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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:52 pm

Good, Utt and Vaq you are both here. Debate time?

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Postby Vaquas » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:53 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Good, Utt and Vaq you are both here. Debate time?


What?
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:54 pm

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Good, Utt and Vaq you are both here. Debate time?


What?

CT Democratic primary

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Postby Vaquas » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:55 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
What?

CT Democratic primary


I am 0% prepared for that.

I can tomorrow.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:56 pm

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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:CT Democratic primary


I am 0% prepared for that.

I can tomorrow.


You do not preparation, we do not know when we can do this again...

Arrange a time with Utt first though.

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Postby MaxYW » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:59 pm

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So are you saying that he went to the Progressive party for the 2016 election?

That makes sense and is good, I just wanted to make sure.

My english isnt amazing huh, I was under the impression that the democrats still had a seat in 2016? something along those lines, ido stay with he democrats i just cant english.

Sorry, if its necessary for the story i can change to progs of course, by that i think i meant it was a tight vote in that area as to who would win? maybe i am totally misunderstanding how these elections and delegations work

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Postby Uttland » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:00 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Vaquas wrote:
I am 0% prepared for that.

I can tomorrow.


You do not preparation, we do not know when we can do this again...

Arrange a time with Utt first though.

I'm well and fine after 3:00 tomorrow
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:02 pm

MaxYW wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
So are you saying that he went to the Progressive party for the 2016 election?

That makes sense and is good, I just wanted to make sure.

My english isnt amazing huh, I was under the impression that the democrats still had a seat in 2016? something along those lines, ido stay with he democrats i just cant english.

Sorry, if its necessary for the story i can change to progs of course, by that i think i meant it was a tight vote in that area as to who would win? maybe i am totally misunderstanding how these elections and delegations work


No problem, it's all good. Basically, it's your call if you want him to be with the Democrats or the Progressives. You can take either and still win, it's up to you. Many Progressives are the more left-wing defectors from the Democratic party, which fits his profile. Based on his political leanings the Progressives would make sense for him, but you can choose either party as you like. Sorry for any confusion.
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Postby MaxYW » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:05 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
MaxYW wrote:My english isnt amazing huh, I was under the impression that the democrats still had a seat in 2016? something along those lines, ido stay with he democrats i just cant english.

Sorry, if its necessary for the story i can change to progs of course, by that i think i meant it was a tight vote in that area as to who would win? maybe i am totally misunderstanding how these elections and delegations work


No problem, it's all good. Basically, it's your call if you want him to be with the Democrats or the Progressives. You can take either and still win, it's up to you. Many Progressives are the more left-wing defectors from the Democratic party, which fits his profile. Based on his political leanings the Progressives would make sense for him, but you can choose either party as you like. Sorry for any confusion.

If my understanding of the US system is correct, the Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggies, and the "most likely to win stuff" parties, which is kind of where i want him to be

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:09 pm

MaxYW wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
No problem, it's all good. Basically, it's your call if you want him to be with the Democrats or the Progressives. You can take either and still win, it's up to you. Many Progressives are the more left-wing defectors from the Democratic party, which fits his profile. Based on his political leanings the Progressives would make sense for him, but you can choose either party as you like. Sorry for any confusion.

If my understanding of the US system is correct, the Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggies, and the "most likely to win stuff" parties, which is kind of where i want him to be


The Progressives just had a major electoral breakthrough, though they are having some troubles organizing in the East Coast(the area around NY) which for the most part is still loyal to the Democrats.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby MaxYW » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:10 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
MaxYW wrote:If my understanding of the US system is correct, the Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggies, and the "most likely to win stuff" parties, which is kind of where i want him to be


The Progressives just had a major electoral breakthrough, though they are having some troubles organizing in the East Coast(the area around NY) which for the most part is still loyal to the Democrats.

SO say if down the line, a presidential run perhaps, was considered, id have an equal shot as either the dems or the progs?

