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Oscalantine wrote:

Tracian Empire wrote:You can certainly trade. But I must protect my trade too, right?

So we can certainly have fair trade, I just don't want to see Korea turning into a greedy Venice and hurting Rome and Persia's trade xD

Contrary to popular belief, Imperial Korea in AD never had mercantilism. So no, unless Roman and Persian merchants are incompetent, I doubt they would be hurt from trade.

Kievan Rus Republic wrote:That's...that's a huge ass territory you have there.

In an absolute terms... yes, it kind of is. Korea was a superpower in the region that had plenty of allies and even more enemies.

In a relative terms... other nations had equally large empires. Just that Korea had more focal interest in keeping Southeast Asia their's and didn't want Europeans to have more than they already "ruined," so it fought with arms and legs for that. Other powers had their colonies spread out, but ultimately they had colonies just as large ^^

Yeah, which is why everything will depend on our new policy regarding colonies.

Oscalantine wrote:

Tracian Empire wrote:You can certainly trade. But I must protect my trade too, right?

So we can certainly have fair trade, I just don't want to see Korea turning into a greedy Venice and hurting Rome and Persia's trade xD

Contrary to popular belief, Imperial Korea in AD never had mercantilism. So no, unless Roman and Persian merchants are incompetent, I doubt they would be hurt from trade.

Kievan Rus Republic wrote:That's...that's a huge ass territory you have there.

In an absolute terms... yes, it kind of is. Korea was a superpower in the region that had plenty of allies and even more enemies.

In a relative terms... other nations had equally large empires. Just that Korea had more focal interest in keeping Southeast Asia their's and didn't want Europeans to have more than they already "ruined," so it fought with arms and legs for that. Other powers had their colonies spread out, but ultimately they had colonies just as large ^^

I see...

Also just a suggestion, you may wanted to create a discord for this. I stalked previous OOC and it's...well it have a lot of pages.

Kievan Rus Republic wrote:

Oscalantine wrote:
Contrary to popular belief, Imperial Korea in AD never had mercantilism. So no, unless Roman and Persian merchants are incompetent, I doubt they would be hurt from trade.



In an absolute terms... yes, it kind of is. Korea was a superpower in the region that had plenty of allies and even more enemies.

In a relative terms... other nations had equally large empires. Just that Korea had more focal interest in keeping Southeast Asia their's and didn't want Europeans to have more than they already "ruined," so it fought with arms and legs for that. Other powers had their colonies spread out, but ultimately they had colonies just as large ^^

I see...

Also just a suggestion, you may wanted to create a discord for this. I stalked previous OOC and it's...well it have a lot of pages.

We have considered it, but Discord chats tend to kill OOC's, and not everyone has a Discord account.

So, this is a sequel of the two previous Alternate Divergence, yes?

Will you please tell me what happen to Russia in this timeline? Because I'm also planning to play as a "New" Russian state outside Russia.

Because Imperial Georgia and Novorossiya in North American West Coast is what I'm planning to play since Trebizond is no more like what Tracian said and it seems the Philippines is colonised by Koreans but I need to know Russia's perspective first so that I could decide which one to play.

The New Byzantine II wrote:So, this is a sequel of the two previous Alternate Divergence, yes?

Will you please tell me what happen to Russia in this timeline? Because I'm also planning to play as a "New" Russian state outside Russia.

Because Imperial Georgia and Novorossiya in North American West Coast is what I'm planning to play since Trebizond is no more like what Tracian said and it seems the Philippines is colonised by Koreans but I need to know Russia's perspective first so that I could decide which one to play.

Not necessarily a sequel, more like a spin off. We're starting with a clean plate, even if old players are bringing back their old nations, but as of now, there is no Russia. There is a player who has expressed an interest in creating a state in northern Russia - Novgorod and Arkhangelsk, but without any details. It also seems unlikely that Sanabel will return with his Novgorod Russia. So for now, there is no history for Russia.

