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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:28 pm

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Most of those actions would either not be possible, or could have been completes regardless. Security tapes, as noted, were not available, and would not have been provided regardless. It is highly doubtful that Stafford's staff would have allowed him free access to the office for the purpose of taking pictures. Capitol police are not posted in Senate offices. Recording from them would be rather useless. Presuming Stafford was brought to the hospital, and it was implied she was not, doctors would further have no obligation nor incentive to record statements to Fowler.

Hiring of a lawyer and attacking Stafford's credibility both are actions that can be taken presently, or could have been taken in the interim.

The roleplay of Stafford refusing help would almost invariably include him being removed from the office. From that point, he can only complete most of the noted actions through stalking Stafford, or breaking and entering.

At worst, a continued roleplay could have Stafford summon Capitol Police to remove him.

If Xathuecia agrees as well to reopening that portion of the roleplay, it can be done, but Fowler is in little position to enhance his position.



Look i'd rather drop the whole fucking thing. This is a dick move on Xath's part and I honestly don't see how it can be justified just pulling this out of his ass 2 weeks later. It's not like Xath and I haven't been active players.


But if Xath insists on going this route than I would sure as hell drag this out an go back. I need access to the crime scene immediately to clear my name, and if i need a lawyer to treat it as such I will


We will await his response, then. Either the roleplay will be reopened, if he chooses, or we will continue from the current point, with the note that no tapes were available, and Fowler's aid was refused.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:29 pm

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Uh, dude, Fowler's not a private detective. He can't just go into hospitals and start recording statements from doctors, or set up a crime scene in someone else's office



hence the lawyer, he wouldn't do all this himself but he would start a criminal investigation and get out ahead of it, not let Stafford control the scene and the narrative.


He could have done all of that anyways though. Stafford saying "don't help me" shouldn't change that
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Postby Meelducan » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:30 pm

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Pictured: Detective Zachary Fowler investigating Senator Stafford's office.
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Postby Meelducan » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:31 pm

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Meelducan wrote:Now?

Does Johnson have time or is available?

Yes.
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:33 pm

Meelducan wrote:(Image)
Pictured: Detective Zachary Fowler investigating Senator Stafford's office.
HUSH


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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:33 pm

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hence the lawyer, he wouldn't do all this himself but he would start a criminal investigation and get out ahead of it, not let Stafford control the scene and the narrative.


He could have done all of that anyways though. Stafford saying "don't help me" shouldn't change that



Yea he would have but I didn't want to retroactively say "Hey for the past 2 weeks i've constructed an ironclad case against Stafford I just didn't bother to RP any of it because im lazy and wanted to surprise everyone" Fucking hell Xath didn't RP any of the conversations with the staff, the doctors visit, the surgery, filing charges, any one of the the hundred steps they'd have to go through
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:34 pm

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Fowler was incredibly suspicious of Stafford, if she suddenly took a fall and blamed him his suspicions would be confirmed. He would go immediately to the security room to gain copies of any and all tapes, he would take pictures of the entire scene and then immediately go to multiple media sources, he would hire a lawyer. Get out ahead of the whole thing and get into contact with everyone else Stafford has fucked over to destroy her credibility. Meanwhile he would go to the hospital and get recorded statements from all doctors involved with his lawyer present regarding the nature of her injuries. He would also take records of every single police office in the building especially the several that would be assigned to Stafford personally due to her important position, and establish how unbelievably stupid it would be to attack someone that well guarded and powerful. He would have gotten eyewitness statements from everyone he could to refute the narrative Fowler was yelling at Stafford. That and a dozen other things



Uh, dude, Fowler's not a private detective. He can't just go into hospitals and start recording statements from doctors, or set up a crime scene in someone else's office

Or is he?

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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:35 pm

I will not, never let this rest. I would rather leave the RP
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:35 pm

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He could have done all of that anyways though. Stafford saying "don't help me" shouldn't change that



Yea he would have but I didn't want to retroactively say "Hey for the past 2 weeks i've constructed an ironclad case against Stafford I just didn't bother to RP any of it because im lazy and wanted to surprise everyone" Fucking hell Xath didn't RP any of the conversations with the staff, the doctors visit, the surgery, filing charges, any one of the the hundred steps they'd have to go through


Well yeah, that's because it was specifically mentioned that she wasn't filing charges, and wouldn't have the surgery until the new year
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Postby Main Nation Ministry » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:35 pm

Meelducan wrote:
Main Nation Ministry wrote:Does Johnson have time or is available?