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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:10 pm

MaxYW wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
No problem, it's all good. Basically, it's your call if you want him to be with the Democrats or the Progressives. You can take either and still win, it's up to you. Many Progressives are the more left-wing defectors from the Democratic party, which fits his profile. Based on his political leanings the Progressives would make sense for him, but you can choose either party as you like. Sorry for any confusion.

If my understanding of the US system is correct, the Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggies, and the "most likely to win stuff" parties, which is kind of where i want him to be


Yep, you're generally right. In the RP, in 2016, for the super-summary version, the Democratic party had some problems, and the Progressives largely rose up to take the left wing from them. As it stands the Progs did better in the Presidential election and have the same number of Governorships, but a lot less Senators. Whether the Dems re-absorb the Progs, they become a contending third party, they fade away, or they take over from the Dems is basically going to be determined by the RP.

So with either party you can win in Vermont. Right now the Progs are overall smaller but seem to be rising, and the Dems still larger but seem to be falling. Of course both of those could change and your own character could have some impact on it.

In any case it's your call either way, and you're good no matter which you decide
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:11 pm

MaxYW wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
The Progressives just had a major electoral breakthrough, though they are having some troubles organizing in the East Coast(the area around NY) which for the most part is still loyal to the Democrats.

SO say if down the line, a presidential run perhaps, was considered, id have an equal shot as either the dems or the progs?


That's basically what the RP is going to end up determining. By 2020 the Dems could be back on top and the Progs rendered irrelevant, or the Progs could have largely taken over from the Democrats. It's the actions of you and others that'll largely be determining what happens.

But as things are right now, a candidate from either party should both have a relatively strong shot at competing for the Presidency (like I said though, could change either way)
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:12 pm

MaxYW wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
The Progressives just had a major electoral breakthrough, though they are having some troubles organizing in the East Coast(the area around NY) which for the most part is still loyal to the Democrats.

SO say if down the line, a presidential run perhaps, was considered, id have an equal shot as either the dems or the progs?


Depends, on where he wants to draw his national power base from. If he wants to establish himself on the East Coast then he should probably go Democratic, if he wants to draw from the West Coast he should go Progressive.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:13 pm

Prepare for a Johnson "speech

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:14 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
MaxYW wrote:SO say if down the line, a presidential run perhaps, was considered, id have an equal shot as either the dems or the progs?


Depends, on where he wants to draw his national power base from. If he wants to establish himself on the East Coast then he should probably go Democratic, if he wants to draw from the West Coast he should go Progressive.


New England is largely Progressive, it's New York/Jersey/Maryland/Philly that's Democratic
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:15 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Depends, on where he wants to draw his national power base from. If he wants to establish himself on the East Coast then he should probably go Democratic, if he wants to draw from the West Coast he should go Progressive.


New England is largely Progressive, it's New York/Jersey/Maryland/Philly that's Democratic


Rhode Island is also pretty Democratic.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:16 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Tallahassee News Station wrote:
New England is largely Progressive, it's New York/Jersey/Maryland/Philly that's Democratic


Rhode Island is also pretty Democratic.


Rhode Island is going to get very interesting.

Yeah, but they and Conn still are Dem-leaning. Northern New England is more what I'm saying
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:18 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Rhode Island is also pretty Democratic.


Rhode Island is going to get very interesting.

Yeah, but they and Conn still are Dem-leaning. Northern New England is more what I'm saying


He also gets Illinois thrown into the bargain if he goes Democratic.