I mean, if you really want it, I could perhaps allow you to play Trebizond, but it would be uncomfortable for us. You'd be small and sandwiched between Rome and the Persian allies, and I'm not feeling all that well about allowing a state that would be like a spear piercing my Asia Minor

So Georgia and something like Novorossiya would indeed be the best.

Tracian Empire wrote:

The New Byzantine II wrote:So, this is a sequel of the two previous Alternate Divergence, yes?

Will you please tell me what happen to Russia in this timeline? Because I'm also planning to play as a "New" Russian state outside Russia.

Because Imperial Georgia and Novorossiya in North American West Coast is what I'm planning to play since Trebizond is no more like what Tracian said and it seems the Philippines is colonised by Koreans but I need to know Russia's perspective first so that I could decide which one to play.

Not necessarily a sequel, more like a spin off. We're starting with a clean plate, even if old players are bringing back their old nations, but as of now, there is no Russia. There is a player who has expressed an interest in creating a state in northern Russia - Novgorod and Arkhangelsk, but without any details. It also seems unlikely that Sanabel will return with his Novgorod Russia. So for now, there is no history for Russia.

I mean, if you really want it, I could perhaps allow you to play Trebizond, but it would be uncomfortable for us. You'd be small and sandwiched between Rome and the Persian allies, and I'm not feeling all that well about allowing a state that would be like a spear piercing my Asia Minor

So Georgia and something like Novorossiya would indeed be the best.

Really?

I change my interest, Novgorod SSR sounds way more tempting now than Ming...

Kievan Rus Republic wrote:Really?

I change my interest, Novgorod SSR sounds way more tempting now than Ming...

You mean, the Novgorod Republic?

I intend to play Scandinavia, and the Baltic States/Karelia has always been a touchy problem border area, so things could get interesting...

Alright, now that we're a bit further, are any of these areas already claimed?

Jerusalem
Cyprus, Malta, Rhodes, Corfu
South Africa
Mecca and Medina
Colombia, Venezuela

Kievan Rus Republic wrote:

Tracian Empire wrote:Not necessarily a sequel, more like a spin off. We're starting with a clean plate, even if old players are bringing back their old nations, but as of now, there is no Russia. There is a player who has expressed an interest in creating a state in northern Russia - Novgorod and Arkhangelsk, but without any details. It also seems unlikely that Sanabel will return with his Novgorod Russia. So for now, there is no history for Russia.

I mean, if you really want it, I could perhaps allow you to play Trebizond, but it would be uncomfortable for us. You'd be small and sandwiched between Rome and the Persian allies, and I'm not feeling all that well about allowing a state that would be like a spear piercing my Asia Minor

So Georgia and something like Novorossiya would indeed be the best.

Really?

I change my interest, Novgorod SSR sounds way more tempting now than Ming...

Ugh..

I just said that there was a player interested in playing something in northern Russia, Novgorod, Archangelsk and the region around Moscow.

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Alright, now that we're a bit further, are any of these areas already claimed?

Jerusalem
Cyprus, Malta, Rhodes, Corfu
South Africa
Mecca and Medina
Colombia, Venezuela

Jerusalem, Cyprus, Malta, Rhodes, and Corfu are all part of the Roman Empire.

Mecca and Medina are free, South Africa should also be free, Colombia and Venezuela might be claimed by the Aztecs.

And also, we know that communist nations are popular in AH situations, and we know that we are in 1900, but still, we need to consider the fact that most governments around here would fight against communism.

So any commie nations will require a rock solid alternate history behind them.

Tracian Empire wrote:

Kievan Rus Republic wrote:Really?

I change my interest, Novgorod SSR sounds way more tempting now than Ming...

Ugh..

I just said that there was a player interested in playing something in northern Russia, Novgorod, Archangelsk and the region around Moscow.

Ah right, didn't catch that lmao. Sorry, that was on me.

Hmm, maybe Tsardom of Kazan then. Yeah, that's it.

Kievan Rus Republic wrote:

Tracian Empire wrote:Ugh..

I just said that there was a player interested in playing something in northern Russia, Novgorod, Archangelsk and the region around Moscow.

