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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:03 pm

Hothnia wrote:
Apror wrote:They do now. And yeah, they did in the past. Once duty called, they answered. Now, they're the main show.

But for five carriers and a massive fleet? I don't think Norfolk could that in forty years and it hasn't been through a second civil war.

Don't mess with Texas. Also, it's not one dock doing it, I just listed some major ones. It'd have it spread all over the Ports I have, but the big boys like Houston and Texas could do the bigger projects.
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:04 pm

Apror wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Building cargo ships isn't the same as aircraft carriers. I dont think Houston and New Orleans even build military ships.

They do now. And yeah, they did in the past. Once duty called, they answered. Now, they're the main show.

In WW2. And never battleships or carriers. It takes more than "smart people" to build carriers. Countries with bigger economies like in Europe than Texas have less carriers despite being pioneering countries. Texas would be like Brazil or China, buying foreign carriers before being able to even design their own.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:07 pm

Apror wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Yep, anything Cruiser tonnage or lower can be put together in good time. Anything larger, well, it can be done too, but will be expensive and slower to build.

Okay, that sounds good. There's also the Fighter question. How long do you estimate for such orders to be fulfilled.


Depends how many you want, and what exactly you want. Short range? Long range? Close air support capabilities? Scramjets? Fighter-bombers? There are plenty of export variants the Conglomerate can build on to fit an order.
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:08 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:They do now. And yeah, they did in the past. Once duty called, they answered. Now, they're the main show.

In WW2. And never battleships or carriers. It takes more than "smart people" to build carriers. Countries with bigger economies like in Europe than Texas have less carriers despite being pioneering countries. Texas would be like Brazil or China, buying foreign carriers before being able to even design their own.

A. Those European countries are trying lower the cost of their Militaries. Texas isn't so Humble.
B. It's been 40 years, so it's been a lot of time to go through that process.
C. OP approved m8.
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4. Pro Second Amendment
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:11 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Apror wrote:Okay, that sounds good. There's also the Fighter question. How long do you estimate for such orders to be fulfilled.


Depends how many you want, and what exactly you want. Short range? Long range? Close air support capabilities? Scramjets? Fighter-bombers? There are plenty of export variants the Conglomerate can build on to fit an order.

Well, we're looking for Scram Jets, fighter-bombers, and some long range.

Basically, I want to cause big boom in Texan terms.
What I believe?
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2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:17 pm

There should be a bill of sale.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby South Vict » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:18 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:There should be a bill of sale.

Are you ready bois?

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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:20 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:There should be a bill of sale.

I think that's what he's going about doing.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:34 pm

Apror wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Depends how many you want, and what exactly you want. Short range? Long range? Close air support capabilities? Scramjets? Fighter-bombers? There are plenty of export variants the Conglomerate can build on to fit an order.

Well, we're looking for Scram Jets, fighter-bombers, and some long range.

Basically, I want to cause big boom in Texan terms.


Hmm, so predominantly long-range fighter-bombers? Basically multirole aircraft with a good operating envelope. That can be done, indeed. And how many? And how quickly?

Pimps Inc wrote:There should be a bill of sale.


Indeed. I'll probably do one at some point.
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Postby South Vict » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:56 pm

Almost done folks!
Rebel App
Name: Communist Party of Mexico
Leader: Mauricio Villacrés
Type (religious, political, social or ethnic): Political, Marxist, and Social
Flag/Logo: Image
Religion: None
Ethnicity: Mexican
HQ: Mexico City
Operational Area (where your group operates in or from): Underground Headquarters
Political Position (Alt-right, Far-right, Far-left, Right-wing, Left-wing, Centre-right, Centre-left or Political centre): Left-wing
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism
Motives: To overthrow the existing Government
Goals: None as of right now.
Methods:
Supporters:
History:
Territory Occupied (if a rebellion is ongoing): Baja California
Military Equipment: AK-47
Military Size: 2,000 Infantry
33 Artillery
11 Tanks


#AmericaHasFallen - Don't Remove
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:01 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Apror wrote:Well, we're looking for Scram Jets, fighter-bombers, and some long range.

Basically, I want to cause big boom in Texan terms.


Hmm, so predominantly long-range fighter-bombers? Basically multirole aircraft with a good operating envelope. That can be done, indeed. And how many? And how quickly?

Pimps Inc wrote:There should be a bill of sale.


Indeed. I'll probably do one at some point.

