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The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:59 am

Sha Mobutia wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:-snip-


Actually they say Sedna's rotation - if we've measured it accurately - is significantly slower than it should be. And its orbit is far more elliptical than much of the rest of the Belt.

Though yeah in comparison to literally any actual planet's, Sedna's "moon" would be little more than a dark clump of rock. In comparison to Sedna it'd probably be rather sizeable (but then again you just have to be roughly comparable to Pluto to claim that).

I was mostly asking for flavor and setting. The most I could imagine a body of that size being any good for would be a refueling point for short-range cutters and similar ships and a communication relay for ships and sites within the Collective's sphere of influence. A handful of folks with the cyberpunk equivalent of a vegetable patch, a HAM radio, and a diesel pump.


I was saying more along the lines of Pluto and Charon being in an almost binary system, but yeah. I'd wait for Grestin before you do anything.

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Postby Sha Mobutia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:15 am

Also: inter-system FTL messenger "torpedoes" with the loss of interplanetary communication. Plausible? Sensible?

Basically sending a pre-recorded video/transmission via a secure, tiny little unmanned vessel. Basically since Saturn went all quiet and more conventional Confederation channels of communication went down, the Collective might look into other means besides just broadcasting a message through the system. The inspiration from this came from Honor Harrington for those of you who are curious or who might think the concept sounds familiar.

  • Pros that I can see
    • Relatively secure
    • Fast delivery of message
    • To some extent it can bypass interference from something such as solar storms: the source of the transmission isn't a station on Sedna but rather a relatively powerful transmitter within the Confederation's (or other recipient's) sphere of influence in the solar system. Relatively close to the planet the recipient is on.
  • Cons that I can see
    • Moving parts
    • Could be physically intercepted, even if the message might be encrypted to the point of seeming like garbage to a third party
    • Immediate response or updates based on information wouldn't be possible. There's no real stopping a declaration of war sent this way and the contents of the message could be minutes, hours, or even days or more out of date depending on the distance traversed from sender to recipient.
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Postby The Hierophancy » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:12 am

Sha Mobutia wrote:Also: inter-system FTL messenger "torpedoes" with the loss of interplanetary communication. Plausible? Sensible?

Basically sending a pre-recorded video/transmission via a secure, tiny little unmanned vessel. Basically since Saturn went all quiet and more conventional Confederation channels of communication went down, the Collective might look into other means besides just broadcasting a message through the system. The inspiration from this came from Honor Harrington for those of you who are curious or who might think the concept sounds familiar.

  • Pros that I can see
    • Relatively secure
    • Fast delivery of message
    • To some extent it can bypass interference from something such as solar storms: the source of the transmission isn't a station on Sedna but rather a relatively powerful transmitter within the Confederation's (or other recipient's) sphere of influence in the solar system. Relatively close to the planet the recipient is on.
  • Cons that I can see
    • Moving parts
    • Could be physically intercepted, even if the message might be encrypted to the point of seeming like garbage to a third party
    • Immediate response or updates based on information wouldn't be possible. There's no real stopping a declaration of war sent this way and the contents of the message could be minutes, hours, or even days or more out of date depending on the distance traversed from sender to recipient.

If we have the tech for FTL transportation it would seem to me we likely have FTL comms that dont rely on physical courtier ships, though depending on the methods I guess freak solar storms could prove an issue. On a related note, exactly how fast is our FTL tech?

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Postby Parcia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:32 am

So apparently Cobalt has named me a Cyber terrorist, I honestly don't know to be Honored or offended.
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Postby New Grestin » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:41 am

At work, so I'll review and answer questions when I get back.

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Postby Labstoska » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:20 am

May I please reserve Europa in order to create a 1984 style totalitarian state

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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:24 am

Labstoska wrote:May I please reserve Europa in order to create a 1984 style totalitarian state



Europa is currently reserved. Callisto is open however.

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Postby PLESSUR » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:39 am

I think it's rather interesting that when we all try to conjure up futuristic states on other planets, they mostly tend to be authoritarian or even totalitarian. Reflection of sci fi or a lack of faith in democracy? Anyway hopefully I'll be getting a post up shortly.
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The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened, but the Confederacy coup didn't cause it to be kicked out, did it?

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Postby Parcia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:48 am

So, if anyone is willing to pony up the Cash, Maldoon and his Lion Company are more then willing to go scout out a new planet for colonization/strip-mining.

I also legit considered using old stock UH-1s as cheap in atmosphere transport.
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:54 am

Parcia wrote:So, if anyone is willing to pony up the Cash, Maldoon and his Lion Company are more then willing to go scout out a new planet for colonization/strip-mining.

I also legit considered using old stock UH-1s as cheap in atmosphere transport.


We can pay you immortality through metal

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Postby Parcia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:59 am

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Parcia wrote:So, if anyone is willing to pony up the Cash, Maldoon and his Lion Company are more then willing to go scout out a new planet for colonization/strip-mining.

I also legit considered using old stock UH-1s as cheap in atmosphere transport.


We can pay you immortality through metal


Stay the fuck away from me you crazy droid bastard.
So apparently Cobalt has named me a Cyber terrorist, I honestly don't know to be Honored or offended.
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:02 pm

Parcia wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
We can pay you immortality through metal


Stay the fuck away from me you crazy droid bastard.


What do you mean, you don't want your bones converted into a robot and your mind turned into data. You get to live forever you silly pirate.