Ah right, didn't catch that lmao. Sorry, that was on me.

Hmm, maybe Tsardom of Kazan then. Yeah, that's it.

Kazan should be free.

Although, I'd recommend something Tatar there.

So. I voiced my humble interest in southern China back on page 4 of the OoC. Does this conflict with anyone else's ideas? If so, let's talk. I try to at least pretend I'm agreeable.

Olthenia wrote:So. I voiced my humble interest in southern China back on page 4 of the OoC. Does this conflict with anyone else's ideas? If so, let's talk. I try to at least pretend I'm agreeable.

There are indeed multiple people who seem to be interested in Southern China.

Tracian Empire wrote:

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Alright, now that we're a bit further, are any of these areas already claimed?

Jerusalem
Cyprus, Malta, Rhodes, Corfu
South Africa
Mecca and Medina
Colombia, Venezuela

Jerusalem, Cyprus, Malta, Rhodes, and Corfu are all part of the Roman Empire.

Mecca and Medina are free, South Africa should also be free, Colombia and Venezuela might be claimed by the Aztecs.

Oh, and Ukraine?

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:

Tracian Empire wrote:Jerusalem, Cyprus, Malta, Rhodes, and Corfu are all part of the Roman Empire.

Mecca and Medina are free, South Africa should also be free, Colombia and Venezuela might be claimed by the Aztecs.

Oh, and Ukraine?

A player expressed interest in taking the western bank of the Dniepr, but then again, he also has Czechoslovakia, so I'm inclined towards only giving him land up till the Teteriv.

And Crimea/Taurica is Roman.

Tracian Empire wrote:

Kievan Rus Republic wrote:Ah right, didn't catch that lmao. Sorry, that was on me.

Hmm, maybe Tsardom of Kazan then. Yeah, that's it.

Kazan should be free.

Although, I'd recommend something Tatar there.

Noted, I will see how the Novgorod thing going to be first.

What's the status of Thailand?

Togeria wrote:What's the status of Thailand?

Theoretically, it is supposed to be a colony of Korea, but then again, I'd personally be in the favor of more player claims over colonial claims.

If it's a colony than I'll just leave it like that. If no one ends up grabbing it I will.

Tracian Empire wrote:-snip-

Is my core region likely to be challenged by any of the OP board members?

Plzen wrote:

Tracian Empire wrote:-snip-

Is my core region likely to be challenged by any of the OP board members?

I believe that the southern tip of Sweden might be included in the Hanseatic reservation.

Tracian Empire wrote:

Plzen wrote:Is my core region likely to be challenged by any of the OP board members?

I believe that the southern tip of Sweden might be included in the Hanseatic reservation.

Ah, that could certainly be a source of considerable diplomatic tensions.

If there is a German outpost in Skåne (and a Hanseatic port will be seen as a German outpost, no matter what it does), that could be a great boon to Scandinavian nationalism. Normally when I apply for Scandinavia I apply as some kind of a left-leaning social-democratic state, but a national-revanchist, autocratic Scandinavia could be interesting to roleplay as well. I certainly look forwards to it.

Scandinavia shall drown its national humiliation in the blood and tears of foreign oppressors!

Is there an expected date-of-arrival for the proper OOC thread?

Plzen wrote:

Tracian Empire wrote:I believe that the southern tip of Sweden might be included in the Hanseatic reservation.

Ah, that could certainly be a source of considerable diplomatic tensions.

If there is a German outpost in Skåne (and a Hanseatic port will be seen as a German outpost, no matter what it does), that could be a great boon to Scandinavian nationalism. Normally when I apply for Scandinavia I apply as some kind of a left-leaning social-democratic state, but a national-revanchist, autocratic Scandinavia could be interesting to roleplay as well. I certainly look forwards to it.

Scandinavia shall drown its national humiliation in the blood and tears of foreign oppressors!

Is there an expected date-of-arrival for the proper OOC thread?

My personal goal is to have it up before the end of the week, but that depends on how fast we can finally put up the reservations.