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Postby Dentali » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:48 pm

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April 1, 2017

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"All right." Cal replied, leaning against the desk. "First, before we start, have you been able to speak with Rossi yet?"


"No I haven't, I wanted to know what to tell her regarding Oberfell first."
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Postby Prolieum » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:08 pm

April 1, 2017

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Cal put up his hands behind his head, interlocking his fingers, frustrated. "Why is that a holdup? Or how?"
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Cal put up his hands behind his head, interlocking his fingers, frustrated. "Why is that a holdup? Or how?"



"Because POMA is going to be a massive issue should it pass, it will cause a constitutional crisis regarding the power of the court. Mr. President you may be able to appoint more supreme court justices than any other President, if we allow a law that undermines the authority of the court on of your most lasting contributions could be undermined."

"Also it calls into question other supreme court cases regarding marriage, like Loving which was decided along the exact same lines as Oberfell."

"Additionally POMA passing the Senate puts our majority in jeopardy, more than anything else passed so far this session. Only 5 states have a majority population that opposes gay marriage, the swing in public opinion over the past decade is incredible and shows no signs of slowing down. I've spoken with pollsters, even in states that are borderline on the issue of gay marriage we are seeing a minimum 5 point swing against republicans on the generic ballot."

"We cannot let it pass the house, I recommend we have the Speaker find some way to table the thing so it doesn't come to a vote. If it passes the house and you sign it, we lose a significant advantage and potentially unite the fractured left and the center around the issue, not to mention the 2020 implications. We lose the momentum on social issues we need to tackle abortion, which is something we can make a lasting impact on. Any law restricting Gay Marriage we pass will last 2 or 3 election cycles at most depending on if the left reunites."

"If we want to overturn Oberfell on the basis of states rights we can do that, as I said you will have more court appointees than almost any other President. It would be a simple thing to have a case similar to Oberfell hit the bench and then have it overturned. Mr. President I need to be able to ask Rossi about this in our meeting to make sure she agrees with the White House."
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Postby Prolieum » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:14 pm

April 1, 2017

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"We should have had this sorted before we needed to have this conversation about POMA. Weeks, we lost weeks on the nomination." Cal muttered, shaking his head in annoyance. "We'd already talked about the protocol for this meeting a month ago."
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Postby Dentali » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:24 pm

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"We should have had this sorted before we needed to have this conversation about POMA. Weeks, we lost weeks on the nomination." Cal muttered, shaking his head in annoyance. "We'd already talked about the protocol for this meeting a month ago."



"Sir?" Simon says a bit confused
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Postby Prolieum » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:26 pm

April 1, 2017

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"Rossi, meeting with her, getting set for the nomination. We already talked over the protocol for that." Cal clarified.
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Postby Dentali » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:05 pm

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"Rossi, meeting with her, getting set for the nomination. We already talked over the protocol for that." Cal clarified.



“Sir I have a meeting with her tomorrow, but we need to talk while the VP is here” Simon says turning to Havich “and this will be a major factor in the nomination, I can’t have a meeting with her if we don’t have an answer on POMA.”
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Postby Prolieum » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:08 pm

April 1, 2017

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Cal brushed his cap up with his hand. "We're completely backwards now. We can't get to an answer on POMA if we don't have the Court nomination squared away."
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Postby Dentali » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:15 pm

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Cal brushed his cap up with his hand. "We're completely backwards now. We can't get to an answer on POMA if we don't have the Court nomination squared away."



“Sir I’m sorry but I disagree, I get calls daily from congress on POMA wanting to know the white houses position, we have more time on the Supreme Court nomination, 2018. We can only hold off the POMA vote so long.”
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Postby Prolieum » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:18 pm

April 1, 2017

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"The Court nomination was a priority. I laid it out as a priority. A time-sensitive priority. There was ample time to get it done, and we screwed that. Now it can't be our only focus, now we have a budget to handle, but while we're setting that up to send to the House, getting set up to send her, or whoever we have if its not her, to the Senate is our priority." Cal said, voice irritated but firm.
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Postby Dentali » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:21 pm

Prolieum wrote:
April 1, 2017

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"The Court nomination was a priority. I laid it out as a priority. A time-sensitive priority. There was ample time to get it done, and we screwed that. Now it can't be our only focus, now we have a budget to handle, but while we're setting that up to send to the House, getting set up to send her, or whoever we have if its not her, to the Senate is our priority." Cal said, voice irritated but firm.



