire. The Persian Sassanid Empire attempted an invasion of the Ganges and Bactria around 450 ad which was barley fought off by a collation of the Rajah's and kings who even though despised each other despised the Zoroastrians as well. The Nestorian church, which arrived in India during the reign of Baselius Heracule started to make inroads into the current power they are today during this era. This era however was not a Dark Age for trade and culture however, as the many rulers of the divided North managed to get a hold of law and order in their domains they began to trade with the other kingdoms (when they were not fighting of course) and encouraging the arts and philosophy as any proper Greek would. The Silk Road would eventually cross through the broken lands of the old empire which they took advantage of by sending their goods to lands as far away as Constantinople and Rome. Despite the arts and trade however the land was still divided and war was more common than they wished and this really only affected the upper classes as the lower classes lived as they have before the arrival of Alexander the great. The year 900 A.D would be a significant year for the Indo-Greeks of northern India, for in this year the Virk empire or second Indian Empire would rise from a lowly Rajah's of Alexandria whose owner ship of the Former Imperial city attracted many who would love the prestige of owning the imperial city. But the Virk's always managed to hold and after leading an alliance against a Burmese invasion would unite with their surrounding rajah's and would declare themselves Megas Baselius of All of India and would send messengers across the North asking them either to submit or fall victim to the Might of the Virk's. By 913 the old Borders of the Dionysophanes empire would be Under Baselius Cyrenios Virk's authority. He would then do the Unthinkable to most, he would invade the south, the land of many cultures and peoples, the land of many different religions, a land of tigers and barbarians and great kingdoms, a land which Dionysophanes and his family failed to conquer, it would be Cyrenios's ambition, it will be his accomplishment.

Despite the odds that where pitted against him and the great armies that faced him of the many rajah's that were hoping to repeat the same way they had threw out Alexander and old Dino Cyrenios managed to win a crushing defeat outside what would of been Mumbai in our time period and crush the Southern collation once and for all, Cyrenios and his imperial army would rampage across the south conquering kingdom upon kingdom in the south until only the two kingdoms in Ceylon remained. These kingdoms eventually surrendered to Cyrenios but before he could return to Alexandria he would die at the hands of the thuggies. With the south conquered and India finally united under the control of the sons of Alexandria the Empire began a golden age that would last centuries, they height of Indo Greek power and influence would be felt across South east Asia as traders, missionaries, and armies met. The imperial armies under the Virk family marched through Burma and conquered it and invaded Siam, conflict occurred between the Empire and the lands of Cathay over influence of Vietnam on and off for many years. But disaster would come to the empire in the year 1200 when the famously sterile Emperor Sanjay and all of his brothers died trying to quell a rebellion in the province of Champaks in Indochina, The lack of heirs lead to the complete collapse of order as the rajah's rushed to claim the throne for themselves, The Indochinese provinces managed to gain independence and Burma forcefully threw out the Greeks. The Virk Empire despite its violent end had brought Indo-Greek culture into South east Asia and left a sizable impact in Southeast Asia as their roads and temples can still be seen today. The Rajah's of India once again began to tear each other apart over succession, for 200 years trade and prosperity stickled closely with war and destruction. The civil war finally ended around the year 1400 with the current dynasty the Khatri-Bactria family sizing control of the capital and declaring the third Empire, the one that shall stand for all time.

The Khatri family focused much more on the Booming foreign trade the Empire was experiencing during these period, especially the trade in Gemstones and spices, this also meant improvements to the long neglected imperial fleet which from 1450 to 1625 dominated the Indian ocean and Sea's surrounding the spice Islands. This was around the time that the first of the Imperial Treasure ships departed from Ceylon and sailed to Peking with goods from the empire in exchange for Chinese made goods. This era saw the establishment of a colony in Bali which also led to cultural influence over the residence of what the empire called The spice isles (Technically Indonesia to westerners) The treasure fleets where the first to discover the cape of good hope in 1475 and landed first in Western African trade town and in 1490 a massive treasure fleet arrived in the great Imperial city of Constantinople bearing with it goods from the far east that the Persians would of charged the Romans double for. These treasure fleets would eventually reach Nippon (Japan) in 1500 and even as far as Lubeck at one point, though the sight of a Indian treasure fleet was indeed a rare one in the west only reserved for the greatest of ports. Eventually with the arrival of Korean and Europeans in the region their naval dominance in the Indian Ocean was hotly contested until the imperial fleet was defeated by the French in the year 1625 which resulted in a humiliating defeat and loss of Sir Lanka to them. This defeat made Baselius Aristotle the wise adopt a similar policy to japan around this time period, Foreigners were not allowed in unless they were in the single port of Alekso, only then where 15 foreign vessels, including Korean where allowed into harbor. India remained a very closed state, only taking trade For Indian goods in exchange for arms and never ever granting trade concessions to any power because the Khatri knew that if they ever lost to a foreign power again the illusion of being the heirs of Alexander would collapse in on itself and the Rajah's would revolt. Recently the Korean Trade guild have managed to convince the current Baselius Glaukos to open up trade with Korea, much to the anger of the southern rajah's who immediately rebelled and began to slaughter Korean and other foreign merchants. Nepal also failed to pay tribute to the empire for the first time in its history as a tributary state, angering the emperor. The empire stands at a cross roads between opening themselves up to foreign powers and allowing traders to possibly take advantage of the untapped potential of India, or if the rebels in the south have their way the collapse of the 3rd empire and the inevitable scramble for India that would follow, The actions of the Baselius well determine whether the empire lives on or collapses and the flame of Alexander die with it.

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Rygondria wrote:-Snip-

Would you be open to an alliance with the Arab Republic?
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