1900 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC]

[Tracian Empire]

I'll make sure to honor the legacy of Belisarius.

Constantly send your generals on suicide mission to get them killed only to see them manage to survive and win each time?

Hey, if that brings Mare Nostrum back under Roman control, I'm all for it

[Victores]

I'll make sure to honor the legacy of Belisarius.

Constantly send your generals on suicide mission to get them killed only to see them manage to survive and win each time?

Boi, he cheated that last time with the plauge, he didn't even win.

[RNT]

Reservation

Nation Name: United Kingdom Of the Netherlands
Territory: Belgium and Netherlands
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

[Tracian Empire]

-Reservations-

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[align=middle][size=150][u]Reservation[/u][/size][/align]
[b]Nation Name:[/b] United Kingdom Of the Netherlands
[b]Territory:[/b] Belgium and Netherlands
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

Are you able to properly copy a reservation app?

[The Federation of Kendor]

What happened now?

[RNT]

-Reservations-

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[align=middle][size=150][u]Reservation[/u][/size][/align]
[b]Nation Name:[/b] United Kingdom Of the Netherlands
[b]Territory:[/b] Belgium and Netherlands
#AltDiv
*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations.

Are you able to properly copy a reservation app?

The copy all box didn't work so when I copied it I took the formatting with it sorry not good with some of the formatting.

[Tracian Empire]

Are you able to properly copy a reservation app?

The copy all box didn't work so when I copied it I took the formatting with it sorry not good with some of the formatting.

You have to remove the [code] tags.

[Tracian Empire]

What happened now?

What do you mean with what happened now?

[RNT]

The copy all box didn't work so when I copied it I took the formatting with it sorry not good with some of the formatting.

You have to remove the [code] tags.

Oh okay, now I think I got it.

[The Manticoran Empire]

Finished App(ish)

Full Nation Name : The Confederate States of America
Majority/Official Culture : Confederates, Americans, Southerners
Territorial Core : South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, parts of Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma
Territorial Claim : Louisiana, Texas, Virginia
Capital City : Charleston, South Carolina
Population : 20,343,828 (not counting African residents)

Government Type : Federal Presidential Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Apartheid, White Supremacy, Laissez Faire economics, Southern Unity
Government Focus : A strong military and economy while also keeping non-whites segregated and uneducated
Head of State : President Leland J. Mason
Head of Government : Vice President Harry M. Bateman
Government Description : The Government is a Federal Constitutional Presidential Republic consisting of three main branches: The Executive, The Legislative, and The Judicial.
The Executive Branch includes the President, Vice President, and the Presidential Cabinet and is responsible for enforcing laws passed by the Legislative Branch and acting as the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces.
The Legislative Branch is a bicameral Congress composed of the Senate and House of Representatives. Each of the eleven states in the country receives two senators and one representative for every 250,000 citizens for a total of 16 senators and 81 representatives. Congress proposes and ratifies bills, passing them into law for the President to sign and enforce.
The Judicial Branch consists of the Federal Supreme Court, Federal Appellate Courts, and Federal Circuit Courts and is tasked with interpreting the Constitution and trying major crimes that fall outside of state or local jurisdiction.

Majority/State Religion : Protestant Christianity
Religious Description : Southern Baptist Christianity. Look it up. I don't know anything about it, I'm not Baptist.

Economic Ideologies : Laissez faire capitalism
Major Production : 47% agricultural (hogs, cattle, sheep, cotton, tobacco, sugarcane) 53% industrial (iron, steel, firearms, ships, textiles)
Economic Description : The Confederate economy is a capitalist economy with substantial agriculture and industry. There is also substantial income inequality, with virtually all of the wealth held by the white population due to the racist apartheid policies adopted by the government in 1895.


Tech Level: 8 (I am assuming that, by bleeding edge of technology, you mean EXTREMELY primitive self-loading rifles, Maxim gun variations, early dreadnoughts, Wright Flyer, primitive autocars, etc.)

