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Postby Prolieum » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:36 pm

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"It's just not rewarding a state that imposes an ideology in its teaching." Amaras explained, somewhat more tersely. "We should not be sending taxpayer dollars to promote closed and dogmatic education that refuses to give students a choice or multiple options, even those that most people agree on."
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:22 pm

Brankers:

"I move to call the previous question."

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Postby Vaquas » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:30 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Brankers:

"I move to call the previous question."


Senator Breckenridge: "I object"
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Postby Vaquas » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:41 pm

Senator Locklear: I motion to amend the bill and put it forward as follows.

Official Name: Education Equality, Fairness, Nondiscrimination and Equal Treatment Act
Nickname: EEFENTA


Overview: Dissuades against discrimination in public education relating to science.

Section 1: Hereby recognizes that the vast majority of Americans favor equal treatment in science education.

Section 2: Hereby allows for the teaching of the theory of Intelligent Design in equal time and with equal treatment as teaching of naturalistic evolution.

Section 3: Hereby establishes that states shall retain the power to legally disallow the teaching of Intelligent Design alongside Naturalistic Evolution in public schools with related state legislation.

Section 4: Hereby mandates that this legislation shall enter into effect at the start of Fiscal Year 2018.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:43 pm

Vaquas wrote:Senator Locklear: I motion to amend the bill and put it forward as follows.

Official Name: Education Equality, Fairness, Nondiscrimination and Equal Treatment Act
Nickname: EEFENTA


Overview: Dissuades against discrimination in public education relating to science.

Section 1: Hereby recognizes that the vast majority of Americans favor equal treatment in science education.

Section 2: Hereby allows for the teaching of the theory of Intelligent Design in equal time and with equal treatment as teaching of naturalistic evolution.

Section 3: Hereby establishes that states shall retain the power to legally disallow the teaching of Intelligent Design alongside Naturalistic Evolution in public schools with related state legislation.

Section 4: Hereby mandates that this legislation shall enter into effect at the start of Fiscal Year 2018.


Brankers:
"I second the amendment."

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Postby Dentali » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:34 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Vaquas wrote:Senator Locklear: I motion to amend the bill and put it forward as follows.

Official Name: Education Equality, Fairness, Nondiscrimination and Equal Treatment Act
Nickname: EEFENTA


Overview: Dissuades against discrimination in public education relating to science.

Section 1: Hereby recognizes that the vast majority of Americans favor equal treatment in science education.

Section 2: Hereby allows for the teaching of the theory of Intelligent Design in equal time and with equal treatment as teaching of naturalistic evolution.

Section 3: Hereby establishes that states shall retain the power to legally disallow the teaching of Intelligent Design alongside Naturalistic Evolution in public schools with related state legislation.

Section 4: Hereby mandates that this legislation shall enter into effect at the start of Fiscal Year 2018.


Brankers:
"I second the amendment."


Fowler: “I also support the amendment”
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Postby Prolieum » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:19 am

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"Objection!" Senator Amaras rumbled. "The amendment makes this bill completely powerless. All of us here should be able to agree, no matter what side we are on, that federal taxpayer dollars should not be used to fund indoctrination!"
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Ella decides to make a comment on the raging debate, and stands up somewhat timidly.

"I don't see why we can't just teach all three in schools."

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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:30 am

Prolieum wrote:
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"Objection!" Senator Amaras rumbled. "The amendment makes this bill completely powerless. All of us here should be able to agree, no matter what side we are on, that federal taxpayer dollars should not be used to fund indoctrination!"



"I thought you supported state's rights and decentralized government? I for one don't want more federal control over education, giving states an option represents a move towards federalism and getting the federal government out of our schools."
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Postby Prolieum » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:56 am

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"You're supporting forking over tens of billions of taxpayer dollars to states enforcing indoctrination in their schools. That's not getting the federal government out, Senator Fowler. That's crony capitalism for your favored view of only naturalist evolution indoctrination. This bill at least provides neutrality and equal treatment." Amaras retorted.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:06 am

Prolieum wrote:
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"You're supporting forking over tens of billions of taxpayer dollars to states enforcing indoctrination in their schools. That's not getting the federal government out, Senator Fowler. That's crony capitalism for your favored view of only naturalist evolution indoctrination. This bill at least provides neutrality and equal treatment." Amaras retorted.



