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Newne Carriebean7
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:12 pm

Apror wrote:
Newne Carriebean7 wrote:We're not "Devilish" just Insanely Misunderstood... as we're insane,and have been under Papa Spaatz for the last 60 something years...

When I say Devilish, I mean mischievous, a little crazy. In a good way tho.

so we're like a little child that's led by a crazy man,hooray for us!
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.

Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:13 pm

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:
Apror wrote:When I say Devilish, I mean mischievous, a little crazy. In a good way tho.

so we're like a little child that's led by a crazy man,hooray for us!

Well, if that's how you want to put it, sure.
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Pimps Inc
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:17 pm

RNT wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Youd rather have war than a prosperous population be given the chance to climb out of poverty?


Funded by the plp who are keeping us in poverty it would never work bc the money u need comes from keeping plp reliant on ur drugs. But even if it did work we would still not be represented and would be low class, if we are independent we can rewrite everything.

The cartel doesn't sell domestically. It kills any members that break that rule. It only exports the drugs. If you declare independence, Mexico will have to invade. Chiapas tried it in 1994. The EZLN collapsed into almost nothing. It's a faint memory. Becoming a single independent state won't improve your standing on the North American food chain. It's an commodity export economy reliant on maquiladoras and forestry.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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RNT
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Postby RNT » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:19 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
RNT wrote:
Funded by the plp who are keeping us in poverty it would never work bc the money u need comes from keeping plp reliant on ur drugs. But even if it did work we would still not be represented and would be low class, if we are independent we can rewrite everything.

The cartel doesn't sell domestically. It kills any members that break that rule. It only exports the drugs. If you declare independence, Mexico will have to invade. Chiapas tried it in 1994. The EZLN collapsed into almost nothing. It's a faint memory. Becoming a single independent state won't improve your standing on the North American food chain. It's an commodity export economy reliant on maquiladoras and forestry.


We shall see.

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Red Party
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Postby Red Party » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:20 pm

RNT wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Youd rather have war than a prosperous population be given the chance to climb out of poverty?


Funded by the plp who are keeping us in poverty it would never work bc the money u need comes from keeping plp reliant on ur drugs. But even if it did work we would still not be represented and would be low class, if we are independent we can rewrite everything.


Right, if you work against the Mexican government, I have no issue lighting your cities on fire.
does smoking kill? idk

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:20 pm

RNT wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Youd rather have war than a prosperous population be given the chance to climb out of poverty?


Funded by the plp who are keeping us in poverty it would never work bc the money u need comes from keeping plp reliant on ur drugs. But even if it did work we would still not be represented and would be low class, if we are independent we can rewrite everything.


The poverty is only an issue because the dust is still settling from the Mexican Civil War (2020-2062), please see my app if you don't know what I'm talking about. The Mexican Empire reigns from southern California in the north, to the border of Venezuela in the south, to Cuba in the west. Our nation has a chance to climb out of poverty and the people know this. Heck, the people are probably exhausted of fighting. You might have some people, you might be able to fight a guerilla war, but not much more than that.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:22 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
RNT wrote:
Funded by the plp who are keeping us in poverty it would never work bc the money u need comes from keeping plp reliant on ur drugs. But even if it did work we would still not be represented and would be low class, if we are independent we can rewrite everything.


The poverty is only an issue because the dust is still settling from the Mexican Civil War (2020-2062), please see my app if you don't know what I'm talking about. The Mexican Empire reigns from southern California in the north, to the border of Venezuela in the south, to Cuba in the west. Our nation has a chance to climb out of poverty and the people know this. Heck, the people are probably exhausted of fighting. You might have some people, you might be able to fight a guerilla war, but not much more than that.

"Heck, the people are exhausted of fighting."
"Let's send an Ultimatum to Texas, and if they don't agree, invade them!"

I'm hearing conflicting messages here bro.
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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RNT
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Postby RNT » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:23 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
RNT wrote:
Funded by the plp who are keeping us in poverty it would never work bc the money u need comes from keeping plp reliant on ur drugs. But even if it did work we would still not be represented and would be low class, if we are independent we can rewrite everything.