Yes.

How would Johnson like to get kidnapped? I planned on Defunct going Lunch at the Gotham Cafe on witness while kidnapping Johnson, but I saw that as risky. All you need to know is Defunct got an accomplice to help him and that Defunct managed to steal the same police car of the cop he killed.
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And I love this RP
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Postby Meelducan » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:37 pm

Main Nation Ministry wrote:
Meelducan wrote:Yes.

How would Johnson like to get kidnapped? I planned on Defunct going Lunch at the Gotham Cafe on witness while kidnapping Johnson, but I saw that as risky. All you need to know is Defunct got an accomplice to help him and that Defunct managed to steal the same police car of the cop he killed.

Fine by me.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:37 pm

Dentali wrote:And I love this RP

If you truly do, I would advise against allowing this one particular incident that occurred against one of your characters be the sole reason for your sudden departure.

You are a valued member of this community, and we very much would rather you stay.
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Postby The Central Shadow Nation » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:41 pm

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:42 pm

Still cannot believe Amaras danced on Winston's grave

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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:43 pm

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Dentali wrote:And I love this RP

If you truly do, I would advise against allowing this one particular incident that occurred against one of your characters be the sole reason for your sudden departure.

You are a valued member of this community, and we very much would rather you stay.



I appreciate that but I love this RP because it has good RP and respect between its members, this incident flyies in the face of that
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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:45 pm

My first foster parents took me to the hospital for "falls" plenty. It makes me physically ill to be anywhere near these kind of accusations
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:46 pm

Dentali wrote:My first foster parents took me to the hospital for "falls" plenty. It makes me physically ill to be anywhere near these kind of accusations

You have a very interesting life story, but you do not want to be telling that to complete strangers over the internet.

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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:48 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Still cannot believe Amaras danced on Winston's grave

You think anyone is going to be defending Winston, though?
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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:49 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Dentali wrote:My first foster parents took me to the hospital for "falls" plenty. It makes me physically ill to be anywhere near these kind of accusations

You have a very interesting life story, but you do not want to be telling that to complete strangers over the internet.



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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:49 pm

Anyways if the Senate respects Senatorial Courtesy, they would not appoint Wright.

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:51 pm

Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Anyways if the Senate respects Senatorial Courtesy, they would not appoint Wright.

Overstein is voting against confirming Wright.

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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:52 pm

Dentali wrote:My first foster parents took me to the hospital for "falls" plenty. It makes me physically ill to be anywhere near these kind of accusations

This deeply saddens me, but let us keep this out of the RP, shall we?

This is a very different circumstance than endemic physical abuse that plagues this country, it is a scuffle between two Senators. Let's keep this from being personal if possible.

Not to say your issues do not matter. Lord knows we all have them. They certainly are important, but this is not the place to discuss them.
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Postby Dentali » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:54 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Dentali wrote:My first foster parents took me to the hospital for "falls" plenty. It makes me physically ill to be anywhere near these kind of accusations

This deeply saddens me, but let us keep this out of the RP, shall we?

This is a very different circumstance than endemic physical abuse that plagues this country, it is a scuffle between two Senators. Let's keep this from being personal if possible.

Not to say your issues do not matter. Lord knows we all have them. They certainly are important, but this is not the place to discuss them.



Im sorry but its bringing my issues to the forefront, I want to avoid this more than anything else right now and I see the two as very related.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:56 pm

Dentali wrote:
Sanabel wrote:This deeply saddens me, but let us keep this out of the RP, shall we?

This is a very different circumstance than endemic physical abuse that plagues this country, it is a scuffle between two Senators. Let's keep this from being personal if possible.

Not to say your issues do not matter. Lord knows we all have them. They certainly are important, but this is not the place to discuss them.



Im sorry but its bringing my issues to the forefront, I want to avoid this more than anything else right now and I see the two as very related.

Fowler is not you, and self-inserts are highly frowned upon

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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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