American Crisis (OOC/PMT/North America/Dead)

[Pimps Inc]

Unification happened 2 years ago. But I'm sure it's in the people's best interest to want to secede and start a fragmentation.

Precisely I'm glad u understand, they gave the govt 2 years to get there shit together they haven't things are the same if not worse.

Did the US repair itself by 1867 from a 4 year conflict? Meanwhile you want the Mexican government to repair the country after decades of separation after just 2 years as well?

[Red Party]

That's not an issue, everyone inside will be dead.

Burn children alive, you will have riots in other regions of Mexico and in other cities in our region.

Not burning any children, burning your infrastructure, then killing those opposed.

[Apror]

It didn't cause it. Causing something, and making something work doesn't mean the same thing.

It has the same goal and effect. It was convinent for France to have rebels to tear America from the British Crown. It is convinent for Mexico to have rebels tear those 3 Mexican states from Texas. We might not even have to create it, the Brown Berets do exist and claim Mexico had land stolen from them. If I give them guns, money, and a proper leadership, that's a rebel group potentially.

I doubt groups like that are not being watched by the ISS. If they're peaceful, that's one thing. They go violent? People start getting arrested. (With unrefutable proof of violence mind you). Then there's the fact anything coming out of Mexico from this point forward will be treated with suspicion, not that it already wasn't.

[Apror]

Precisely I'm glad u understand, they gave the govt 2 years to get there shit together they haven't things are the same if not worse.

Did the US repair itself by 1867 from a 4 year conflict? Meanwhile you want the Mexican government to repair the country after decades of separation after just 2 years as well?

I though the conflict wasn't bloody for decades, until the eventual peaceful reunification. Y'all weren't fighting.

[Apror]

Burn children alive, you will have riots in other regions of Mexico and in other cities in our region.

Not burning any children, burning your infrastructure, then killing those opposed.

How would you avoid killing Children if Children are likely to be involved in those areas? Not to mention that woul only further the flames of hatred.

[Pimps Inc]

It has the same goal and effect. It was convinent for France to have rebels to tear America from the British Crown. It is convinent for Mexico to have rebels tear those 3 Mexican states from Texas. We might not even have to create it, the Brown Berets do exist and claim Mexico had land stolen from them. If I give them guns, money, and a proper leadership, that's a rebel group potentially.

I doubt groups like that are not being watched by the ISS. If they're peaceful, that's one thing. They go violent? People start getting arrested. (With unrefutable proof of violence mind you). Then there's the fact anything coming out of Mexico from this point forward will be treated with suspicion, not that it already wasn't.

They are peaceful even if they did stage protests and and pressure local governments into action even without Mexican support IRL. But by 2064, they would have probably gone into a lot of inaction and eventually lose the attention of any law enforcement, as they already have in 2017.

[Apror]

I doubt groups like that are not being watched by the ISS. If they're peaceful, that's one thing. They go violent? People start getting arrested. (With unrefutable proof of violence mind you). Then there's the fact anything coming out of Mexico from this point forward will be treated with suspicion, not that it already wasn't.

They are peaceful even if they did stage protests and and pressure local governments into action even without Mexican support IRL. But by 2064, they would have probably gone into a lot of inaction and eventually lose the attention of any law enforcement, as they already have in 2017.

Would they even be around then? And if another group happened to form, that's not going to escape the ISS careful eye if they do anything publicly. Like try spreading their ideals.

[Pimps Inc]

Did the US repair itself by 1867 from a 4 year conflict? Meanwhile you want the Mexican government to repair the country after decades of separation after just 2 years as well?

I though the conflict wasn't bloody for decades, until the eventual peaceful reunification. Y'all weren't fighting.

It's not bloody doesn't mean it's stable, as these rebel movements can attest.

Not burning any children, burning your infrastructure, then killing those opposed.

How would you avoid killing Children if Children are likely to be involved in those areas? Not to mention that woul only further the flames of hatred.

Surrender the city."

"No"

"Alright, you have 2 days to evacuate the women and children before the army take the city."

Simple.

[RNT]

Precisely I'm glad u understand, they gave the govt 2 years to get there shit together they haven't things are the same if not worse.

Did the US repair itself by 1867 from a 4 year conflict? Meanwhile you want the Mexican government to repair the country after decades of separation after just 2 years as well?

So your admitting the country inst repaired like u said it was.

[Nea Byzantia]

They are peaceful even if they did stage protests and and pressure local governments into action even without Mexican support IRL. But by 2064, they would have probably gone into a lot of inaction and eventually lose the attention of any law enforcement, as they already have in 2017.

Would they even be around then? And if another group happened to form, that's not going to escape the ISS careful eye if they do anything publicly. Like try spreading their ideals.

Mexico was just in a Civil War...no time for arrests (the logistics for running such a police state everywhere is unfeasable). This is the time where revolts will probably be happening quite often.