The poverty is only an issue because the dust is still settling from the Mexican Civil War (2020-2062), please see my app if you don't know what I'm talking about. The Mexican Empire reigns from southern California in the north, to the border of Venezuela in the south, to Cuba in the west. Our nation has a chance to climb out of poverty and the people know this. Heck, the people are probably exhausted of fighting. You might have some people, you might be able to fight a guerilla war, but not much more than that.



With the help of multiple other countries one I have a border with. And the plp are still angry bc they got nothing for there fighting, they blame the current government.

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Red Party
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Postby Red Party » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:24 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
The poverty is only an issue because the dust is still settling from the Mexican Civil War (2020-2062), please see my app if you don't know what I'm talking about. The Mexican Empire reigns from southern California in the north, to the border of Venezuela in the south, to Cuba in the west. Our nation has a chance to climb out of poverty and the people know this. Heck, the people are probably exhausted of fighting. You might have some people, you might be able to fight a guerilla war, but not much more than that.

"Heck, the people are exhausted of fighting."
"Let's send an Ultimatum to Texas, and if they don't agree, invade them!"

I'm hearing conflicting messages here bro.

I don't mean to be a downer, but this whole RP has gone to shit partially because of the OP. Multiple nations shouldn't have been accepted, and there needs to be a way to regulate tech. Texas is at God-like status and you know it. Just play decently, that's all I ask. You know when something sounds like bullshit.
does smoking kill? idk

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Postby RNT » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:24 pm

Red Party wrote:
RNT wrote:
Funded by the plp who are keeping us in poverty it would never work bc the money u need comes from keeping plp reliant on ur drugs. But even if it did work we would still not be represented and would be low class, if we are independent we can rewrite everything.


Right, if you work against the Mexican government, I have no issue lighting your cities on fire.


I Dare u that will just cause more riots.

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Red Party
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Postby Red Party » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:25 pm

RNT wrote:
Red Party wrote:
Right, if you work against the Mexican government, I have no issue lighting your cities on fire.


I Dare u that will just cause more riots.


That's not an issue, everyone inside will be dead.
does smoking kill? idk

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:26 pm

Red Party wrote:
Apror wrote:"Heck, the people are exhausted of fighting."
"Let's send an Ultimatum to Texas, and if they don't agree, invade them!"

I'm hearing conflicting messages here bro.

I don't mean to be a downer, but this whole RP has gone to shit partially because of the OP. Multiple nations shouldn't have been accepted, and there needs to be a way to regulate tech. Texas is at God-like status and you know it. Just play decently, that's all I ask. You know when something sounds like bullshit.

And this guy had got some vendetta on me, due to my pretty decent start. Plus, Texas isn't God. I was scared for a while of Mexico. Then I reasoned things out with tech. Nothing wrong with that.
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:27 pm

Red Party wrote:
RNT wrote:
I Dare u that will just cause more riots.


That's not an issue, everyone inside will be dead.


"Breaking News, the Mexican Government lights its own cities on fire! This is a humanitarian catastrophe, God bless those poor souls under that cruel regime!"
- Texas Media
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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RNT
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Postby RNT » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:27 pm

Red Party wrote:
RNT wrote:
I Dare u that will just cause more riots.


That's not an issue, everyone inside will be dead.


Burn children alive, you will have riots in other regions of Mexico and in other cities in our region.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:29 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
The poverty is only an issue because the dust is still settling from the Mexican Civil War (2020-2062), please see my app if you don't know what I'm talking about. The Mexican Empire reigns from southern California in the north, to the border of Venezuela in the south, to Cuba in the west. Our nation has a chance to climb out of poverty and the people know this. Heck, the people are probably exhausted of fighting. You might have some people, you might be able to fight a guerilla war, but not much more than that.

"Heck, the people are exhausted of fighting."
"Let's send an Ultimatum to Texas, and if they don't agree, invade them!"

I'm hearing conflicting messages here bro.