Democratic:
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Progressive
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-Northern New England

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby MaxYW » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:21 pm

So after a couple of coin flips, the Dems win this round, im gonna take the challenge of converting the progs and trying to turn them back to the Dems in that area, also obviously got some competition to knock off ;)

This means my finalised application (the most recent posted that you quoted) is complete, and aside from a few easily tweakable english areas, its all done. Thanks for the help from all of you :P

Out of curiosity, what went wrong with the Dems last election, so i know what not to do

PS: does my character look old enough yet ;P

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:23 pm

MaxYW wrote:So after a couple of coin flips, the Dems win this round, im gonna take the challenge of converting the progs and trying to turn them back to the Dems in that area, also obviously got some competition to knock off ;)

This means my finalised application (the most recent posted that you quoted) is complete, and aside from a few easily tweakable english areas, its all done. Thanks for the help from all of you :P

Out of curiosity, what went wrong with the Dems last election, so i know what not to do

PS: does my character look old enough yet ;P


Literally, everything that could go wrong for the Democrats went wrong both IC and OOC(bad nominee, a tidal wave of scandals, bad VP, historically bad President, players going inactive)

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
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Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
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Postby MaxYW » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:25 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
MaxYW wrote:So after a couple of coin flips, the Dems win this round, im gonna take the challenge of converting the progs and trying to turn them back to the Dems in that area, also obviously got some competition to knock off ;)

This means my finalised application (the most recent posted that you quoted) is complete, and aside from a few easily tweakable english areas, its all done. Thanks for the help from all of you :P

Out of curiosity, what went wrong with the Dems last election, so i know what not to do

PS: does my character look old enough yet ;P


Literally, everything that could go wrong for the Democrats went wrong both IC and OOC(bad nominee, a tidal wave of scandals, bad VP, historically bad President, players going inactive)

Ouch, okay, that will take a little work... Hopefully we don't run into the whole inactivity issue consistently, and hopefully the fact i played no part in the previous presidency (or much of it, if i am correct) and the fact i played little part in any scandals, i am slightly more in the clear.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:26 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
MaxYW wrote:So after a couple of coin flips, the Dems win this round, im gonna take the challenge of converting the progs and trying to turn them back to the Dems in that area, also obviously got some competition to knock off ;)

This means my finalised application (the most recent posted that you quoted) is complete, and aside from a few easily tweakable english areas, its all done. Thanks for the help from all of you :P

Out of curiosity, what went wrong with the Dems last election, so i know what not to do

PS: does my character look old enough yet ;P


Literally, everything that could go wrong for the Democrats went wrong both IC and OOC(bad nominee, a tidal wave of scandals, bad VP, historically bad President, players going inactive)


Pretty much the only thing that went right for them was the Illinois Progressive Governor committing political suicide via live TV.

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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Postby Velahor » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:27 pm

MaxYW wrote:So after a couple of coin flips, the Dems win this round, im gonna take the challenge of converting the progs and trying to turn them back to the Dems in that area, also obviously got some competition to knock off ;)

This means my finalised application (the most recent posted that you quoted) is complete, and aside from a few easily tweakable english areas, its all done. Thanks for the help from all of you :P

Out of curiosity, what went wrong with the Dems last election, so i know what not to do

PS: does my character look old enough yet ;P

That’s part of my character, Nicole Smith’s goals. She’ll make a good ally as long as she can keep her mouth shut on Twitter (she recently made a very offensive comment about the First Lady).
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:28 pm

MaxYW wrote:
Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Literally, everything that could go wrong for the Democrats went wrong both IC and OOC(bad nominee, a tidal wave of scandals, bad VP, historically bad President, players going inactive)

Ouch, okay, that will take a little work... Hopefully we don't run into the whole inactivity issue consistently, and hopefully the fact i played no part in the previous presidency (or much of it, if i am correct) and the fact i played little part in any scandals, i am slightly more in the clear.


Your VT Rep is pretty much completely clear of Winston, as I see few connections. Here is a few things you need to know about House Democratic Leadership.

-House Leader is Antonio De Nieto(my character) from San Francisco
-DCCC chairperson is Jared O'Leary from Chicago

That is pretty much it.
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"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
-Aristotle
"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
Economic:3.88
Social:1.40

Tory Blue to the Core(Leans Democrat in the US though)
What have we done...

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