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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:56 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
Again, Apror, restore the 3 Mexican states to Mexico and we can all walk away from this. If not...Houston (and wherever Texas' capital is) will burn.

Funny thing is I probably have Aerial/Naval Superiority. Not to mention tech. You only have numbers, well, until I call in Allies who I will not name.

Edit: Wait, I do. Well, guess I'm ridding on tech.


So did Nazi Germany and Napoleon in their invasions of Russia. Both times, Russia had the numbers on their side and both times they won. Why will this situation be any different?

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:57 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
This can all be avoided if you give us back those 3 states. I was just joking before.

Can you help me take back rightful Texan lands? That's kinda what this was all leading up to. I'll give them back, but I need some revenge.

Pimps Inc wrote:You did take 3 states on top of gaining independence 200+ years ago. The cartel's terrible human rights record does not excuse imperialism.

Dude, it's in the name. Plus you're country is looking pretty Imperial with all your conquests. You have conquered people's, on top of terrible human rights violations. We treated the people very well. Except the Cartel. We killed them.

An empire doesn't have to be imperialistic, only ruled by an Emperor, to be called empire. Mexico hasn't conquered land that didn't belong to it at one point in history.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:57 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Apror wrote:Funny thing is I probably have Aerial/Naval Superiority. Not to mention tech. You only have numbers, well, until I call in Allies who I will not name.

Edit: Wait, I do. Well, guess I'm ridding on tech.


So did Nazi Germany and Napoleon in their invasions of Russia. Both times, Russia had the numbers on their side and both times they won. Why will this situation be any different?

We should take this to the IC.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:00 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
So did Nazi Germany and Napoleon in their invasions of Russia. Both times, Russia had the numbers on their side and both times they won. Why will this situation be any different?

We should take this to the IC.


Yes. Since you control the Cartel and its agents (including the PM), I leave you to convince the Emperor to liberate those provinces. It should be pretty easy to do. Also, considering the fact that the Empire just finished fighting a Civil War, the army is already mobilized, which makes things even easier.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:01 pm

Nea Byzantia wrote:
Apror wrote:Funny thing is I probably have Aerial/Naval Superiority. Not to mention tech. You only have numbers, well, until I call in Allies who I will not name.

Edit: Wait, I do. Well, guess I'm ridding on tech.


So did Nazi Germany and Napoleon in their invasions of Russia. Both times, Russia had the numbers on their side and both times they won. Why will this situation be any different?

Sir, Mexico had numbers when invading Texas. We all know how that ended..........better Equipment on all fronts will make your life hell. And no, Russia had a terrible winter, with Napoleon lacking supplies. In Germany's case, the Russians turned out better Tanks (which we have) and turned the ties through being absolute hard asses. We are hard asses. Not just hard asses, we are hard asses who have better equipment than you. Then, we will knock you out the sky's, out the sea, then make your life a living hell from above. Going on the offensive will be hellish. You won't even have numbers on your side eventually
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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:01 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:Can you help me take back rightful Texan lands? That's kinda what this was all leading up to. I'll give them back, but I need some revenge.


Dude, it's in the name. Plus you're country is looking pretty Imperial with all your conquests. You have conquered people's, on top of terrible human rights violations. We treated the people very well. Except the Cartel. We killed them.

An empire doesn't have to be imperialistic, only ruled by an Emperor, to be called empire. Mexico hasn't conquered land that didn't belong to it at one point in history.

When did Mexico own Panama?
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3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:04 pm

Apror wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:An empire doesn't have to be imperialistic, only ruled by an Emperor, to be called empire. Mexico hasn't conquered land that didn't belong to it at one point in history.

When did Mexico own Panama?

It declared independence from Gran Colombia in the early 1820s and requested to the join the First Mexican Empire before its dissolution a year later.
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:05 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:When did Mexico own Panama?

It declared independence from Gran Colombia in the early 1820s and requested to the join the First Mexican Empire before its dissolution a year later.

It was never owned by it however. Or Cuba.
What I believe?
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2. Pro-Life
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4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Ruskland-Preuben
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:05 pm

Apror wrote:
Nea Byzantia wrote:
So did Nazi Germany and Napoleon in their invasions of Russia. Both times, Russia had the numbers on their side and both times they won. Why will this situation be any different?