"The original bill forces states to teach something, and the amended version gives an option... I have to say the amended version sounds less like indoctrination."
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Postby Prolieum » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:15 am

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"What a grade-A cronyist, saying that not giving tens of billions of taxpayer dollars to his favorite naturalist evolution cronies is "indoctrination" You're so caught up in corruption that you think that neutrality is unfair, because you're so used to a crooked playing field! That's disgusting. Washington animal can't even bear the thought of not paying off his buddies with taxpayer dollars." Amaras attacked.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:37 am

Prolieum wrote:
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"What a grade-A cronyist, saying that not giving tens of billions of taxpayer dollars to his favorite naturalist evolution cronies is "indoctrination" You're so caught up in corruption that you think that neutrality is unfair, because you're so used to a crooked playing field! That's disgusting. Washington animal can't even bear the thought of not paying off his buddies with taxpayer dollars." Amaras attacked.



"I've never heard of the naturalist evolution lobby, are they some new special interest group? How about I believe the courts which have consistently ruled against such measures supporting intelligent design? 92% of all supreme court justices have been Christian, none have been atheist and they have ruled conclusively again and again what you're proposing is unconstitutional. These are the foremost constitutional scholars we have, we should respect their rulings."
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Postby Prolieum » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:41 am

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"The Supreme Court has never ruled on intelligent design, Senator Fowler, so how about you stop lying? You'll do anything to keep the money flowing to naturalist evolutionary indoctrination."
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Postby Tumblrena » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:59 am

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María Antonieta rolls her eyes. "Mr. President I move to close the questioning period so amendments to the bill can actually be in order."

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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:16 am

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"The Supreme Court has never ruled on intelligent design, Senator Fowler, so how about you stop lying? You'll do anything to keep the money flowing to naturalist evolutionary indoctrination."


"In Edwards v. Aguillard," Fowler says reading from material his assistant just handed him "the high court struck down a Louisiana law requiring that schools teach creation science whenever students learn about evolution. The court ruled that the law’s purpose was to promote religion and thus that it violated the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause. Whether you call it creationism or intelligent design, everyone knows what you really mean. And I second the motion to move on to voting on the amendment."
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Postby Prolieum » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:22 am

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"The motion is-"


Amaras responded, loudly, to Fowler.


"I'm sorry Senator, did you say creationism? We're talking about intelligent design. If you're so ignorant about the definitions of the terms, I think you should shut up and let the people talk who know what they're taking about."


The Chair cleared his throat, and spoke again after Amaras had ceased.

"The motion is in order, and does not require a second. Without objection, the questioning period is closed, and the floor opened to motions and debate."

"The Chair would remind the Senators from Iowa, Alaska, and Vermont of the restriction of the questioning period to questions on the part of the body, and answers on the part of the author. All Senators are reminded to display the decorum expected of the members of this chamber."
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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:22 am

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María Antonieta rolls her eyes. "Mr. President I move to close the questioning period so amendments to the bill can actually be in order."


"Seconded"
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Postby Tumblrena » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:25 am

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"Mr. President, I move to amend the bill by the following." María Antonieta speaks up.

Official Name: Education Equality, Fairness, Nondiscrimination and Equal Treatment Act
Nickname: EEFENTA


Overview: Prohibits discrimination in public education relating to science.

Section 1: Recognizing that the vast majority of Americans favor equal treatment in science education and that public education currently discriminates against valid scientific theories agreed on by most Americans, it is necessary to guarantee representative equality and fairness in current education.

Section 2: Establishes as a requirement for direct federal funding to any public educational institution that the institution in teaching biological sciences teach the theory of Intelligent Design in equal time and with equal treatment as teaching of naturalistic evolution.

Section 3: Establishes as a requirement for any federal education grants to states that said state have a similar requirement mandating equal treatment of Intelligent Design with Evolution in the biological sciences in state public schools.