Army Strength : The Confederate Army is large, well equipped, and well trained, with much of its military power based on the border with the UKA and the Aztecs.
Army Weakness : The Confederate Army is led by a large number of generals trained during the 1870s and 1880s and as such are often needlessly risked forming antiquated line formations. However, studies of new machine guns are gradually leading to the reform of the Army's tactics and organization.
Naval Strength : The Confederate Navy boasts a powerful and modern surface fleet, with numerous large capital ships, including more than 40 battleships.
Naval Weakness : The Confederate Navy lacks a substantial submarine force, limiting their ability to interdict enemy shipping.
Further Military Description : The Confederate Army has 10 Cavalry Divisions, 94 Infantry Divisions, 31 Independent Brigades, 19 Coastal Artillery Battalions, and 10 major coastal forts, with numerous forts strung along the border with the Aztecs and the UKA. The Majority of the Infantry divisions are reserve formations or are kept under strength to free up manpower. During peacetime, the Confederacy relies largely on their Independent Brigades for rapid response to crises.
A Cavalry Division has a total of 9,216 men, 9,518 horses, 448 wagons, 430 bicycles, 24 76.2mm guns, and 24 Tredegar Machine Guns. These are allocated to a headquarters company of 96 men, 4 cavalry regiments of 1,718 men each, 4 artillery batteries of 420 men each, 191 men in a Field Engineers Company, 206 men in a Signal Engineers Company, 26 men in a quartermasters section, and 4 field ambulances with 124 men each.
A typical infantry division consists of 18,000 men, 4,600 horses, 24 machine guns, and 72 field guns. The division has two Infantry Brigades of 6,780 men each, each with two Infantry Regiments of 3,390 men, consisting of three infantry battalions and a machine gun company of 150 men each, an artillery brigade with two artillery regiments of two artillery battalions, a cavalry squadron, engineer company, medical battalion, signal company, and quartermasters battalion.

The Confederate Navy boasts an impressive fleet with 35 Battleships, 11 Battlecruisers, 4 Armored Cruisers, 37 Light Cruisers, 3 Protected Cruisers, 160 Destroyers and flotilla leaders, and 14 submarines in the Atlantic Fleet. The Caribbean Fleet boasted an addition 18 Battleships, 5 Battlecruisers, 14 Light Cruisers, 60 Destroyers and Flotilla Leaders, and 25 Submarines. The River Fleet boasted 44 Torpedo Boats and 58 River Monitors.

National Goals : To reclaim Virginia from UKA (peacefully if possible), to capture Louisiana and Texas to exploit their resources
National Issues : Race Relations (not that the government will ever admit that), Income inequality (not that the government is likely to admit it)
National Figures of Interest : Major General Jeffery T. Graves, Senator Timothy W. Wing, Marvin Tredegar, Rigel Goldberg
National Ambition/Aspirations : To become the most powerful nation in North America

History : In 1785, the states of South Carolina, Georgia, North Carolina, and Virginia seceded from the United Kingdom of America, forming the Confederate States of America. Over the next several decades, the Confederacy would expand, adopting a constitution that gave broad powers to the Federal Government but also gave more specific powers to the states. Negotiations with the UKA in the hopes of a peaceful resolution, though continuous, were ultimately fruitless.

Events came to a head in 1836 when, concerned about the potential expansion of slavery and finally given an excuse to punish the South, the UKA invaded Virginia. In the bloody four year war that followed, Richmond and Petersburg burned as did Baltimore and Harrisburg. In the end the UKA had claimed large territories from the Indigenas to the west and the state of Virginia, in reparation from the South. The peace with the CSA was formalised with the Armistice of Appomattox in 1840.

In 1860, bitter after the defeat in the Virginia War, the CSA launched a brutal surprise attack into Virginia with the aim of retaking it. A Confederate Army of 140,000 men entered Virginia and began the brutal task of retaking the homeland of some of the Confederacy’s greatest military leaders. The Army was led by the now 53 year old Army Officer Robert Edward Lee, who succeeded in handing the UKA some rather sound defeats. The Second Virginia War lasted for five long years and killed some 700,000 men. The war left Virginia in a sorry state and still in UKA hands.