“Sir I have a meeting tomorrow, I scheduled as soon as I could. Why is the Supreme Court nomination so time sensitive?”
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Postby Prolieum » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:27 pm

April 1, 2017

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"Because the nomination process takes months. It was an absolute miracle that Alphonsey, of all people, rushed our last pick through, we can't rely on that to happen again. You yourself said we can only hold off the POMA vote for so long, you talked about all the problems with it. That's why we needed to use these last weeks eating up time on the nomination, instead of starting now, on the back foot." Cal explained.
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Postby Dentali » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:16 am

Prolieum wrote:
April 1, 2017

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"Because the nomination process takes months. It was an absolute miracle that Alphonsey, of all people, rushed our last pick through, we can't rely on that to happen again. You yourself said we can only hold off the POMA vote for so long, you talked about all the problems with it. That's why we needed to use these last weeks eating up time on the nomination, instead of starting now, on the back foot." Cal explained.



"It was a miracle because Winslow is a completely ineffective leader. I need to know what to ask Rossi on Oberfell v. Hodges before I can meet her because it is going to come up. Sir please I need to know the stance of the White House so I can be certain Rossi is a good pick. I will meet with her tomorrow and I will rush her hearing through, she will be in front of the Senate by the end of the month."
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:27 am

April 1, 2017

Roosevelt Room


Cal fumed, but didn't repeat the issue.

"I don't know when that hasn't been clear. Obergefell was a massive infringement on state's rights. The Constitutional answer is to overturn it."
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Postby Dentali » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:19 am

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Cal fumed, but didn't repeat the issue.

"I don't know when that hasn't been clear. Obergefell was a massive infringement on state's rights. The Constitutional answer is to overturn it."



"So should I tell the speaker to kill POMA and leave it to the new supreme court appointees?"
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:24 am

April 1, 2017

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"Until we know the situation on the next justice, we're not going to make a decision only to have to backtrack," Cal answered.
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Postby Dentali » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:29 am

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"Until we know the situation on the next justice, we're not going to make a decision only to have to backtrack," Cal answered.



"Theoretically if Rossi tells me she won't overturn Obergefell should we proceed with the nomination?"
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:32 am

April 1, 2017

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Cal sighed, and put his hands on the table. "I'm still leery of asking directly. We'd talked about the whole protocol expectations about this," he noted, waving his hand to demonstrate the vagueness of the concept.
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Postby Dentali » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:55 am

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Cal sighed, and put his hands on the table. "I'm still leery of asking directly. We'd talked about the whole protocol expectations about this," he noted, waving his hand to demonstrate the vagueness of the concept.



Frustrated but acknowledging he was not going to get the answer he wanted, Simon turned to Havich, "Mr. Vice President, do you have any input?"
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Postby Tumblrena » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:38 pm

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Buck had been looking out the window looking like he was lost in thought but he answers the question without a pause without turning his head. "Well since we've gone this long without a statement a little longer won't hurt us."

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Postby Prolieum » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:29 am

April 1, 2017

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"Then let's make sure we get it done. I've already talked to Winslow on this. While Boyd does her part in hammering out the tax plan, we'll make sure that we're set to go here," Cal stated.
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:46 am

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"Then let's make sure we get it done. I've already talked to Winslow on this. While Boyd does her part in hammering out the tax plan, we'll make sure that we're set to go here," Cal stated.



"Alright" Simon says "Should Rossi want it she will be in front of the Senate by the end of the month"
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Postby Prolieum » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:39 am

April 1, 2017

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Cal nodded. "Anything else to report?"
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Postby Dentali » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:06 am

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Cal nodded. "Anything else to report?"



"No Sir" Simon said "I'll keep you appraised on Rossi, fair warning I'm going to give her the third degree and make sure she can take the pressure of the Senate."
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Postby Tumblrena » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:27 am

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"I don't know about that" Buck says.

"If you put on on too much pressure now she would be closer to cracking then. Try a soft touch" he suggests.

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