Section 4: Establishes these requirements as effective at the start of Fiscal Year 2018.

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Postby Prolieum » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:28 am

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"Seconded." Amaras shouted out.
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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:28 am

Tumblrena wrote:
Washington D.C.
United States Senate
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Monday
23 January
2017




"Mr. President, I move to amend the bill by the following." María Antonieta speaks up.

Official Name: Education Equality, Fairness, Nondiscrimination and Equal Treatment Act
Nickname: EEFENTA


Overview: Prohibits discrimination in public education relating to science.

Section 1: Recognizing that the vast majority of Americans favor equal treatment in science education and that public education currently discriminates against valid scientific theories agreed on by most Americans, it is necessary to guarantee representative equality and fairness in current education.

Section 2: Establishes as a requirement for direct federal funding to any public educational institution that the institution in teaching biological sciences teach the theory of Intelligent Design in equal time and with equal treatment as teaching of naturalistic evolution.

Section 3: Establishes as a requirement for any federal education grants to states that said state have a similar requirement mandating equal treatment of Intelligent Design with Evolution in the biological sciences in state public schools.

Section 4: Establishes these requirements as effective at the start of Fiscal Year 2018.


Senator Breckenridge: "I object."
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:30 am

Vaquas wrote:
Tumblrena wrote:
Washington D.C.
United States Senate
1110
Monday
23 January
2017




"Mr. President, I move to amend the bill by the following." María Antonieta speaks up.

Official Name: Education Equality, Fairness, Nondiscrimination and Equal Treatment Act
Nickname: EEFENTA


Overview: Prohibits discrimination in public education relating to science.

Section 1: Recognizing that the vast majority of Americans favor equal treatment in science education and that public education currently discriminates against valid scientific theories agreed on by most Americans, it is necessary to guarantee representative equality and fairness in current education.

Section 2: Establishes as a requirement for direct federal funding to any public educational institution that the institution in teaching biological sciences teach the theory of Intelligent Design in equal time and with equal treatment as teaching of naturalistic evolution.

Section 3: Establishes as a requirement for any federal education grants to states that said state have a similar requirement mandating equal treatment of Intelligent Design with Evolution in the biological sciences in state public schools.

Section 4: Establishes these requirements as effective at the start of Fiscal Year 2018.


Senator Breckenridge: "I object."


Seconded
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Postby Tumblrena » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:30 am

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María Antonieta sighs loudly.

"Mr. President, if there is objection I move for a five minute period of debate on the amendment."

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Postby Vaquas » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:31 am

Senator Locklear: I motion to amend the bill and put it forward as follows.

Official Name: Education Equality, Fairness, Nondiscrimination and Equal Treatment Act
Nickname: EEFENTA


Overview: Dissuades against discrimination in public education relating to science.

Section 1: Hereby recognizes that the vast majority of Americans favor equal treatment in science education.

Section 2: Hereby allows for the teaching of the theory of Intelligent Design in equal time and with equal treatment as teaching of naturalistic evolution.

Section 3: Hereby establishes that states shall retain the power to legally disallow the teaching of Intelligent Design alongside Naturalistic Evolution in public schools with related state legislation.

Section 4: Hereby mandates that this legislation shall enter into effect at the start of Fiscal Year 2018.
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Postby Dentali » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:31 am

Vaquas wrote:Senator Locklear: I motion to amend the bill and put it forward as follows.

Official Name: Education Equality, Fairness, Nondiscrimination and Equal Treatment Act
Nickname: EEFENTA


Overview: Dissuades against discrimination in public education relating to science.

Section 1: Hereby recognizes that the vast majority of Americans favor equal treatment in science education.

Section 2: Hereby allows for the teaching of the theory of Intelligent Design in equal time and with equal treatment as teaching of naturalistic evolution.

Section 3: Hereby establishes that states shall retain the power to legally disallow the teaching of Intelligent Design alongside Naturalistic Evolution in public schools with related state legislation.

Section 4: Hereby mandates that this legislation shall enter into effect at the start of Fiscal Year 2018.


Fowler: Seconded
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