During the First and Second Virginia Wars, the CSA attempted to gain a position of advantage in Missouri. The Confederate Army was larger but proved ineffective against the loose order tactics of Missouri's Republican Guard. Developed from the hunting strategies of local Indian tribes, the MRG was able to make use of the Confederate Army's line battle tactics against them, inflicting heavy casualties and many embarrassments in the First Virginia War. However, during the Second Virginia War, the Confederate Army made use of looser formations, smaller units, and deployed more cavalry troops. The Army swept through Missouri, defeating MRG forces in multiple engagements. Unfortunately, defeats in Virginia would end the chances of a Confederate annexation of Missouri. The border with Missouri remains a hotly contested region as fleeing Africans attempt to hop the border for the freedom offered by Missouri.

After the War, the Confederacy began the laborious three decade process of rebuilding and growing its economy. The loss of the Northern Factories forced the South to build more factories and shipyards, a process taking the better part of the next twenty five years. During this time, additional economic pressure from Europe forced the Confederate Government to free the African slaves from bondage in 1890. However, the Confederate Government did not enforce the emancipation and so many African-Americans remained enslaved in all but name. The former slaves were not granted citizenship and, as such, were unable to vote and, in many districts, were denied many basic constitutional rights, such as assembly, association, and even trial by jury.

The situation of African-Americans in the Confederacy has not improved much in recent years, though one could argue quite well that their situation hasn’t improved at all, however the economic situation of the Confederacy itself has never been better. The economy is on the rise, with a Gross Domestic Product of approximately $100 billion, or $3.4 trillion in 2016 dollars, up from $42 billion in 1890.
(This is a collaboration Cymrea so it may or may not receive alterations. I will be speaking with him about it.)

RP SAMPLE:

Vienna, 1870
Franz Joseph walked through the halls of his palace, contemplating the place that Austria would hold in the world. Recent years had seen the Army improve itself, quite well, in fact, from a second rate force to one of the best in Europe. At least that's what he thought. There was only one way to know for sure and that was to bleed the army. Italy would be a perfect target for his expansion. The northern coast would offer excellent ports, where he could finally build the navy he had always dreamed of. A navy that would be unrivaled in the Mediterranean. The invasion would be given to a relatively young cavalry officer, General Vilém Černý. Only 54, he had distinguished himself in several border clashes with the Poles. His use of infantry in loose formations rather than thick lines had proven quite effective. Now appeared the perfect time to strike Italy.

Vilém Černý read the telegram from King Joseph three times to be sure of his orders. He was to march 50,000 men, one third of the Imperial Army, into Northern Italy in a bid to seize the ports of Venice and Trieste. He would need to be quite cunning in order to accomplish it. The Italians outnumbered him 4 to 1 and if they bogged him down in a head-to-head fight, his chances were slim. His attack would have to be swift and decisive. He ordered one division, some 18,000 men, to march for Bolzano Bozen in a feint maneuver, making as much ruckus as possible, while he took the rest of the army, very quietly, to Trieste. When he reached Trieste, he would send a rider back to the feinting force, ordering them to make silent haste to Trieste, withdrawing by night. There was a great deal that could go wrong here and so much more to plan, but it was a good start.

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[Tracian Empire]

What I can say is that the OP board has come to the agreement that the CSA simply can not have the technological and industrial level described in the app, especially considering its regional circumstances and its historical position as a major agrarian state until at least the early 1860's in real life.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

I still exist!

[The Manticoran Empire]

What I can say is that the OP board has come to the agreement that the CSA simply can not have the technological and industrial level described in the app, especially considering its regional circumstances and its historical position as a major agrarian state until at least the early 1860's in real life.

OK.