Invasion was the 1st option. The Emperor chose the 2nd.
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:31 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:"Heck, the people are exhausted of fighting."
"Let's send an Ultimatum to Texas, and if they don't agree, invade them!"

I'm hearing conflicting messages here bro.

Invasion was the 1st option. The Emperor chose the 2nd.

Start Revolutions in a Sovereign Nation? Sounds good bro. Doesn't sound like the Mexicans are war hungry at all. I mean, I don't do that. I'm France when it comes to Revolutions. I Supply Rebels, then I declare war. I don't start Rebellion however.
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What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:32 pm

RNT wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
The poverty is only an issue because the dust is still settling from the Mexican Civil War (2020-2062), please see my app if you don't know what I'm talking about. The Mexican Empire reigns from southern California in the north, to the border of Venezuela in the south, to Cuba in the west. Our nation has a chance to climb out of poverty and the people know this. Heck, the people are probably exhausted of fighting. You might have some people, you might be able to fight a guerilla war, but not much more than that.



With the help of multiple other countries one I have a border with. And the plp are still angry bc they got nothing for there fighting, they blame the current government.

Unification happened 2 years ago. But I'm sure it's in the people's best interest to want to secede and start a fragmentation.
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:33 pm

Apror wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Invasion was the 1st option. The Emperor chose the 2nd.

Start Revolutions in a Sovereign Nation? Sounds good bro. Doesn't sound like the Mexicans are war hungry at all. I mean, I don't do that. I'm France when it comes to Revolutions. I Supply Rebels, then I declare war. I don't start Rebellion however.

Supplying and creating, there's little difference.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:35 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:Start Revolutions in a Sovereign Nation? Sounds good bro. Doesn't sound like the Mexicans are war hungry at all. I mean, I don't do that. I'm France when it comes to Revolutions. I Supply Rebels, then I declare war. I don't start Rebellion however.

Supplying and creating, little difference.

Yeah there is, France didn't cause the American Revolution. France supplied American Rebels to get back at GB for being a dick. This land belongs to the Tejano!
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:37 pm

Apror wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Supplying and creating, little difference.

Yeah there is, France didn't cause the American Revolution. France supplied American Rebels to get back at GB for being a dick. This land belongs to the Tejano!

France caused the American Revolution to succeed.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:38 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:Yeah there is, France didn't cause the American Revolution. France supplied American Rebels to get back at GB for being a dick. This land belongs to the Tejano!

France caused the American Revolution to succeed.

It didn't cause it. Causing something, and making something work doesn't mean the same thing.
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:39 pm

RNT wrote:
Red Party wrote:
That's not an issue, everyone inside will be dead.


Burn children alive, you will have riots in other regions of Mexico and in other cities in our region.

Nobody's burning any children. We will send troops and if you do not disarm and surrender, they will take the city.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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RNT
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Founded: Oct 27, 2015
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Postby RNT » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:40 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
RNT wrote:

With the help of multiple other countries one I have a border with. And the plp are still angry bc they got nothing for there fighting, they blame the current government.

Unification happened 2 years ago. But I'm sure it's in the people's best interest to want to secede and start a fragmentation.


Precisely I'm glad u understand, they gave the govt 2 years to get there shit together they haven't things are the same if not worse.

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RNT
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Postby RNT » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:41 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
RNT wrote:
Burn children alive, you will have riots in other regions of Mexico and in other cities in our region.

Nobody's burning any children. We will send troops and if you do not disarm and surrender, they will take the city.

Hmm sounds different than we will burn your cities to the ground. And come and take it this will be bloody and terrible for you.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:42 pm

Apror wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:France caused the American Revolution to succeed.

It didn't cause it. Causing something, and making something work doesn't mean the same thing.

It has the same goal and effect. It was convinent for France to have rebels to tear America from the British Crown. It is convinent for Mexico to have rebels tear those 3 Mexican states from Texas. We might not even have to create it, the Brown Berets do exist and claim Mexico had land stolen from them. If I give them guns, money, and a proper leadership, that's a rebel group potentially.
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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