[Pimps Inc]

They are peaceful even if they did stage protests and and pressure local governments into action even without Mexican support IRL. But by 2064, they would have probably gone into a lot of inaction and eventually lose the attention of any law enforcement, as they already have in 2017.

Would they even be around then? And if another group happened to form, that's not going to escape the ISS careful eye if they do anything publicly. Like try spreading their ideals.

They would. They'd be on life support but still a thing. Underground which is good for me. I don't plan on using them in a while.

[Nea Byzantia]

Did the US repair itself by 1867 from a 4 year conflict? Meanwhile you want the Mexican government to repair the country after decades of separation after just 2 years as well?

So your admitting the country inst repaired like u said it was.

According to your rebel group what constitutes repaired?

[Apror]

Would they even be around then? And if another group happened to form, that's not going to escape the ISS careful eye if they do anything publicly. Like try spreading their ideals.

Mexico was just in a Civil War...no time for arrests (the logistics for running such a police state everywhere is unfeasable). This is the time where revolts will probably be happening quite often.

Not everywhere, mostly in the Mexican provinces due to the Cartel. Who we removed 20 years ago, and went about making Mexicans into good Tejanos.

[RNT]

So your admitting the country inst repaired like u said it was.

According to your rebel group what constitutes repaired?

Repaired means able to function enough to begen implementing changes. The plp don't want to be ruled by this oligarchy that suppresses them.

[Apror]

Would they even be around then? And if another group happened to form, that's not going to escape the ISS careful eye if they do anything publicly. Like try spreading their ideals.

They would. They'd be on life support but still a thing. Underground which is good for me. I don't plan on using them in a while.

Do you have a while is the question?

[Pimps Inc]

Did the US repair itself by 1867 from a 4 year conflict? Meanwhile you want the Mexican government to repair the country after decades of separation after just 2 years as well?

So your admitting the country inst repaired like u said it was.

Poverty hasn't been addressed because putting down rebellions and the establishment of a unified government has been prioritized. Instead of soldiers going into Ciudad Victoria, it could be social workers with conditional cash transfers and infrastructure programs.

[RNT]

So your admitting the country inst repaired like u said it was.

Poverty hasn't been addressed because putting down rebellions and the establishment of a unified government has been prioritized. Instead of soldiers going into Ciudad Victoria, it could be social workers with conditional cash transfers and infrastructure programs.

Or we could do it ourselves and have freedom.

On a different note how does fighting work here.

[Apror]

Poverty hasn't been addressed because putting down rebellions and the establishment of a unified government has been prioritized. Instead of soldiers going into Ciudad Victoria, it could be social workers with conditional cash transfers and infrastructure programs.

Or we could do it ourselves and have freedom.

On a different note how does fighting work here.

Ehhhhhhhhh, we'll figure it out. I imagine something like what we did in Alternative History.

[RNT]

Or we could do it ourselves and have freedom.

On a different note how does fighting work here.

Ehhhhhhhhh, we'll figure it out. I imagine something like what we did in Alternative History.

Hmm I would prefer an ie style but either way.

[Apror]

Ehhhhhhhhh, we'll figure it out. I imagine something like what we did in Alternative History.

Hmm I would prefer an ie style but either way.

Yeah, but relying on a IE too much is a drag as well. Hampered one of my RP's

[Pimps Inc]

According to your rebel group what constitutes repaired?

Repaired means able to function enough to begen implementing changes. The plp don't want to be ruled by this oligarchy that suppresses them.

What changes? Oh, like giving social services? Start giving more funds to education and poverty reduction?

[Nea Byzantia]

GENERAL
Formal Nation Name: Empire of Mexico
Informal Nation Name: Mexico
Territory: Central region of Mexico, New Mexico, California, Nevada, Panama, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, El-Salvador, Cuba
Flag/Symbolism: WIP
Demonym: Mexican
Capital: Mexico City

GOVERNMENTAL
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Government Ideology: Fascist
Government Explaination: The collapse of the United States led to a coup in Mexico as well, which resulted in the creation of the Empire, the eradication of the Drug Cartels and the absorption of certain territories into the Empire
Head of State: Emperor Juan-Carlos II
Head of Government: Emperor Juan-Carlos II
Legislature (name): none
Type of Legislature (unicameral, bicameral, tricameral, legislatureless, etc): legislatureless
Legislative Houses (none if unicameral or legislatureless): none
Political Parties (ideologies in paranthese + none if an one-party state or a non-partisan state): none
Judiciary Name: Imperial Judiciary of Mexico
Foreign Policy: Militaristic
Domestic Policy: Authoritarian
State Religion: Roman Catholic
Other Religions: N/A
Allies: None
Enemies: The Grand Cartel/the Triumvirate
Political Position (right-wing, left-wing, centre-right, centre-left, far-right, far-left, alt-right or political centre): Right