[RNT]

Full Nation Name : United Kingdom of The Netherlands
Majority/Official Culture : Dutch
Territorial Core : Belgium Netherlands
Territorial Claim : South Africa and Madagascar, and scattered Trading ports through the Indies
Capital City : Amsterdam, Netherlands
Population : 16 million

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Imperialist
Government Focus : The current Governments primary focus is on keeping the country united, but in so they have focused on military might to keep it united. The belief is that a stronger military will not only protect the union from outside threats but internal threats as well. The focus on the military has been on modernization and training, rather than mass conscription.
Head of State :
King William I
Head of Government :
King William I
Government Description :
The king is much more powerful than a traditional constitutional monarchy and is the head of state and government, although he has eight ministers that advise him. The legislative duties fall to the States General which consists of two houses. These being the First Chamber which is appointed by the king and consists of old and new nobles. The other is the Second Chamber which consists of elected members from each province. There are 100 members in total and each province elects as many members as it has a percentage of the population. So if Limburg makes up 12% of the countries population it elects 12 members. In the case of decimal percentages they are rounded off prior to voting, if the elected members would not reach 100 the king would appoint the remaining members.

Majority/State Religion : Protestant Christianity
Religious Description : Same as IRL

Economic Ideologies : Capitalism and Mercantilism
Major Production : Industrial Goods, Iron, Steel, Wood, and Guns
Economic Description : The Economy relies heavily on there industrial capabilities to manufacture goods from imported raw materials. However there is also an efficient market in trading goods and merchants are extremely important to the economy, The Dutch East India Trading company is one of the more powerful trading companies and provides a lot to the economy.


Tech Level: 8.5

Army Strength : Highly trained and very modern
Army Weakness : Not huge in numbers compared to many other European countries
Naval Strength : Very modern fast ships
Naval Weakness : Not very many Big ships and not a lot of guns on smaller ships
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals : To Remain United, and grow a larger trade base.
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]] Greater control over colonies and control over the provinces in the mainland to put down any Separatist movements.
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]]
Leopold II - Founder of FN Herstal one of the largest gun manufacturers in Europe
National Ambition/Aspirations : N/a

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]
RP Sample: [[Either a link to a past post, or an example written right here.]]

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WIP

[RNT]

Guidance Application

Guidance Name :
The Mediterranean Crisis
Guidance Description : Due to many conflicting nations in the Mediterranean and multiple wars the Mediterranean has become notorious for Pirates. This high presence of pirates has caused many problems in Mediterranean trade and impacted ports in the Mediterranean. These roving bands of pirates has caused many to stop trading in the Mediterranean. Not only pirates but nations pirating from rival nations as well contributed to this lawlessness of the seas. Due to this All European nations with ports not in the Mediterranean grew faster, became wealthier, industrialized faster, and were all around stronger than those with ports in the Mediterranean due to ease of trade which also spread ideas faster.
Affected Area :
Nations bordering the Mediterranean Sea [/box][/td][/tr][/table]


Not sure if this is even acceptable but figured I would give these guidences a shot.

[Tracian Empire]

Guidance Application

Guidance Name :
The Mediterranean Crisis
Guidance Description : Due to many conflicting nations in the Mediterranean and multiple wars the Mediterranean has become notorious for Pirates. This high presence of pirates has caused many problems in Mediterranean trade and impacted ports in the Mediterranean. These roving bands of pirates has caused many to stop trading in the Mediterranean. Not only pirates but nations pirating from rival nations as well contributed to this lawlessness of the seas. Due to this All European nations with ports not in the Mediterranean grew faster, became wealthier, industrialized faster, and were all around stronger than those with ports in the Mediterranean due to ease of trade which also spread ideas faster.
Affected Area :
Nations bordering the Mediterranean Sea [/box][/td][/tr][/table]


Not sure if this is even acceptable but figured I would give these guidences a shot.

This guidance makes no sense and it contradicts with various player histories.

[Rygondria]

So am i going to have to collaborate with anyone when it comes to my history or no ?