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Postby Parcia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:05 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Parcia wrote:
Stay the fuck away from me you crazy droid bastard.


What do you mean, you don't want your bones converted into a robot and your mind turned into data. You get to live forever you silly pirate.


Ok, first off, Lion company are Mercenaries and Explorers, not bloody pirates. Secondly, I vary much value my flawed, yet awesome organic existence.
So apparently Cobalt has named me a Cyber terrorist, I honestly don't know to be Honored or offended.
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:08 pm

Parcia wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
What do you mean, you don't want your bones converted into a robot and your mind turned into data. You get to live forever you silly pirate.


Ok, first off, Lion company are Mercenaries and Explorers, not bloody pirates. Secondly, I vary much value my flawed, yet awesome organic existence.


We can give you organic and robotic. Your bones will be machine, your body organic. You can be Arnold.

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Postby Sha Mobutia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:15 pm

The Hierophancy wrote:
Sha Mobutia wrote:Also: inter-system FTL messenger "torpedoes" with the loss of interplanetary communication. Plausible? Sensible?

Basically sending a pre-recorded video/transmission via a secure, tiny little unmanned vessel. Basically since Saturn went all quiet and more conventional Confederation channels of communication went down, the Collective might look into other means besides just broadcasting a message through the system. The inspiration from this came from Honor Harrington for those of you who are curious or who might think the concept sounds familiar.

  • Pros that I can see
    • Relatively secure
    • Fast delivery of message
    • To some extent it can bypass interference from something such as solar storms: the source of the transmission isn't a station on Sedna but rather a relatively powerful transmitter within the Confederation's (or other recipient's) sphere of influence in the solar system. Relatively close to the planet the recipient is on.
  • Cons that I can see
    • Moving parts
    • Could be physically intercepted, even if the message might be encrypted to the point of seeming like garbage to a third party
    • Immediate response or updates based on information wouldn't be possible. There's no real stopping a declaration of war sent this way and the contents of the message could be minutes, hours, or even days or more out of date depending on the distance traversed from sender to recipient.

If we have the tech for FTL transportation it would seem to me we likely have FTL comms that dont rely on physical courtier ships, though depending on the methods I guess freak solar storms could prove an issue. On a related note, exactly how fast is our FTL tech?


I was mainly working out a means to deliver symmetrical encryption keys to provide other nations quick (temporary) access to a communication network Sedna is setting up using optical transmission and asymmetrical encryption keys. Basically yeah you can intercept the little pod, but that will be useful to you for all the time it takes the Collective to ping the intended recipient through more 'conventional' communications to ask if they've received 'it'.
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Postby Parcia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:34 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Parcia wrote:
Ok, first off, Lion company are Mercenaries and Explorers, not bloody pirates. Secondly, I vary much value my flawed, yet awesome organic existence.


We can give you organic and robotic. Your bones will be machine, your body organic. You can be Arnold.


I will flood your computer net with so much midget porn, you will self destruct your self.
So apparently Cobalt has named me a Cyber terrorist, I honestly don't know to be Honored or offended.
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:35 pm

Parcia wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
We can give you organic and robotic. Your bones will be machine, your body organic. You can be Arnold.


I will flood your computer net with so much midget porn, you will self destruct your self.



Hah, you would just be sending us our 3rd copy of whatever you find.

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Postby Damverland » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:46 pm

Parcia wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
We can give you organic and robotic. Your bones will be machine, your body organic. You can be Arnold.


I will flood your computer net with so much midget porn, you will self destruct your self.

Saving this.
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Postby Sha Mobutia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:47 pm

Only the third copy, eh?

A suspiciously low number . . .

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Postby Ulls » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:02 pm

Parcia wrote:So, if anyone is willing to pony up the Cash, Maldoon and his Lion Company are more then willing to go scout out a new planet for colonization/strip-mining.

I also legit considered using old stock UH-1s as cheap in atmosphere transport.

I will be sending you a message to work on behalf of the steampunk Helghast. Find me a world with extra death and you will also be paid in gas masks.

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Postby Parcia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:19 pm

Ulls wrote:
Parcia wrote:So, if anyone is willing to pony up the Cash, Maldoon and his Lion Company are more then willing to go scout out a new planet for colonization/strip-mining.

I also legit considered using old stock UH-1s as cheap in atmosphere transport.

I will be sending you a message to work on behalf of the steampunk Helghast. Find me a world with extra death and you will also be paid in gas masks.


Change that to cash, and you have a deal
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Postby Ulls » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:15 pm

Parcia wrote:
Ulls wrote:I will be sending you a message to work on behalf of the steampunk Helghast. Find me a world with extra death and you will also be paid in gas masks.


Change that to cash, and you have a deal

Alright, will have a post up about it.

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Postby True Refuge » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:20 pm

That's Mercury's cell done.

If you've got any questions about what the Order's going to do and all that Damverland, just TG me and I'll give some vague answers :)
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:21 pm

True Refuge wrote:That's Mercury's cell done.

If you've got any questions about what the Order's going to do and all that Damverland, just TG me and I'll give some vague answers :)


I'm intrested to see if you do a cyborg cell.

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Postby Parcia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:24 pm

Ulls wrote:
Parcia wrote:
Change that to cash, and you have a deal

Alright, will have a post up about it.


Hurry up and get it in before the storm get's to bad.

And if the storms stop long range jumps, cant some one technically make a set of short jumps to get to their destination?
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