SOCIAL
Population: 150,000,000
State Language: Spanish
Other Languages: English
Primary Culture: Latino
Other Cultures: American
Stability (0-10): 7

ECONOMIC
Economic Description: The Empire of Mexico is an autarky, prioritising complete economic self-reliance
Economic Ideology: Protectionism
Imports: N/A under Protectionism
Exports: Oil, wine, Cuban cigars, rum, agricultural products
Main Trading Partners: Europe, South American nations

MILITARY
Military Name: Imperial Armed Forces
Commander: Antonio Ruiz, Grand Duke of Monterey
Military Description: Very modernized, designed for conquest and occupation
Military Branches (names and types):
Army (personnel, vehicles, weapons, subdivisions, quality, etc.): quality is good
Navy (same as above):WIP
Air Force (same as above): WIP
Further Info: WIP

HISTORY
Brief History of Nation (2020-2064):

Following the rise of the Grand Cartel and the commencement of the Civil War, the President was overthrown in an internal coup by General Juan-Carlos Perillos, the Secretary of National Defense. He took the title Emperor Juan-Carlos I (reigned: 2020-2052) and he began by organizing the military under him to battle the Grand Cartel. At the Battle of Monterey (2022 AD), he inflicted a great defeat on them and in the following year, he began a massive offensive in the northwest of the country, seizing all that territory from the Triumvirate/Grand Cartel. By 2025, Tijuana and all of Baja California had fallen to him. After this victory, he pushed further north into southern California, securing his border at Los Angeles and then pushing east to take Las Vegas and later Albuquerque. After securing his authority in those regions (2033), and setting up governors there, Emperor Juan-Carlos I returned to Mexico City.

In 2034, believing the Grand Cartel/Triumvirate would break apart and tear itself to pieces, the Emperor assembled another army and this time, he pushed south, and did not stop conquering until he reached the border of Venezuela. After establishing governors in that region and putting down revolts, the Emperor again returned to Mexico City. By this time (2038), the Cartel had regained some strength and invaded Imperial territory, pushing all the way to the outskirts of Mexico City itself. However, Emperor Juan-Carlos I mustered what forces he could and routed the Cartel's forces, defeating them so badly, that they did not invade Imperial territory again during his reign. In 2040, Emperor Juan-Carlos I satisfied with the defeats he had inflicted on the Cartel, left them alone for the time being. Using the vast wealth he had garnered from his victories, the Emperor built himself the Palacio Grande in Mexico City, a palace so extravagant in style it would put Versailles to shame. He also began to hand out titles of nobility to his favorites and began to live the high life, confident of the imminent defeat of the Cartel. In 2042, the Emperor assembled another army and landed on the island of Cuba, fully conquering it by 2047 and turning it into an imperial province. From that point on, Emperor Juan-Carlos I returned to the Palacio Grande and lived a life of luxury and pleasure. The onerous tax burden for the massive military and the extravagant Imperial Court was levied on the provinces and this did not sit well with the common people. But, in 2049, when the people of Tijuana revolted, the Emperor was ruthless in his retribution and killed half the population of the city. This silenced the Imperial subjects for the remainder of his reign, and the Cartel was still licking its wounds.

However, in 2052, when Juan-Carlos I died and his son came to the throne, most of the Empire went up in revolt and the Cartel, back to its full strength, rushed in to capitalize. The young Emperor Juan-Carlos II managed to quell the revolts in California, Cuba, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua and El-Salvador, but most of the Mexican territory taken by his father, was lost to the Cartel. Nevada and Mexico were also lost to rebels and to Texas. At this point, the fighting became very fierce and remained so until 2060. By this time, both sides were exhausted. Then in 2062, the Peace was concluded and the Civil War was finally ended. In that year, the Cartel/Triumvirate became part of the Imperial regime, Salinas became Prime Minister and the other two members were named nobles. At this point, the rift in the nation is still healing and rebellions could happen at any time.


Goals: Further Conquest, internal stability
Technology (0-10): 9

#AmericaHasFallen - Don't Remove

Above, you will find the History of the Empire that Pimps and I agreed upon. the Portion concerning the Cartel's side of the story is Pimp's concern. If any of you have questions about the above or suggestions of how it contributes to current events, please let me know.

[Apror]

So the war did just end?

[Pimps Inc]

So the war did just end?

Unification just happened. And that's been the main focus for the past 2 years, a thing hard to do with a country stretching from California to Central America, between two entities that had different political systems, one a republic and the other a monarchy. The drafting of a constitution alone. Rebellions aren't helping.

[Apror]

So the war did just end?

Unification just happened. And that's been the main focus for the past 2 years, a thing hard to do with a country stretching from California to Central America, between two entities that had different political systems, one a republic and the other a monarchy. The drafting of a constitution alone. Rebellions aren't helping.

So instability.........huh, this would be very easy.