[RNT]

Guidance Application

Guidance Name :
The Mediterranean Crisis
Guidance Description : Due to many conflicting nations in the Mediterranean and multiple wars the Mediterranean has become notorious for Pirates. This high presence of pirates has caused many problems in Mediterranean trade and impacted ports in the Mediterranean. These roving bands of pirates has caused many to stop trading in the Mediterranean. Not only pirates but nations pirating from rival nations as well contributed to this lawlessness of the seas. Due to this All European nations with ports not in the Mediterranean grew faster, became wealthier, industrialized faster, and were all around stronger than those with ports in the Mediterranean due to ease of trade which also spread ideas faster.
Affected Area :
Nations bordering the Mediterranean Sea [/box][/td][/tr][/table]


Not sure if this is even acceptable but figured I would give these guidences a shot.

This guidance makes no sense and it contradicts with various player histories.

Oh well then just ignore it.

Is my app any good?

[Aellex]

This guidance makes no sense and it contradicts with various player histories.

To be fair, the Islamic invasions cutting off the commerce with the East and transforming the Mediterranean Sea from a peaceful one to one riddled with piracy was the main reason behind the rise of Feudalism in Europe and the absolute shitshow that was the Era of the territorial Princes; the Crusades lessened that problem but it was only with the discovery of America and its gold mines that Europe really became prosperous again.
So, I mean, it actually kinda makes sense to some extent but given that the Romans maintained control over most of their land, it's true however that it's quite unrealistic to say the least.

[Rygondria]

So i had an idea for a silk road style guidance but from the sea where Indian Treasure fleets (Think trading vessels escorted via warships) Discovered the cape of good hope and used it to get to Europe without using the red sea and thus Egypt, maybe starting around the height of roman power ?

[Tracian Empire]

This guidance makes no sense and it contradicts with various player histories.

To be fair, the Islamic invasions cutting off the commerce with the East and transforming the Mediterranean Sea from a peaceful one to one riddled with piracy was the main reason behind the rise of Feudalism in Europe and the absolute shitshow that was the Era of the territorial Princes; the Crusades lessened that problem but it was only with the discovery of America and its gold mines that Europe really became prosperous again.
So, I mean, it actually kinda makes sense to some extent but given that the Romans maintained control over most of their land, it's true however that it's quite unrealistic to say the least.

The problem isn't necessary with the basic idea, because we literally had that happen in the past. The RP started in ~1850 with its first iteration, and we had multiple piracy events, where we cleaned up piracy. But the guidance itself is filled with problems.

[Tracian Empire]

So i had an idea for a silk road style guidance but from the sea where Indian Treasure fleets (Think trading vessels escorted via warships) Discovered the cape of good hope and used it to get to Europe without using the red sea and thus Egypt, maybe starting around the height of roman power ?

How would that guidance affect the world? That's the main idea behind guidances. They have to affect entire regions or the world in order to be good.

[Aellex]

Also, just to be sure, the Panama canal isn't built yet, right?

[Tracian Empire]

Also, just to be sure, the Panama canal isn't built yet, right?

It depends on the Aztec history, but most likely it's not finished yet.

[Rygondria]

So i had an idea for a silk road style guidance but from the sea where Indian Treasure fleets (Think trading vessels escorted via warships) Discovered the cape of good hope and used it to get to Europe without using the red sea and thus Egypt, maybe starting around the height of roman power ?

How would that guidance affect the world? That's the main idea behind guidances. They have to affect entire regions or the world in order to be good.

Yeah, yeah maybe something about Greek culture melding with Indian culture and possibly spreading across south east Asia might be a better alternative, since the tamali kings did bring Hinduism and India culture across that area, and what would stop the old emperors from limiting their conquests to India, hell might even reach to spice islands. a Greek India would probably change a large amount of the culture in the area. and i would assume that Islam never had a large influence as it did in reality in Indonesia for all we know their could be Hellenic hindu temples in the area.