150-200. Preferably within the next year, but as fast as you can.
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:01 pm

South Vict wrote:
Almost done folks!
Rebel App
Name: Communist Party of Mexico
Leader: Mauricio Villacrés
Type (religious, political, social or ethnic): Political, Marxist, and Social
Flag/Logo: (Image)
Religion: None
Ethnicity: Mexican
HQ: Mexico City
Operational Area (where your group operates in or from): Underground Headquarters
Political Position (Alt-right, Far-right, Far-left, Right-wing, Left-wing, Centre-right, Centre-left or Political centre): Left-wing
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism
Motives: To overthrow the existing Government
Goals: None as of right now.
Methods:
Supporters:
History:
Territory Occupied (if a rebellion is ongoing): Baja California
Military Equipment:
Military Size: 2,000 Infantry
33 Artillery
11 Tanks


#AmericaHasFallen - Don't Remove

Du fuck. I mean....... hey, I'm not completely opposed.........
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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South Vict
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Postby South Vict » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:03 pm

Apror wrote:
South Vict wrote:
Almost done folks!
Rebel App
Name: Communist Party of Mexico
Leader: Mauricio Villacrés
Type (religious, political, social or ethnic): Political, Marxist, and Social
Flag/Logo: (Image)
Religion: None
Ethnicity: Mexican
HQ: Mexico City
Operational Area (where your group operates in or from): Underground Headquarters
Political Position (Alt-right, Far-right, Far-left, Right-wing, Left-wing, Centre-right, Centre-left or Political centre): Left-wing
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism
Motives: To overthrow the existing Government
Goals: None as of right now.
Methods:
Supporters:
History:
Territory Occupied (if a rebellion is ongoing): Baja California
Military Equipment:
Military Size: 2,000 Infantry
33 Artillery
11 Tanks


#AmericaHasFallen - Don't Remove

Du fuck. I mean....... hey, I'm not completely opposed.........

Hey, It's worth a try.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:07 pm

South Vict wrote:
Apror wrote:Du fuck. I mean....... hey, I'm not completely opposed.........

Hey, It's worth a try.

I suppose that's true
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Postby South Vict » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:12 pm

Apror wrote:
South Vict wrote:Hey, It's worth a try.

I suppose that's true

Thanks for helping me out with my app.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:19 pm

Well, time to massacre communists.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Postby South Vict » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:20 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:Well, time to massacre communists.

Woah woah my friend. We can work this out can we?

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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:28 pm

South Vict wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Well, time to massacre communists.

Woah woah my friend. We can work this out can we?

Enemies of the Crown. It will be up to the Emperor but with command of the CISEN, I have a duty to get rid of anybody wanting to overthrow the government.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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South Vict
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Postby South Vict » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:30 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
South Vict wrote:Woah woah my friend. We can work this out can we?

Enemies of the Crown. It will be up to the Emperor but with command of the CISEN, I have a duty to get rid of anybody wanting to overthrow the government.

Alright, Suit yourself.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:37 pm

South Vict wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Enemies of the Crown. It will be up to the Emperor but with command of the CISEN, I have a duty to get rid of anybody wanting to overthrow the government.

Alright, Suit yourself.

"Did you hear Mexico is massacring Political dissenters? What a shame!"
- Texan News Media
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Postby Pimps Inc » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:41 pm

South Vict wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:Enemies of the Crown. It will be up to the Emperor but with command of the CISEN, I have a duty to get rid of anybody wanting to overthrow the government.

Alright, Suit yourself.

Become a regular party, not one trying to overthrow the government.

Apror wrote:
South Vict wrote:Alright, Suit yourself.

"Did you hear Mexico is massacring Political dissenters? What a shame!"
- Texan News Media

They'll just disappear, go to a farm where they can run around happy in a fantasy Communist utopia.
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:47 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
South Vict wrote:Alright, Suit yourself.

Become a regular party, not one trying to overthrow the government.

Apror wrote:"Did you hear Mexico is massacring Political dissenters? What a shame!"
- Texan News Media

They'll just disappear, go to a farm where they can run around happy in a fantasy Communist utopia.

Sure.......
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:00 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:They'll just disappear, go to a farm where they can run around happy in a fantasy Communist utopia.

Just like what happens to journalists,political opponents and the occasional non Spaatzist religious person, they disappear to the Spaatz Loyalty Guards!
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.

Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:01 pm

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:They'll just disappear, go to a farm where they can run around happy in a fantasy Communist utopia.

Just like what happens to journalists,political opponents and the occasional non Spaatzist religious person, they disappear to the Spaatz Loyalty Guards!

Well, okay then.
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Postby Gyrenaica » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:04 pm

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:Rebel Groups in Anasazi

Fascists- Roughly 300 militia members in Arizona and Utah. Known for murder, Terrorism, Theft, rape, and other serious crimes

Atomicism- Roughly 800 militia members in Nevada. Have unleashed biological weapons on civilian populace in the past. Before that attack, there were 2,300 members. Poorly armed, well trained.

Anarchists (Coms and Caps)- Roughly 1,100 militia members spread across Colorado, Nevada and Arizona. Poorly armed, but good training. Known for Rioting an occasional terrorism.

Communists- Roughly 3,300 militia members spread across Colorado and New Mexico. Poorly armed and trained. Known for Guerilla Warfare, Terrorism, Rioting, Theft, Assault and other charges.

Mormon Fundamentalists- Roughly 11,400 militia members in Utah. Well Armed, Good Training. Known for Murder (including police and other officials), Theft, Assault.

Terrorism is severely punished of course, as demonstrated in the deaths of 1,500 Atomocists after a biological attack.


Welp, time to go to Anasazi, got some Fascists to help gain power

Yeeet. I plan to eventually have Anasazi collapse into a failed state with various terrible factions fighting for power, even without your help. But apparently others want to make it go faster

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