Sir, Mexico had numbers when invading Texas. We all know how that ended..........better Equipment on all fronts will make your life hell. And no, Russia had a terrible winter, with Napoleon lacking supplies. In Germany's case, the Russians turned out better Tanks (which we have) and turned the ties through being absolute hard asses. We are hard asses. Not just hard asses, we are hard asses who have better equipment than you. Then, we will knock you out the sky's, out the sea, then make your life a living hell from above. Going on the offensive will be hellish. You won't even have numbers on your side eventually


Don't tempt my endless drone air force, my mechs and power armor, and everything.
I'm a Cthulhist and a Proud Member of the Federation of Allies.
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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:06 pm

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:
Apror wrote:Sir, Mexico had numbers when invading Texas. We all know how that ended..........better Equipment on all fronts will make your life hell. And no, Russia had a terrible winter, with Napoleon lacking supplies. In Germany's case, the Russians turned out better Tanks (which we have) and turned the ties through being absolute hard asses. We are hard asses. Not just hard asses, we are hard asses who have better equipment than you. Then, we will knock you out the sky's, out the sea, then make your life a living hell from above. Going on the offensive will be hellish. You won't even have numbers on your side eventually


Don't tempt my endless drone air force, my mechs and power armor, and everything.

I'd have that too m8.
What I believe?
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2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Ruskland-Preuben
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:08 pm

Apror wrote:
Ruskland-Preuben wrote:
Don't tempt my endless drone air force, my mechs and power armor, and everything.

I'd have that too m8.

You don't have plane drones son, only package delivery ones.
I'm a Cthulhist and a Proud Member of the Federation of Allies.
Don’t expect a warm welcome in P2TM, but let them warm up to you by posting good stuff.
Formerly the NCSU, add 5000 posts please.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:09 pm

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:
Apror wrote:I'd have that too m8.

You don't have plane drones son, only package delivery ones.

Keep telling yourself that.......
What I believe?
1. Christian
2. Pro-Life
3. Pro 1st Amendment
4. Pro Second Amendment
5. Pro Equality between all people.

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:10 pm

Apror wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:It declared independence from Gran Colombia in the early 1820s and requested to the join the First Mexican Empire before its dissolution a year later.

It was never owned by it however. Or Cuba.

It was part of the Empire for a year or so. Cuba was part of he Viceroyalty of New Spain. Under Spanish king but with Mexican governors. It's a bit of a stretch but still.
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:10 pm

I'll have an IC post up later.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Ruskland-Preuben
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:12 pm

Apror wrote:
Ruskland-Preuben wrote:You don't have plane drones son, only package delivery ones.

Keep telling yourself that.......

Apps and stats are the only things that hold water, my endless drones I can fuck you up one after another.
I'm a Cthulhist and a Proud Member of the Federation of Allies.
Don’t expect a warm welcome in P2TM, but let them warm up to you by posting good stuff.
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Ruskland-Preuben
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:14 pm

I'll conquer Nebraska for orgasmic borders.
I'm a Cthulhist and a Proud Member of the Federation of Allies.
Don’t expect a warm welcome in P2TM, but let them warm up to you by posting good stuff.
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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:14 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Apror wrote:It was never owned by it however. Or Cuba.

It was part of the Empire for a year or so. Cuba was part of he Viceroyalty of New Spain. Under Spanish king but with Mexican governors. It's a bit of a stretch but still.

No, that's what's called bull shit. That doesn't count. Not to mention they spent more time away from Mexico, than under it! The First Mexican Empire lasted two years! Panama was under Colombia longer!
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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:15 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:I'll have an IC post up later.


OK.

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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:16 pm

Just fucking realized the IC was up.
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G-Tech Corporation
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:38 pm

Ah, that moment when you realize the IC exists.

Hmm. Perhaps it is time to move some lads south. Plenty of good agricultural land and hydrocarbons just laying about.
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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:59 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Ah, that moment when you realize the IC exists.

Hmm. Perhaps it is time to move some lads south. Plenty of good agricultural land and hydrocarbons just laying about.

If South, you mean Texas and the American South, cool.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:01 pm

Apror wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Ah, that moment when you realize the IC exists.

Hmm. Perhaps it is time to move some lads south. Plenty of good agricultural land and hydrocarbons just laying about.

If South, you mean Texas and the American South, cool.


Nah. More like Saskatchewan south. Mexico is too crowded and far-away-y for my tastes.
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Apror
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Postby Apror » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:04 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Apror wrote:If South, you mean Texas and the American South, cool.


Nah. More like Saskatchewan south. Mexico is too crowded and far-away-y for my tastes.

I'm not Mexico tho.
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Postby Red Party » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:19 am

Reserve Hawaii and the rest of Alaska.
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Postby Arvenia » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:24 am

Red Party wrote:Reserve Hawaii and the rest of Alaska.

Okay!
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